Overseas Horse Racing

[MyHatMyCoat]

Mixed luck for trainer Aidan O’Brien in the Irish Derby overnight. Originally had 3 of the 7 acceptors for the race - Camelot, Imperial Monarch & Astrology. However Imperial Monarch which had been shortening steadily in the betting to be the clear second-favourite behind his stablemate Camelot, was a late scratching. Still Aidan got the winner, Camelot. The trainers 7th consecutive win in the Irish Derby.

[jake]

Didn't he do it well! Perhaps one more run before heading home to take up stallion duties.
so you think..10-11 fav..eclipse stakes..this weekend

[rhino82]

so you think..10-11 fav..eclipse stakes..this weekend
Not to run, found to be lame in his stable

[rhino82]

So You Think won't race again, will be having fun at the stud

[Sands]

So You Think will stand for a fee of $66,000 - an Australian 1st-season sire record
Hope they treat him well

[jake]

ireland..bellewstown..r5..main..discoteca..next best..king vuvuzela..slew charm..west of the border..& dibella

[rhino82]

Will we see the best from Sepoy this Saturday, in the July Cup. Godolphin trainer Mahmood Al Zarooni reckons we will.

[jake]

Will we see the best from Sepoy this Saturday, in the July Cup. Godolphin trainer Mahmood Al Zarooni reckons we will.
..ortensia in the race as well

[jimbob]

should be a few good races https://imageshackau.com/sports/131/b/happy.gifhttps://imageshackau.com/sports/133/b/happy.gifhttps://imageshackau.com/sports/138/b/happy.gif
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[rhino82]

Will we see the best from Sepoy this Saturday, in the July Cup. Godolphin trainer Mahmood Al Zarooni reckons we will.
Ran 11th of 12

[Rogan Josh]

..ortensia in the race as well
Did well considering the heavy track. Trainer Paul Messara not unhappy, already planning her next run in the Old Dart.

[rhino82]

If your horse can't handle the wet, wouldn't bother heading to the UK to race. Regardless of the season. Heavy rainfall & thunderstorms not uncommon in the summer months, from what I have been told.

[Sands]

So just how good is the German 3yo filly Danedream
Won the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe by 5 lengths,,the time 2:24.49,,the fastest ever recorded in the Arc

http://50.23.239.34/race/2011_Prix_de_lArc_de_Triomphe_G1
Now the first filly ever to win both the Prix de L’Arc de Triomphe and the King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes.

However the 1st leg still the best according to British Horseracing Authority handicappers, who have rated Danedream's win on Saturday (King George) as 6 pounds inferior to her dominant win in last year's Group I Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Danedream paid $15 win on my tab

[kiwiz]

$15 on mine too :)

[kiwiz]

Frankel now 12 from 12 after 6len win Sussex Stakes this morning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmywloNuYyU

[Rogan Josh]

Obviously not near a good but Frankel's little brother Noble Mission also won, day-1 of the "Glorious Goodwood" carnival

[kiwiz]

So You Think won't race again, will be having fun at the stud
So You Think flown back to Australia this week

[jake]

Did well considering the heavy track. Trainer Paul Messara not unhappy, already planning her next run in the Old Dart.
..planned it well..conditions to suit..ortentsia did it easily

[rhino82]

Got $8 early betting on Ortensia, pleasantly surprised considering the field looked a little below the race standard

[MyHatMyCoat]

Frankel now 12 from 12 after 6len win Sussex Stakes this morning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmywloNuYyU
Perhaps 3 more starts for Frankel before beginning life as an elite stallion.

[MyHatMyCoat]

The Juddmonte International at York on August 22 looms as his next target.

[rhino82]

The Juddmonte International at York on August 22 looms as his next target.
First attempt at 2000 metres

[jake]

The Juddmonte International at York on August 22 looms as his next target.
..if frankel wins he will set new world record for consecutive group 1 wins

[kiwiz]

Mount Athos Melbourne Cup bound after an easy win G3 Geoffrey Freer Stakes at Newbury on the weekend
As per trainer Luca Cumani the plan is for Mount Athos to go into quarantine for 2 weeks starting on Sep 12 then travel to Australia on Sep 27 or 28

[Sands]

..if frankel wins he will set new world record for consecutive group 1 wins
Current market Juddmonte International Stakes

Frankel 1.10 1.01
St Nicholas Abbey 9.00 1.33
Twice Over 31.00 2.25
Farhh 31.00 2.25
Planteur 81.00 4.33
Sri Putra 126.00 6.20
Robin Hood 151.00 7.25
Windsor Palace 151.00 7.25
Bullet Train 151.00 7.25

[kiwiz]

Frankel 13-0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr_ChX6Jv4s

[Shaun]

Why do they all go to the outside, why not stick to the rails?

[jake]

Frankel 13-0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr_ChX6Jv4s

..absolutely no trouble handling the extra distance!

[kiwiz]

Mount Athos Melbourne Cup bound after an easy win G3 Geoffrey Freer Stakes at Newbury on the weekend
As per trainer Luca Cumani the plan is for Mount Athos to go into quarantine for 2 weeks starting on Sep 12 then travel to Australia on Sep 27 or 28
Mount Athos is now the early Melbourne Cup fav at most of the major betting agencies

[kiwiz]

Got $8 early betting on Ortensia, pleasantly surprised considering the field looked a little below the race standard
Ortensia goes around again tomorrow morning,,Coolmore Nunthorpe Stakes at York

[kiwiz]

Ortensia too strong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5YWGi8-byo

[Sands]

Didn't she fly the last bit!

[Rogan Josh]

Ortensia too strong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5YWGi8-byo
Huge performance Paul Messara, preparing Ortensia to win 3 Group 1s in 3 different countries, in the past 9 months!

[kiwiz]

Ortensia goes around again this weekend,,Sprint Cup at Haydock Park

[kiwiz]

Busy boy jockey William Buick
After he completes his ride on Ortensia on Saturday will catch a helicopter to Ireland to ride Nathaniel in the Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown 2 hours later

[rhino82]

That's what I call keen

[Sands]

Ortensia goes around again this weekend,,Sprint Cup at Haydock Park
Ortensia currently sharing favouritism with Bated Breath at around 3/1

[kiwiz]

Ortensia down the track
After the race it was discovered the mare had badly spliced her right fetlock

[Sands]

16 horses nominated for the Caulfield & Melbourne Cups & Cox Plate have entered quarantine prior to their shipment to Australia later this month

They are:
•Afsare
•Americain
•Brigantin
•Dunaden
•Energia Elegante
•Galileo's Choice
•Gatewood
•Ibicenco
•Jakkalberry
•Mount Athos
•Prairie Star
•Quest For Peace
•Saghann
•Shahwardi
•Tac de Boistron
•Why Not

[kiwiz]

3 of those horses have been nominated for the Cox
Americain,,Afsare & Shahwardi
Surprised Shahwardi heading down-under as I don't think he has won for some time
Is stablemate of Americain

[kiwiz]

Afsare only nominated for the Cox I think
Form does look good & relevant

[jimmyz]

Afsare a bit unlucky in the Arlington Million last month where he ran 2nd. Definitely one to watch kiwiz, as he appears back in form after performing below par his previous campaign.

[kiwiz]

$41 / $11 freely available for Afsare in the Cox Plate

[kiwiz]

Similar odds for Americain

[jimmyz]

$41 / $11 freely available for Afsare in the Cox Plate
A little each-way won't break the bank & who knows could end up a nice windfall ;)

[Rogan Josh]

16 horses nominated for the Caulfield & Melbourne Cups & Cox Plate have entered quarantine prior to their shipment to Australia later this month

They are:
•Afsare
•Americain
•Brigantin
•Dunaden
•Energia Elegante
•Galileo's Choice
•Gatewood
•Ibicenco
•Jakkalberry
•Mount Athos
•Prairie Star
•Quest For Peace
•Saghann
•Shahwardi
•Tac de Boistron
•Why Not
Dunaden recovering from a foot abscess but still likely to head down-under with this batch.

[kiwiz]

Dunaden recovering from a foot abscess but still likely to head down-under with this batch.
I think they're in transit including Dunaden

[kumite]

16 horses nominated for the Caulfield & Melbourne Cups & Cox Plate have entered quarantine prior to their shipment to Australia later this month

They are:
•Afsare
•Americain
•Brigantin
•Dunaden
•Energia Elegante
•Galileo's Choice
•Gatewood
•Ibicenco
•Jakkalberry
•Mount Athos
•Prairie Star
•Quest For Peace
•Saghann
•Shahwardi
•Tac de Boistron
•Why Not
All have arrived safe & well, now at the International Horse Centre at Werribee

[kiwiz]

Brigantin & Shawardi bypassing the Caulfield Cup & targeting the Geelong Cup before the Melbourne Cup

[Sands]

$41 / $11 freely available for Afsare in the Cox Plate
Good trackwork since landing at Werribee

[kiwiz]

Afsare suffered an injury to his near side foreleg during exercise this week so bit of a day-by-day prospect at the moment

[grizzle]

Surprised Shahwardi heading down-under as I don't think he has won for some time
Is stablemate of Americain
They obviously know what they're doing the way Shahwardi won today

[jimmyz]

Good odds, too.

[grizzle]

Shahwardi now assured of a start in the Caulfield Cup but likely to miss that race for the BIG one

[jimmyz]

A little each-way won't break the bank & who knows could end up a nice windfall ;)
Maybe next year for Afsare.

[kumite]

frankel's younger half-brother morpheus failed to flatter on debut in a maiden at nottingham yesterday
sent out 3/1 second favourite so a lot of punters got their fingers burnt

[rhino82]

Dunaden recovering from a foot abscess but still likely to head down-under with this batch.
Fully recovered, obviously

[grizzle]

Frankel 14 from 14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtoVar8_fU4&feature=player_embedded

[kiwiz]

Frankel will now head to stud
His stud fee is expected to be in the region of £100,000 which make his earning capacity around £10m a year

[rhino82]

Mount Athos is now the early Melbourne Cup fav at most of the major betting agencies
I see he is 3rd on the line in betting now, no surprise really, Americain & Dunaden both bottler Caulfield Cup runs

[Sands]

Frankel 14 from 14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtoVar8_fU4&feature=player_embedded
2nd horse Cirrus Des Aigles ran a nice race

[kiwiz]

Yep Cirrus Des Aigles nice run
Hong Kong Cup bound

[kiwiz]

16 horses nominated for the Caulfield & Melbourne Cups & Cox Plate have entered quarantine prior to their shipment to Australia later this month

They are:
•Afsare
•Americain
•Brigantin
•Dunaden
•Energia Elegante
•Galileo's Choice
•Gatewood
•Ibicenco
•Jakkalberry
•Mount Athos
•Prairie Star
•Quest For Peace
•Saghann
•Shahwardi
•Tac de Boistron
•Why Not
French galloper Brigantin is out for the remainder of the spring after succumbing to a leg injury
Was set to run in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes on Saturday

[Sands]

Yep Cirrus Des Aigles nice run
Hong Kong Cup bound
Should do well based on that run behind Frankel

[rhino82]

Mount Athos Melbourne Cup bound after an easy win G3 Geoffrey Freer Stakes at Newbury on the weekend
As per trainer Luca Cumani the plan is for Mount Athos to go into quarantine for 2 weeks starting on Sep 12 then travel to Australia on Sep 27 or 28
Beaten in the cup but what a HUGE run

[jake]

yep..no luck again for luca cumani in the big one..will he be back for another crack ?

[grizzle]

yep..no luck again for luca cumani in the big one..will he be back for another crack ?
Would you believe they're calling it the "Cumani Curse"

[kiwiz]

Frankel will now head to stud
His stud fee is expected to be in the region of £100,000 which make his earning capacity around £10m a year
Make that 125,000 pounds!

[Sands]

Hope they don't wear him to a frazzle :)

[kiwiz]

Yep Cirrus Des Aigles nice run
Hong Kong Cup bound
Alcopop also confirmed as a runner in the $2.7 million Hong Kong Cup

[kiwiz]

Red Cadeaux,,Jakkalberry & Mount Athos all unplaced in the Japan Cup
3yo filly Gentildonna edged out boom horse Orfevre in a driving finish

[kiwiz]

Alcopop also confirmed as a runner in the $2.7 million Hong Kong Cup
And Manikato Stakes winner Sea Siren is set to run in the $1.85 million Hong Kong Sprint (1200m)

[kiwiz]

Dunaden will also be out to defend his Hong Kong Vase crown

[Sands]

Dunaden will also be out to defend his Hong Kong Vase crown

No. Horse Weight Trainer Jockey Barrier
1 Sea Moon 126 Sir M R Stoute R Moore 3
2 Dunaden 126 M Delzangles C Williams 2
3 Meandre 126 A Fabre M Guyon 10
4 Chinchon 126 Laffon-Parias O Doleuze 12
5 Joshua Tree 126 M Botti C Soumillon 6
6 Red Cadeaux 126 E A L Dunlop G Mosse 8
7 Dandino 126 J R Fanshawe J Crowley 9
8 Jaguar Mail 126 N Hori D Whyte 4
9 Liberator 126 D E Ferraris W C Marwing 7
10 Scarlet Camellia 126 C S Shum Z Purton 13
11 Dancing Rain 122 W J Haggas J Murtagh 5
12 Pagera 122 H-A Pantall O Peslier 11
13 Bayrir 121 de Royer-Dupre C Lemaire 1

[Sands]

And Manikato Stakes winner Sea Siren is set to run in the $1.85 million Hong Kong Sprint (1200m)

No. Horse Weight Trainer Jockey Barrier
1 Lucky Nine 126 C Fownes B Prebble 12
2 Super Easy 126 M J Freedman J Moreira 10
3 Joy And Fun 126 D Cruz G Mosse 1
4 Lord Kanaloa 126 T Yasuda Y Iwata 6
5 Admiration 126 J Moore N Callan 9
6 Leading City 126 J Moore M Chadwick 4
7 Time After Time 126 J Moore D Whyte 3
8 Captain Sweet 126 J Moore J McDonald 2
9 Cerise Cherry 126 D Cruz R Fourie 5
10 Flying Blue 126 D Cruz U Rispoli 11
11 Sea Siren 122 J O'Shea J Cassidy 7
12 Curren Chan 122 T Yasuda K Ikezoe 8

[Sands]

Alcopop also confirmed as a runner in the $2.7 million Hong Kong Cup

No. Horse Weight Trainer Jockey Barrier
1 Cirrus Des Aigles 126 Mme C Barande Barbe O Peslier 5
2 California Memory 126 A S Cruz M Chadwick 1
3 Carlton House 126 Sir M R Stoute R Moore 2
4 Alcopop 126 J Stephens C Williams 4
5 Sweet Orange 126 D E Ferraris W C Marwing 10
6 Irian 126 J Moore G Mosse 7
7 Zaidan 126 J Moore J McDonald 10
8 Dan Excel 126 J Moore N Callan 8
9 Military Attack 126 J Moore B Prebble 11
10 Saonois 123 J-P Gauvin A Hamelin 6
11 Feuerblitz 123 M Figge M Guyon 5
12 Autumn Gold 123 S Woods D Whyte 3
13 Giofra 122 de Royer-Dupre C Soumillon 9

[kiwiz]

Yep Cirrus Des Aigles nice run
Hong Kong Cup bound
That's a shame,,scratched!

[jake]

..recovering from a tendon injury

[kiwiz]

Alcopop also confirmed as a runner in the $2.7 million Hong Kong Cup
Terrific effort to get 3rd

[kiwiz]

And Manikato Stakes winner Sea Siren is set to run in the $1.85 million Hong Kong Sprint (1200m)
Ran 9th,,both trainer & jockey mystified by the disappointing performance

[MyHatMyCoat]

Dunaden will also be out to defend his Hong Kong Vase crown

Dunaden fails, Red Cadeaux prevails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXS6Ena_Tg4

[kiwiz]

Ran 9th,,both trainer & jockey mystified by the disappointing performance
Seems that Sea Siren pulled up with a few bruises, cuts & abrasions & a black eye,,so some excuses you would think
Now in quarantine before returning to be prepared for the TJ Smith Stakes during the Sydney autumn carnival

[kiwiz]

Dunaden fails, Red Cadeaux prevails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXS6Ena_Tg4
Would you believe it was Red Cadeaux first Group One win,,a change of luck & well deserved!

[kiwiz]

Singapore galloper Mr Big has added another big race win to his list with an easy victory in the RM1 million Magic Millions Malaysian Classic
Mr Big cost just $21,000 from the Yarraman Park Stud Magic Millions Gold Coast Yearling Sale
He is yet to miss a place in his 19 starts,,10 wins & 9 placings,,& has earned over S$1.5 million during his star studded career to date

[jake]

..bargain buy would be an understatement

[Sands]

Half brother coming up for sale

[Rogan Josh]

What sale is that Sands?

[Rogan Josh]

Dunaden fails, Red Cadeaux prevails

Is Dunaden racing on or retiring, anyone know?

[jake]

Half brother coming up for sale
..sure to get a lot more than $21K

[Sands]

What sale is that Sands?
Upcoming Gold Coast Yearling Sale

[Rogan Josh]

Okay, thanks Sands :)

[kiwiz]

I see that Lloyd Williams has purchased high quality UK stayer Sea Moon
Could be an Australian Cup starter & possibly the Caulfield Cup
Sea Moon won the Group II Harwicke Stakes (2400m) at Royal Ascot in June 2012 beating both Dunaden & Red Cadeaux

[jimbob]

seems to be happening more often now https://imageshackau.com/sports/131/b/happy.gifhttps://imageshackau.com/sports/133/b/happy.gifhttps://imageshackau.com/sports/138/b/happy.gif
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[grizzle]

Yep! Takes money to make money

[MyHatMyCoat]

Great news that former sandgroper Hay List & superstar Black Caviar are the world's top-rated sprinters for 2012, male & female, on grass.

Frankel was rated clearly the best world thoroughbred for 2012.

[grizzle]

I see So You Think also made the top10 2012 World Rankings

[jake]

Great news that former sandgroper Hay List & superstar Black Caviar are the world's top-rated sprinters for 2012, male & female, on grass.
..and both back in work..

[kiwiz]

Nominations for the Dubai World Cup night have been released
Inclusions:
Ortensia, Mic Mac, Soft Sand & Happy Trails from Oz
Ocean Park & Petergabriel from NZ
Mental, Kidnapped, Induna, Free Wheeling, Pied a Terre, Adroitly & Starspangledbanner, all formerly from Oz
Dunaden & Red Cadeaux also among the nominations

[kiwiz]

Ocean Park & Petergabriel from NZ

Ocean Park at this stage heading to England for the Royal Ascot carnival after the Dubai Duty Free

[kiwiz]

Nominations for the Dubai World Cup night have been released
Inclusions:
Mental, Kidnapped, Induna, Free Wheeling, Pied a Terre, Adroitly & Starspangledbanner, all formerly from Oz

Mental made a winning debut in Dubai on Thursday in the Group III Al Shindagha Sprint (1200m)

Great effort,,see replay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQMTXhrHblQ&feature=player_embedded

[MyHatMyCoat]

Was a top effort, liked the way he finished off. Didn’t have the blinkers on for the race, from what I read. New trainer Mahmood Al Zarooni will re-equip blinkers for Mental's next start, the Group 1 Golden Shaheen (1200m) held during Dubai’s World Cup meeting on March 30.

[kiwiz]

Ocean Park at this stage heading to England for the Royal Ascot carnival after the Dubai Duty Free
Pulled up ok after resuming Saturday at Otaki,,scheduled to leave NZ March 17th for Dubai

[kiwiz]

Nominations for the Dubai World Cup night have been released
Inclusions:
Ortensia, Mic Mac, Soft Sand & Happy Trails from Oz
Ocean Park & Petergabriel from NZ
Mental, Kidnapped, Induna, Free Wheeling, Pied a Terre, Adroitly & Starspangledbanner, all formerly from Oz
Dunaden & Red Cadeaux also among the nominations
Must be some doubt about Ortensia's trip to Dubai after that mare copping a battering in the Oakleigh Plate when unplaced

[kiwiz]

Must be some doubt about Ortensia's trip to Dubai after that mare copping a battering in the Oakleigh Plate when unplaced
Not going well at all this campaign,,2nd-last yesterday in the Newmarket beaten 10lens

[kiwiz]

Good & bad news for Australian-owned international Jakkalberry
Made a successful return to racing recently winning at Dubai but displayed swelling in a foreleg when inspected on the morning after the race
Will now miss the Dubai Gold Cup end of this month & possibly the Melbourne Cup

[kiwiz]

Kiwis bred horse did pretty well at Sha Tin,,Hong Kong the other night
They won 7 of the 10 races:
R1 Multivictory
R2 Hypersonic
R4 Really the Best
R5 Sea Dragon
R6 Ambassadorship
R7 Why Not
R8 Gurus Dream

Go the kiwis!

[kiwiz]

Ocean Park at this stage heading to England for the Royal Ascot carnival after the Dubai Duty Free
Ocean Park heading home to spell after flopping badly at Dubai
The travel to Dubai showed up in his lack of energy in the whole race,,he raced 10 kilos under his last winning weight
Ocean Park will either return to Australia in the spring for another Cox Plate or he will go to stud
Decision to be made later

[grizzle]

Just read that Tommy Berry is off to Honkers following the Sydney Carnival
Doing well current Sydney jockeys' premiership but Tommy believes the chance to ride in Hong Kong is too good an opportunity to pass up
Three-month stint, all the best Tommy!

[grizzle]

Ocean Park heading home to spell after flopping badly at Dubai
The travel to Dubai showed up in his lack of energy in the whole race,,he raced 10 kilos under his last winning weight
Ocean Park will either return to Australia in the spring for another Cox Plate or he will go to stud
Decision to be made later
Also sustained an injury in the race, from what I hear

[MyHatMyCoat]

Off to stud!

[kiwiz]

Also sustained an injury in the race, from what I hear
Injured a tendon

[kiwiz]

Off to stud!
Waikato Stud (Matamata)

[kiwiz]

Ocean Park will stand his first season at stud for a fee of $NZ30,000 plus GST

[kiwiz]

Just read that Tommy Berry is off to Honkers following the Sydney Carnival
Doing well current Sydney jockeys' premiership but Tommy believes the chance to ride in Hong Kong is too good an opportunity to pass up
Three-month stint, all the best Tommy!
Tommy Berry already on the board in Hong Kong,,won the Group I QE II Cup aboard the John Moore-trained Military Attack

[kiwiz]

And Corey Brown made the perfect start to his 2-month stint in Singapore getting a winner with his first ride at Kranji

[jake]

And Corey Brown made the perfect start to his 2-month stint in Singapore getting a winner with his first ride at Kranji
..corey brown & mr big..good chance in the krisflyer on sunday..

[Sands]

..corey brown & mr big..good chance in the krisflyer on sunday..
Currently good ew odds, jake


No Horse Win Place
1 Bel Sprinter 3.50 1.40
3 Super Easy 4.60 1.60
2 Lucky Nine 5.50 1.90
6 Kavanagh 6.50 2.10
8 Dasher Go Go 9.50 2.65
7 Mr Big 10.00 2.80
5 Dux Scholar 13.00 3.40
4 Balmont Mast 26.00 5.80
11 Speedy Cat 31.00 7.00
9 Goal Keeper 51.00 9.50
10 Emerald Hill 81.00 17.00

[Sands]

Tommy Berry already on the board in Hong Kong,,won the Group I QE II Cup aboard the John Moore-trained Military Attack
Another Group winner to Tommy Berry, the Group 3 Sha Tin Vase, last weekend.

[kiwiz]

And Corey Brown made the perfect start to his 2-month stint in Singapore getting a winner with his first ride at Kranji
And Kiwi jockey James McDonald notched the first winner of his UK stint at Leicester on Monday

[Sands]

And Corey Brown made the perfect start to his 2-month stint in Singapore getting a winner with his first ride at Kranji
Winning treble last Sunday.

[kiwiz]

I think he did a treble the previous meeting as well

[JB1]

Big meet Royal Ascot tonight

R1 Queen Anne Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 1) (4YO plus) Winner £198,485

Kentucky Derby winner & recent Dubai World Cup winner, (2) Animal Kingdom the one they have to beat . (13) Elusive Kate looks well weighted & is a dual Group 1 winner over 1m. (11) Trade Storm ran a nice race in the Dubai Duty Free. (6) Gregorian & (1) Aljamaaheer both capable on their day. (4) Declaration Of War has shown potential but was disappointing at his last start. Any rain around would bring (9) Penitent into calculations.

[JB1]

R2 King's Stand Stakes (British Champions Series & Global Sprint Challenge) (Group 1) (3YO plus) Winner £198,485 (19 starters)

(11) Shea Shea & (18) Reckless Abandon look the main hopes. Then we have the Aussie (10) Shamexpress, (15) Swiss Spirit unlucky last start, (5) Kingsgate Native back in form, the promising (8) Pearl Secret first-up, & the speedy (12) Sole Power.

[JB1]

R3 St James's Palace Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 1) (3YO only) Winner £198,485

The trio (1) Dawn Approach (6) Magician (9) Toronado, should fight it out. (2) Dundonnell & (4) Glory Awaits, perhaps the best of the remainder.

[Lord Greystoke]

Dawn A the shoe-in, Tornado the value?

LG

[JB1]

R4 Coventry Stakes (Group 2) (2YO only) Winner £68,052 15 starters

Most likely won't have a bet in this, 2yo's with not a lot of form. (12) Stubbs, (14) Thunder Strike, (11) Sir John Hawkins, (2) Championship, (8) Riverboat Springs & (16) War Command, all fancied.

(7) Parbold, (15) Wahaab & (3) Dubawi Fun, other debut winners.

[JB1]

R5 Ascot Stakes (Handicap) (4YO plus) Winner £37,350 19 starters

(7) Tiger Cliff, (11) Mubaraza, (10) Big Easy & (9) Justification all fancied. Others with hope, (19) Lieutenant Miller, (2) Well Sharp, (15) Homeric, (5) Suraj, (14) Mawaqeet, (1) Blue Bajan & (6) Midnight Oil. Tough race imo.

[Sands]

Thanks for your input JB1, cheers

[Sands]

Testing a new rating system

R2 Royal Ascot Tonight

No. Horse Rated Odds
1 Alive Alive Oh 9/4
8 Just Pretending 4/1
12 Winsili 13/2
9 Riposte 8/1
3 Elik 9/1
11 Waila 12/1
7 Indigo Lady 25/1
2 Cocktail Queen 33/1
4 Fersah 33/1
5 Gertrude Versed 33/1
6 Hollowina 66/1

[Sands]

R5 Royal Ascot Tonight

No. Horse Rated Odds
10 Shikarpour 11/4
1 Chopin 5/1
8 Remote 5/1
6 Indian Chief 6/1
11 Van Der Neer 7/1
3 Elkaayed 8/1
9 Secret Number 12/1
12 Windhoek 14/1
4 Hoarding 20/1
7 Kitten On The Run 30/1
5 Ideal 50/1
2 Centurius 50/1

[Sands]

Further testing, new rating system

R2 Royal Ascot Tonight

No. Horse Rated Odds
4 Mount Athos 11/4
3 Ektihaam 5/2
9 Universal 8/1
2 Dandino 9/1
6 Sir John Hawkwood 9/1
1 Aiken 10/1
8 Thomas Chippendale 11/1
5 Noble Mission 12/1
7 Songcraft 25/1

[Sands]

R3 Royal Ascot Tonight

No. Horse Rated Odds
3 Gordon Lord Byron 4/1
12 Society Rock 9/2
16 Sea Siren 7/1
13 Soul 10/1
6 Krypton Factor 12/1
5 Hawkeyethenoo 12/1
8 Maarek 14/1
15 Mince 14/1
11 Slade Power 16/1
1 Dandy Boy 16/1
18 Rosdhu Queen 18/1
17 Zanetto 25/1
7 Lethal Force 25/1
9 Reply 33/1
4 Havelock 33/1
2 Gammarth 50/1
10 Sirius Prospect 66/1
14 Intense Pink 100/1

[Sands]

Testing a new rating system

R2 Royal Ascot Tonight

No. Horse Rated Odds
1 Alive Alive Oh 9/4-Scratched
8 Just Pretending 4/1
12 Winsili 13/2
9 Riposte 8/1
3 Elik 9/1
11 Waila 12/1
7 Indigo Lady 25/1
2 Cocktail Queen 33/1-Scratched
4 Fersah 33/1
5 Gertrude Versed 33/1
6 Hollowina 66/1


Results: 9,8,3,12
Scr: 1,2,10

[Rogan Josh]

Tommy Berry already on the board in Hong Kong,,won the Group I QE II Cup aboard the John Moore-trained Military Attack
10-day suspension in Honkers, to resume his Oz career after his suspension ends July 20th

[kiwiz]

On the subject of Hong Kong,,the Hong Kong public has voted Black Caviar as the Most Admired Overseas Horse ahead of British superstar Frankel
The Champ polled 53% of the votes whilst Frankel polled 16.5%

[kiwiz]

Still in Hong Kong,,Douglas Whyte won the award of Most Popular Jockey ahead of Brett Prebble

[kiwiz]

And on the subject of Douglas Whyte,,Whyte has just claimed his 13th successive Hong Kong Jockey's title,,not bad eh!

[kiwiz]

And on the subject of Douglas Whyte,,Whyte has just claimed his 13th successive Hong Kong Jockey's title,,not bad eh!
Zac Purton 2nd & Brett Prebble 5th

[JB1]

Should be an interesting next-season, Whyte & Purton not exactly the best of mates

[Sands]

And on the subject of Douglas Whyte,,Whyte has just claimed his 13th successive Hong Kong Jockey's title,,not bad eh!
13 straight (on the flat) must be close to a world best
From memory Britain's Tony McCoy won 18 straight jumps titles

[kiwiz]

I see So You Think also made the top10 2012 World Rankings
So You Think is a dad!
His first foal born yesterday at Bell View Park (Oz)
The colt is out of the Al Maher mare Soft Landing

[kiwiz]

Great news that former sandgroper Hay List & superstar Black Caviar are the world's top-rated sprinters for 2012, male & female, on grass.

Frankel was rated clearly the best world thoroughbred for 2012.
It's official,,Black Caviar will make her debut in the breeding barn later this year with Exceed And Excel

[kiwiz]

Thursday's Goodwood Cup (UK - 3200m) winner Brown Panther now being set for this years Melbourne Cup

[MyHatMyCoat]

Thursday's Goodwood Cup (UK - 3200m) winner Brown Panther now being set for this years Melbourne Cup
Looks a nice type, did it easy in the Goodwood. Connections thought about the Cup last year but that didn't eventuate. By reports they a more serious this year.

[Sands]

Thursday's Goodwood Cup (UK - 3200m) winner Brown Panther now being set for this years Melbourne Cup
Just read that there has been a number of offers made on behalf of Oz buyers over the past 18 months, for this horse, but have been knocked back
Others obviously aware of Brown Panther's potential

[Sands]

G1 Irish St Leger next target for Brown Panther

[Sands]

Does well, the Melbourne Cup next

[kiwiz]

G1 Irish St Leger next target for Brown Panther
Been a while since a horse has done the double (won the Irish St Leger & Melbourne Cup)
Last time Vintage Crop back in 1993 (I think)

[jimmyz]

Last time Vintage Crop back in 1993 (I think)
I think you might be right kiwiz

[jimmyz]

The Irish St Leger winner was exempt from the Melbourne Cup ballot.

[jimmyz]

Not sure if that's the case anymore.

[MyHatMyCoat]

The Irish St Leger winner was exempt from the Melbourne Cup ballot.
No longer exempt.

[Rogan Josh]

The Irish St Leger was exempt until this year. The VRC made the change back in March.

[jimmyz]

Roger that! Thanks guys.

[Rogan Josh]

The Irish St Leger was exempt until this year. The VRC made the change back in March.
Don't know why, seemed like a good idea to attract the better class o/s horse

[kiwiz]

I see he is 3rd on the line in betting now, no surprise really, Americain & Dunaden both bottler Caulfield Cup runs
Americain is back in Oz
Arrived last week after covering his first northern hemisphere book at Calumet Farm in Kentucky USA
Now standing at Swettenham Stud

[grizzle]

Stud fee reasonable as well, so I've heard

[grizzle]

Will he or won't he be heading down under?

[kiwiz]

Happy to wait & see
Don't want to lose my money (all-in) if he doesn't show down-under

[kiwiz]

Should be an interesting next-season, Whyte & Purton not exactly the best of mates
Purton starts Hong Kong season with a double,,Whyte just the one winner

[jimmyz]

Solid following for both hoops which normally means better odds for other well credentialed horses, when either or both are riding less fancied runners in the race.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Purton starts Hong Kong season with a double,,Whyte just the one winner
Didn't take Whyte long to get back in the lead.

[kiwiz]

G1 Irish St Leger next target for Brown Panther
Didn't run
Plan scrapped after Brown Panther developed an elevated temperature leading up to the St Leger
Melbourne Cup ??

[jake]

..i think it may be a case of wait & see

[Sands]

Didn't run
Plan scrapped after Brown Panther developed an elevated temperature leading up to the St Leger
Melbourne Cup ??
Voleuse De Coeurs won the Irish St. Leger by 6 lengths
Drops from 61 kg to 54kg if it comes down for our Cup

[jake]

Didn't run
Plan scrapped after Brown Panther developed an elevated temperature leading up to the St Leger
Melbourne Cup ??
..back on track for the cup..so i believe

[Sands]

The first shipment of international runners have arrived in Australia
We have a casualty already, with UK galloper Forgotten Voice requiring treatment for travel sickness
However the stayer is expected to be fit to compete during the spring carnival

[grizzle]

Voleuse De Coeurs won the Irish St. Leger by 6 lengths
Drops from 61 kg to 54kg if it comes down for our Cup
Voleuse De Coeurs is on her way! Will be in the care of Flemington-based trainer Mike Moroney.

[Rogan Josh]

Change of ownership caused a re-think

[rhino82]

Bought for a reputed $1.5 million!

[Sands]

$3.6 million in return, if they win the Cup

[JB1]

Big gamble but I suppose that's what it's all about!

[grizzle]

Anyone know of a site that provides detail on how the overseas horses are progressing since arriving in quarantine ?

[grizzle]

Or have any of that type of news they can pass on ? Thanks

[Sands]

Dunaden & stablemate Havana Gold arrived at Werribee on Saturday, did trackwork on Sunday

[Rogan Josh]

Godolphin’s Royal Empire arrived yesterday. Recent form good but hasn't gone further than 2700m.

[Rogan Josh]

Red Cadeaux has arrived. Lost 7 kilos on the flight, slight concern.

[kiwiz]

Mount Athos, Verema, Brown Panther, Voleuse de Coeurs & Tres Blue have all arrived safely at Werribee

[Sands]

Dandino & Simenon both working well

[kiwiz]

Dandino & Simenon both working well
Both good chances in the Big One imo

[Sands]

Red Cadeaux has arrived. Lost 7 kilos on the flight, slight concern.
Didn't do him any harm RJ

[kiwiz]

Dandino & Simenon both working well

Both good chances in the Big One imo

Weren't disgraced (4th & 5th)

[grizzle]

Sandown Cup shortly. Interesting to see what Melbourne Cup starters back-up. If any.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Sandown Cup shortly. Interesting to see what Melbourne Cup starters back-up. If any.
None.

[kiwiz]

Oz jockeys Tommy Berry,,Glen Boss,,Craig Newitt & Dean Yendall have been granted a one-day Club’s Licence to ride at the Singapore Gold Cup meeting tomorrow
NZ trainer Laurie Laxon has 3 runners in the Cup,,Dujardin,,Orakei Korako & NZ-bred stayer Martin

[MyHatMyCoat]

Thursday's Goodwood Cup (UK - 3200m) winner Brown Panther now being set for this years Melbourne Cup
Another shot next year, perhaps?

[grizzle]

Voleuse De Coeurs is on her way! Will be in the care of Flemington-based trainer Mike Moroney.
Autumn campaign down-under & then another go at the Cup, according to Paul Moroney. Bit under $1.5 million still to recoup!

[kumite]

Dunaden a good 5th in yesterdays Japan Cup
Red Cadeaux, Mount Athos & Dandino likely starters Hong Kong Vase Dec 8th

[kiwiz]

Looks like Dunaden to start in the Hong Kong Vase as well

[kiwiz]

Purton starts Hong Kong season with a double,,Whyte just the one winner
Zac Purton has been flying,,now 42 wins,,leads Whyte (equal 2nd) by 22 wins

[kiwiz]

Early betting - 2013 Hong Kong Vase

1 Red Cadeaux $8
2 Dunaden $13
3 Dominant $101
4 Feuerblitz $26
5 Mount Athos $7.50
6 Seismos $21
7 Dandino $10
8 Simenon $17
9 Asuka Kurichan $41
10 Liberator $101
11 The Fugue $2.90
12 Nymphea $67
13 Galileo Rock $14
14 Ebiyza $16

[kiwiz]

Zac Purton has been flying,,now 42 wins,,leads Whyte (equal 2nd) by 22 wins
Early betting - 2013 Hong Kong Vase

1 Red Cadeaux $8
2 Dunaden $13
3 Dominant $101
4 Feuerblitz $26
5 Mount Athos $7.50
6 Seismos $21
7 Dandino $10
8 Simenon $17
9 Asuka Kurichan $41
10 Liberator $101
11 The Fugue $2.90
12 Nymphea $67
13 Galileo Rock $14
14 Ebiyza $16
And the winner,,Zac Purton on Dominant (SP 50/1) !
How cool's that!!

[kiwiz]

Dunaden a good 5th in yesterdays Japan Cup
Red Cadeaux, Mount Athos & Dandino likely starters Hong Kong Vase Dec 8th

Looks like Dunaden to start in the Hong Kong Vase as well


Dunaden 3rd,, Red Cadeaux 4th & Mount Athos 9th
Dandino was scratched (minor injury)

[Rogan Josh]

And the winner,,Zac Purton on Dominant (SP 50/1) !
How cool's that!!
Really cool if you were on :(

[kiwiz]

Really cool if you were on :(
Yep ;)

[grizzle]

Zac Purton has been flying,,now 42 wins,,leads Whyte (equal 2nd) by 22 wins
Zac maintaining that buffer
Zac Purton 52 wins, Douglas Whyte 30 wins, as at 05/01/2014

[grizzle]

Zac maintaining that buffer
Zac Purton 52 wins, Douglas Whyte 30 wins, as at 05/01/2014
Zac has increased his lead
Zac Purton 55 wins, Douglas Whyte & Tye Angland 32 wins, as at 15/01/2014

[kiwiz]

Must admit not a Dettori fan but Frankie is back,,made a successful comeback from injury with a double at his first meeting back at Lingfield

[grizzle]

Zac has increased his lead
Zac Purton 55 wins, Douglas Whyte & Tye Angland 32 wins, as at 15/01/2014
Zac 57 wins, Whyte 37 wins, big mover Joao Moreira into 2nd position with 48 wins, as at 08/02/2014

[MyHatMyCoat]

Boy, it has been a big move by Joao Moreira!

[kiwiz]

Connections of import Fiorente are considering a return to England in June
Royal Ascot G1s Prince of Wales Stakes or Ascot Gold Cup could be on Fiorente agenda

[grizzle]

Zac 57 wins, Whyte 37 wins, big mover Joao Moreira into 2nd position with 48 wins, as at 08/02/2014
Zac 63 wins, Moreira 55 wins, Whyte 42 wins, as at 01/03/2014

[kiwiz]

2013 Stradbroke Handicap winner Linton looks set to make his debut for UK based trained Marco Botti this Saturday at Meydan in Dubai
2013 Mackinnon Stakes winner Side Glance has also been nominated for this meeting

[Rogan Josh]

Zac 63 wins, Moreira 55 wins, Whyte 42 wins, as at 01/03/2014
So what's the oil Joao Moreira, can't say I've heard of him prior to this thread !?

[kiwiz]

Connections of import Fiorente are considering a return to England in June
Royal Ascot G1s Prince of Wales Stakes or Ascot Gold Cup could be on Fiorente agenda
Sounds like Gai is really keen on this idea

[jimmyz]

So what's the oil Joao Moreira, can't say I've heard of him prior to this thread !?
South American hoop. Rode 8 winners from 8 rides (9 event card) in Singapore last year, so must have above average ability.

[grizzle]

South American hoop. Rode 8 winners from 8 rides (9 event card) in Singapore last year, so must have above average ability.
Originally from Brazil I think. Might even do a stint down under in a season or two.

[Sands]

A treble to Moreira today so far, still 4 races to go!

[grizzle]

A treble to Moreira today so far, still 4 races to go!
Thought his ride on hotpot Super Abundante a bit ordinary

[Sands]

Thought his ride on hotpot Super Abundante a bit ordinary
Wish I was on the winner of that race. Master Aetius, $50+ W $10+ P!

[Sands]

Zac 63 wins, Moreira 55 wins, Whyte 42 wins, as at 01/03/2014
Zac's back! Rosehill today.

[rhino82]

A treble to Moreira today so far, still 4 races to go!
Watched him riding at Meydan on the weekend
Like his style!

[grizzle]

Originally from Brazil I think. Might even do a stint down under in a season or two.
Joao Moreira has gained a release from the Hong Kong Jockey Club to ride in Sydney next weekend

[grizzle]

Joao Moreira has gained a release from the Hong Kong Jockey Club to ride in Sydney next weekend
5 rides, didn't get amongst it

[grizzle]

Zac's back! Rosehill today.
Just the 2 rides today, won the Doncaster Mile on Sacred Falls

[grizzle]

5 rides, didn't get amongst it
Wonder if Joao will be around for next weekend's Sydney carnival

[Sands]

Wonder if Joao will be around for next weekend's Sydney carnival
Doesn't look like it

[grizzle]

Zac 63 wins, Moreira 55 wins, Whyte 42 wins, as at 01/03/2014
Zac 82 wins, Moreira 73 wins, Whyte 64 wins, as at 21/04/2014

[kumite]

Whyte won the war today
& a double to Tommy Berry
great start to his Hong Kong campaign

[kiwiz]

Didn't run
Plan scrapped after Brown Panther developed an elevated temperature leading up to the St Leger
Melbourne Cup ??
Brown Panther back in winning form,,won the Group III Ormonde Stakes (13F) at Chester,,England on Friday

[kiwiz]

& a double to Tommy Berry
great start to his Hong Kong campaign
Great start indeed kumite
And since then Tommy has celebrated an emotional win in Singapore's biggest race (the $3 million Singapore Airlines International Cup) aboard the John Moore-trained Dan Excel
He dedicated the win to his late twin brother Nathan

[Sands]

Aussie hoops had a field-day at that Singapore meeting

[kiwiz]

Aussie hoops had a field-day at that Singapore meeting
Not going too bad so far today at Honkers
R1 T Berry
R2 B Prebble
R3 Z Purton

[kiwiz]

Not going too bad so far today at Honkers
R1 T Berry
R2 B Prebble
R3 Z Purton
R6 Z Purton
R7 T Berry
R9 Z Purton
R10 Z Purton

[grizzle]

And a double for irish jock Neil Callan at the same meet

[grizzle]

Zac 82 wins, Moreira 73 wins, Whyte 64 wins, as at 21/04/2014
Zac 100 wins, Moreira 85 wins, Whyte 80 wins, as at 1/6/2014

[kiwiz]

Where's Joao,,didn't have a ride Sunday?

[Sands]

Where's Joao,,didn't have a ride Sunday?
10 rides today at Sha Tin

[grizzle]

Queen Anne Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 1)

No. Horse WinOdds
8. Toronado $2
7. Soft Falling Rain $6
10. Verrazano $6.50
1. Anodin $11
9. Tullius $11
6. Side Glance $22
4. Mull Of Killough $33
5. Producer $40
3. Glory Awaits $60
2. Ansgar $70

[grizzle]

Prince Of Wales's Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 1)

No. Horse WinOdds
8. Treve $1.90
7. The Fugue $6
2. Magician $7
3. Mukhadram $8
6. Dank $12
4. Parish Hall $50
5. Zambucca $80
1. Elkaayed $90

[grizzle]

Norfolk Stakes (Group 2)

No. Horse WinOdds
8. The Great War $2
6. Mukhmal $3.50
2. Baitha Alga $7.50
9. To Be Determined $9
5. Mind Of Madness $15
7. Snap Shots $17
1. Ahlan Emarati $24
4. Mignolino $50
3. Fine Prince $66

[kiwiz]

Brown Panther back in winning form,,won the Group III Ormonde Stakes (13F) at Chester,,England on Friday
Won again a few weeks later,,Group III Henry II Stakes at Sandown,,England

[JB1]

Wasn't too hot his last start (4th)
Was up against a good one (Leading Light) but thought he would at least run a place :(

[kiwiz]

Brown Panther pulled-up ok
Showed up for a long way in the Gold Cup
Connections are already considering another tilt at the Melbourne Cup

[grizzle]

Zac 100 wins, Moreira 85 wins, Whyte 80 wins, as at 1/6/2014
Zac 111 wins, Moreira 96 wins, Whyte 86 wins, as at 1/7/2014

[kiwiz]

Zac 111 wins, Moreira 96 wins, Whyte 86 wins, as at 1/7/2014
Any idea the kind of prize-money these guys have been earning ?

[grizzle]

Zac 111 wins, Moreira 96 wins, Whyte 86 wins, as at 1/7/2014
Hong Kong - Final Results 2013 / 2014 Season

Zac 112 wins, Moreira 97 wins, Whyte 88 wins

[grizzle]

Any idea the kind of prize-money these guys have been earning ?
Stakes Won 2013 / 2014 Season

Zac 101,465,937.50 HKD, Moreira 99,347,312.50 HKD, Whyte 106,348,525.00 HKD

1 AUD is around 7.2762 HKD

[grizzle]

Stakes Won 2013 / 2014 Season

Zac 101,465,937.50 HKD, Moreira 99,347,312.50 HKD, Whyte 106,348,525.00 HKD

1 AUD is around 7.2762 HKD
That's the total prize-money earned, not just the hoop's slice

[rhino82]

Hong Kong - Final Results 2013 / 2014 Season

Zac 112 wins
Top effort when you think about it. Just 33 of his 112 tally riding for leading trainers. Well done Zac!

[kiwiz]

Dunaden,,winner of the 2011 Melbourne Cup,,has been retired after sustaining an injury in training
The 8yo earned more than £5 million prizemoney

[kiwiz]

Top effort when you think about it. Just 33 of his 112 tally riding for leading trainers. Well done Zac!
Bad luck Zac with his off-season stint in Japan
After aggravating a heel injury will be going home early to seek specialist treatment

[kiwiz]

Brown Panther pulled-up ok
Showed up for a long way in the Gold Cup
Connections are already considering another tilt at the Melbourne Cup
Since has run a good 2nd Group II Prix Maurice de Nieuil (2800m) at Longchamp

[grizzle]

Bad luck Zac with his off-season stint in Japan
After aggravating a heel injury will be going home early to seek specialist treatment
Looking to return in time for the new Hong Kong season commencing Sep 14th

[Sands]

I think Zac's injury is worse than first thought
His return to the saddle may take a bit longer

[kiwiz]

I think Zac's injury is worse than first thought
His return to the saddle may take a bit longer
Lets hope for a speedy recovery

[kiwiz]

Brown Panther pulled-up ok
Showed up for a long way in the Gold Cup
Connections are already considering another tilt at the Melbourne Cup
Nominated for the Caulfield Cup,,so that's a good sign

[kiwiz]

Frankel is a Dad
Mum,,More Joyous,,pretty happy too

[kiwiz]

More Strawberries was also served by Frankel and is due to foal in Australia shortly