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Svenvlad
9th December 2005, 10:44 PM
Hey all,

Back for another week. Good set of races for this week, especially the Summer Stakes which should be a real highlight.

Race 1 - Thought Falconten might be a good show here. He is a really striking horse by Show A Heart who loomed up to win at the 200m last time but was probably outclassed by Mel. The extra journey and the claim should help. There is a lot of speed here,so hopefully he can sit just off Diamonds Am I and pressure her in the straight. Diamonds Am I was a really good run last time, and the shorter straight of Doomben should really suit her. Consistent with my strategy of avoiding favourites in 2yo races, she's not my top pick (thats not to say she won't win obviously :)). Captain Lightning won a trial recently, indicating he could be ready for a first up effort. General Nediym's usually don't take long to come to hand either.

Race 2 - Aim So High could go close here, if they let him free-wheel in the lead. He has shown in the past, to my eye, that he doesn't like being held up between and inside of other horses. Hopefully Mcmahon just lets him roll to the front and he'll take some catching. He was competitive in some of those 3yo town races last year, so this class should not worry. Black Suit will appreciate the class drop and can get home late if the leaders start tiring in the last 100m. The weight shouldn't be a worry, either. Next Size Up is a horse on the rise who can make his presence felt with adequate luck. I did a quick map and had him getting in one off the fence, so hopefully things play out like that. Had fair 3yo form during the carnival, possibly showing the stable opinion of him?

Race 3 - Tough race. Lot of speed here. Maybe Brisbane Lion has a rough chance. He hasn't appeared to run the best races in town, but maybe in the weaker field he can get away with it. Piccohi has the best form in the race from my viewing, but the 10 alley and all the speed in the race put me off slightly. He's class though, and can surely win without surprising. Town Player is a nice chance too, the trainer wouldn't have brought him to town for nothing. The run 2 back is a great pointer for a race like this. Bet on that at your peril though :).

Race 4 - Couldn't get excited about this one either. I was under the impression Cold Start had gone over the top after his last run, but now that he is entered here, i don't know. I know the 2400 didn't suit and there was plenty of speed in the race, but he didn't give a yelp at the end. That being said, i'll stick with him (with plenty of reservations) because theres a lack of speed here. Lester Thunderwing is a query, was nom'ed for a stayers race a couple of weeks back, but hasn't been sighted until now. Don't know what to make of that, but his class will carry him a long way here. Thurman needs a dry track, and looks like getting it tomorrow. Not the most reliable mare going around, but she has ability on her day. Could be a value place chance.

Race 5 - Good 3yo fillies race here. Again, plenty of speed so the backmarkers should be their chance. Thought Nova Star was worth one more chance. The last run screamed more ground. She lost touch early on in the straight but then picked up again and finished well. The 1200m should be ideal. The gate is a little worry, but Cahill is quality and should get a good run. La Montagna has a slightly better alley, but will get back abit and should get in. The speed will be great for her and is proven in town. Single Rose gets her city chance here, but has been performing reasonably well at the mid-weeks. Perhaps a nice place chance.

Race 6 - Trap race. Most of the good chances are backmarkers, leaving me wondering where the speed will com from. Penetrator will go forward, and maybe Unite and Prosper and My Chinese King won't be far away. I've done my selections based on a good speed, so i'll sit back and hope :). Prend was ultra impressive last time, and the extra 200m looks great. The Doomben straight is the major worry, because she needed all of the Eagle Farm stretch to win last time. Stathi knows what hes doing though, and won't be far off at the end. Decibeel won well last time, i just can't get excited about her at this stage. Mameluke is proven at the track and distance and can win without surprising.

Race 7 - Top race. Thought Proudly Agro was in there with a top chance. He has done nothing wrong of late, and the alley is great. He won't be far off them on turning and the likely pace of the race will suit him down to the ground. Picardi Run will be in great condition for this race, judging by his effort last time. He peaked on his run about 50m out (as was expected from trainer's pre-race comments) so the fitness will be there tomorrow. Very talented horse on his day. Show Biz Kid has a horror draw, but he's still a chance will all the speed that will be on. Won this race last year, edging out Sir Breakfast.

Race 8 - Last race. If Minassi repeats his last run, he'll win. He shouldn't have any trouble getting across from the alley, there is limited speed drawn inside him, and if Seamer can give him a cosy run, i think he'll be too strong. Daunting Lad has a horror draw and i fear he'll be trapped deep, but its a massive class drop and isn't without a chance with some luck. Merkaba is a good rough hope too, his last runs are better than they probably look on paper.

Best tomorrow would be Minassi and Prend with a good rough chance to Aim So High...

Good luck all

Sven

maverick1993
10th December 2005, 12:22 AM
Hi Sven...looks a good day tomorrow..can't wait .

Race 1.
I loved Diamonds an I last start...did all the work and just got pipped on the line ..should get the lead again here and be to strong..
i think the best bet of the day but will be to short for me ...unless the whispers are about for something else..sometimes everyone looking for value jumps off the obvious and jumps on the spriuk horse..
Race 2.
looks a race in 2 ...Black Suit and Coincidental...the later won so easily and impressively last start..with Colless on board i really cant see anything beating her..i thought Slick Operator who should lead would give good sight up front...i like these 3 in a tri ..and maybe another exacta ..
Race 3.
I agree with Sven here...this looks a tuff race ...my ratings dont have a standout but the one that rates on top is Crafty King...good win in nice time up the hill at Toowoomba last start...Fond Kiss has had a bit of bad luck of late and the barrier is a worry..I'm banking on Ric riding Fond Kiss alittle more forward this time but the start will be costly for her..
Starlactic can fly,and from the inside should get a good run..
I'll be on Crafty King as this horse is versatile..can be ridden forward or from the back...gives Seamer a few options...
Race 4.
I'll be sticking with Appleby ...just didnt stay the trip in the cup ..better suited here and the speed suits..Cold Start will race better with Managed Fund not engaged but I think Mr Hornblower might try and lead or take the sit off Cold Start and pester him.......Terrace is the class but might be a run short..Appleby for me...but might have something Mr Hornblower as the newcomer that might relish the trip..
RAce 5.
I originally thought Street Smart ...should get the right tempo and will be hard to stop in the last 50m ...but you can't under estimate La Montagna with Colless on board and if your looking for a roughie check out Crackledash whos been running on well of late..
I reckon i'll be on La Montagna as Colless sways it for me..
Race 6.
You have to think the 1600m will suit Decibeel ..won very well last time and with Colless running the show looks a good thing..
Prend has been good to me but i cant see him beating Decibeel ...Mamaluke will run the usual honest race...
really like Decibeel..
Race 7.
How good was MAsterminds run last start...i'm a fan and it looks like i'll be on again although i'm not a fan of Jl Taylor...
TT from the inside is all class..the weight is a problem for me and his last run was awfull..but apparently had excuses..
Proudly Agro should again get the good run...but this is harder..
Mastermind will put himself in with a chance ,,,e/w atleast all day..
Race 8.
I'll be on Kutalo e/w here...will lead or be close up and will be hard to run down..Daunting LAd even with the bad barrier and weight will be the one running on late....

Diamonds and I, Decibeel and Coincidental and Appleby the best ...
not much value around as i think its day for favs,,,,probably be just opposite now.. ;)

Good Luck all ..

Other state selections
Sydney
*Cavmac, *Intermoo, *Hipster Doofus
Melbourne
*Shades of Laughter, *Statton Place
Adelaide
*Aerated, *Showdown Kid
Ascot
*Scenic Shot

maverick1993
10th December 2005, 12:03 PM
Hi guys,,
forgot to mention Dont Tell Clang..as you know i thought her stride a couple of runs back was awfull,,,i still think she has bad feet and today with the hardish track i think she'll struggle...
i usually do ok potting the hotpots..(Willy lieca last week) ..
and today i think Dont tell clangs one for the Betfair boys..

i could be wrong and she had a twisted plate or something ..but i cant find this in any reports ...and there was an enqiury into her performance..

off to the track ..good luck guys :)

D105Black
10th December 2005, 01:17 PM
Good-day Mav and Sven, I'll be following your Brissie selections today again as I really like the comments for each race you put up.

Thanks for those race analysis guys...

jorgo
10th December 2005, 01:20 PM
GO APPLEBY!!!

Silver_and_sand
10th December 2005, 01:27 PM
Here's my 4 best picks for Doomben today:

R2 #4 Coincidental
R3 #5 Babinda Half
R7 #7 Picardi Run
R8 #2 Minassi

bl4dez
10th December 2005, 04:12 PM
Hi guys,,
forgot to mention Dont Tell Clang..as you know i thought her stride a couple of runs back was awfull,,,i still think she has bad feet and today with the hardish track i think she'll struggle...
i usually do ok potting the hotpots..(Willy lieca last week) ..
and today i think Dont tell clangs one for the Betfair boys..

i could be wrong and she had a twisted plate or something ..but i cant find this in any reports ...and there was an enqiury into her performance..

off to the track ..good luck guys :)


well well

Sportz
10th December 2005, 04:54 PM
Glad I didn't read that!!! :D

You've been pretty spot on with most of your other thoughts though, Mav. Well done. I also had Coincidental and Decibeel as my two best bets in Brisbane today. Good when things work out like that.

Sportz
10th December 2005, 05:28 PM
That was the REAL Takeover Target today.

Svenvlad
10th December 2005, 05:40 PM
too right Sportz, that was incredible.

Time was unbelievable - don't know what the other races have been like time-wise, but when they break 68, look out.

Sven

maverick1993
10th December 2005, 06:38 PM
OOps Sorry guys about Dont tell clang ...lucky i'm not a betfair man yet..

been a good day though ..Colless is all class..

bit ****ed about jumping off Street smart for La Montagna ...
missed out on Mastermind but managed the 1st4 for 3/4's so cant complain..
kutalo to short to go e/w .. missed the tri..
Crafty king dissapointing...
Diamonds an I just abit to short for me..

Coincidental and Decibeel (nice tri) and the 1st4 in the 7th was very handy..

a profits a profit though...cant complain..
was happy with my ratings though...
only got Dont Tell clangs race wrong..

Sydney
yuk...intermoo, Hipster Doofus and Cavmac all losing..
Adelaide
Aerated loss...woohoo Showdown kid..just got there :)
Melbourne
Woohoo Shades Of Laughter and Stratton Place both winning :)

been a great day ...still have the one to go..

come on Scenic Shot..

Hope you guys had a goodn..

Sportz
10th December 2005, 06:48 PM
missed out on Mastermind but managed the 1st4 for 3/4's so cant complain..


So mad. I got the trifecta for a half and the numbers I used would have given me the first 4 if only I had taken one!!! :(

jorgo
10th December 2005, 06:48 PM
Time to spell Appleby... resume for the townsville cup maybe...

maverick1993
10th December 2005, 07:01 PM
Time to spell Appleby... resume for the townsville cup maybe...

I agree ..i've never been a real fan but he's surprised me this prep with some good runs..and consistency..
seems to be a bit flat now..


Bad Luck Sportz...not a hard 1st4 to get really and it paid heaps..


Can believe i didnt have an exacta with Street smart and LaMontagna ..paid $15 ..
had one with Coincidental and Black Suit ,,but forgot ...
sometimes with so much happening its gets to much ...Pen ,form giude and phone in one hand ,,bookies tickets in the other..plus a stubbie and also watching the boards..
Exactas arent a habit for me yet but theres value there...
got the treble not huge value but $60's ok..

Sportz
10th December 2005, 07:17 PM
$60 is pretty good really, considering the winners.

My selections went very well in Brisbane today. After seeing the success that you and Sven have had, I've decided to concentrate more on the Brisbane races now (6 races today instead of the usual 2 or 3) and it sure worked out today!!!

D105Black
12th December 2005, 10:28 AM
Mav brother when I mentioned earlier in this post that I was going to follow your selections, I owe you more.

No wonder I told you sometime earlier to stick only to Brissie and forget about Sydney or Melbourne.

I'm keeping my eyes out for your Brissie selections, and thanks.

maverick1993
12th December 2005, 07:32 PM
good to see you have a win D105 ..

was a day for favs..i was alittle dissapointed with myself as i had the winners of every race (besides Dont tell clang's race) rated in my top 3...
But if i didnt get the 1st4 in the 7th i would of come out behind..

goes to show how important your betting strategy is when its a day where it looks like alot of shorties will get up..

ps ..100% in Melbourne D105 ;)
and a $7 winner in Adelaide ;)
lets not mention Sydney or Dont Tell Clang ever again...

a4brianp
12th December 2005, 08:27 PM
Thanks or your thoughts on saturday mav and sven finished in front saturday thanks to you guys, then followed up with my trot tips so a good weekend had by me.
cheers
Barney