Cox Plate - Final Field & Barrier Draw

[La Mer]

COX PLATE FIELD AND BARRIER DRAW
1 GREYS INN (2) M. De Kock/W. Marwing 58
2 LAD OF THE MANOR (7) R. Hoysted/B. Johns 58
3 SUPER KID (5) J. Moore/ 58
4 CONFECTIONER (12) D. Hayes/ C. Williams 58
5 DESERT WAR (1) G. Waterhouse/L. Cassidy 58
6 FIELDS OF OMAGH (10) D. Hayes/S. King 58
7 TOSEN DANDY (9) H. Mori/ 58
8 XCELLENT (13) M. Moroney/M. Coleman 56.5
9 OUTBACK PRINCE (6) A.J. Cummings/D. Beadman 56.5
10 MAKYBE DIVA (4) D.L. Freedman/G. Boss 55.5
11 SKY CUDDLE (3) P. Moody/---- 55.5
12 LOTTERIA (8) G. Waterhouse/C. Munce 54
13 GOD'S OWN (14) J.B. Cummings/S. Baster 48.5
14 HOTEL GRAND (11) A.J. Cummings/ J. Ford 48.5

[maverick1993]

I've already taken Desert War at nice odds and am very happy with the barrier draw..i think hes a good e/w chance...

Thought the 3yo's might struggle out there...just maybe Hotel Grand could get across ...not sure..

Narrowed it down to
Makybe Diva / Desert War / Lad Of the Manor / Confectioner / Hotel Grand

A place chance as usual for Fieldsy..

Still watching the video and working on the speed map ,,but i think theres a few you can rule out which is always good...the problem for Makybe is that some of these pretenders could get in her road...

[Real Deal]

Surely confectioner is not going to ruin this race by settling outside Makybe and not letting her out?? He has drawn perfectly to sit right outside her about 3/4 of the way back in the pack. I just hope there are no hero jockeys that try and ruin the race for The great mare when there mount has no chance.

If a jockey ruins the race for Makybe and doesn't win they should get a life ban!

[Stix]

Lad Of the Manor for me......... :)

[maverick1993]

Surely confectioner is not going to ruin this race by settling outside Makybe and not letting her out?? He has drawn perfectly to sit right outside her about 3/4 of the way back in the pack. I just hope there are no hero jockeys that try and ruin the race for The great mare when there mount has no chance.

If a jockey ruins the race for Makybe and doesn't win they should get a life ban!


i dont agree ... its the jockeys job to give his horse every possible chance of winning..if a jock can keep Makybe boxed in without ruining his own chance of winning he should do so..everyone knows its probably there only chance of beating the Diva in the form shes in..
if a jock boxes her in and ruins his own chance of winning he then should be spoken to ..and i'm sure alot of angry punters will be doing just that..

[Tenacious Spirit]

Just checked the BOM website and there is rain/thunderstorms predicted from tommorow until early next week. Now i know the weather forecasts arn;t always on the money, but you'd think that if it rainded wed, thurs, fri and sat that would shake things up a bit.

Confectioner and desert war are both duffers on the wet. Xcellent doesn't like it either does he?

Not sure about the internationals but will have to look into that. I backed Super Kid before this weather forecast but i am not sure how he goes in the wet. After seeing the prediction of rain i backed Lad of the Manor as $9 will not stand up.

Scenario being wet, could sky cuddle run a place?

If wet Makybe just looks the one, if dry she still looks the one but would happy to go for value.

[brave chief]

I had an e/w bet on God's Own at 50/1 for an interest 4 weeks ago. One of the better looking 3yo's I reckon I've ever seen, a real oil painting.

It's a pretty good field but impossible to go past Diva & she's too short for my tastes, so it looks like a no bet race for me.

I think Super Kid & Desert War are genuine hopes. Hotel Grande's last 2 runs have been excellent, & I think this year's Spring Champion was the best in quite some time, but I doubt he can over-race in a Cox Plate as a 3yo, against this field & still win.

[Oaksnaf]

Ive already backed Lad of the Manor at 11-1 the other week. For me will run a good race and be right up the front adding to his M.V record. Super Kid and Hotel Grand would be my outside choices.

[rabbitz]

If its Wet

Lad of the manor
Super kid
fields of omagh
makybe diva

Boxed :)

[Matilda]

As MD draw barrier 4, I have a feeling that she might get caught in the race and might miss out the placing.

Therefore, I am taking a risk here of big trifecta. These are what I have down to:

Super Kid / Desert War / Lad Of the Manor / Confectioner / God's Own / Field of Omagh.

In fact, I have a double on Super Kid/Lad of the Manor onto Exellent/Vouvray/Demerger in MC.

Value bet for me is on FOO...

Good Luck to all of you....

[wise one]

I reckon Lad of the Manor has to be in with a good chance as he can sit up handy to the pace, does not mind it wet and has won 4 from 4 at the Valley. Also my back pocket is hoping he wins as I backed him each way at $26.00 just before he had his first start back this spring

Bet smart bet wise

[xanadu]

After my initial review of runners in this year's Cox Plate I stress to fellow form students that only 6-7 runners even pass the first test of "true class" runners.
Accordingly, I will now involve myself in intense form study, importantly, ignoring all the hype and distractions of assorted media types.
N.B. look for "true class" horse(s).
Cheers.

[Raw Instinct]

I have been spruiking Lad of the Manor for along time now for this race basically saying the Makybe Diva will not beat him in another thread well I am not less confident now than I was a few weeks back when I said that. He has a great record at the Valley and a great wet track record no reason to be worried now I don't think.

[The Big O]

i backed Hotel Grand in the Spring Champions and so watched him from barrier to box and jock' J Ford gave him the best run you have ever seen,can't see it happening this time.Desert War is up there for me,only worried about the Melb' way of going and WFA scale and maybe the wet.
as for God's Own as a 3yr old,is he as good as previous 3 yr old's to have won.....i don't think so yet.
Super Kid has been outstanding so far but looks a little one paced for mine.
if Lad of the Manor can handle the wet,he looks very good as of course does MD but she will have to make a long sustained run for mine.
maybe the #1 barrier for Desert War amounts to good value and i believe this horse is still on the way up.
same as MD for Xcellent but the best of him is yet to be seen IMO.
can't come at any of the others....Outback Prince has cost me a packet so far so he is sacked.....overated for mine.
anyway,i think the winner will come from the first few horses i mentioned.

[Dazz]

I've tried to picture the race, and the only way we are going to

Get the odds and beat the Diva is we need to find a horse who

Will have a handy lead on the turn & hold on.

I can only come up with Lad of the manor. ( nice exacta)

Is there any other horses in this category ???

Maybe a bottom weight ?

[bl4dez]

GO Confectioner

[Matilda]

This is my picture and fantasy....

Jumped
Outback Prince (OP), Hotel Grand (HG) and Lotteria (LT) will jump fast to cross over the rail with Desert War (DW) hugging the rail for lead follow by Lad Of the manor (LM), Fields on Omagh (FOO), Greys Inn (GI) and Tosen Dandy (TD), Sky Cuddle (SC) in the middle with Super Kid (Kid) and God Own (GO) right behind outside SC and Makybe Diva (MD) hugging the rail at the back with Confectioner (C) outside and Xcellent (X) behind last..

At 1200m
DW, LT and TD have taken 2 len lead with the second bunch lead by OP and HG. LM, Foo GI will follow with no move from the back.

At 800m
As the speed right up in front by DW and LT, SK, LM, HG and FOO will start the move from middle of the field with MD and X also starting to come out from the back follow by C.

At 400m
LT, TD, OP, HG SC will start dropping out from the challenge. GI will move forward to tackle DW together with LM and FOO. GO and Kid will follow together with C, MD and X

You figure out the last 200m…..

For me, LM, DW and FOO will hang on (for 1st, 2nd and 3rd) together with Kid and C with MD 1/2 - 3/4 len behind. GO and X will follow with the rest at the back of the field.

Go punting….

[Real Deal]

i can tell you this much, at the 400 Xcellent and Makybe Diva along with Confectioner will all be Flat out and no more than 3 lengths off the leader who will be wilting due to all runners being flat out since the 800m mark.