First-Up

[bwuce]

I’ve noticed over time that many forumites shy away from backing / tipping horses running first-up after a spell. I think in general the uninformed punter does similar and as such backing specific ‘first-up’ horses can provide a nice return on investment.

I normally punt on a $4x$8 basis as often they will run a place (but not necessarily win) at big odds.

I select horses that are resuming from a spell of 6 months or less, with a previous good first-up record, that have been rated in my top 5 selections for the particular race.

Their race rating is based on the average of previous first-up performances max 3 most recent for 5YOs or older, or best of last 2 for 4YOs or younger.

I’ll often increase my outlay if they have performed well in recent barrier trial/s.

[partypooper]

Bwuce, my experience is that most races of 1200m or LESS are won by 1st uppers, as you say often at big odds. This rule also quite often catches the "STAYER" resuming at short distance and jags it, there have been some beauts like this.

[bwuce]

Today’s qualifiers are:-

Scone R6 1 Opal Chip
Scone R7 1 Diamond Ridge / 3 Endless Dream
Scone R8 4 Seven Stars / 7 Vernissage

All $4x$8

[bwuce]

Bwuce, my experience is that most races of 1200m or LESS are won by 1st uppers, as you say often at big odds. This rule also quite often catches the "STAYER" resuming at short distance and jags it, there have been some beauts like this.

You’re probably right partypooper but I have been including races up to 1400 - thanks :)

[Sportz]

Scone R6 1 Opal Chip


Well done!

He had a GREAT first-up record and a pretty good record at the track and the distance. How could he be those odds???

[classiconi]

Nice tip on the 6th bwuce, might tempt me to have a go at the next

[crash]

R6/1 Nice job for a toppy with 59kg. in 'slow' cond't. I had Queen Jill [$2.30p] for 2nd.

R8 My money is on Seven Stars who should win, even if it goes to heavy. 4 or 5 scratchings though so odds will be down and probably no 3rd. divvy.

[Sportz]

He had a GREAT first-up record and a pretty good record at the track and the distance. How could he be those odds???

Forgot to mention 3 previous placings from 3 starts in the wet too.

[bwuce]

Today’s qualifiers are:-

Scone R6 1 Opal Chip
Scone R7 1 Diamond Ridge / 3 Endless Dream
Scone R8 4 Seven Stars / 7 Vernissage

All $4x$8


Great start with Opal Chip winning - paid $11.30 & $2.80
Diamond Ridge & Endless Dream both unplaced
Vernissage late scratching
Seven Stars then finished things off on a good note winning the last - paid $1.70 & $1.10

Total outlay $48 Total return $83.20

[bwuce]

Today’s qualifiers (early races) are:-

Randwick R1 4 Hadaaf
Randwick R2 4 Sharp Aunty

All $4x$8

Back with the rest later

[bwuce]

Off to a terrible start! let's hope things improve :rolleyes:

Other qualifiers today are:-

Randwick R4 1 More Than Hugs $8x$16
Randwick R6 1 California Dane $8x$16 10 Our Sweet Moss 11 Century Serb both $4x$8

[Placid Ark]

First-upper (3) Elantone Park looks a strong chance in the last at Pinjarra today.

He has performed creditably 2 of 3 first-up starts, the other he had excuses when trapped wide most of journey higher class at Ascot.

Won a Belmont trial over 1000m earlier this month.

[Placid Ark]

First-upper (3) Elantone Park looks a strong chance in the last at Pinjarra today.

He has performed creditably 2 of 3 first-up starts, the other he had excuses when trapped wide most of journey higher class at Ascot.

Won a Belmont trial over 1000m earlier this month.

Finished midfield but well beaten. Interestingly started 2nd fav so it seems I was not on my lonesome in expecting Elantone Park to perform well first-up.

Perhaps I should start a 'second-up' thread LOL

[Placid Ark]

W.A. Guineas winner Cape North returns to the track this Saturday at Ascot.

No doubt he will be well fancied and did win first-up last campaign. But this time around has had a setback or two and no trials that I can see. He also has to lump 59kgs. Think I'll just watch ;)

[bwuce]

Off to a terrible start! let's hope things improve :rolleyes:

Other qualifiers today are:-

Randwick R4 1 More Than Hugs $8x$16
Randwick R6 1 California Dane $8x$16 10 Our Sweet Moss 11 Century Serb both $4x$8

Well, back to earth with a thud! A total of 6 bets Wed and not one return!!

Progress to-date
Total outlay $144 Total return $83.20

[bwuce]

Today’s qualifiers are:-

Grafton R6 7 Pimpala Blaze
Canberra R7 4 Beau Of Indies
Canberra R8 2 Edge Of The Storm 9 Bella Bandito

All $4x$8

[zaac64]

There are 3 first-uppers Eagle Farm race 7 tomorrow that are in with a good chance imo...Proudly Agro..Show Biz Kid..Deuxieme

Don't be misled by the poor first-up stats listed for Show Biz Kid..he has rated well first-up on a number occassions although not finishing 1,2or3..

In addition both Show Biz Kid & Deuxieme have trialled well recently..

[zaac64]

There are 3 first-uppers Eagle Farm race 7 tomorrow that are in with a good chance imo...Proudly Agro..Show Biz Kid..Deuxieme

Don't be misled by the poor first-up stats listed for Show Biz Kid..he has rated well first-up on a number occassions although not finishing 1,2or3..

In addition both Show Biz Kid & Deuxieme have trialled well recently..


Oops! Should read 4 first-uppers..add Daunting Lad..same race..

[goldeee]

Lee Curtis stable quietly confident that recent stable addition TWANGED will perform well today first-up at Kembla (race 4) ;)

[goldeee]

Lee Curtis stable quietly confident that recent stable addition TWANGED will perform well today first-up at Kembla (race 4) ;)

ran on very gamely for 2nd ...paid $2.90 place

[zaac64]

Oops! Should read 4 first-uppers..add Daunting Lad..same race..

A great effort to win first-up! (albeit on protest) more to come no doubt!!

[zaac64]

The topweight Captain Wheland - Townsville race 6 - has an impeccable record first-up. Won previous 4 starts (all this course) the last 3 by big margins!

[zaac64]

The topweight Captain Wheland - Townsville race 6 - has an impeccable record first-up. Won previous 4 starts (all this course) the last 3 by big margins!


EZY win Captain Wheland!! Multis CW as anchor paid pretty well, the tri just over 200 bucks, the first4 almost 700 bucks!

[chubby]

FLYING TEST Goldie R4! First-up record: 2-2-0-0

[peanutz]

DERBY PARADE should race handy from a good draw in the big field. Goes extra well first-up and suited the good track and distance. A very nice ew chance!

[zaac64]

The lightly raced Brave Action Doomben race 6 has a very nice first-up record and should start at ew odds!

[peanutz]

ILITHYIA was unlucky first-up last prep then won at next start after being freshened. Expecting a bold first-up performance today.

[POSEIDON]

(2) ICEDANE was very unlucky first start (over this course) should have won. Placed and won at 3 subsequent starts. Great chance first-up once more.

[humdinger]

race 7 no. 3 windon should do well first-up today

[addari]

The Gai Waterhouse trained 3YO gelding Tactical Response unbeaten at only 2 starts should be too strong for them first-up tomorrow. Gone well recent trials and has a 3kg apprentice claim just to make sure. Might not be much value so you might want bank off with Anniversary Prince, Carry The King and Catbird Kahn.

[Chuck Bar Lena]

(13) COUNTESS BATHORY goes good first-up and has good barrier

[catweazle]

FLEETING ECHO great first-up record and trained at the track!!

[THE PHANTOM]

MATEY goes very well fresh & is a multiple winner in the city

[4theboyz]

cessnock cup,.,.no penalty

[catweazle]

CRIMSON SUNRISE has a good first-up record and was placed in a recent Randwick barrier trial!

[rarebitz]

Dubbo last - AMISERE

[catweazle]

SYDNEY R4
FLYING DANSINO first-up record OK and comes off an easy Randwick trial win late last month.

BRISBANE R4
The John Hawkes trained TAMALES has a good first-up record and was placed in a recent Deagon barrier trial

MELBOURNE R4
PAINTED PURE has a very good first-up record and has won a few times in the heavy

[Cheda]

BR5 Prince of Steel

[catweazle]

COFFS HARBOUR R1
SCOTTALOT paced twice from 3 starts this course and gone well first-up previously

TOWNSVILLE R3
LUST IN SPACE looks well placed in this first-up record ok

TOWNSVILLE R5
PRINCE OF STEEL excellent strike rate and first-up record

[catweazle]

COFFS HARBOUR R1
SCOTTALOT paced twice from 3 starts this course and gone well first-up previously

TOWNSVILLE R3
LUST IN SPACE looks well placed in this first-up record ok

TOWNSVILLE R5
PRINCE OF STEEL excellent strike rate and first-up record


SCOTTALOT 1st
PRINCE OF STEEL 1st

[Cheda]

BR5 Prince of Steel

a handsome win!

[Cheda]

SR6 Imprisoned

[rsvp]

With placings at Doomben and Eagle Farm and a good first-up record horse (5) Smother is the way to go race 2 at the Port today.

[rsvp]

With placings at Doomben and Eagle Farm and a good first-up record horse (5) Smother is the way to go race 2 at the Port today.


Didn't start any fancy price but did win! :)

[Cheda]

Hawk2 Only He Knows – only start excellent 2nd Newcastle & the John Hawkes polish

Ipsw10 Two Dancers – last first/2nd-up best runs Efm looks a special today if repeat

[byanose]

9 STARS TURN OUT

[Neiltown]

Kyneton Race 3

1 - Rossi Bessi

Was scratched during the week to run today.

[bwuce]

Today’s qualifiers are:-

Townsville R3 2 Grand Central
Townsville R7 10 Strictly Smart
Muswellbrook R3 1 Lunch At Friscos
Wangaratta R9 5 Lasting Request
Wangaratta R10 3 Our Pal Benny

All $4x$8

[byanose]

7 SPURIOUS

[Even Stevens]

a number of first-uppers in this with genuine chances including some nice pricers - GOLDEN DOOR, MONASEECI, SIERRA VISTA & HE'S A HARRY

[Even Stevens]

first-upper SEXY BEAST good chance but a bit short for my liking
maybe multi boxed with FLYING DANSINO, MELODIC & MAJESTIC DREAMS

[Even Stevens]

a number of first-uppers in this with genuine chances including some nice pricers - GOLDEN DOOR, MONASEECI, SIERRA VISTA & HE'S A HARRY


didn't do too bad - MONASEECI 2nd beaten a lip, SIERRA VISTA 4th & HE'S A HARRY 3rd ;)

[Even Stevens]

first-upper SEXY BEAST good chance but a bit short for my liking
maybe multi boxed with FLYING DANSINO, MELODIC & MAJESTIC DREAMS


MELODIC 1st looks a bit above average, FLYING DANSINO 2nd fought on pretty well, SEXY BEAST just warming up last 75 to run 3rd

[peanutz]

ROBBO'S PAL

[peanutz]

BROOKTON FLASH

[rsvp]

BROOKTON FLASH


Good effort to win! Nice spotting peanutz :)

[rsvp]

(6) SILK AND MONEY has a very good first-up record and easily won a Port Macquarie trial mid May...

[rsvp]

(6) SILK AND MONEY has a very good first-up record and easily won a Port Macquarie trial mid May...


1st $11.00 / $3.00 Unitab :D

[peanutz]

BROOKTON FLASH


FIRST!! :)

[peanutz]

SPARTIATE

[peanutz]

PANTS MAN

[STARRAFT]

(6) PERSUADES good record this track and first-up.

[THE PHANTOM]

(1) Main Game gone well first-up b4 not too far away 2 recent trials.

[THE PHANTOM]

(1) Main Game gone well first-up b4 not too far away 2 recent trials.

FIRST! :D

[slowseriousstab]

COUNT VERDI & OFFSHORE ACCOUNT both gone well first-up in past & should be generous ew odds

[slowseriousstab]

COUNT VERDI & OFFSHORE ACCOUNT both gone well first-up in past & should be generous ew odds


Offshore Account DNP but Count Verdi ran 3rd paid $6.40 place unitab.
60% pot based on $1 ew both selections :)

[Happychap]

Kempsey 4 (4) Royal Sortie

Sapphire Coast 2 (6) Doraemon

Both go well first-up & look well placed today

[pipedream]

R3 - Fluro Fever - good first-up, has weight claim & has won in the heavy

[pipedream]

R3 - Fluro Fever - good first-up, has weight claim & has won in the heavy

Another 2ND! :rolleyes:

[Happychap]

Kempsey 4 (4) Royal Sortie

Sapphire Coast 2 (6) Doraemon

Both go well first-up & look well placed today


Royal Sortie - unplaced
Doraemon - won - $5.50 $2.00 UniTab

[goldenember]

TATURA R9 tomorrow YOUR LATEST TRICK

[STARRAFT]

(2) RISING INTEREST good record first-up.

[suds]

(15) PURPLE DANE

[Happychap]

Moe 9 (4) Serene Flash
Good first-up record..

[Happychap]

Moe 9 (4) Serene Flash
Good first-up record..


Serene Flash 1st 8/1!

[woody]

(3) Rock On By reported to be well above average won very easily first-up the Farm last campaign & looks set for a big effort again first-up tomorrow.

[Seekray]

(4) CLAREBELLA / (7) HIDDEN STASH

[goldenember]

WYONG R9 TEN OF HEARTS

[byanose]

4 BLOODSTONE winner this course & first-up.

[byanose]

5 SWIFT DANCER gone good first-up previously.

[suds]

WAGGA R6 LOVE GOD yet to miss a place first-up.

Also saver EW GENIAL KID goes well the wet.

[goldenember]

SANDOWN R4 tomorrow POIGNANT

[shaven]

(3) TREASURE PRINCE Janelle Shapter (Ballina) Ms L Cook

[nutz]

R5 Giacometti
R7 Ontheroadtonowhere

[nutz]

R5 Giacometti
R7 Ontheroadtonowhere


Giacometti 2nd Ontheroadtonowhere dnp

[squirtz]

2 DORER (9) Paul Perry (Broadmeadow) A W Robinson 57 First-up:3-1-0-0
13 MOON SWEEP (14) John Wright (Fairhall Park) Not Notified 54 First-up:3-2-0-1

Should be value both totes

[Happychap]

Sunny Coast 4 (2) Welsh Dragon
Good first-up record..won in slow..

[suds]

CANTERBURY R7 both totes SMART MAXIE - First-up:3-2-0-1

[suds]

CANTERBURY R7 both totes SMART MAXIE - First-up:3-2-0-1


Game effort to win :)

[Happychap]

Geelong 7 (5) Great Provider & (9) Taxable Income
Both have good first-up records..

[Happychap]

Geelong 7 (5) Great Provider & (9) Taxable Income
Both have good first-up records..


Great Provider a winner although final div a bit shorter than I expected..

[proxy]

SCONE 7 EW STONEWALL JACK

Winner this track & first-up form ok.

[suds]

HAWKESBURY R7 SOL MERE first-up record ok

[horsewithnoname]

next at the farm (r8) Gonzalo ew

[horsewithnoname]

next at the farm (r8) Gonzalo ew

forget it went around! boxed up most of the straight, only got out late :(

[slowseriousstab]

Clems Hope good first-up record & the one to beat

Others for multis Sharp Mind, Mimibell, Enciamo, Gold Waltz & River Lawrence

[wotarun]

FRISCO'S LASS
First-up:4-3-1-0

[wotarun]

FRISCO'S LASS
First-up:4-3-1-0


1st :)

[Cheda]

Race 6 Doomben EW Course He's Canny, has a good first-up record & goes well over the 1200.,.,

[wotarun]

PENTUP
First-up:3-2-0-0

[peanutz]

R8 PINK PRINCESS
R9 JAYEMZED / RIVIERA REVELLER

[proxy]

R2 Donna Spur
R4 Shot At Fame

[blinkerz]

Race 7 (10) Oh Oklahoma goes well first-up (2:1-1-0) and did win a trial at Rosehill early this month.

[catweazle]

COSTLY
MENDOCINO

Both have ok first-up records

[arnoldz]

R5 No. 8 WENCESLAS SQUARE – goes ok first-up & placed the wet

[arnoldz]

R5 No. 8 WENCESLAS SQUARE – goes ok first-up & placed the wet

FOURTH!

[TobinBronze]

Sydney race 5 Patezza / Primus
Sydney race 7 Desert War / Courts In Session
Sydney race 8 Gallant Tess / Tuesday Joy
Sydney race 9 Just Mambo
Doomben race 7 Mythological

[POSEIDON]

RACE 3
Miss Finland

RACE 6
Fields of Omagh

RACE 8
Calafornia Dane
Dea
Holding

[Seekray]

RACE 3
Miss Finland

RACE 6
Fields of Omagh

RACE 8
Calafornia Dane
Dea
Holding

Hi Poseidon :) Like a few of those myself. Good start with Miss Finland, let's hope you can land a few more.

[catweazle]

MANORWOOD

Goes ok first-up

[chubby]

AIN'T SHE LOVELY R4
SIR EDMUND R10

[chubby]

TRAILBLAZERS R7

[AdriamnT]

Bathurst R8 H8 Sir Edmund

[AdriamnT]

Bathurst R8 H8 Sir Edmund


...and the winner was....Sir Edmund! :)

[chubby]

CASTERTON TUE
SIR BRIEF R8

WARWICK FARM TUE
RUBRIC R2

[westman]

CASTERTON TUE
SIR BRIEF R8

WARWICK FARM TUE
RUBRIC R2

Looks like a small profit overall with Rubric winning. All the best chubby.

[catweazle]

TANTRALITE

Goes ok first-up

[shaven]

SUNSHINE COAST 8 (2) CULTIVATION Ric McMahon (a)

[shaven]

LISMORE 4 (1) BREBEAUDAN LAD Michael Palmer (a3)

[headsNtails]

Canterbury race 3 (6) MEDUESA

[horsewithnoname]

1 PRINCE OF PIRATES e/w

[catweazle]

Admirelle [first-up] looks a decent chance

[nutz]

RACE 7

Very Canny has a nice barrier and good first-up record..

[theshoe]

next at Mildura - Outback Boy has a solid firstup record

[CrazyHorse]

BENDIGO R7 Thur (7) Galliard - should run well, good barrier & first-up record

[headsNtails]

I backed Miss Evergreen when she won at her debut at Sale some months back. ..impressed me that win doing it very easily and should be hard to hold out first-up tonite...also having a saver on the Hayes trained Saywaan who won at Ballarat back in Aug.

[headsNtails]

I backed Miss Evergreen when she won at her debut at Sale some months back. ..impressed me that win doing it very easily and should be hard to hold out first-up tonite...also having a saver on the Hayes trained Saywaan who won at Ballarat back in Aug.


Miss Evergreen 1st
Saywaan 3rd

[Ozgunner]

Intricate

[thefanatic]

EAGLE FARM R5 (2) Forestreno

[thefanatic]

EAGLE FARM R5 (2) Forestreno


non-starter :(

[ubetiwill]

Good first-up:

2 BLARNEY WISH
7 PROTEST VOTE

[slowseriousstab]

MR8 GEE I JANE goes well first-up. E/W

[goldenember]

Flemington race 9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5x10 [7] Shinzig

[AdriamnT]

Randwick R6 H9 Europa E/W

[Matilda]

Flemington R5-9 Ejaad. E/W.

[catweazle]

EW HANNA ROSSA gone good first-up in the past

[catweazle]

EW HANNA ROSSA gone good first-up in the past

Started short but did win!

[Chuck Bar Lena]

MR1 AIRSTREAM
SR5 PRINCE ARTHUR
BR7 LORD ASTERIX

All normally put-in first-up

[Chuck Bar Lena]

MR1 AIRSTREAM
SR5 PRINCE ARTHUR
BR7 LORD ASTERIX

All normally put-in first-up


PRINCE ARTHUR my only winner but a profit overall :)

[wildtom]

TATURA R7 CHUCKELLET

[woody]

Tin Pan and Piculet are both capable of strong first-up performances ;)

[bagwon]

Sandown R4 HURRICANE GUST

[bagwon]

Sandown R4 HURRICANE GUST

No gust in that hurricane LOL

[goldenember]

Today CRANBOURNE race 8 (7) RIBOLLITA normally does well first-up!

[goldenember]

Today WODONGA race 9 (11) RIDGEBACK normally does well first-up!

[In_retrospect]

Race 6 at MURWILLUMBAH today like e/w 5 Monte Bianco..,,gone ok first-up previously & should get a good run from the 1 marble.

[thefanatic]

RANDWICK R7 WED:

[4] Rikkizar E/W one from one first-up & eazy trial winner Nov 21 ..

[thefanatic]

RANDWICK R7 WED:

[4] Rikkizar E/W one from one first-up & eazy trial winner Nov 21 ..


2nd beaten 1/2 an eyelash

[slowseriousstab]

8 THE SPEAR EW
8 THE SPEAR - F [boxed f2 novelties]

[theshoe]

Taree race 8 today e/w (3) King Benji [First-up:2-2-0-0]

[blinkerz]

Sapphire Race 7 today E/W No.3 Ariante

[Gasomo93]

Kilmore r6 today tab 3 Assessor
EW
With the field F2 novelties
With the field doubles (1st / 2nd leg depending where u bet)

[theshoe]

Bendigo race 7 today e/w (4) Great Provider [First-up:3-2-0-0]

[chubby]

SR8 EW ZAROUK

[suds]

SUNSHINE COAST R5 SUN

2-THUNDERING GIRL EW

[Cheda]

Wagga race 8 no. 5 Sobeit good ew chance first-up record ok

[Cheda]

Wagga race 8 no. 5 Sobeit good ew chance first-up record ok

Finished 3rd

[sportsmad]

GOLD COAST R5 (1) MOMFASA should go ok first-up. Saver (2) CASHKITTY

[Red Anchor]

very stiff there sportsmad..... bitterly unfortunate to get beaten by a despised 50-1 pop

[sportsmad]

very stiff there sportsmad..... bitterly unfortunate to get beaten by a despised 50-1 pop

Not all lost Red Anchor. Had both horses with the field quinella.

[Red Anchor]

u handled it bewtifully sportsmad

[Chiquita]

A few horses racing first-up today look ok ew.

Albury
Race 6 Satirical Impact

Mackay
Race 6 Can Go & Love God

Yarra Valley
Race 8 Gold Arches & Onemusttakearisk

[Chiquita]

Perhaps 2nd-up ;)

[wildtom]

ECHUCA Tues R5 1) QUESTION OF TIME

[Radar67]

IPSWICH Race 6 2-RUFFS E/W

[wildtom]

SUNSHINE COAST R1 FANLITE
PAKENHAM R5 PERFECT RULE
KILMORE R4 BOMBORA BLAZE

[watsonnek]

Good stuff tom!

[wildtom]

Yep almost 100% win hit rate (but did manage 100% place rate). Rawiller rode Bombora Blaze a treat.

[kiwiz]

Tues MR8 Dekaap

[kiwiz]

No money for Dekaap today & ran unplaced. Thankfully reduced my outlay substantially! Phew!!

[woody]

A few first-uppers in this with a good show. In particular:
(1) BRIELLA & (3) STREZLECKI PRINCE

also box 1,2,3,4,5,6 multiples

[woody]

A few first-uppers in this with a good show. In particular:
(1) BRIELLA & (3) STREZLECKI PRINCE

also box 1,2,3,4,5,6 multiples

2 OBOE D'AMOR
4 KODACHROME
3 STREZLECKI PRINCE

[ubetiwill]

Rocky R2 today No.1 Steel Cap should do well first-up. Main danger Bikini Bottom who should be fitter for 2 runs in.

[ubetiwill]

Rocky R2 today No.1 Steel Cap should do well first-up. Main danger Bikini Bottom who should be fitter for 2 runs in.


Steel Cap 1st....Bikini Bottom 2nd...

[pipedream]

Murwillumbah Race 7 Friday Tab 8 Double Lineage has a good first-up record. Main dangers Tab 2 Star Of St. Covet Tab 6 Monte Bianco. Others 1,3,5. Might play around with the novelties.

[nutz]

SR 7 MENTALITY

[watsonnek]

MOONEE VALLEY R6 Sat:

6 MISS ANDRETTI

[pipedream]

MR4-2 Deferential

[AdriamnT]

Rosehill R4 H9 Amory Lane
Rosehill R8 H4 Magically
Rosehill R9 H11 Devout

[ashman76]

SR 8 Triscay Stks - 1200m

- H2 Doubting - First Up: 4 starts. 1 0 3

- H6 Sugarbomb - First Up: 4 starts. 3 1 0

[westi]

Nice tipping SR8 ashman76!
Ditto SR4 AdriamnT.

and $593.00 tri SR8 coupling thread tips (3 only), well done guys!!

[Spartacus]

quite happy i had a coupla dollars e/w doubting too


pity didn't take it in the NPL though

[wasgoner]

Mackay R1 N1 Higher Yield
NZ R5 N6 Miss Panui

[Chiquita]

SR2 today (9) Devout

[Chiquita]

SR2 today (9) Devout

winner but very short

[bagwon]

VR6 Jezeera

[wotarun]

Warrnambool R8 Rubyraja
Narrogin R4 Sweet Boots

[Ozgunner]

brissie r7 sat naval seal

[Ozgunner]

brissie r7 sat naval seal

also brissie r5 ancient impulse

[chubby]

sr7 centre fire / captains way
ar9 oxford geisha

[basilsbets]

Morining Time Canterbury R2
Zimaretto Canterbury R3
Plotted Canterbury R4
Cocoruru Canterbury R6

[Chuck Bar Lena]

Morining Time Canterbury R2
Zimaretto Canterbury R3
Plotted Canterbury R4
Cocoruru Canterbury R6

Not a bad effort basil, nice take Plotted!

[Stix]

Caulfield
R1-1 Diplomatic Force
R6-1 Chitabe

Rosehill
R1-5 Glenbawn Star
R3-10 Billy Ford
R4-2 Lovely Lucy

Eagle Farm
R8-6 Seven Crownies

Morphetville
R2-1 St Trinians
R4-14 Belle Grande
R5-3 BirdBrain
Good Luck...

[Stix]

Caulfield
R1-1 Diplomatic Force WON 5.8 3.0
R6-1 Chitabe UNP

Rosehill
R1-5 Glenbawn Star 2nd 4.6
R3-10 Billy Ford UNP
R4-2 Lovely Lucy UNP

Eagle Farm
R8-6 Seven Crownies UNP

Morphetville
R2-1 St Trinians WON 3.5 1.7
R4-14 Belle Grande 3rd 1.7
R5-3 BirdBrain UNP
Good Luck...
2 wins
4 placings

[Davi]

1-ENCOSTA TSZYU

[shaven]

Canterbury R8 (3) For Action
Sale R8 (7) Sans Lee
Sale R9 (4) Mezzegie
Ipswich R6 (1) Main Vein

[shaven]

Canterbury R8 (3) For Action First
Sale R8 (7) Sans Lee First
Sale R9 (4) Mezzegie Third
Ipswich R6 (1) Main Vein First

[Happychap]

3 SINGLE ROSE

[Happychap]

3 SINGLE ROSE

..and another notch in single rose's first-up record :)

[kiwiz]

Canterbury R8 Wed

3-Hipster Doofus

[kiwiz]

Canterbury R8 Wed

3-Hipster Doofus


Won!

[catweazle]

DONALD SUN
R5 no. 4 Ski For Kings
R5 no. 7 Bigtime Charlie
R7 no. 7 Ellay Confidential
R7 no. 10 Acquibaa
R8 no. 6 Roman Spirit

KALGOORLIE SUN
R3 no. 2 Wild Frankie
R6 no. 6 Takeover Queen

MORNINGTON SUN
R8 no. 8 Divine Proportion

MURWILLUMBAH SUN
R4 no. 8 Street Parade
R8 no. 1 Amore

WELLINGTON SUN
R4 no. 15 Waterbindoor

[catweazle]

DONALD SUN
R5 no. 4 Ski For Kings
R5 no. 7 Bigtime Charlie
R7 no. 7 Ellay Confidential
R7 no. 10 Acquibaa
R8 no. 6 Roman Spirit

KALGOORLIE SUN
R3 no. 2 Wild Frankie
R6 no. 6 Takeover Queen

MORNINGTON SUN
R8 no. 8 Divine Proportion

MURWILLUMBAH SUN
R4 no. 8 Street Parade
R8 no. 1 Amore

WELLINGTON SUN
R4 no. 15 Waterbindoor

A few scratched, a few placed but just 1 winner :o

[Galilee]

A couple at the Sapphire Coast that should race well today first-up - Phantom Tenor r2 & Hidden Oasis r5

[Galilee]

A couple at the Sapphire Coast that should race well today first-up - Phantom Tenor r2 & Hidden Oasis r5

1st 5 PHANTOM TENOR 7.20 2.70

[peanutz]

ECHUCA R8 N8 BRAHMS LEGACY

[Ozgunner]

WANGARATTA 1st
this trio of first uppers could easily make up the first3

#4 MAJESTICAL #6 PRAGUE #11 JIMODA

[Little Imagele]

Although Chilli Cool is yet to be placed first-up has gone ok previously & does look very well graded today

[bwuce]

QR5 Sparkling Wish should run well first-up
The top-weight Allroar looks the main danger

[bwuce]

Eagle Farm R1 3 Ritzy Gal
Eagle Farm R2 15 Lights Off
Eagle Farm R7 5 Turfiste

All $4x$8

[suds]

marana majic r7 adelaide today should do ok first-up

[Chiquita]

nice ew odds flaming inferno last at forbes. first-up record ok.

[eddie72]

Morphettville today
R7 Niconero

[eddie72]

Randwick today
R5 Sliding Cube

[eddie72]

Randwick today
R5 Sliding Cube

...just got there! also had Mimi [place bet thread] F4 paid ok

[byanose]

Viognier unlucky first-up last prep
Good ew odds in this

[Modem]

A couple of interesting first-uppers R1 Belmont tomorrow - Reassess & Sharev.
Handy form earlier this year at Ascot. 6,9,10 & 11 others for your multiples.

[suds]

good call modem almost a dead-heat

[Modem]

Yeah, actually thought Reassess had hung on
In the end anchored them in the tri
$200+ for $20

[suds]

yeah reassess had it won everywhere but on the post...but all credit due...good run by sharev to win the race!

[suds]

opener melbourne a few 1st-uppers might just get the tri boxing nos. 2,4,5,11

[suds]

result 11,2,9

[armchairjock]

R2 (2) Newgrange
R5 (2) Hurri Love

[Ozgunner]

TATURA 6th #5 JETERA #10 HIGH ON GOLD

[blinkerz]

shooshed should do ok today first-up at wagga...

[blinkerz]

...won

[thecritic]

backing first-up a bit dicey imo..,,although do consider them sometimes if they have good trial form leading up to the race as well as a strong first-up record...

[King Cugat]

i used to keep stats on this..... not all races, just the ones my system bet on. I did this to see if i could improve it by removing any stat that was negative. i no longer have the stats as i made judgement years ago on my findings.

1st up strike rate was much better then 2nd up with 3rd up the most succesful.
Also interesting horses having their 5th+ start after a spell was only average

Part of my conclusion was that the market knows how horses handle each outing. i.e. a good first up horse was shown in the market where as a horse needing the run was larger odds. Now thats might sound obvious but horses rarely turn their precedented stats around in this area. I check every horse for this particualr stat, every race......it rarely lets you down as a guide.

[thecritic]

yeah 3rd start [onwards] after a spell works for me ;)

[bwuce]

Narromine R1 4 Mr Poet
Sale R1 16 Skybee
Sale R4 2 Encroacher

All $4x$8

[pipedream]

wyong wed r4 aunt maude

[bwuce]

Mr Poet won
Skybee ran 2nd
Encroacher ran 3rd

[sportzRus]

Today punters should consider these first-up:

MR2 7
MR5 6
MR8 7
SR3 5
SR7 8

[sportzRus]

MR2 7 – 2nd
MR5 6 - dnp
MR8 7 - dnp
SR3 5 – 1st
SR7 8 – 1st

[Ozgunner]

Wyong 7th #6 SPANKYS LADDER
Bunbury 6th #2 LORDS RANSOM
Eagle Farm 2nd #1 MASTER HUGH
Eagle Farm 3rd #1 BENS THE BOSS

[suds]

ASCOT R6 Baltic Sea
sound first-up record in the west

[sportsmad]

R5 Sale today Bronzetta should do well first-up.
Others for the novelties:
High Intensity, Camp Dawn, Spot The Line & Lord Of Lauriston

[sportsmad]

R7 Hawkesbury today both Illuminates & Kulminator have done well first-up in the past.

[Chiquita]

based on previous performances this lot should go close first-up today

PM R1 Whatamoment R7 Ten Ci Ci R8 Heavenly Glow & Eiremaize
SEY R8 Feedback

[bagwon]

a hard race on paper but first-upper poetic genius should run well
also boxing 5,9,10,12,13 first2 novelties & chucking in 4&7 3rd leg tri

[bagwon]

as i said...a hard race

[slowseriousstab]

MR 6 EW #1 Hanna Rossa normally goes extra well first-up

[slowseriousstab]

cant ask for anything more!

[watsonnek]

Certainly can't! Made a nice profit on Hanna Rossa myself. Thanks :)

[suds]

R3 Ipswich Trivo & Extreme Danger

[Even Stevens]

Doomben 6 Rosco’s Circus
Sandown 4 Afterburn
Canterbury 6 Get It Off

[goldeee]

Give these a go today both totes
Sunshine Coast
R1H1
R4H16
R5H1H2
R8H2

[goldeee]

...and a couple at Sandown in the next

R6H2H4

[sportzfan]

rosehill r5 today...atomic force

[sportzfan]

no show atomic force (scr)...watch for big first-up effort...