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darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 09:58 AM
Cairns Cup
Race 8
1 - 2 - 3 -5 - 9 - 12 (Minimum $7
Care to have a crack Shaun.
Cheers
darky
Shaun
7th August 2011, 10:38 AM
2 Magnum Forty Four 38
5 Old Mates Act 30
9 Preacher Man 24
8 Juveniles 22
3 Cash Attack 20
Brosco
7th August 2011, 11:36 AM
Hope you don't mind me chiming :)
My ratings system came up with very similar:
9 Preacher Man 37
2 Magnum Forty Four 34
3 Cash Attack 33
5 Old Mates Act 31
7 Matiya's Pride 30
8 Juveniles 29
Good luck to all
Shaun
7th August 2011, 12:02 PM
Brosco, do you do any type of pricing for your ratings?
Brosco
7th August 2011, 12:49 PM
Brosco, do you do any type of pricing for your ratings?
I have tried but they haven't really come out very well.
I tried just adding up all the ratings numbers and then converting each individual rating to a percentage of the total to derive the price (working on 100%). Even my 'standouts' were expecting a dividend of $4 or so - so it wasn't very realistic.
It is something that I want to pursue, so if you have some ideas I would be happy to hear them.
Shaun
7th August 2011, 01:12 PM
I had the same issues but looking at your ratings they are similar values to mine so this might help you, a member of this forum, Thorns suggested this site http://www.racebase.co.nz/market.htm if you can understand the concept i think it will work for you, i am finding the pricing is very good as long as your ratings are sound.
Shaun
7th August 2011, 01:17 PM
Hey Darky, i hope my other races are rated as well as these 3 from Seymour i ran a test on but no cash down.
Race 1 Rated Price
11 Xaar Best 2.20
1 Cierpinski 6.23
10 Viminx 6.23
2 Dashing Benbara 8.64
3 Faldo 9.30
Race 2 Rated Price
4 Godspeed 2.87
2 Decircles 3.05
12 Primed For Action 7.31
3 Devilgate Drive 9.55
6 Nine Stories 12.19
Race 3 Rated Price
14 Rock Musician 2.26
10 Hurriyet 4.96
13 Sixteen Pelicans 4.96
12 Jolie Danzer 7.55
4 Grassini 47.66
Check out the results.
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 01:19 PM
The way I work is if their are 6 Chances I want a minimum $7.
Works well for me.
Good luck to all of us.
Cheers
darky
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 01:32 PM
Track condition change Shaun - from dead to slow.
I,ll stick with what I,ve put down BUT sure wont be betting this meeting.
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 01:41 PM
Will have a crack at Muswellbrook Race 6 (dead)
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 9 -10 - 12 (minimum $9)
If theres 3 left I,ll go trifecta /4 I,ll go ist 4.
As well as the win of course.
Shaun
7th August 2011, 02:11 PM
I have 2 race in Cairns and wet tracks not an issue but here are mine for the other race.
1 Sly Lu
3 Newton's Rings
2 Boomerang
4 Dealers
7 Lucidly
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 04:11 PM
I took 3 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 9 Won $12
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 04:12 PM
I took 2- 3 -4 - 5 - 10 -12 - 9 Won $12
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 04:18 PM
Forget the other post.
Shaun
7th August 2011, 04:27 PM
Check out my ratings post on Cairns race 7
I might have to look in to these first 4s
Brosco
7th August 2011, 05:05 PM
I had the same issues but looking at your ratings they are similar values to mine so this might help you, a member of this forum, Thorns suggested this site http://www.racebase.co.nz/market.htm if you can understand the concept i think it will work for you, i am finding the pricing is very good as long as your ratings are sound.
Thanks for that Shaun - on first reading it looks exactly what I have been searching for :)
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 05:06 PM
No luck for me shaun.
I took 1 - 3 - 9 - 12
Cheers
darky
Brosco
7th August 2011, 05:08 PM
I took 2- 3 -4 - 5 - 10 -12 - 9 Won $12
well done dd:)
I would have been happier if we had managed to throw the 11 in there somewhere:)
Shaun
7th August 2011, 05:08 PM
I had a bit on the winner and a small trifecta that lost
Shaun
7th August 2011, 05:13 PM
I need to learn to stick with the better class races, i would win more and lose less depending on the day i am having but no mater if i am having a good day if i am betting to many races i always lose.
Shaun
7th August 2011, 05:15 PM
Well last race for me in Kalgoorlie
6 Kalarena
4 Ain't No Saint
1 Oroya Gold
10 Two Strong Hearts
5 Walnut Creek
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 05:17 PM
No luck for me in the Cup.
I took 1 - 3 - 9 -12
Be worth combining our ratings on 1st 4,s shaun.
Shaun
7th August 2011, 05:20 PM
I will go to the TAB site later and use the calculator to work out the best option just boxing them would not work out the best idea.
Brosco
7th August 2011, 05:21 PM
I need to learn to stick with the better class races, i would win more and lose less depending on the day i am having but no mater if i am having a good day if i am betting to many races i always lose.
I know that feeling.
I like to have an 'interest' in most races even though I know they are bad betting races.
Also I use a small progressive recovery staking plan and part of my plan says that when there is only 6 races remaining, stop at any loss - regardless! But do I???
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 05:26 PM
Kalgoorlie Race 7
1 - 2 - 3 - 7
Cheers
darkydog2002
7th August 2011, 05:28 PM
Thanks for the kind words Broscoe.
Cheers
darky
Shaun
7th August 2011, 05:29 PM
same here i like to have some sort of interest in a race, even a few dollars on my top runners but if you don't win it can add up.
I was thinking about this the other day and was going to allocate 1 bet amount to these selections, say for example i am betting 3% of my current bank per race and i have selected 3 races for the say that would be 9% i would then have 3% to bet on other races i choose to be involved in.
Sounds strange and it could impact on my profits but no worse than it does now.
moeee
7th August 2011, 05:31 PM
I need to learn to stick with the better class races, i would win more and lose less depending on the day i am having but no mater if i am having a good day if i am betting to many races i always lose.
You don't need to learn that , it seems you already know it.
You need to apply it.
I also have problems betting for the sake of betting.
Mine is caused by me spending a large amount of time studying the Form for a Race and feel compelled to wager regardless of whether a betting opportunity exists or not.
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