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Stix
28th March 2006, 01:24 PM
Hi All,

Michaelg's posts on neurals has got me thinking and has sent me back to the neural website for another look.

I've been playing around with some of the criteria and have settled on a combination of settings that has produced some nice results. These settings were initially set to my own preferences with some of michaelg's settings worked in there as well.

The results have thrown up good results for the last race of the meetings reviewed - thus the name of the system the "Get Out Stakes Neural System". Also allows me to post them well in advance :D

The dividends produced have been healthy and no real short priced selections have been produced (is this the pot of gold we all look for !?)

Thus far the results have shown: EDITED.

Now I know for the satisfaction of (some) members, I "should" reveal the criteria at the begining, but I will wait to see how it performs and then reveal the criteria at the end of April - give it time to find it's feet so to speak!

I will say that it prefers Course and Distance suitability as well as the Jockey/Trainer combination to be favourable.

I am also trialling (privately) the same system settings on races that are Class 2 and above. I have not yet filtered out any other races yet - ie. 2YO, <1200m race etc - time will dictate these. I will let you know the results at alater date - once this system falls over (LOL) ! - if anyone is interested.

Anyway the Get Out Stakes Neural System for March 28 are:

Randwick- Kensington R7-15 (3,1,5)
Taree R7-10 (5,3,2)
Townsville R7-6 (7,1,5)
Warrnambool R8-4 (3,9,8)
(Numbers in brackets are in case of scratchings)

Good Luck

Other days to come....

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The only profit/loss results posters are permitted to post on this forum about their selections MUST be based 100% on the selections posted in this forum.

Stix
28th March 2006, 01:27 PM
Albany R7-5 (2,1,7)
Davenport R8 - 3 (1,6,7)
Geelong R8-5 (7,6,12)
Ipswich R7-1 (9,11,2)
Kembla Grange R8-4 (8,5,1)
Murray Bridge R8 6 (5,7,4)

Stix
28th March 2006, 01:29 PM
Cranbourne R8-5 (11,1,4)
Gosford R8-7 (9,8,10)
Geraldton R7-10 (3,11,1)
Toowoomba R8-3 (1,7,4)

Stix
29th March 2006, 08:04 AM
........

Anyway the Get Out Stakes Neural System for March 28 are:

Randwick- Kensington R7-15 (3,1,5)
Taree R7-10 (5,3,2)
Townsville R7-6 (7,1,5)
Warrnambool R8-4 (3,9,8)
(Numbers in brackets are in case of scratchings)

Good Luck

Other days to come....

Randwick- Kensington R7-3 (15 Scr) UNPL
Taree R7-10 UNPL
Townsville R7-6 WON 6.0 2.0
Warrnambool R8-4 2ND 1.9
Bets 36
Wins 11 (34.4.3% SR)
Places 21 (65.6% SR)

Win POT 39.7%
Plc POT 45.3%

michaelg
29th March 2006, 11:17 AM
Hi, Stix.

Looks promising - hopefully it will prove to be so.

Stix
29th March 2006, 11:23 AM
Hi, Stix.

Looks promising - hopefully it will prove to be so..... as many systems/method tend to do initially.......

Your Jockey/Trainer method is going great guns.... I've kept a little s/sheet on the WA selections and it is going great guns (that's why I asked you earlier if you saw any real patterns or trends) something like 32& POT betting 1x4 with 38.7 Win SR and 80.6% Plc SR.... NTB (not too bad!)

Good luck.... as someone else put it.... the "shifting sands of time" will sort the wheat from the chaff.... (except the #14 system :D )....

Stix
29th March 2006, 06:01 PM
Albany R7-5 (2,1,7)
Davenport R8 - 3 (1,6,7)
Geelong R8-5 (7,6,12)
Ipswich R7-1 (9,11,2)
Kembla Grange R8-4 (8,5,1)
Murray Bridge R8 6 (5,7,4)


Davenport R8 - 3 (1,6,7) 3RD 2.00
Geelong R8-5 (7,6,12) UNP (Fav)
Ipswich R7-1 (9,11,2) UNP
Kembla Grange R8-4 (8,5,1) 4 SCR 8 UNP (4th)
Murray Bridge R8 6 (5,7,4) UNP (6th)
Still to come and the great white hope....

Albany R7-5 (2,1,7)
Well, the posting bug has hit well and truly today..... :(

No thoughts of changes or "fine tuning" at this stage, a bad day is/was bound to happen.... good to get it out of the way early !! ;) ..... only tested on small sample.... sticking with it !

Stix
30th March 2006, 09:26 AM
Albany R7-5 (2,1,7)


Albany R7-5 UNPL
Bets 38
Wins 11 (28.9% SR)
Places 22 (57.9& SR)

Win POT 17.7%
Plc POT 29.7%

Stix
30th March 2006, 09:29 AM
Eagle Farm R9-3 (2,12,10)
Goulburn R8-10 (14,5,6)
Quirindi R8-4 (5,3,10)
Sandown-Lakeside R7-7 (15,2,10)
Good Luck

Stix
30th March 2006, 10:12 AM
Anyone that has followed this thread will note a slight stuff-up in the the summary figures.... my formulae were wrong.... oops! sorry... :(

My apologies, in my haste I typed the wrong figures.... they should of been:

Original Post:
Prior to posting system:

Bets 28
Wins 10 (35.7% SR)
Places 19 (67.9% SR)

Win POT 134.6%
Plc POT 65.0%

After Bets on 28 March
Bets 32
Wins 11 (34.4.3% SR)
Places 21 (65.6% SR)

Win POT 124.1%
Plc POT 56.6%

After yesterday's bets the results were:
Bets 38
Wins 11 (28.9% SR)
Places 22 (57.9% SR)

Win POT 88.7%
Plc POT 37.1%

Now that I have (embarrassingly) cleared the air...... lets move on !

Sheesh.... If posting "after the fact" was bad......I now have negative credibility with the "Main Man" now..... :(

michaelg
30th March 2006, 11:04 AM
Terrific - let's hope today's four selections perform.

Have you looked at the exotics for these races?

Stix
30th March 2006, 11:12 AM
Terrific - let's hope today's four selections perform.

Have you looked at the exotics for these races?
I have had it in the back of my mind, have noted some of the results by haven't done a full review yet - I'll probably review the results so far, this weekend.

I'll let you know.

Stix
30th March 2006, 09:40 PM
Cranbourne R8-5 (11,1,4)
Gosford R8-7 (9,8,10)
Geraldton R7-10 (3,11,1)
Toowoomba R8-3 (1,7,4)


Cranbourne R8-5 (11,1,4) UNPL
Gosford R8-7 (9,8,10) UNPL
Geraldton R7-10 (3,11,1) UNPL
Toowoomba R8-3 (1,7,4) UNPL
Summary

Bets 42
Wins 11 (26.2% SR)
Places 22 (52.4% SR)

Win POT 70.7%
Plc POT 24.0%

Stix
31st March 2006, 10:55 AM
Ascot R9-1 (5,10,8)
Bendigo R8-6 (1,13,8)
Broken Hill R8-2 (1,4,6)
Caulfield R8-1 (3,4,8)
Cheltenham R8-1 (13,12,2)
Doomben R8-12 (7,8,1)
Gold Coast R8-7 (11,3,17)
Hawksbury R8- 12 (1,6,8)
Rosehill R9-9 (1,15,5)
Toowoomba R8-7 (8,1,2)
Good Luck....

Stix
31st March 2006, 10:57 AM
Bunbury R8-2 (11,5,10)
Sunshine Coast R8-13 (2,15,3)
Gundagai R7-2 (9,13,5)
Launceston R8-2 (3,4,1)
Sale R8-2 (6,4,13)
Strathalbyn R8-11 (4,1,8)
Wangaratta R10-14,5,3,2
Warwick Farm R8-4 (11,3,5)
Good Luck....

Stix
31st March 2006, 10:58 AM
Arrarat R8-11 (9,8,7)
Cessnock R7-7 (6,3,4)
Orange R9-3 (10,4,8)
Good Luck....

Stix
3rd April 2006, 11:26 AM
Eagle Farm R9-3 (2,12,10)
Goulburn R8-10 (14,5,6)
Quirindi R8-4 (5,3,10)
Sandown-Lakeside R7-7 (15,2,10)
Good Luck

Eagle Farm R9-3 (2,12,10) 3RD 1.8
Goulburn R8-10 (14,5,6) 10-SCR 14-WON 6.8 2.3
Quirindi R8-4 (5,3,10) UNP
Sandown-Lakeside R7-7 (15,2,10) UNPL
Bets 46
Wins 12 (26.1% SR)
Places 24 (52.2% SR)

Win POT 70.2%
Plc POT 22.2%

Stix
3rd April 2006, 11:31 AM
Ascot R9-1 (5,10,8)
Bendigo R8-6 (1,13,8)
Broken Hill R8-2 (1,4,6)
Caulfield R8-1 (3,4,8)
Cheltenham R8-1 (13,12,2)
Doomben R8-12 (7,8,1)
Gold Coast R8-7 (11,3,17)
Hawksbury R8- 12 (1,6,8)
Rosehill R9-9 (1,15,5)
Toowoomba R8-7 (8,1,2)
Good Luck....

Ascot R9-1 (5,10,8) UNP
Bendigo R8-6 (1,13,8) 2ND 3.0
Broken Hill R8-2 (1,4,6) NON TAB
Caulfield R8-1 (3,4,8) 3RD 1.7
Cheltenham R8-1 (13,12,2) WON 4.5 2.1
Doomben R8-12 (7,8,1) UNP
Gold Coast R8-7 (11,3,17) WON 2.5 1.2
Hawksbury R8- 12 (1,6,8) UNP
Rosehill R9-9 (1,15,5) 3RD 2.3
Toowoomba R8-7 (8,1,2) UNP
Bets 55
Wins 14 (25.5% SR)
Places 29 (52.7% SR)

Win POT 55.5%
Plc POT 21.1%

Stix
3rd April 2006, 11:34 AM
Bunbury R8-2 (11,5,10)
Sunshine Coast R8-13 (2,15,3)
Gundagai R7-2 (9,13,5)
Launceston R8-2 (3,4,1)
Sale R8-2 (6,4,13)
Strathalbyn R8-11 (4,1,8)
Wangaratta R10-14,5,3,2
Warwick Farm R8-4 (11,3,5)
Good Luck....

Bunbury R8-2 (11,5,10) WON 6.2 2.2
Sunshine Coast R8-13 (2,15,3) UNP
Gundagai R7-2 (9,13,5) WON 2.1 1.5
Launceston R8-2 (3,4,1) UNP
Sale R8-2 (6,4,13) 2-SCR 6-2ND 2.2
Strathalbyn R8-11 (4,1,8) UNP
Wangaratta R10-14,5,3,2 2ND 3.7
Warwick Farm R8-4 (11,3,5) UNP
Bets 63
Wins 16 (25.4% SR)
Places 33 (52.4% SR)

Win POT 48.9%
Plc POT 21.0%

Stix
3rd April 2006, 11:56 AM
Albany R7-5 2,7,9
Mackay R7-5 3,7,2
Port Macquarie R8-1 3,5,4
Terang R8-10 1,13,3
Good Luck...

Stix
4th April 2006, 09:21 AM
Arrarat R8-11 (9,8,7)
Cessnock R7-7 (6,3,4)
Orange R9-3 (10,4,8)
Good Luck....

Arrarat R8-11 (9,8,7) UNP
Cessnock R7-7 (6,3,4) UNP
Orange R9-3 (10,4,8) UNP
Bets 66
Wins 16 (24.2% SR)
Places 33 (50.0% SR)

Win POT 42.1%
Plc POT 15.5%

Stix
5th April 2006, 09:05 AM
Albany R7-5 2,7,9
Mackay R7-5 3,7,2
Port Macquarie R8-1 3,5,4
Terang R8-10 1,13,3
Good Luck...

Albany R7-5 2,7,9 UNP
Mackay R7-5 3,7,2 UNP
Port Macquarie R8-1 3,5,4 WON 3.8 1.5
Terang R8-10 1,13,3 UNP
Bets 70
Wins 17 (24.3% SR)
Places 34 (48.6% SR)

WPOT 39.4%
PPOT 11.0%

Stix
5th April 2006, 09:14 AM
I am also trialling (privately) the same system settings on races that are Class 2 and above. I have not yet filtered out any other races yet - ie. 2YO, <1200m race etc - time will dictate these. I will let you know the results at alater date - once this system falls over (LOL) ! - if anyone is interested.

........... only filter used (at this stage) is the race must be CL2 or greater.......

Bets 195
Wins 47 (24.1% SR)
Places 100 (51.3% SR)

Win POT 5.7%
Plc POT (2.3%)

Stix
5th April 2006, 12:24 PM
Ascot R8-8 (10,4,6)
Balaklava R8-5 (11,3,7)
Devonport R8-2* (5,3,11)
Ipswich R8-8 (9,3,10)
Sandown R8-1* (7,3,6)
Warwick Farm R7-7 (9,10,16)
Good Luck....

Stix
5th April 2006, 12:28 PM
Ballarat R8-15 (6,4,1)
Gosford R8-2 (4,6,3)
Pinjarra R10-6 (8,7,1)
Townsville R8-1 (7,6,3)
Good Luck....

Stix
6th April 2006, 10:48 AM
Ascot R8-8 (10,4,6)
Balaklava R8-5 (11,3,7)
Devonport R8-2* (5,3,11)
Ipswich R8-8 (9,3,10)
Sandown R8-1* (7,3,6)
Warwick Farm R7-7 (9,10,16)
Good Luck....

Ascot R8-8 (10,4,6) WON 15.2 3.6
Balaklava R8-5 (11,3,7)
Devonport R8-2* (5,3,11)
Ipswich R8-8 (9,3,10)
Sandown R8-1* (7,3,6) 3RD 1.9
Warwick Farm R7-7 (9,10,16)
Bets 76
Wins 18 (23.7% SR)
Places 36 (47.4% SR)

WPOT 48.4%
PPOT 9.5%

Stix
6th April 2006, 11:24 AM
Ballarat R8-15 (6,4,1)
Gosford R8-2 (4,6,3)
Pinjarra R10-6 (8,7,1)
Townsville R8-1 (7,6,3)
Good Luck....Townsville R8-1 (7,6,3) ABN

michaelg
6th April 2006, 11:33 AM
Great work, Stix!!!

Stix
6th April 2006, 11:52 AM
Cranbourne R9-4 (1,3,2)
Gold Coast R8-1 (9,10,4)
Goulburn R8-1 (2,6,4)
Grafton R8-3 (6,4,9)
Naracoorte R7-2* (15,10,11)
Good luck....

Stix
6th April 2006, 12:02 PM
Great work, Stix!!!..... here's hoping it will continue....

Stix
6th April 2006, 07:39 PM
Ballarat R8-15 (6,4,1)
Gosford R8-2 (4,6,3)
Pinjarra R10-6 (8,7,1)
Townsville R8-1 (7,6,3)
Good Luck....

Ballarat R8-15 (6,4,1) UNP
Gosford R8-2 (4,6,3) 3RD 1.5
Pinjarra R10-6 (8,7,1) WON 3.8 1.4 (21.90 Ex)
Townsville R8-1 (7,6,3)

Stix
10th April 2006, 11:23 AM
Cranbourne R9-4 (1,3,2)
Gold Coast R8-1 (9,10,4)
Goulburn R8-1 (2,6,4)
Grafton R8-3 (6,4,9)
Naracoorte R7-2* (15,10,11)
Good luck....

Cranbourne R9-4 (1,3,2) 2ND 4.8
Gold Coast R8-1 (9,10,4) UNP
Goulburn R8-1 (2,6,4) UNP
Grafton R8-3 (6,4,9) 2ND 2.3
Naracoorte R7-2* (15,10,11) UNP
Bets 84
Wins 19 (22.6% SR)
Places 40 (47.6% SR)

WPOT 38.8%
PPOT 11.0%

Stix
10th April 2006, 11:26 AM
Summary 9 April (lazy and can't be st*ffed posting them all)

Bets 100
Wins 21 (21.0% SR)
Places 47 (47.0% SR)

WPOT 22.5%
PPOT 13.5%

Not the best weekends results..... 2 winners from 17 bets (return 7.1) :( ... but there is always today ! ;)

Stix
10th April 2006, 11:27 AM
Coffs Harbour R7-1,4 (3,9)
Mildura R8-2* (9,4,7)
Moree R8-3 (10,8,9)
Good Luck...

Stix
10th April 2006, 05:36 PM
Coffs Harbour R7-1,4 (3,9)
Mildura R8-2* (9,4,7)
Moree R8-3 (10,8,9)
Good Luck...

Coffs Harbour R7-1,4 1-SCR 4-UNP
Mildura R8-2* WON 4.8 2.0
Moree R8-3 UNP
Bets 103
Wins 22 (23.6% SR)
Places 48 (46.6% SR)

WPOT 23.6%
PPOT 12.1%

Stix
11th April 2006, 11:48 AM
Moe R8-6* (8,7,10)
Wyong R9-5 (10,13,3)
Good Luck...

Stix
11th April 2006, 11:50 AM
Albury R7-4* (7,14,2)
Bendigo R8-13* (4,7,8)
Bunbury R8-7* (3,8,5)
Canterbury R7-10 (1,4,5)
Gawler R8-2* (8,1,10)
Ipswich R9-5 (3,17,9)
Good Luck....

KennyVictor
11th April 2006, 06:01 PM
Hi Stix,
I notice you are posting tips a few days in advance using the neurals. I've noticed that sometimes the figures change from doing the numbers a couple of days in advance to doing them on the day.
KV

Stix
11th April 2006, 07:55 PM
Hi Stix,
I notice you are posting tips a few days in advance using the neurals. I've noticed that sometimes the figures change from doing the numbers a couple of days in advance to doing them on the day.
KVKV
Thanks for the heads up, once I post them I don't revisit the site (I record the race details in CSV format)

I'll keep any eye on it from now on.

Thanks again, appreciate it.

Stix
12th April 2006, 10:04 AM
Moe R8-6* (8,7,10)
Wyong R9-5 (10,13,3)
Good Luck...Moe R8-6* (8,7,10) UNP
Wyong R9-5 (10,13,3) UNP

Bets 105
Wins 22 (21.0% SR)
Places 48 (45.7% SR)

WPOT 21.2%
PPOT 10.0%

4th day (out of 20) where no winner selected, albeit with only 2 meetings for the day..... but ticking over nicely (normalising)

Stix
12th April 2006, 10:15 AM
KV
Thanks for the heads up, once I post them I don't revisit the site (I record the race details in CSV format)

I'll keep any eye on it from now on.

Thanks again, appreciate it.
KV (or anyone else)

Do you know why the change? Is because of a replacement rider or updated form of horses that have run recently that come out of the same race?

Thanks

KennyVictor
12th April 2006, 10:52 AM
Guessing an update of form but not sure yet. I am investigating it (slowly). I found on one race that the jockey and trainer figures changed over a couple of days and the next race I found the first two columns had changed. More often than not they are the same over a couple of days though. If I find out any more I'll let you know.
KV

Stix
12th April 2006, 07:14 PM
Albury R7-4* (7,14,2)
Bendigo R8-13* (4,7,8)
Bunbury R8-7* (3,8,5)
Canterbury R7-10 (1,4,5)
Gawler R8-2* (8,1,10)
Ipswich R9-5 (3,17,9)
Good Luck....

Albury R7-4* (7,14,2) 2ND 2.4
Bendigo R8-13* (4,7,8) UNP
Bunbury R8-7* (3,8,5) UNP
Canterbury R7-10 (1,4,5) UNP
Gawler R8-2* (8,1,10) WON 4.1 1.5
Ipswich R9-5 (3,17,9) WON 8.8 2.5
Bets 111
Wins 24 (21.6% SR)
Places 51 (45.9% SR)

WPOT 26.3%
PPOT 9.8%

Stix
12th April 2006, 07:16 PM
Geraldton R7-6 1,5,2
Kembla Grange R8-3 11,13,1
Moonee Valley R8-1 9,7,5
Rockhampton R7-4* 8,6,2
Terang R8-7 8,10,5
Good luck...

Stix
15th April 2006, 01:16 PM
Geraldton R7-6 1,5,2
Kembla Grange R8-3 11,13,1
Moonee Valley R8-1 9,7,5
Rockhampton R7-4* 8,6,2
Terang R8-7 8,10,5
Good luck...Geraldton R7-6 1,5,2 6-SCR 1-WON 1.9 1.2
Kembla Grange R8-3 11,13,1 3 WON 4.5 1.7
Moonee Valley R8-1 9,7,5 UNP
Rockhampton R7-4* 8,6,2 UNP
Terang R8-7 8,10,5 WON 3.3 1.5

Bets 116
Wins 27 (23.3% SR)
Places 54 (46.6% SR)

WPOT 29.1%
PPOT 8.9%