Maiden Longshot System.

[TESTAROSSA]

Have been tinkering around with catching those maiden runners who pop up and win at good odds and have come up with (i think) a good plan on capturing some of these juicy winners.

These are the results since Tuesday 17th February (short sample i know, will be going back and checking results beyond that time when have enough time).

Feb17 Werribee R1 Lady Canny – 2nd, NPP
Feb17 Werribee R2 Charlie’s Legacy – UNP
Feb17 Werribee R2 Gone For Glory – UNP
Feb17 Townsville R4 Crystal Express – 3rd, $2.20
Feb18 Hawkesbury R1 Jonoble – 1st, $10.20, $2.30
Feb18 Mornington R2 Onus – 4th
Feb18 Doomben R1Starzami – 1st, $10.20, $2.10
Feb18 Strathalbyn R2 Bella Futura – 4th
Feb18 Strathalbyn R2 Disco Slacks – UNP
Feb18 Strathalbyn R7 Edison –1st, $28.60, $6.40
Feb18 Strathalbyn R7 Dendy Walk – UNP
Feb18 Pinjarra R2 Coded – 1st, $29.00, $5.80
Feb19 Canterbury R2 One Small Step – UNP
Feb19 Canterbury R2 Zamurd – UNP
Feb19 Benalla R2 Apples – UNP
Feb19 Benalla R2 Weeping Willow – UNP
Feb19 Benalla R3 Nina Belle – UNP
Feb19 Benalla R3 She’s Striking – 1st, $10.90, $3.10
Feb19 Benalla R3 La Speranza – UNP
Feb20 Yarra Glen R3 Bobbafet – 2nd, $12.50
Feb20 Rockhampton R5 Pegunny Jake – UNP
Feb20 Queanbeyan R1 Roxbury Hall – UNP
Feb20 Queanbeyan R4 Tract – UNP
Feb20 Queanbeyan R4 Meddling Magpie - UNP
Feb20 Quirindi R3 Broc's River – 1st, $8.30, $3.00
Feb21 Geelong R3 Longstone – UNP
Feb21 Gold Coast R4 Skinstad – UNP
Feb21 Kembla Grange R4 Blushing Maizy – 3rd, $11.10
Feb22 Kilmore R9 Little Darling – UNP
Feb22 Penshurst R2 Dreja – UNP
Feb22 Port Lincoln R8 Daring Echo – UNP
Feb22 Sunshine Coast R3 Monkeypicken – UNP
Feb22 Taree R3 Slashers Creek – 3rd, $1.60
Feb22 Taree R5 Sudan Silk - 3rd, $2.70
Feb22 Wyong R2 Champony – UNP
Feb22 Wyong R2 Neurology – UNP
Feb22 Wyong R2 Kaoru Square – UNP
Feb22 Wyong R5 Mr Brisvegas – UNP
Feb22 Wyong R5 Hello Cyrstal – 3rd, $4.40
Feb23 Scone R2 Brocanteur – 1st, $37.80, $5.20
Feb23 Scone R4 Tsear – UNP
Feb23 Kyneton R2 Red Car Express – UNP
Feb23 Kyneton R2 Vice Admiral – UNP

Selections – 43.
Winners – 7.
Placings – 14.
Return - $136.00.
Profit - $93.00.
P.O.T – 215%.

So far so good.

Cheers.


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[TESTAROSSA]

Tuesday Selections:

Back only if $8.00 or longer!!!!

Bathurst.

R1 (13) Star Of Fashion

Pakenham.

R3 (3) Amtrak

Townsville.

R3 (4) Who Dares Wins

Cheers.

[sportznut]

Testarossa,

Without actually giving away all the rules, what are the basics of the plan??? :smile:

[TESTAROSSA]

Hi Sportz,

The system is very simple really, so giving away the basic rules would give away the system, which i don't want to do at this stage, i will just say that all selections are either 1st up or 2nd up :smile:

Cheers.

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[sportznut]

Okay, sure thing! It's looking pretty good. Let's see how those ones go tomorrow. :smile:

[crash]

Testarossa wrote:

'Hi Sportz,

The system is very simple really, so giving away the basic rules would give away the system, which i don't want to do at this stage...' Quote.

If I had a system with a 205% POT, I wouldn't be giving away the rules either !

So...

Not trying to be harsh or upset anyone, but I think I'm making a valid point, which is reason enough to comment:

Great, the results of a system with unpublished rules [ about as interesting as reading a tattslotto result you havn't got a ticket in ].

Apart from being a possible exercise in self praise,is there some sort of rational reasoning at work here ?
If so, please enlighten me as I just can't see it. [ It's obviously on the wrong forum page as well ].

Cheers.


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[Shaun]

Crash ...the fact he put his recent results there is enought to understand how the system works if you take the time to go over each selection and find common ground

[crash]

Thanks Shaun,

I'm with the program now. Testa was 'secretly' letting everyone in on the system ?

Boy, am I s-l-o-w !!

Thanks Testa.

[TESTAROSSA]

Crash,

The reason i posted results is because i am going to post the selections daily from today, i thought people might want to know what the previous results were like.

I might be wrong but were you the one who said Sportz was an idiot for posting his successful system rules? Now you are calling me an egomaniac because i posted a few background results from a system i have been working on so i can post selections daily.

Shaun is right the system is pretty simple, all you have to do is have a look at each selections form and you will notice they all have something in common.

Cheers.

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[TESTAROSSA]

Tuesday Results:

Bathurst.

R1 (13) Star Of Fashion - 3rd, $3.50.

Pakenham.

R3 (3) Amtrak - RACE ABANDONED.

Townsville.

R3 (4) Who Dares Wins - RACE ABANDONED.

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Wednesday Selections:

Ipswich.

R4 (9) Petite Fraar
R4 (16) Real Live Woman
R5 (11) Oransay

Cheers.

[crash]

Testa,

Steady ! I didn't call you anything.

I was commenting on what was actually in [or wasn't in ] your first post, not your unknown 'intentions' [ that you have belatedly now posted ]. We ain't mind readers here.

I made fair comment considering your posts content, not an accusation. Why would anyone bother ?

Testa wrote:
"I might be wrong but were you the one who said Sportz was an idiot for posting his successful system rules? Now you are calling me an egomaniac " end quote.

Before you go suggesting I called someone an 'idiot' or called you an 'egomaniac', perhaps you should read the forum rules on slander because your indulging in it.

If anything I called Sportz 'altruistic' [ a compliment ] and certainly not an 'idiot'. He also agreed with the point I was making if you would care to look.

Cheers.


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[Shaun]

Testa....i am buggered if i can find your neat bit of form....think this will take longer than i thought.....did you use your own data base for this system

[Desi]

Testarossa,
Not sure what it is...cos I know I am slow he he! and lazy...Testa thanks for the tip today..might have a look at the Ipswich lot...like any system...time will tell but so far looks OK...

[crash]

Selections – 43.
Winners – 7.
Placings – 14.
Return - $136.00.
Profit - $93.00.
P.O.T – 215%.


O/L $86 [assuming e/w on all bets ]

Wouldn't profit only be $50 not $93 ?
Only the cost of the win bets have been deducted from return.

Cheers.

[Shaun]

crash never assume it will always make an ASS out of U and ME he didn't include the place betts because there were none....he was demonstrating win returns....but did show the place % if any one was interested

[crash]

Have to agree there Shaun.

I guess I was too tired from all the searching for the common links that these horses have, to add everything up.

My assumption was, as there is no O/L total, but the place prices and place totals are displayed along with the win totals, it should mean something [ e/w betting ? ].

I should not assume there is a logical reason behind anything in this forum anymore.

I did try, rather feebly, to cover myself with a question mark [ at the last moment ].

So far, I have come up with these system rules:
1. Win bet only
2. Must be a maiden
3. 1st. or 2nd. up only
4. Any day of the week
5. stating price up to $38 [maybe more]
6. any barrier
7. any jockey
8. any trainer
9. If more than one selection, go with your best guess or throw a dart [?]

There may be more, but I am at a loss and still tired [ and I just got up ].

Cheers.


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[good 4th]

I cant find anything in common with theses selections..... it's got me, come on TESTAROSSA how about a clue??????

GD4TH

[Shaun]

NO clues...i like this game...just when i think i have found it...there will be one horse that stuffs it up......he did say it was simple so i am guessing there is 1 or 2 rules

[TESTAROSSA]

There are actually 7 rules, but you already have 3:

(1) Must be a Maiden.
(2) Must be 1st or 2nd up.
(3) Must be $8.00 or more.

Clues:

(1) Check amount of starts for each selection.

(2) The thing they all have in common happened at their first lifetime start.

Hope that helps.

Cheers.

[puntz]

can you be a bit more specific on the
"first life time start" ?

Is this trials, home track, or the actual track of their very first start /

[TESTAROSSA]

Puntz,

First actual race start involving prizemoney.

[TESTAROSSA]

Wednesday Results:

Ipswich.

R4 (9) Petite Fraar - UNP
R4 (16) Real Live Woman - UNP
R5 (11) Oransay - 1st, $8.40, $2.50.

Selections – 47.
Winners – 8.
Placings – 16.
Win Return - $144.40.
Win Profit - $97.40.
Win P.O.T – 207.2%.
Place Return - $68.40.
Place Profit - $21.40.
Place P.O.T - 45.5%.

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Thursday Selections:

Bendigo

R1 (2) Carlton Caper
R1 (8) Silent Street
R2 (2) Baudolino
R2 (4) English Oak
R2 (6) Mistanz
R3 (2) Classic Chevron
R3 (11) Umbria

Gosford

R3 (6) Pompeii Dancer
R4 (3) Gipsy Magic
R4 (7) Mrs Hogan
R5 (7) Cosmology
R5 (11) Mechanical Fan
R5 (13) Smart Maxie

Cheers.

[sportznut]

It's certainly doing well Testa! :smile:

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[good 4th]

Forgot to back your selections but great stuff.
Still cant work it out though. Prize money hey mmmmmmmmmmm
Nope cant work it......

GD4TH

[crash]

1 st. start ?

Well, being maidens, what they all have in common is they lost. LOLOL.

Cheers.

[kenchar]

Crash,

Sorry about this but I can't help myself.

Yeah they lost like 2 of the 3 tips you posted the other day. ( actually 4 tips but 1 was scatched).

I watched those tips with interest and the only conclusion I can come to is that don't worry about doing any form, just go to the Qtab site and look for the horses that have got a big red mark on the odds and you will come up with the same selections.

Would save you a lot of time :lol:

[crash]

You had a bad day Ken char ? 1 win and a second wasn't bad from 3. [weren't all favorites either]. Perhaps you should put some tips up yourself ? Your not even risking being in the comp.

Testa,

Have just finished checking out the first starts of the horses here. The only thing I can find in common, is that they are all horses [?].

Love a riddle, but ???

Good going anyway Testa, however your doing it.

Cheers.

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[kenchar]

No actually I had a puuuuuuurfect day, 2 bets 2.1 and 2.5 :grin:

Just getting tired of you having a shot at people for no reason.

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[Our Maizcay]

Ok ..

i haven't finished looking through everything, but here are my possible 3 additional rules based on the horses given.

Testarossa ... am I right about any of these???

* Under 10 starts .. ie 1 to 9
* Weight change from previous start either up max 3kgs, or down max 3kgs (-3 to +3 kgs)
* My longshot ... Average Prizemoney $2,000 or less.

Also, I have narrowed your selections down again using some very basic additional criteria , and got two new feeds. The results were... with only one additional rule...

BELLA FUTURA unp
CODED $29.00 $5.80
DISCO SLACKS unp
HELLO CRYSTAL 3rd $4.40
JONOBLE $10.20 $2.30
MONKEYPICKEN unp
PEGUNNY JAKE unp
ROXBURY HALL unp
SHE'S STRIKING $10.90 $3.10
SLASHERS CREEK unp $1.60
STARZAMI $10.20 $2.10
Selections: 11
Collect (Win): $60.30
Profit: $49.30

With the smallest of extension of the same criteria we could add this to the above...

CRYSTAL EXPRESS $2.20
LADY CANNY
WEEPING WILLOW
CHARLIE'S LEGACY
LA SPERANZA
DARING ECHO
ORONSAY $8.40 $2.50
BROCANTEUR $37.80 $5.20
LONGSTONE
DREJA
ONUS
CHAMPONY
NINA BELLE
GONE FOR GLORY
It drops your strike rate, but there is a good profit there.

The other sub-system from your horses gives these results ... again, a very simple criteria ( 1 rule)..

CODED $29.00 $5.80
CRYSTAL EXPRESS $2.20
HELLO CRYSTAL $4.40
JONOBLE $10.20 $2.30
KAORU SQUARE
MONKEYPICKEN
NINA BELLE
SHE'S STRIKING $10.90 $3.10
SLASHERS CREEK $1.60
ZAMURD

Selections: 10
Win Div: $50.10
Profit: $40.10
Place Div: $19.40
Profit: $9.40 (94%)


I'll show you mine if you show me yours :smile:

I have looked at tomorrows yet, so haven't applied my criteria to your selections.

Good Luck for tomorrow....

OM

[jaffa]

I have used a very successful maiden system on city and provincial tracks for 20 years , since a rails client of bookie Col Dale in sydney put me on to it.

Only time i have back $125 winners 3 times in town, Simple rules which i am happy to share.

First -- Barrier 7 or inside
2nd -- No 2nd ups unless first prepartion
3rd -- Must not had more 7 starts
4th and last-- Must be $ 7 or more.

If 2 in race back both, if more back best drawn 2.

Maidens anywhere. Just have a look on Thurs 26/2/04 at any track.

[Desi]

Testa,
Just got home in time for a late bite and witnessed Oransay come in...good pick LOL of course did not have time to back it...will watch with interest Thursday's lot as there are a lot more...

[Our Maizcay]

Testa,

here is my selections based upon your selections for Thursday 26th...

1st Plan

BENDIGO 2 6 MISTANZ
BENDIGO 3 11 UMBRIA
GOSFORD 4 3 GIPSY MAGIC
GOSFORD 5 13 SMART MAXIE
GOSFORD 4 7 MRS HOGAN
BENDIGO 2 4 ENGLISH OAK

2nd Plan

BENDIGO 2 6 MISTANZ
GOSFORD 5 13 SMART MAXIE
BENDIGO 2 2 BAUDOLINO

Regards,

OM

[TheAvenger]

It will be most interesting watching this system in action tonight. I'm glad your selections are on the two tracks I'm allowed to bet from the U.S.. Good luck to us all.
Maiden races are tough to crack here as well.

Regards,


Glenn

[crash]

Maizcay/Jaffa,

Wow, this thread is 'growing' systems !

The common link for Testa's system though, is something in common to all horse's first start. Find that and everything else becomes clear I think.

Will have to have another look.

Cheers.




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[crash]

Kenchar,

I prefere humor with my 'shots', not cheap spite [I don't think anyone in this forum needs you as babysitter].

Back to publishing your tips after they run [you should start another thread on it ] ?
We could vote on a new rule in the comp. to encourage you to join in, allow you to post your Sat. tips as results on Sat. night.

My only bets yesterday were R6 and 7 at Sandown: $9 and $4.50 wins. Sounds a bit flat after the event, doesn't it ?

Mountaineers couldn't climb the chip on your shoulder. Give it a rest, this ain't your thread.

Cheers.


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[TESTAROSSA]

On 2004-02-25 23:42, Our Maizcay wrote:

Ok ..

i haven't finished looking through everything, but here are my possible 3 additional rules based on the horses given.

Testarossa ... am I right about any of these???

* Under 10 starts .. ie 1 to 9
* Weight change from previous start either up max 3kgs, or down max 3kgs (-3 to +3 kgs)
* My longshot ... Average Prizemoney $2,000 or less.


OM,

The Under 10 starts rule is spot on, the other 2 are not, there are no rules involving Weight or Prizemoney, or Barriers as well.

Everyone,

The thing they all have in common at their first start is pretty simple, ( Besides losing Crash :smile: ) You are all gonna kick yourselves when you realise what it is.

I suggest going to Expertform and searching each selection in Horse History and look at everything each selection has in common at its first start.

Hint - It involves a number :wink:

Cheers.



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[TESTAROSSA]

Thursday Selections:

After Scratchings:

Remember only back if $8.00 or more!!!

Bendigo

R1 (2) Carlton Caper
R1 (8) Silent Street
R2 (2) Baudolino
R2 (4) English Oak
R2 (6) Mistanz
R3 (2) Classic Chevron
R3 (11) Umbria

Gosford

R3 (6) Pompeii Dancer
R4 (3) Gipsy Magic
R4 (7) Mrs Hogan
R5 (11) Mechanical Fan
R5 (13) Smart Maxie

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Fridays Selections:

Ararat

R2 (4) Sea Tern
R8 (3) Dream Luck
R8 (11) Just Leica

Doomben

R3 (2) Iron Bridge
R3 (5) Riotous
R3 (7) Templin
R3 (8) Mr Benson

Grafton

R5 (3) Te Rapa Boy
R5 (11) Emanjaya

Penola

R2 (5) Avon’s Magic
R8 (13) Call To Action

Cheers.

[insidetube]

Hi Testa
All these horses were in the market first up,so connection must have a good opinion of there horse,just going of todays and tommorrows tip's they have all ran in the top 5, all but 1 Te Rapa Boy 6th . well thought i would through my 2 cents in.
Hey Testa would love to catch up at wyong races 1 day.
The Tube

[crash]

$8.00 pre-post or starting price ?

[Go-Long]

under 10/1 starting price

[TESTAROSSA]

On 2004-02-26 10:59, crash wrote:

$8.00 pre-post or starting price ?


Starting price.

Congratulations go to Insidetube and Go-Long, selections must have been 9-1 or less in their first lifetime start.

Insidetube,

Would be great to meet up at Wyong races one day, if you wanna send me an email penrith43@hotmail.com is where to send it.

Cheers.

[crash]

OK Testa,

We have:
1. Must be a maiden
2. 1st. or 2nd. up
3. 10 or less starts
4. 9/1 or less first career start
5. Must be $8 or more starting price
6. ???????
7. ???????

Two rules missing folks.

Cheers.

[Go-Long]

updating rules?
Must be running at same distance (1st up)
or within 200m.
Must have a 50%+ strike rate in top five.

[puntz]

HA !
won't fool me.

Bendigo race 2
No 1 paid 37.20 (NSW)

But guess what ?

What price did it open ?

Very nice win ,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH !

[crash]

Awesome fellow wasn't a qualifier [it paid $17 Vic. tab I think ]???

All tips have lost but R4/3 and R5/11 at Gosford are still goers.

Cheers.

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[puntz]

Crash, no it was not a qualifier according to these rules, BUT,
it shows me alot of focus WAS on the rule selections, therefore it exposes what this one about.
May not happen again, but the oportunity was there

[TESTAROSSA]

Thursday Results:

Sorry fellas tough day today, although if you backed all runners regardless of price would have just lost.

Bendigo

R1 (2) Carlton Caper - UNP
R1 (8) Silent Street - UNP
R2 (2) Baudolino - UNP
R2 (4) English Oak - UNP
R2 (6) Mistanz - 3rd, (Under $8)
R3 (2) Classic Chevron - 1st, (Under $8)
R3 (11) Umbria - 2nd, (Under $8)

Gosford

R3 (6) Pompeii Dancer - 3rd, (Under $8)
R4 (3) Gipsy Magic - 1st, (Under $8)
R4 (7) Mrs Hogan - UNP, (Under $8)
R5 (11) Mechanical Fan - UNP
R5 (13) Smart Maxie - 1st, (Under $8)

Remember a bad day like this will be common when dealing with a longshot system!!!

Cheers.

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[TESTAROSSA]

On 2004-02-26 12:04, crash wrote:

OK Testa,

We have:
1. Must be a maiden
2. 1st. or 2nd. up
3. 10 or less starts
4. 9/1 or less first career start
5. Must be $8 or more starting price
6. ???????
7. ???????

Two rules missing folks.

Cheers.


Last 2 rules involve lengths beaten throughout racing career.

If everyone is sick of figuring them out i will tell the last 2 rules.

Cheers.

[crash]

Testa,

When Sports was publishing his great systems ,some people thought I was giving him a hard time [ far from it actually ]. Later in his thread I called him altruistic [ suffering an over generous heart ] for what he was doing.

Sportz eventually saw my point and realized that in this game, you are betting against other punters, not the TAB.

When I posted my last post, Gosford R4/3 was showing above $8 [$11 I think ] and it was the only bet I got on [payed in Vic. $6.70] as I wasn't going to be around to see the starting price.

Why did it drop in price ? Because there has been over 400 'views' today and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out what happened.

Many people view this forum to pick the bones out of it [ I recollect calling them parasites, which upset a few contributors that the barb wasn't directed at ]. It would be great if the forum was restricted to the handful that actually contribute ].

For a long-shot system, how long will it take for it to be impossible to find a pick that is starting at $8 or more, tomorrow, or the day after ?

Cheers.


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[kenchar]

Crash,

It opened equal 5/1 2nd fav on fixed odds and came over sky it was being well backed, so if you think the price was anything to do with this thread then you are in ya ya land, UNLESS all the big punters at Gosford are getting their selections from this forum???????.

I would rather think their information was informed info.

Oh! just to make you happy I had a bad day, BUT that's not why I am posting this.

Cheers

[crash]

[ Yes, it's obvious why you are posting ]

Sorry to hear you had a bad day Kenchar .

Contrary to what you would like to believe, I am not mean spirited at all. You should take your vendetta elsewhere, as it really is tiresome, and probably not just to me.

If you keep following me around the forum snapping at my heals every chance you get, I'll do something about it you won't like
[ IT'S TIRESOME MATE ! ].

On IAS the price was above $11 [ not fixed ] when I placed my bet.

It doesn't take BIG punters to kill a price this time of week, just a lot of smallish ones !!

Cheers and better luck tomorrow.


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[kenchar]

Crash,

Sorry I can't agree the tab price just adjusted itself to somewhere around it,s on course price which is the norm except for big longshots.

The only exception you will get to this is midweek Brisbane and Adelaide races ( mainly Brisbane) where their market % is so high you can get a large variation, but mainly in the bigger open fields which are very FLAT in the betting, and here You can find a horse $5 with the books and say $12 on the tab, BUT only if Sky doesn't mention the difference because if they do sure as hell the sheep will follow.

Cheers

I just noticed the additions to your last post, there is no vendetta as you call it, but as I posted a few months ago quite often I pick you up on a lot of of things, but never bothered posting back, now I am and it seems like you can't cop it.

You like giving it out though.

By the way the horse WAS TOP SELECTION ON QTAB RADIO PICKS, and do you realise how many people follow those.

Cheers again

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[crash]

Sorry, my response allowance for you has just run out Kenchar [ you'll have to find your cheap thrills ealsewhere ].

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[TESTAROSSA]

These are the results since Sunday 8th February:

Wyong

R1 (9) Birubianice – UNP

Flemington

R3 (8) Teleprint - UNP

Sunshine Coast

R2 (17) Buck’s Secret – 1st, $34.20, $6.60
R2 (18) Monkeypicken – 4th

Gawler

R2 (9) Northgate Street - UNP
R3 (9) I’ll Have Fun – UNP
R3 (12) Len’s Gold – UNP

Kilmore

R3 (2) Clear Intent – 2nd, $3.40
R9 (5) Kenny’s Rainbow – UNP
R9 (8) Vice Admiral – UNP

Wagga Wagga

R3 (3) Plaudere – 2nd, $2.70
R3 (5) Captain Aubrey – 1st, $13.40, $3.50

Pinjarra

R2 (7) Dr Gee – UNP
R3 (9) Royal Risca – UNP

Warracknabeal

R3 (1) Bud’s Boy – UNP
R3 (4) Duel In The Sun – UNP

9/2/04

Hobart

R1 (1) I’m A Bandit – UNP

10/2/04

Seymour

R8 (5) James Blonde – UNP

11/2/04

Sale

R2 (7) Houston Calling – UNP
R2 (17) Oriana – 1st, $19.10, $4.50

Ipswich

R2 (2) Mates Rates – 2nd, $9.20

Balaklava

R2 (9) Bobbie Deegs – 1st, $12.80, $2.70
R2 (12) Oceanic Belle – UNP
R3 (5) Chigwidden – UNP
R3 (6) Hurricane City – 3rd, $2.10

12/2/04

Gosford

R6 (6) Hilly – 4th

Ballarat

R1 (8) Red Sceptre – UNP
R1 (13) Classic Chevron – 3rd, $2.00
R2 (6) Thorbey - UNP
R2 (8) Leeds United – 4th

Bunbury

R2 (12) Royal Showman – 1st, $9.60, $3.10

13/2/04

Eagle Farm

R2 (1) Tropiqualo – 2nd, $2.70
R2 (6) Craiglea Warrior – 4th
R3 (4) Odalisk – 3rd, $3.70

Horsham

R1 (12) Staresque - UNP

Goulburn

R3 (6) Spy Game – UNP

Walcha

R7 (5) Prince Of Time - UNP

14/2/04

Wangaratta

R3 (9) His Worship – UNP
R4 (2) Geiger Way - UNP

Gold Coast

R1 (1) Triple It Will – 4th
R1 (6) Cinque Bella Donna - UNP

Toowoomba

R7 (5) Great Drop - UNP
R7 (7) Reckless Jester - UNP

15/2/04

Kyneton

R1 (15) Honour Your Lady – 4th

Colac

R4 (10) Duchess Of Time – 3rd, $5.60.

Launceston

R2 (6) Grasjar – 3rd, $2.80

16/2/04

Taree

R1 (1) Madame Joy – 3rd, $1.80
R1 (3) Warrior Elf - UNP

17/2/04

Werribee

R1 (6) Lady Canny – 2nd, NPP
R2 (7) Charlie’s Legacy – UNP
R2 (10) Gone For Glory – UNP

Townsville.

R4 (6) Crystal Express – 3rd, $2.20


18/2/04.

Hawkesbury.

R1 (11) Jonoble – 1st, $10.20, $2.30

Mornington.

R2 (4) Onus – 4th.

Doomben.

R1 (8) Starzami – 1st, $10.20, $2.10

Strathalbyn.

R2 (4) Bella Futura – 4th
R2 (5) Disco Slacks – UNP
R7 (1) Edison –1st, $28.60, $6.40
R7 (6) Dendy Walk – UNP

Pinjarra.

R2 (9) Coded – 1st, $29.00, $5.80

19/2/04.

Canterbury.

R2 (6) One Small Step – UNP
R2 (12) Zamurd – UNP

Benalla.

R2 (6) Apples – UNP
R2 (8) Weeping Willow – UNP
R3 (5) Nina Belle – UNP
R3 (7) She’s Striking – 1st, $10.90, $3.10
R3 (12) La Speranza – UNP

20/2/04.

Yarra Glen.

R3 (1) Bobbafet – 2nd, $12.50

Rockhampton.

R5 (4) Pegunny Jake

Queanbeyan.

R1 (6) Roxbury Hall – UNP
R4 (8) Tract – UNP
R4 (12) Meddling Magpie - UNP

Quirindi,

R3 (6) Broc's River – 1st, $8.30, $3.00

21/2/04.

Geelong.

R3 (6) Longstone – UNP

Gold Coast.

R4 (4) Skinstad – UNP

Kembla Grange.

R4 (15) Blushing Maizy – 3rd, $11.10

22/2/04.

Kilmore.

R4 (4) Mr Balinchy – UNP
R9 (10) Little Darling – UNP

Penshurst.

R2 (2) Dreja – UNP

Port Lincoln.

R8 (8) Daring Echo – UNP

Sunshine Coast.

R3 (14) Moneypicken – UNP

Taree.

R3 (6) Slashers Creek – 3rd, $1.60
R5 (10) Sudan Silk - $2.70

Wyong.

R2 (4) Champony – UNP
R2 (8) Neurology – UNP
R2 (16) Kaoru Square – UNP
R5 (8) Mr Brisvegas – UNP
R5 (12) Hello Cyrstal – 3rd, $4.40

23/2/04.

Scone.

R2 (1) Brocanteur – 1st, $37.80, $5.20
R4 (3) Tsear – UNP

Kyneton.

R2 (5) Red Car Express – UNP
R2 (6) Vice Admiral – UNP

24/2/04.

Bathurst.

R1 (13) Star Of Fashion – 3rd, $3.50.

25/2/04.

Ipswich.

R4 (9) Petite Fraar - UNP
R4 (16) Real Live Woman - UNP
R5 (11) Oransay – 1st, $8.40, $2.50.

26/2/04

Bendigo

R1 (2) Carlton Caper – UNP
R1 (8) Silent Street - UNP
R2 (2) Baudolino - UNP
R2 (4) English Oak - UNP

Gosford

R5 (11) Mechanical Fan - UNP

Selections - 101
Winners - 13
Placings - 31
Win Return - $232.50
Profit - $131.50
P.O.T - 130%
Place Return - $124.80
Profit - $23.80
P.O.T - 23.5%
EW Return - $357.30
EW Profit - $155.30
EW P.O.T - 76.9%

Cheers.

[sportznut]

Testa,

I take it those results are based on getting at least $8 or no bet???

[Shaun]

Sportz...i have a system that i am testing at the moment that is a longshot system with a 12% strike rate and and ave divi of about $12 i have a minimum price of $8 i have found that going lower you do get more winners but you also get lots more selections that lose....the $8 rule cuts down your bets just like your price structure on your systems do

[Mark]

Yes, well over 400 views, but by the same half a dozen people, over & over. I don't think they all had enough on to affect the price.

[puntz]

40/60 staking rule I get
40 units win/60 units place
I done this very quickly and not checked for accuracy, but well in front.
Credit Testa, nice system
the copy and paste on this forum has me stuffed, but I think if one copy and past this in spreadsheet and do the formula it should work out ok
Longest loosing streak though was 10
cost profit
10000 6788



Paid win Paid plce Bet w Bet pl Cost Rtn w Rtn pl Net Streaks
R1 (9) Birubianice – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (8) Teleprint - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (17) Buck’s Secret – 1st, $34.20, $6.60 34.2 6.6 40 60 100 1368 396 1664 0
R2 (9) Northgate Street - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (18) Monkeypicken – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (9) I’ll Have Fun – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R3 (12) Len’s Gold – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (2) Clear Intent – 2nd, $3.40 0 3.4 40 60 100 0 204 104 0
R9 (5) Kenny’s Rainbow – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R9 (8) Vice Admiral – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (3) Plaudere – 2nd, $2.70 0 2.7 40 60 100 0 162 62 0
R3 (5) Captain Aubrey – 1st, $13.40, $3.50 13.4 3.5 40 60 100 536 210 646 0
R2 (7) Dr Gee – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (9) Royal Risca – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (1) Bud’s Boy – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R3 (4) Duel In The Sun – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R1 (1) I’m A Bandit – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R8 (5) James Blonde – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 6
R2 (7) Houston Calling – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 7
R2 (17) Oriana – 1st, $19.10, $4.50 19.1 4.5 40 60 100 764 270 934 0
R2 (2) Mates Rates – 2nd, $9.20 0 9.2 40 60 100 0 552 452 0
R2 (9) Bobbie Deegs – 1st, $12.80, $2.70 12.8 2.7 40 60 100 512 162 574 0
R2 (12) Oceanic Belle – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (5) Chigwidden – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (6) Hurricane City – 3rd, $2.10 0 2.1 40 60 100 0 126 26 0
R6 (6) Hilly – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (8) Red Sceptre – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R1 (13) Classic Chevron – 3rd, $2.00 0 2 40 60 100 0 120 20 0
R2 (6) Thorbey - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (8) Leeds United – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (12) Royal Showman – 1st, $9.60, $3.10 9.6 3.1 40 60 100 384 186 470 0
R2 (1) Tropiqualo – 2nd, $2.70 0 2.7 40 60 100 0 162 62 0
R2 (6) Craiglea Warrior – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (4) Odalisk – 3rd, $3.70 0 3.7 40 60 100 0 222 122 0
R1 (12) Staresque - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (6) Spy Game – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R7 (5) Prince Of Time - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R3 (9) His Worship – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R4 (2) Geiger Way - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R1 (1) Triple It Will – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 6
R1 (6) Cinque Bella Donna - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 7
R7 (5) Great Drop - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 8
R7 (7) Reckless Jester - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 9
R1 (15) Honour Your Lady – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 10
R4 (10) Duchess Of Time – 3rd, $5.60. 0 5.6 40 60 100 0 336 236 0
R2 (6) Grasjar – 3rd, $2.80 0 2.8 40 60 100 0 168 68 0
R1 (1) Madame Joy – 3rd, $1.80 0 1.8 40 60 100 0 108 8 0
R1 (6) Lady Canny – 2nd, NPP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (7) Charlie’s Legacy – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (10) Gone For Glory – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R4 (6) Crystal Express – 3rd, $2.20 0 2.2 40 60 100 0 132 32 0
R1 (11) Jonoble – 1st, $10.20, $2.30 10.2 2.3 40 60 100 408 138 446 0
R2 (4) Onus – 4th. 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (8) Starzami – 1st, $10.20, $2.10 10.2 2.1 40 60 100 408 126 434 0
R2 (4) Bella Futura – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (5) Disco Slacks – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R7 (1) Edison –1st, $28.60, $6.40 28.6 6.4 40 60 100 1144 384 1428 0
R7 (6) Dendy Walk – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (9) Coded – 1st, $29.00, $5.80 29 5.8 40 60 100 1160 348 1408 0
R2 (6) One Small Step – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (12) Zamurd – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (6) Apples – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R2 (8) Weeping Willow – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (5) Nina Belle – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R3 (7) She’s Striking – 1st, $10.90, $3.10 10.9 3.1 40 60 100 436 186 522 0
R3 (12) La Speranza – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (1) Bobbafet – 2nd, $12.50 0 12.5 40 60 100 0 750 650 0
R5 (4) Pegunny Jake 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (6) Roxbury Hall – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R4 (8) Tract – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R4 (12) Meddling Magpie - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (6) Broc's River – 1st, $8.30, $3.00 8.3 3 40 60 100 332 180 412 0
R3 (6) Longstone – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R4 (4) Skinstad – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R4 (15) Blushing Maizy – 3rd, $11.10 0 11.1 40 60 100 0 666 566 0
R4 (4) Mr Balinchy – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R9 (10) Little Darling – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (2) Dreja – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R8 (8) Daring Echo – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (14) Moneypicken – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R3 (6) Slashers Creek – 3rd, $1.60 0 1.6 40 60 100 0 96 -4 0
R5 (10) Sudan Silk - $2.70 0 2.7 40 60 100 0 162 62 0
R2 (4) Champony – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (8) Neurology – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (16) Kaoru Square – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R5 (8) Mr Brisvegas – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R5 (12) Hello Cyrstal – 3rd, $4.40 0 4.4 40 60 100 0 264 164 0
R2 (1) Brocanteur – 1st, $37.80, $5.20 37.8 5.2 40 60 100 1512 312 1724 0
R4 (3) Tsear – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (5) Red Car Express – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (6) Vice Admiral – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R1 (13) Star Of Fashion – 3rd, $3.50. 0 3.5 40 60 100 0 210 110 0
R4 (9) Petite Fraar - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R4 (16) Real Live Woman - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R5 (11) Oransay – 1st, $8.40, $2.50. 8.4 2.5 40 60 100 336 150 386 0
R1 (2) Carlton Caper – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (8) Silent Street - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (2) Baudolino - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R2 (4) English Oak - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R5 (11) Mechanical Fan - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
Selections - 101 10000 6788

[crash]

Nice work Puntz. Have you figured out the 2 missing rules ?

Mark,

I hope you are right, but the views went
through the roof yesterday. Only time will tell I guess.

Cheers.

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[puntz]

Crash,
To be honest, no.
I use a much simpler method of selections
that utilizes the other 9/4 staking plan which sustains 11 consecutive losses @ 115 units.
Therefore not so savvy on what to look for cos I have stuck to one method of selection for years.
It works, it ain't broke so why fix-it !! ?
Just like the rule in the 9/4 staking plan say's
"Good for the not so long shot type selection system".

The 9/4 plan could be a bit risky with testa's selections cos there was a run of 10 outs.
One more loss and the 115 units would have vanished.
However, I'll do another calculation with the 9/4 staking method and see what happens when time permits.

[crash]

Puntz,

Ah, 40/60 !! Now I get where you were coming from in that other thread.

Your right about the outs and also it is worth remembering that only 4 winners accounted for most of the profit. Would have to keep getting those biggies to stay on top.

Still, this is a fascinating system of Test's, not that it has worked [so far], but why it has worked at all ? Hard to see any handicapping rhyme or reason to it [?].

Cheers.


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[puntz]

Crash,
This was a point I try to make.
OK, so we have testa's selection results, all posted for all to see. It was too easy to sit back, type in a spreadsheet,then look at the profit/loss sum, and easy to say, "yeah this will work"
But in the real world, if one is REALY on the 10th bet after 9 loses..do you think it's as easy as sitting behind a keyboard and due to "past results" it will win like in some utopia-matic..
I don't think so..emotions are one of the major, if not THE major hurdles to get by on the punt.


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[crash]

Puntz,

I spotted the 60/40 typo and was correcting it about the time you were writing.

Yes, the good ol' real world can quickly become a scary place. I hope there was no gusto betting yesterday on the loosing streak. Today's betting will be very timid, yet the system might be on fire !!!

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Fridays Selections after scratchings:

Ararat

R2 (4) Sea Tern
R8 (3) Dream Luck
R8 (11) Just Leica

Doomben

R3 (5) Riotous
R3 (7) Templin

Grafton

R5 (3) Te Rapa Boy
R5 (11) Emanjaya

Penola

R2 (5) Avon’s Magic

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

On 2004-02-26 21:04, sportznut wrote:
Testa,

I take it those results are based on getting at least $8 or no bet???


Thats correct Sportz.


On 2004-02-27 09:16, crash wrote:

Still, this is a fascinating system of Test's, not that it has worked [so far], but why it has worked at all ? Hard to see any handicapping rhyme or reason to it [?].


I believe there is a reason it has worked (so far) and that is that obviously if a selection started at 9-1 or better in its first lifetime start, it MIGHT have some ability.

That brings us to the 1st or 2nd up rule, which i believe gives the trainer a chance of producing the horse in much better shape then its 1st start, how often have we seen an average/good 2yo come out 1st up as a 3yo and become a very good 3yo+ horse.

The under 10 starts rule is pretty obvious, we don't want to be backing maidens who haven't won after that many chances, and the 8-1 or above starting price is obvious as well, don't want to be backing maidens that get to short.

Cheers.

[Our Maizcay]

Testa...

here again is my subset of your version. Yesterday there was 2 qualifiers without luck.. so here goes for today..

Our Maizcay's Testarossa Maidens Part One:
Penola: Race 2 #5 Avon's Magic
Grafton: Race 5 #3 Te Rapa Boy
Doomben: Race 3 #7 Templin
Ararat: Race 2 #4 Sea Tern
Ararat: Race 8 #11 Just Leica

Our Maizcay's Testarossa Maidens Part Two:
Penola: Race 2 #5 Avon's Magic
Grafton: Race 5 #3 Te Rapa Boy
Doomben: Race 3 #5 Riotous
Ararat: Race 8 #11 Just Leica

I'm a little late on these, but only one has run to date ... Sea Tern, but it didn't qualify as it was paying around $5.00.

Good Luck,

OM

[sportznut]

Templin definitely WON'T be $8 or better. The way they were talking about this one on Radiotab this morning, I think it'll probably be short priced favourite!

[TESTAROSSA]

Fridays Results:

Ararat

R2 (4) Sea Tern - UNP, (Under $8)
R8 (3) Dream Luck - UNP
R8 (11) Just Leica - UNP

Doomben

R3 (5) Riotous - UNP
R3 (7) Templin - 2nd, (Under $8)

Grafton

R5 (3) Te Rapa Boy 3rd, (Under $8)
R5 (11) Emanjaya - UNP

Penola

R2 (5) Avon’s Magic UNP, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Saturdays Selections:

Cranbourne

R2 (10) The Queen’s English
R3 (2) Kingdom’s Century
R3 (13) Postcode

Gold Coast

R2 (5) Irish Band
R4 (10) Cinque Bella Donna

Newcastle

R1 (6) Salaam Dubai
R2 (2) Al Tharb
R2 (12) Atezzeta
R4 (3) Jireha
R4 (6) Reconnoitre

Toowoomba

R1 (2) Luke Tomahawk
R1 (11) Zellweger
R2 (7) La Special

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Saturday Selections after scratchings:

Cranbourne

R2 (10) The Queen’s English
R3 (2) Kingdom’s Century

Gold Coast

R2 (5) Irish Band

Newcastle

R1 (6) Salaam Dubai
R2 (2) Al Tharb
R4 (3) Jireha
R4 (6) Reconnoitre

Toowoomba

R1 (2) Luke Tomahawk
R1 (11) Zellweger
R2 (7) La Special

Cheers.

[Our Maizcay]

Testarossa,

I forgot to post my additional selections for your system today.

They were for Part A and Part B:

Irish Band
Kingdom's Century

Of course only Kingdom's Century was over the $8.00 mark, and paid $7.00 for the place on UniTAB.

As mentioned previously, there is only 1 simple rule for each subset.

For Part B the simple rule is: Finished less than 3 lengths from winner last start.

For Part A the simple rule is: for those with PPPro, the horse must be in the predicted top 3 rankings.

All previous selections I have posted following your initial selections have adopted those simple rules.

Hope you capitalised today on your good results.

Regards,

OM

[Desi]

Testa. Our Mainzcay,
Thats a lot of data...some excellent tips...is a $40-$60 split a normal betting allocation for these types of systems?

Seems a lot but having seen the results you would have to be in the black...

Thanks

[TESTAROSSA]

Saturdays Results:

Cranbourne

R2 (10) The Queen’s English - UNP
R3 (2) Kingdom’s Century – 3rd, $9.70

Gold Coast

R2 (5) Irish Band 3rd, (Under $8)

Newcastle

R1 (6) Salaam Dubai – UNP, (Under $8)
R2 (2) Al Tharb – 1st, (Under $8)
R4 (3) Jireha - UNP
R4 (6) Reconnoitre - 1st, (Under $8)

Toowoomba

R1 (2) Luke Tomahawk – 2nd, $4.70
R1 (11) Zellweger – 1st, (Under $8)
R2 (7) La Special – UNP, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Sunday Selections:

Ballarat

R1 (9) Huahinee
R1 (10) Lucky Diva
R1 (11) Possible Chance
R2 (4) Exspecta Knockback
R2 (7) Leeds United
R3 (1) Bobbafet
R4 (12) Show Princess

Seymour

R2 (4) Grumpy Pat
R2 (7) Spelling
R2 (9) Wathohuck
R2 (12) Stolen Thunder
R3 (6) Geiger Way
R3 (8) Rain King
R3 (12) La Speranza

Sunshine Coast

R2 (6) Triple It Will

Cheers.

[Chuck]

Hey Testa,

Does the last (or second last) rule of the system have anything to do with the margin they were beaten by in their first race?

thx.

[TESTAROSSA]

Chuck,

On the right track!!!

[TESTAROSSA]

Sunday Results:

Ballarat

R1 (9) Huahinee - 3rd, $3.20
R1 (10) Lucky Diva - 1st, (Under $8)
R1 (11) Possible Chance - UNP
R2 (4) Exspecta Knockback - UNP
R2 (7) Leeds United - UNP
R3 (1) Bobbafet - 1st, (Under $8)
R4 (12) Show Princess - 1st, (Under $8)

Seymour

R2 (4) Grumpy Pat - UNP, (Under $8)
R2 (7) Spelling - UNP, (Under $8)
R2 (9) Wathohuck - 1st, (Under $8)
R2 (12) Stolen Thunder - UNP
R3 (6) Geiger Way - UNP
R3 (8) Rain King - 2nd, (Under $8)
R3 (12) La Speranza - UNP

Sunshine Coast

R2 (6) Triple It Will - UNP

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Sorry fellas been very busy today, so wasn't able to post selections, wish i did though, we had 2 winners from 5 selections.

Mondays Results:

Sale

R1 (13) With Daring – 2nd, (Under $8)
R2 (1) Bally Mitchell – 1st, $9.70, $2.40
R2 (7) Balanne - UNP
R2 (12) Little Chief Debra – UNP, (Under $8)
R3 (9) Desert Clearance – 1st, $9.00, $2.10

Port Macquarie

R3 (1) Creative Force – 4th
R3 (7) Luvatius - UNP

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Tuesdays Selections:

Geelong

R4 (10) Reine Du Soir
R4 (11) Sweet Scholar
R8 (3) Amtrak

Townsville

R5 (10) Auntie Lou

Wyong

R2 (3) Cosmology
R3 (6) I Know I Am
R3 (9) Extra Terrestial
R3 (10) Pride Of Nevis
R5 (2) Winjal

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Updated Results:

Since Feb 7:

Selections - 121
Winners - 15
Placings - 36
Win Return - $251.20
Profit - $130.20
P.O.T - 107.6%
Place Return - $146.90
Profit - $25.90
P.O.T - 21.4%
EW Return - $398.10
EW Profit - $156.10
EW P.O.T - 64.5%

Since first posted selections:

Selections - 29
Winners - 3
Placings - 7
Win Return - $27.10
Loss - $1.90
L.O.T - 6.5%
Place Return - $28.10
Loss - $0.90
L.O.T - 3.1%
EW Return - $55.20
EW Loss - $2.80
EW L.O.T - 4.9%

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Wednesday Selections:

Eagle Farm

R1 (4) Rigel Kent
R1 (8) Handsome Mark
R1 (12) Hip Hop Anonymous
R2 (11) Stellina Belle
R4 (1) Destinies
R4 (2) Iron Bridge
R4 (3) Mr Benson
R5 (1) Chinbok
R5 (9) Peaceful Honour

Kembla Grange

R1 (1) Wishyouweremine
R1 (5) Danehill’s Echo
R1 (9) Scottish Laird
R1 (15) Coalmine
R2 (6) One Small Step

Mornington

R1 (1) Deadly Possessions
R4 (9) Lipad
R4 (10) Requisite

Murray Bridge

R2 (8) Mt Billy
R2 (9) Glorose
R2 (12) La Noria
R3 (6) Hurtling Along
R3 (7) Lex Luthor
R3 (8) Prince Malebo
R8 (16) Consumate

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Tuesdays Results:

Geelong

R4 (10) Reine Du Soir - UNP, (Under $8)
R4 (11) Sweet Scholar - 2nd, (Under $8)
R8 (3) Amtrak - 1st, (Under $8)

Townsville

R5 (10) Auntie Lou - UNP

Wyong

R2 (3) Cosmology - UNP, (Under $8)
R3 (6) I Know I Am - UNP
R3 (9) Extra Terrestial - 2nd, $3.90
R3 (10) Pride Of Nevis - UNP
R5 (2) Winjal - 2nd, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[ginger]

last two rules??
same d+c

[TESTAROSSA]

Wednesday Results:

Eagle Farm

R1 (4) Rigel Kent - UNP, (Under $8)
R1 (8) Handsome Mark - UNP
R1 (12) Hip Hop Anonymous - 3rd, (Under $8)
R2 (11) Stellina Belle - UNP, (Under $8)
R4 (1) Destinies - UNP, (Under $8)
R4 (2) Iron Bridge - UNP
R4 (3) Mr Benson - 2nd, $3.60
R5 (1) Chinbok - 1st, $11.70, $3.30
R5 (9) Peaceful Honour - 3rd, (Under $8)

Kembla Grange

R1 (1) Wishyouweremine - UNP, (Under $8)
R1 (5) Danehill’s Echo - 3rd, $3.10
R1 (9) Scottish Laird - UNP
R1 (15) Coalmine - UNP
R2 (6) One Small Step - UNP

Mornington

R1 (1) Deadly Possessions - 2nd, (Under$8)
R4 (9) Lipad - 4th, (Under $8)
R4 (10) Requisite - UNP, (Under $8)

Murray Bridge

R2 (8) Mt Billy - 2nd, (Under $8)
R2 (9) Glorose - SCRATCHED
R2 (12) La Noria - UNP, (Under $8)
R3 (6) Hurtling Along - 3rd, (Under $8)
R3 (7) Lex Luthor - 2nd, $2.00
R3 (8) Prince Malebo - UNP, (Under $8)
R8 (16) Consumate - 1st, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Thursday Selections:

Ballina

R2 (2) Prince Protruda
R2 (11) Look Here Tay
R5 (4) Rocky Road
R5 (6) Ebony Splendour

Canterbury

R1 (8) Shiver Of Gold

Warrnambool

R8 (6) Stony It Is
R8 (7) Triggered

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Ginger,

Last 2 rules are:

(6) Must have finished at least 5 lengths or less from the winner of at least 1 start, unless it has only had 2 starts in which case must have finished closer then 6 lengths to the winner.

(7) Must not have been beaten by 10 lengths or more on more then 1 occassion

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Thursday Results:

Ballina

R2 (2) Prince Protruda - 3rd, $6.20
R2 (11) Look Here Tay - 1st, (Under $8)
R5 (4) Rocky Road - UNP
R5 (6) Ebony Splendour - UNP

Canterbury

R1 (8) Shiver Of Gold - UNP

Warrnambool

R8 (6) Stony It Is - 2nd, (Under $8)
R8 (7) Triggered - 1st, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Fridays Selections:

Balaklava

R2 (1) Bucephalus
R2 (6) Ownership
R2 (13) Royal Reda
R2 (14) Zingo
R8 (15) Free Friday

Echuca

R1 (6) Laura’s Charm
R1 (8) Magizan
R2 (3) Devil’s Duchess
R2 (5) Petite Lille
R8 (2) Brum

Gunnedah

R3 (3) Peejaycee

Ipswich

R2 (8) Cinque Bella Donna

Nowra

R3 (8) Neurology
R4 (4) Champony
R6 (12) Du Monde

Cheers.

[ginger]

sorry to but into testas terrific tips
i think a spiteri could have a good day today from testas tips he rides
AR3-1 and AR8-15
CYA

[TESTAROSSA]

Fridays Results:

Balaklava

R3 (1) Bucephalus – 1st, (Under $8)
R3 (6) Ownership – 3rd, (Under $8)
R3 (13) Royal Reda - UNP
R3 (14) Zingo – 2nd, (Under $8)
R8 (15) Free Friday – 1st, (Under $8)

Echuca

R1 (6) Laura’s Charm – 2nd, (Under $8)
R1 (8) Magizan – 3rd, (Under $8)
R2 (3) Devil’s Duchess – UNP, (Under $8)
R2 (5) Petite Lille - UNP
R8 (2) Brum - UNP

Gunnedah

R3 (3) Peejaycee – UNP, (Under $8)

Ipswich

R2 (8) Cinque Bella Donna - UNP

Nowra

R3 (8) Neurology – 1st, (Under $8)
R4 (4) Champony – UNP, (Under $8)
R6 (12) Du Monde – 3rd, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Saturdays Selections:

Newcastle

R3 (11) Sudan Silk
R5 (9) Waterfire
R5 (13) Reigning Love
R5 (14) Troubeaut

Toowoomba

R1 (3) Luckiest
R1 (5) Must Honour
R1 (7) Great Elle

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Saturdays Results:

Newcastle

R3 (11) Sudan Silk - UNP
R5 (9) Waterfire - UNP, (Under $8)
R5 (13) Reigning Love - 2nd, (Under $8)
R5 (14) Troubeaut - UNP, (Under $8)

Toowoomba

R1 (3) Luckiest - 3rd, (Under $8)
R1 (5) Must Honour - UNP
R1 (7) Great Elle - UNP

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Sundays Selections:

Devonport

R3 (4) King Of Kata

Echuca

R2 (3) Charlie’s Legacy
R3 (1) Dirt Road Hally
R3 (4) Barely Hunter
R3 (10) Goldstram
R3 (12) Little Darling

Stony Creek

R1 (9) Postcode
R1 (10) Miss Henny Penny
R2 (4) Narrogin

Pinjarra

R1 (11) Pezzetto

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Sundays Results:

Devonport

R3 (4) King Of Kata - UNP

Echuca

R2 (3) Charlie’s Legacy - 3rd, $3.60
R3 (1) Dirt Road Hally - UNP
R3 (4) Barely Hunter - 2nd, (Under $8)
R3 (10) Goldstram - UNP
R3 (12) Little Darling - 1st, $14.00, $4.40

Stony Creek

R1 (9) Postcode - UNP, (Under $8)
R1 (10) Miss Henny Penny - UNP
R2 (4) Narrogin - UNP, (Under $8)

Pinjarra

R1 (11) Pezzetto - 1st, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Monday's Selections:

Cheltenham

R1 (1) Glorose
R1 (3) Miss Maverick
R1 (7) Imelda’s Shoes
R8 (1) Al Chergar
R8 (8) Vain Cheval
R8 (9) Vainsky
R8 (10) Wavefront
R8 (14) Nureyev’s Girl

Coffs Harbour

R1 (3) Madame Joy
R1 (4) Nancy’s Hope
R6 (2) Pressed
R6 (4) Black All Over

Eagle Farm

R1 (1) Octazure
R1 (2) Dinamira
R1 (3) Gay Deception
R1 (4) Wapilly
R1 (5) Kakonie
R2 (2) Declanter
R4 (3) Marwood Road
R4 (11) Merinda

Hanging Rock

R1 (6) Soiree Girl

Moe

R8 (6) Miss Debonair
R8 (8) Princess Gabriele
R8 (10) Rouge Sky

Rosehill

R1 (5) Erthakit
R1 (9) She’s In Demand
R2 (3) Church On Sunday
R2 (10) Sassy Soda

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Monday's Results:

Cheltenham

R1 (1) Glorose - 2nd, (Under $8)
R1 (3) Miss Maverick - UNP
R1 (7) Imelda’s Shoes - UNP, (Under $8)
R8 (1) Al Chergar – 4th
R8 (8) Vain Cheval – 1st, (Under $8)
R8 (9) Vainsky - UNP
R8 (10) Wavefront - UNP
R8 (14) Nureyev’s Girl – 2nd, (Under $8)

Coffs Harbour

R1 (3) Madame Joy - UNP, (Under $8)
R1 (4) Nancy’s Hope - 3rd, $3.40
R6 (2) Pressed – 4th
R6 (4) Black All Over - SCRATCHED

Eagle Farm

R1 (1) Octazure - 4th, (Under $8)
R1 (2) Dinamira - UNP, (Under $8)
R1 (3) Gay Deception - 3rd, NTD
R1 (4) Wapilly - UNP
R1 (5) Kakonie - SCRATCHED
R2 (2) Declanter - UNP, (Under $8)
R4 (3) Marwood Road - UNP, (Under $8)
R4 (11) Merinda - 4th, (Under $8)

Hanging Rock

R1 (6) Soiree Girl - 2nd, (Under $8)

Moe

R8 (6) Miss Debonair – UNP, (Under $8)
R8 (8) Princess Gabriele – UNP, (Under $8)
R8 (10) Rouge Sky – 3rd, (Under $8)

Rosehill

R1 (5) Erthakit - UNP
R1 (9) She’s In Demand - 1st, (Under $8)
R2 (3) Church On Sunday - 2nd, (Under $8)
R2 (10) Sassy Soda – SCRATCHED

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Tuesdays Selections:

Cessnock

R1 (3) Tsear
R1 (4) Vasspour
R1 (8) Sagapo
R3 (12) Madam Kruger

Horsham

R2 (3) Cogitate Lady
R2 (5) Jilldaw
R2 (9) Tuscany Crown
R3 (4) Leroy The Boy

Port Lincoln

R1 (2) Lincoln Sea

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Tuesdays Results:

Cessnock

R1 (3) Tsear - UNP
R1 (4) Vasspour - 3rd, (Under $8)
R1 (8) Sagapo - UNP
R3 (12) Madam Kruger - UNP, (Under $8)

Horsham

R2 (3) Cogitate Lady - 2nd, (Under $8)
R2 (5) Jilldaw - UNP
R2 (9) Tuscany Crown - 1st, (Under $8)
R3 (4) Leroy The Boy - UNP, (Under $8)

Port Lincoln

R1 (2) Lincoln Sea - UNP

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Wednesdays Selections:

Cranbourne

R3 (8) Fuji Sunrise

Ipswich

R3 (2) Rumour Mill

Naracoorte

R1 (5) Military Twostep
R1 (6) Mururoa

Randwick

R2 (1) Awol
R2 (2) Baronial
R2 (7) Pompeii Dancer
R2 (11) Torpedoes

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Wednesdays Results:

Cranbourne

R3 (8) Fuji Sunrise - 2nd, (Under $8)

Ipswich

R3 (2) Rumour Mill - 1st, (Under $8)

Naracoorte

R1 (5) Military Twostep - 2nd, (Under $8)
R1 (6) Mururoa - 1st, (Under $8)

Randwick

R2 (1) Awol - UNP, (Under $8)
R2 (2) Baronial - 2nd, (Under $8)
R2 (7) Pompeii Dancer - UNP, (Under $8)
R2 (11) Torpedoes - 1st, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Thursdays Seections:

Ballarat

R1 (1) Baudolino
R1 (7) Viracocha
R1 (12) Find An Oasis
R1 (13) Forest Voodoo
R2 (8) Short Hand
R4 (5) Mistanz
R4 (9) Tigara

Hawkesbury

R1 (10) Savings Are Golden
R4 (3) Rochambeau
R6 (6) Bosworth Field

Rockhampton

R3 (1) Balvain

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Thursdays Results:

Ballarat

R1 (1) Baudolino - UNP
R1 (7) Viracocha - 1st, (Under $8)
R1 (12) Find An Oasis - UNP
R1 (13) Forest Voodoo - UNP
R2 (8) Short Hand - UNP
R4 (5) Mistanz - 2nd, (Under $8)
R4 (9) Tigara - 1st, (Under $8)

Hawkesbury

R1 (10) Savings Are Golden - UNP, (Under $8)
R4 (3) Rochambeau - 2nd, (Under $8)
R6 (6) Bosworth Field - UNP, (Under $8)

Rockhampton

R3 (1) Balvain - UNP, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[TESTAROSSA]

Fridays Selections:

Doomben

R1 (1) Mr Benson
R2 (3) Luke Tomahawk
R4 (3) Strong Suit
R4 (8) Vacillate
R4 (14) Collo Rotonto

Muswellbrook

R2 (2) Black All Over
R2 (3) Bourbon Alley
R4 (8) Go Fil
R4 (9) Jaritha

Seymour

R1 (8) Possible Chance
R2 (4) Stolen Thunder

Cheers.

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[TESTAROSSA]

Fridays Results:

Doomben

R1 (1) Mr Benson - 1st, (Under $8)
R2 (3) Luke Tomahawk - 4th, (Under $8)
R4 (3) Strong Suit - 3rd, (Under $8)
R4 (8) Vacillate - UNP
R4 (14) Collo Rotonto - UNP

Muswellbrook

R2 (2) Black All Over - UNP
R2 (3) Bourbon Alley - 3rd, (Under $8)
R4 (8) Go Fil - 3rd, $2.60
R4 (9) Jaritha - UNP, (Under $8)

Seymour

R1 (8) Possible Chance - UNP
R2 (4) Stolen Thunder - 1st, (Under $8)

Cheers.

[watsonnek]

There's got to be many a safer way to invest :rolleyes:

[Chuck]

would you believe i was only looking at this (2004!!!) thread last week :eek: this system started off a ripper, i still think there could money to be made around this one :)

[Sportz]

Well, if we could bet on the races from 2004, yeah, I'm sure we could make some money. ;)

[Chuck]

oh sportznut you altruist :D

[pengo]

shutup you egomaniac ;)

[crash]

would you believe i was only looking at this (2004!!!) thread last week :eek: this system started off a ripper, i still think there could money to be made around this one :)

I agree Chuck, this system could still have legs. I think a major rule flaw though was the 'up to 10 starts'. Any horse that hasn't won it's maiden within 10 starts isn't getting my money as they have developed consistent form ... losing!

I think if the No. of starts was reduced to 5, the system would have less starters [needed] and better potential [?]

[Chuck]

shutup you egomaniac ;)

i wasn't the egomaniac, testarossa was!