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Sportz
6th October 2009, 06:04 PM
CAULFIELD GUINEAS (1600m)
1 DENMAN - Peter Snowden / Kerrin McEvoy 7 55.5
2 MANHATTAN RAIN - Gai Waterhouse / Blake Shinn 6 55.5
3 TICKETS - Peter G Moody / Steven Arnold 8 55.5
4 CARRARA - Tony Vasil / Corey Brown 2 55.5
5 STARSPANGLEDBANNER - Leon Corstens / Danny Nikolic 1 55.5
6 TRUSTING - John P Thompson / Craig Williams 10 55.5
7 SO YOU THINK - Bart Cummings / Michael Rodd 11 55.5
8 EXTRA ZERO - David Hayes / Nash Rawiller 5 55.5
9 NICASTRO - Jarrod McLean / Dwayne Dunn 9 55.5
10 RIVER'S LANE - David Balfour / Nicholas Hall 3 55.5
11 ECLAIR FASTPASS - Robbie Laing / Craig Newitt 4 55.5

luv2bet
6th October 2009, 06:59 PM
I seriously cant wait for this race, best field for a number of years for sure. I really like trusting here, barrier wont bother it will go back anyway. Cant say the same for denman drawing 7, big concern with kerrin mcavoid riding it.

Stix
7th October 2009, 09:36 PM
7 of last 8 winners have stepped up 200m in distance - only whobegotyou raced same distance prior start
6 of last 8 winners have placed at prior start - 3 winners,2 seconds,1 3rd
5 of 8 retainer the same jockey from last start
3 of 8 that have changed the jockey have paid $20 (in Top Swing), $56 (Econsol), $31 (Wonderfule world)
3 of 8 had run at track last start
6 have carried 55.5, other 2 carried 54
All have > 45% Place Strike rate - 5 >75% 3 45-74%
5 of 8 have been in top 3 in betting
4 have last start 13-15 days, 3 20-21 days, 1 28 days
7 of 8 winners have carried same weight or less than last start. 1 winner carried 1.5kg greater than last start (Wonderful World)
7 of 8 are 4th or worse at 400m last start

Matilda
8th October 2009, 03:10 PM
Criteria 1 - drop Carrara, So You think, Extra Zero, River's Lane
Criteria 2 - drop Starspangledbanner, Eclair Fastpass
Criteria 3/6/10 - remaining horse all met
Criteria 11 - drop Denman, Manhattan Rain, Tickets, Nicastro

Well, only one left standing......Trusting.

So you Trust Stix.....Go Trusting....He met most of the criteria include he is 2nd favourite...

Reckless
8th October 2009, 09:29 PM
I also recollect that there is something favourable with inside barriers in the Guineas historically. Any stats on that ?. I think when Econsul won all in the first 3 came from barriers 1 to 4. Track was dead that day I think - huge trifecta that time.

Reckless
8th October 2009, 10:17 PM
This is the statistic -Since 1989, 12 winners have drawn barrier four or under. Barrier four has the best recent record with five wins, the most recent Econsul five years ago. Eclair Fastpass has barrier four on Saturday

Sportz
8th October 2009, 11:06 PM
I think there's usually a field of 14-16 though. This year it's only 11, so perhaps barriers not as important?

But yes, you're right. One year, all you had to do was box up the inside 4 barriers and you could have got a huge return.

Stix
9th October 2009, 09:47 AM
Winning Barriers...open to correction.

4 Skalato
10 Lonhro
7 Helenus
4 In Top Swing
4 Enconsul
12 God's Own
8 Wonderful World
2 Weekend Hussler
12 Whobegotyou

Sportz
9th October 2009, 10:38 AM
Yeah, Econsul and In Top Swing were the two years that inside barriers really dominated. Naturally, I started looking at the inside barriers AFTER that! :rolleyes:

crash
9th October 2009, 03:29 PM
Post deleted. Please add something positive when you make a post. Thanks. Moderator.

Sportz
10th October 2009, 04:08 PM
I also recollect that there is something favourable with inside barriers in the Guineas historically. Any stats on that ?. I think when Econsul won all in the first 3 came from barriers 1 to 4. Track was dead that day I think - huge trifecta that time.

Hmmm.

Inside barriers again.

Reckless
10th October 2009, 04:09 PM
1st and 2nd from barriers 1 & 2.

Reckless
10th October 2009, 04:11 PM
Could be to do with the rail being out 14m at the previous meeting then coming back to true. Do they do that every year. ?

Reckless
10th October 2009, 05:52 PM
the quinella paid $101 on IAS - did I back it - not a chance !!!!