Olympics betting

[sportznut]

I thought we could use this thread to talk about Olympic Games betting news and tips.

Here's a funny thing that I hadn't noticed until now. In the Olympic Baseball competition, can you believe there is actually no team from the U.S.A. No American team in the Baseball??? What the....? Australia has a good chance at the Bronze, but I don't think we can beat Cuba or Japan. Anyway, here are the odds from Centrebet:
CUBA 1.65
JAPAN 2.10
AUSTRALIA 13.00
CANADA 15.00
CHINESE TAIPEI 21.00
GREECE 26.00
ITALY 101.00
NETHERLANDS 101.00

The Americans are certainly involved in the Softball and they will probably win it. Again, Australia has a good chance of a medal. Here are the latest odds:
USA 1.20
JAPAN 5.00
AUSTRALIA 6.00
CHINA 16.00
CANADA 21.00
CHINESE TAIPEI 26.00
ITALY 151.00
GREECE 251.00


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[goldmember]

Listening to a member of the womens basketball this morning, and they are very confident of winning gold at athens, they are ranked no.3 in the world [have been for a while]and only have U.S.A and RUSSIA as their main opposition , so i think the $12 is pretty good value.

[sportznut]

How about $1.17 to finish in the top 4? It'll be tough to beat the U.S, but it's hard to see them not finishing in the top 4.

WOMEN'S BASKETBALL GOLD MEDAL:
USA 1.12
RUSSIA 10.00
AUSTRALIA 12.00
CZECH REPUBLIC 21.00
BRAZIL 26.00
KOREA 26.00
SPAIN 26.00
CHINA 31.00
JAPAN 251.00
GREECE 501.00
NIGERIA 1501.00
NEW ZEALAND 2501.00

AUSTRALIA'S FINISHING POSITION:
1st-4th 1.17
5th-8th 4.25
9th-12th 101.00



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[goldmember]

Yeah i was going to put it in but i didnt think that anyone would be interested in very short prices, like hackett at $1.02 in the 1500m

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[goldmember]

N.Z to finish 5th-8th @ $10 might be worth a token bet, dont know where their ranked, probably around 4th or so, sit back and watch them get rolled ! haha

[sportznut]

There's one interesting bet they could think about. Who's going to win more Golds, Michael Phelps or the entire Australian swimming team.

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[sportznut]

On 2004-08-05 18:58, goldmember wrote:
N.Z to finish 5th-8th @ $10 might be worth a token bet, dont know where their ranked, probably around 4th or so, sit back and watch them get rolled ! haha


Are you talking about Women's Basketball??? If NZ finish as high as 5th to 8th it would be a pretty big shock.

[goldmember]

Sorry sportz i remember now, thinking of the womens netball, their ok,not sure about the womens basketball, got them mixed up, my mistake, wipe that bet, might as well go out in the street and throw the money in the gutter!

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[moeee]

Does Australia have any chance of a medal in tiddlywinks?

[goldmember]

Australian gold medals U/O

UNDER 13.5 $1.80
OVER 13.5 $1.90

[sportznut]

Goldmember, the NZ Women's Basketball team DOES have a couple of Netballers in it. That's where the similarity ends.

[jakelee]

Women's Archery - Team Gold Medal
Korea @ $1.14.
They've won every gold since they started competing.

Men's Archery - Individual Gold Medal
Two Aussies here worth a punt.
Michele FRANGILLI,Italy @ $3
Dong Hyun IM,South Korea @ $3
Kyung-Mo PARK,South Korea @ $6
David BARNES,Australia @ $8 *
...
Simon FAIRWEATHER,Australia @ $51

Barnes has been shooting very well, and got knocked out of the preliminary tornament by the eventual winner (Dong Hyun IM).

Fairweather won gold in Sydney, but his shooting has dropped off recently, and he's coming back after a lay-off. But $51 seems pretty good.

[jakelee]

Hey guys,

What about most gold medals?

Only 3 real choices:

USA $1.28
Russia $3.85
China $8.00

Big improvement for the Russians and the Chinese over last 8 years. Plus this time, Greece is closer for Russia and China, and they can afford to send more athletes (I don't think the cost will affect the Americans). With both the Russians and the Chinese competing harder, it should make it closer all-around, and we might see the Russians pip the USA. But I'd want to see more than $3.85... I'd take $5.00+. So at these odds, USA looks the best.

Previous totals
2000 G S B T
1 United States of America 40 24 33 97
2 Russian Federation 32 28 28 88
3 China 28 16 15 59
4 Australia 16 25 17 58

1996
1 United States 44 32 25 101
2 Russia 26 21 16 63
3 Germany 20 18 27 65
4 China 16 22 12 50

1992
1 Unified Team (ex USSR) EUN 45 38 29
2 United States of America USA 37 34 37
3 Germany GER 33 21 28
4 China CHN 16 22 16

1988
1 USSR 55 31 46
2 German GDR 37 35 30
3 United States of America USA 36 31 27
4 Korea KOR 12 10 11

1984 (Russan Boycott)
1 United States of America USA 83 61 30
2 Romania ROM 20 16 17
3 Federal Republic of Germany 17 19 23
4 China 15 8 9

[sportznut]

Barring a heap of their athletes failing drug tests, the U.S will probably come out on top.

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[sportznut]

Swimming betting from Centrebet:

MEN
~~~~~~~~~~
50m FREESTYLE:
HALL Jnr, Gary (USA) 3.00
LEZAK, Jason (USA) 4.25
SCHOEMAN, Roland (RSA) 4.50
VAN DEN HOOGENBAND, Pieter (NED) 4.50
POPOV, Alexander (RUS) 6.00

100m FREESTYLE:
VAN DEN HOOGENBAND, Pieter (NED) 1.80
LEZAK, Jason (USA) 2.85
POPOV, Alexander (RUS) 6.50
CROCKER, Ian (USA) 13.00
THORPE, Ian (AUS) 13.00

200m FREESTYLE:
THORPE, Ian (AUS) 1.50
PHELPS, Michael (USA) 3.00
VAN DEN HOOGENBAND, Pieter (NED) 6.00
HACKETT, Grant (AUS) 9.00

400m FREESTYLE:
THORPE, Ian (AUS) 1.20
HACKETT, Grant (AUS) 4.00
KELLER, Klete (USA) 9.00

1500m FREESTYLE:
HACKETT, Grant (AUS) 1.02
JENSEN, Larsen (USA) 8.00

100m BUTTERFLY:
CROCKER, Ian (USA) 1.50
PHELPS, Michael (USA) 2.50
HUEGILL, Geoffry (AUS) 11.00

200m BUTTERFLY:
PHELPS, Michael (USA) 1.01

100m BREASTSTROKE:
HANSEN, Brendan (USA) 1.08
KITAJIMA, Kosuke (JPN) 6.00
MEW, Darren (ENG) 11.00

200m BREASTSTROKE:
HANSEN, Brendan (USA) 1.18
KITAJIMA, Kosuke (JPN) 4.50
PIPER, Jim (AUS) 10.00
USHER, Scott (USA) 10.00

100m BACKSTROKE:
PEIRSOL, Aaron (USA) 1.10
KRAYZELBURG, Lenny (USA) 6.00
WELSH, Matthew (AUS) 6.00

200m BACKSTROKE:
PEIRSOL, Aaron (USA) 1.01

200m IND MEDLEY:
PHELPS, Michael (USA) 1.01

400m IND MEDLEY:
PHELPS, Michael (USA) 1.01

4x100m FREESTYLE RELAY:
USA 1.45
AUSTRALIA 4.00
ITALY 4.25
SOUTH AFRICA 10.00

4x200m FREESTYLE RELAY:
AUSTRALIA 1.55
USA 2.75
ITALY 6.00

4x100m MEDLEY RELAY:
USA 1.05
AUSTRALIA 4.50

WOMEN
~~~~~~~~~~
50m FREESTYLE:
De BRUIJN, Inge (NED) 1.90
LENTON, Lisbeth (AUS) 2.50
ENGELSMAN, Michelle (AUS) 4.50

100m FREESTYLE:
LENTON, Lisbeth (AUS) 1.90
De BRUIJN, Inge (NED) 2.75
HENRY, Jodie (AUS) 3.50

200m FREESTYLE:
MARSHALL, Melanie (GBR) 4.25
JEDRZEJCZAK, Otylia (POL) 4.50
BENKO, Lindsay (USA) 6.50
POLL, Claudia (CRC) 6.50
VAN ALMSICK, Franziska (GER) 6.50
XU, Yanwei (CHN) 7.00

400m FREESTYLE:
STOCKBAUER, Hannah (GER) 3.00
POTEC, Camelia (ROM) 4.25
YAMADA, Sachiko (JPN) 5.00
RISZTOV, Eva (HUN) 8.00
JEDRZEJCZAK, Otylia (POL) 8.00

800m FREESTYLE:
YAMADA, Sachiko (JPN) 1.80
MUNZ, Diana (USA) 4.50
KELLER, Kalyn (USA) 5.50
STOCKBAUER, Hannah (GER) 5.50

100m BUTTERFLY:
THOMAS, Petria (AUS) 1.70
De BRUIJN, Inge (NED) 2.75
MORAVCOVA, Martina (SLO) 4.50

200m BUTTERFLY:
JEDRZEJCZAK, Otylia (POL) 1.60
THOMAS, Petria (AUS) 2.10

100m BREASTSTROKE:
JONES, Leisel (AUS) 2.10
HANSON, Brooke (AUS) 3.50
BEARD, Amanda (USA) 5.00
KIRK, Tara (USA) 7.00
LUO, Xuejuan (CHN) 9.00

200m BREASTSTROKE:
BEARD, Amanda (USA) 1.70
JONES, Leisel (AUS) 2.00
QI, Hui (CHN) 9.00
HANSON, Brooke (AUS) 17.00

100m BACKSTROKE:
COUGHLIN, Natalie (USA) 1.02

200m BACKSTROKE:
KOMAROVA, Stanislava (RUS) 2.00
NAKAMURA, Reiko (JPN) 2.50
SEXTON, Katy (ENG) 7.00
TERAKAWA, Aya (JPN) 7.50

200m IND MEDLEY:
KLOCHKOVA, Yana (UKR) 2.10
BEARD, Amanda (USA) 2.20
HOFF, Kathryn (USA) 6.00
MILLS, Alice (AUS) 9.00

400m IND MEDLEY:
KLOCHKOVA, Yana (UKR) 1.70
HOFF, Kathryn (USA) 2.00

4x100m FREESTYLE RELAY:
AUSTRALIA 2.00
GERMANY 3.50
USA 3.50

4x200m FREESTYLE RELAY:
AUSTRALIA 2.50
GREAT BRITAIN 2.50
USA 3.00
GERMANY 8.00

4x100m MEDLEY RELAY:
USA 1.50
AUSTRALIA 2.50


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[Paddy]

AUSTRALIAN GOLD MEDAL TALLY

13 OR 14 GOLD MEDALS $4.00
11 OR 12 GOLD MEDALS $4.25
9 OR 10 GOLD MEDALS $5.00
15 OR 16 GOLD MEDALS $5.50
17 OR 18 GOLD MEDALS $7.50
7 OR 8 GOLD MEDALS $8.50
25 GOLD MEDALS OR MORE $11.00
19 OR 20 GOLD MEDALS $12.00
5 OR 6 GOLD MEDALS $14.00
21 OR 22 GOLD MEDALS $15.00
4 GOLD MEDALS OR LESS $16.00
23 OR 24 GOLD MEDALS $21.00

[Paddy]

AUSTRALIAN (ALL) MEDAL TALLY

AUST WIN 41-45 MEDALS $6.00
AUST WIN 46-48 MEDALS $7.00
AUST WIN 49-51 MEDALS $7.00
AUST WIN 30 MEDALS OR LESS $8.00
AUST WIN 36-40 MEDALS $8.00
AUST WIN 52-54 MEDALS $8.00
AUST WIN 55-57 MEDALS $8.00
AUST WIN 31-35 MEDALS $10.00
AUST WIN 58-60 MEDALS $10.00
AUST WIN 86 MEDALS OR MORE $11.00
AUST WIN 61-63 MEDALS $13.00
AUST WIN 64-66 MEDALS $15.00
AUST WIN 67-70 MEDALS $18.00
AUST WIN 71-75 MEDALS $21.00
AUST WIN 76-80 MEDALS $26.00
AUST WIN 81-85 MEDALS $31.00

[Paddy]

HOCKEY WOMENS GOLD MEDAL

AUSTRALIA $3.00
ARGENTINA $3.50
NETHERLANDS $3.85
CHINA $5.00
GERMANY $15.00
KOREA $17.00
SPAIN $21.00
NEW ZEALAND $41.00
JAPAN $51.00
SOUTH AFRICA $101.00

[Paddy]

HOCKEY MENS GOLD MEDAL

GERMANY $3.00
NETHERLANDS $3.00
AUSTRALIA $3.50
PAKISTAN $7.00
INDIA $17.00
KOREA $17.00
SPAIN $21.00
ARGENTINA $21.00
GREAT BRITAIN $61.00
NEW ZEALAND $201.00
EGYPT $501.00
SOUTH AFRICA $501.00

[Paddy]

MENS SOCCER GOLD MEDAL

ARGENTINA $3.75
ITALY $5.50
PARAGUAY $7.00
PORTUGAL $7.50
GREECE $9.00
TUNISIA $14.00
GHANA $15.00
MEXICO $15.00
SERBIA & MONTENEGRO $17.00
JAPAN $26.00
MALI $26.00
MOROCCO $26.00
COSTA RICO $26.00
AUSTRALIA $26.00
KOREA $35.00
IRAQ $101.00

[Paddy]

MENS BASKETBALL GOLD

USA $1.33
LITHUANIA $7.00
ARGENTINA $9.00
SERBIA/MONTENEGRO $10.00
SPAIN $12.00
GREECE $21.00
ITALY $31.00
AUSTRALIA $61.00
CHINA $71.00
PUERTO RICO $101.00
NEW ZEALAND $401.00
ANGOLA $501.00

[goldmember]

NZ gold medals u/o 3.5

under 3.5 $1.55
over 3.5 $2.30

Wonder what mdeals they could possibly win ?

[sportznut]

In Cycling, Triathlon, Rowing, Kayaking and Equestrian, Goldmember.

Sarah Ulmer will be favourite to win Gold in the individual pursuit in Women's cycling. Also, Bevan Docherty is a top chance for the Men's triathlon as are the Evers-Swindell twins in the Double sculls in the Rowing. Ben Fouhy also has a shot at a possible two gold medals in the Kayaking. And NZ is also likely to be Australia's biggest threat as we try to win the Eventing gold medal for the 4th Olympics in a row.

So they do have a few good chances. i may possibly have missed someone else too.

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[goldmember]

so do you think over is a good bet or have they got it right at under 3.5 @$1.55

[sportznut]

Well, at first glance, $2.30 doesn't sound too bad for over, but usually the bookies seem to be pretty close to the mark with these things. If the bet was under or over 2.5 golds, I'd say go with over, but at 3.5, I'm not so sure.

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[Desi]

Sports,
Predictions for NZ chances of gold suggest that they have 3 excellent chances of achieving the ultimate in rowing (womens pairs are favourites) canoe (single sculls) and Sarah Ulmer (world champion) NZs top cycliste...usually do well in yachting and have some chance in triathlons and other canoe and rowing events I think...but who knows?

[moeee]

Sportsnut.How do you find time to do up your shoelaces?
Or you don't?

[mug punta]

The best value is for the American Men's basketball team to get rolled. They are odds on and have been in terrible form in the lead up comps. I think they finished 5th or 6th recently. They are no longer the Dream Team with the best NBA players not going to Greece and are a great lay

[rabbitz]

is that because of their dick size

[beberrycareful]

On 2004-08-12 12:01, sportznut wrote:
Well, at first glance, $2.30 doesn't sound too bad for over, but usually the bookies seem to be pretty close to the mark with these things. If the bet was under or over 2.5 golds, I'd say go with over, but at 3.5, I'm not so sure.



:???:

[sportznut]

I'm fairly confident that NZ can win 3 gold medals, but not so confident they can win more than 3. So, if Centrebet was offering a bet of over or under 2.5 gold medals, I'd say bet on over. However their bet is over or under 3.5 gold medals and I'm not so sure about that.

[mug punta]

On 2004-08-12 23:10, rabbitz wrote:
is that because of their dick size

Well rabbitz, they do say once you have black, you never go back so you may be right.

[goldmember]

http://www.athens2004.com
has all the info you need

[goldmember]

Watched a replay of the womens volleyball yesterday and the team of walsh/may from the USA looked vey good and are rated a top chance of gold in athens,looked at the prices and was surprised to see their $10 to win,behind BRAZIL, CHINA and CUBA.

[Paddy]

MENS-CYCLING ROAD RACE 14/8

BETTINI Paolo (Italy) $8.00
OGRADY Stuart (Australia) $8.00
ULLRICH Jan (Germany) $10.00
VINOKOUROV Alexandre (Kaz) $10.00
VALVERDE Alejandro (Spain) $10.00
HUSHOVD Thor (Norway) $12.00
McEWAN Robbie (Australia) $14.00
FREIRE Oscar (Spain) $17.00
VAN PETEGEM Peter (Belg) $17.00
ZABEL Erik (Germany) $21.00
KLODEN Andreas (Germany) $26.00
VAN HEESWIJK Max (Nether) $31.00
ASTARLOA Igor (Spain) $31.00
BOOGERD Michael (Nether) $31.00
DEKKER Erik (Netherlands) $31.00
BROCHARD Laurent (France) $41.00
HINCAPIE George (USA) $41.00
KNAVEN Servais (Netherlands) $41.00
VOIGT Jens (Germany) $41.00
BACKSTEDT Magnus (Sweden) $51.00
COOKE Baden (Australia) $51.00
HAMILTON Tyler (USA) $51.00
MOREAU Christophe (France) $51.00
RASMUSSEN Michael (Denmark) $51.00
KIRSIPUU Jaan (Estonia) $51.00
TOTSCHNIG George (Austria) $61.00
CHAVANEL Sylvain (France) $61.00
KIRCHEN Kim (Luxembourg) $61.00
POZZATO Filippo (Italy) $61.00
ARVESEN Kurt-Asle (Norway) $61.00
GLOMSER Gerrit (Austria) $81.00
GONZALES GALDEANO Igor (Sp) $81.00
MERCKX Axel (Belgium) $81.00
ROGERS Michael (Australia) $81.00
VAINSTEINS Romans (Latvia) $81.00
VOECKLER Thomas (France) $81.00
BODROGL Laszlo (Hungary) $81.00
HAUPTMAN Andrej (Slovenia) $81.00
HOJ Frank (Denmark) $81.00
TOMBAK Janek (Estonia) $81.00
VALJAVEC Tadej (Slovak) $81.00
DEAN Julian (NZ) $101.00
MORENI Cristian (Italy) $101.00
WHITE Matthew (Australia) $151.00

[Paddy]

MENS-CYCLING ROAD RACE 14/8

Spain reported to have a very strong team, with three riders (Valverde 9/1, Astarloa 30/1, Freire 16/1) all capable of winning.

Italy also a strong squad, with team captain Paolo Bettini (7/1) probably the World's #1 single day rider based on his two consecutive World Cup titles.

Defending Olympic champion Jan Ullrich (9/1) of Germany has a strong team behind him as well.

Alexandre Vinokourov 9/1 (Kazakhstan) is determined to better his 2000 Olympics silver medal.

With Stuart O'Grady (7/1) and Robbie McEwen (13/1) at the start, Australia could deliver a medal.

Belgium also has a decent team with the crafty, experienced Van Petegem (16/1) and an in-form Axel Merckx (80/1!).

Dutch dangerman Erik Dekker (30/1!) certainly has the ability to win, and his form has improved after the Tour De France.

Both Norwegian riders Thor Hushovd (11/1) and recent Tour of Denmark winner Kurt-Asle Arvesen (60/1!) are also strong riders.

George Hincapie - USA (40/1) is always a danger man in a high-stakes one day race.



_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!



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[moeee]

Throwing all the form study in the wheelie bin for a while and want to have a play with Olympics betting.
Someone point me to where I can get an itinary as to what event is next on the card and what time it's run?

[sportznut]

Okay, hope this helps Mo.

Go to http://www.athens2004.com/en/results/results
Where you see an 'F' that means a Final, and a gold medal will be decided. Click on those boxes and you'll get the Greek times. Simply add 7 hours to get Australian time.

Another idea is to look at the TAB Sportsbet site, because they tell you which major events are coming up in the next couple of days and what time you have to get your bets on by.

A couple of things you might find helpful with betting on some of the big events:
2004 Swimming world rankings:
http://www.fina.org/wranklcmfront.html
2004 Athletics world rankings:
http://www.iaaf.org/worldrankings/index.html


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[sportznut]

The Swimming went pretty much how I thought it would last night, with world records to Phelps and also our women's relay team. I was really disappointed with Thorpe's 400 swim though and his odds should definitely have gone out for the 200. Phelps, Hackett and Van Den Hoogenband will be more confident after seeing that. After last night's semi-finals, it also looks like it will be a tough ask for Petria Thomas to beat De Bruijn in the 100 fly tonight.

Tomorrow:
Best Bet - USA in the Men's 4x100 Freestyle Relay at $1.40. Barring disqualification, they're pretty much certainties.
Best Roughie - Kaitlin Sandeno in the Women's 400 Freestyle at $23.00. She took a huge slice off her PB in the medley last night and if she makes a similar type of improvement here, those odds are far too big. The favourite Hannah Stockbauer will probably be the one to beat though.


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[goldmember]

Think thorpedo wont have too much trouble in the 200,he looked to struggle the last bit,will be too strong tonight,my eyes wont open just yet after watching 7 games of football and then the swimming until 4.30 i,m starting to feel the pinch,setting the alarm for 2.40 am so i wont miss thorpe blow them away,NO one can beat phelps in a medley he's too brilliant.

[sportznut]

Hope you're right Goldmember. I must admit I didn't like his 400 swim at all. He was 3 seconds outside his world record and he just didn't look like the Ian Thorpe we're used to.

[Paddy]

MENS-CYCLING ROAD RACE 14/8


Paolo BETTINI - Italy - Gold
Sergio PAULINHO - Portugal - Silver
Axel MERCKX - Belgium - Bronze

[Paddy]

SOFTBALL USA-AUSTRALIA 15/8

USA $1.16
AUSTRALIA $4.50




MENS-HOCKEY AUSTRALIA-NZ 15/8

AUSTRALIA $1.15
DRAW $6.00
NEW ZEALAND $11.00

[Paddy]

MENS-HOCKEY AUSTRALIA-NZ 15/8


Australia 4 defeated NZ 1

[sportznut]

Well, Ian Thorpe did look a bit better in the heats of the 200 freestyle today.

[goldmember]

seen apoll on who people think will win the 200m freestyle:
THORPE 73%
PHELPS 10%
HACKETT 8%
VAN HOOGENBAND 8%
OTHER 1 %

just goes to show there are some people havent got a clue!

[sportznut]

On 2004-08-15 10:19, sportznut wrote:
The favourite Hannah Stockbauer will probably be the one to beat though.


Well, so much for that. I can sure stop 'em!!! :roll:

[sportznut]

Geez, the South Africans have nearly broken the world record in the heat of the 4x100 relay. I knew they had a good team, but I didn't think they were that damn good!!! Just forget what I said about the USA being certainties tonight.

Think I'd better quit giving tips.

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[mug punta]

Did the Yanks have their a team swimming? i assume the sth africans must have to have swam that time

[goldmember]

SOUTH AFRICA beat the USA the heats of the relay,maybe there could be another upset in the morning, AUSTRALIA came home stong in their heat but some legs were dissapointing and RUSSIA is a chance

[sportznut]

No, the U.S didn't have their best team in and they will definitely improve a fair bit. They're going to have to though. I'm pretty certain the World Record will go.

South Africa have 2 of the 3 fastest swimmers in the world this year, but nobody really thought their other swimmers were quite good enough to match it with the USA who have 4 of the top 10. Looks like maybe they are!

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[goldmember]

Do you think the aussies can place as i can see it a big ask for them to win,i'll be cheering them on and i might get to have a sleep next sunday

[sportzRus]

Sure can!

[sportznut]

At this stage, I reckon it's a definite two horse race for gold between USA and South Africa with Australia, Russia, Italy and the Netherlands all battling for the bronze. I'm not confident at the moment, but if Australia is any chance when Thorpe gets in the pool, he'll probably get them home for a medal because he's such a great finisher.

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[moeee]

On 2004-08-15 18:02, goldmember wrote:
seen apoll on who people think will win the 200m freestyle:
THORPE 73%
PHELPS 10%
HACKETT 8%
VAN HOOGENBAND 8%
OTHER 1 %

just goes to show there are some people havent got a clue!


And which people might they be,Goldmember?

[rabbitz]

I heard that primo and czar made up the 1%
cheers

[goldmember]

The 1 %, same people would probably pick PHAR LAP to win this years melbourne cup!

[horsewithnoname]

On 2004-08-15 20:00, rabbitz wrote:
I heard that primo and czar made up the 1%
cheers


Funee Bro!

[goldmember]

Only 2 swimming finals on in the morning:

3.51 a.m womens 400m freestyle final
4.00 a.m mens 4 x 100m relay final

might have an early night so i can get up and see them.

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[moeee]

On 2004-08-15 20:02, horsewithnoname wrote:

On 2004-08-15 20:00, rabbitz wrote:
I heard that primo and czar made up the 1%
cheers


Funee Bro!



I don't get how you get what Rabbitz means.

[sportznut]

Just had a look at the teams and the splits from the heats. The USA went without their 3 fastest swimmers in the heat and they can probably improve dramatically tonight. Their 1st leg was a disappointing 49.93. Jason Lezak will probably do at least 1 1/2 seconds better than that for a start, and with the addition of Crocker and Phelps, I'm almost certain the US will break the world record. The only question is how fast can the South africans go?

[moeee]

On 2004-08-15 20:02, goldmember wrote:
The 1 %, same people would probably pick PHAR LAP to win this years melbourne cup!


We've all got mums Goldmember.

[goldmember]

I know, sorry about that,they probably believe in the easter bunny and the tooth fairy.

[sportznut]

On 2004-08-15 20:07, goldmember wrote:
Only 2 swimming finals on in the morning:
3.51 a.m womens 400m freestyle final
4.00 a.m mens 4 x 100m relay final


That's not right Goldmember. There's also:
2.57 a.m Women's 100m Butterfly Final
3.04 a.m Men's 100m Breaststroke Final

[goldmember]

Just went off what they had on ch 7, looks like i'll be getting up a lot earlier, thanks sportz.

[sportznut]

Never rely on Channel 7. Use this website:
http://www.athens2004.com/

Click on the sport you want on the right side of the screen, then scroll down to the day you want and ALL the events and results are there. You just have to remember to add 7 hours for Australian time.

[Geez]

or 5 for over here.

[goldmember]

Yeah i found that site a few days ago[ i posted it just before you ,hehe ]but it was easier to watch the telly.

[Happychap]

On 2004-08-15 20:26, sportznut wrote:
Never rely on Channel 7. Use this website:
http://www.athens2004.com/

Click on the sport you want on the right side of the screen, then scroll down to the day you want and ALL the events and results are there. You just have to remember to add 7 hours for Australian time.



Australian time? when did that happen?

[sportznut]

Geez, I'm sorry Geez. :smile:

Yeah, +5 hours for WA.

[moeee]

I like watching my money go round.
Where can I find out which events are live on free to air TV.
I don't got a TV WEEK.

[sportznut]

What do you mean Mo? It's all on Free To Air. Basically, all of the 'most popular' sports for Australian fans will be on Channel 7, and SBS is showing a lot of the rest. I just watched a Women's Beach Volleyball game on SBS between the Netherlands and some other country. I can't remember which. Didn't care one bit about the result, but it sure was good to watch!!! :eek:

[sportznut]

Basically all the major Olympic events like Swimming, Athletics etc will be shown live on 7, so if you use that website I mentioned earlier that'll tell you when they're on. If you can't watch them in the middle of the night, they replay all the finals at 7 am I think.

[moeee]

Like this.
If I know that in half an hours time SBS will be showing a Palestine versus Israel boxing match,I would like to race off and put a bet on so I can watch my money go round.No good betting on a Volley ball match being played at the same time,if they're not showing it.
Bit like Saturday nights AFL.I preferred to place a bet on the Port game rather than the Melbourne game because it was on live.
I'll try Googling up SBS.

[goldmember]

same here, i watched the port game live on fox[plus 3 nrl games] and the swans game on 10 at the same time through a open door.

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[sportznut]

Centrebet is betting on a lot, but I think even they would shy at betting on some of the events SBS are showing. One thing though. On SBS, you'll get the whole event, whereas on Channel 7 they cut back and forth between about half a dozen sports.

[sportznut]

On 2004-08-15 21:20, goldmember wrote:
i watched the port game live on fox[plus 3 nrl games] and the swans game on 10 at the same time through a open door.


I don't have pay tv, so I watched none of them. Come Sunday morning, aren't you all footballed out Goldmember??? :smile:

[moeee]

Found some pdf file of what SBS is showing.
Womens cycling at 10 pm tonight.Backed the Pommie sheila.
Might have to consider chasing up Gamblerholics anonymous.This is getting out of hand.:oops:

[sportznut]

Mo, I do know that the Women's road race is on SBS at 10 o'clock. I'm not quite up with the form, but Australian Oenone Wood does have some sort of chance in that event. Here are the leading contenders from Centrebet:
LJUNGSKOG, Susanne (SWE) 4.50
COOKE, Nicole (GBR) 5.00
ARNDT, Judith (GER) 7.00
MELCHERS, Mirjam (NED) 7.00
ZIJLAARD van MOORSEL, Leontien (NED) 7.00
ZABIROVA, Zoulfia (RUS) 9.00
VALEN, Anita (NOR) 11.00
WOOD, Oenone (AUS) 11.00
BRODTKA, Angela (GER) 12.00
PUCINSKAITE, Edita (LTU) 13.00
WORRACK, Trixi (GER) 13.00
DEMET-BARRY, Deirdre (USA) 15.00
BESSETTE, Lyne (CAN) 17.00
LONGO-CIPRELLI, Jeannie (FRA) 26.00

[sportznut]

Oh, beat me to it.

[sportznut]

By the way, the name Oenone apparently means 'wood nymph' in greek!

[mug punta]

On 2004-08-15 21:39, moeee wrote:
Found some pdf file of what SBS is showing.
Womens cycling at 10 pm tonight.Backed the Pommie sheila.
Might have to consider chasing up Gamblerholics anonymous.This is getting out of hand.:oops:

Dont stress out moeee. I reckon ill be there with you

[sportznut]

Okay guys, is there anyone at the Olympics you want to see get beaten. Just tell me who they are and I'll tip them and bet on them!!! Can I stop 'em or what? :roll:

[sportznut]

Geez, I've just seen that the Aussie girl Sara Carrigan won the Road Race. You beauty! She wasn't really expected to figure I don't think. She was long odds in the betting.

[sportznut]

I wish I had gone with my hunch from earlier in the week and had a bet on the South Africans in the relay at $13. Instead, I just had a small bet on them at $2.75 last night to get back some of the money I bet on the USA.

Having said all that, it sure is good to see the americans get beaten in one event they would have marked down for victory. The 100 freestyle is interesting now. Schoeman and Neethling must both stand a chance. My longshot tip of Kaitlin Sandeno swam a good third in the 400 free. So close. Oh well, never mind.

Great to see that Petria won! :grin:

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[Paddy]

SOFTBALL USA-AUSTRALIA 15/8


As the betting suggested easy win to the USA 10-0

[Paddy]

MENS 200M FREESTYLE FINAL 16/8

THORPE Ian $1.68
VAN DEN HOOGENBAND Pieter $3.00
PHELPS Michael $4.00
HACKETT Grant $17.00
KELLER Kiete $51.00
BREMBILLA Emiliano $126.00
SAY Rick $151.00
BURNETT S $151.00

[Paddy]

WOMENS 100M BACKSTROKE FINAL 16/8

COUGHLIN Natalie $1.02
MANAUDOU Laure $8.00
BUSCHSCHULTE Antje $14.00
NAKAMURA Reiko $26.00
COPE Hayley $41.00
OERNSTEDT Louise $51.00
ZHIVANEVSKAYA Nina $81.00
COVENTRY Kirsty $101.00

No Aussies :sad:

Betting suggests that Natalie COUGHLIN (USA) is over the line, but will she set a new world record? Current record 59.58 set by Natalie 2 years ago.

_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!



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[Paddy]

MENS 200M FREESTYLE FINAL - QUINELLA 16/8

THORPE-VAN Den HOOGENBAND $2.30
THORPE-PHELPS $2.50
VAN Den HOOGENBAND-PHELPS $5.00
THORPE-HACKETT $10.00
VAN Den HOOGENBAND-HACKETT $14.00
PHELPS-HACKETT $17.00
THORPE-ANY UNLISTED SWIMMER $26.00
VAN HOOGENBAND-ANY UNLIST SW $61.00
PHELPS-ANY UNLISTED SWIMMWER $101.00
HACKETT-ANY UNLISTED SWIMMER $151.00
ANY UNLISTED COMBINATION $251.00

[Paddy]

WOMENS 100M BREASTSTROKE FINAL 16/8

JONES Leisel (AUS) $1.25
HANSON Brooke (AUS) $5.00
KIRK Tara $8.50
POEWE Sarah $13.00
BEARD Amanda $16.00
LUO Xuejuan $51.00
QI Hui $101.00
BONDARENKO Svitlana $101.00

On form Leisel JONES obviously the one to beat and could better her own world record of 1:06.37 set last year.

[Paddy]

MENS 100M BACKSTROKE FINAL 16/8

PEIRSOL Aaron $1.35
ROGAN Markus $6.00
KRAYZELBURG Lenny $8.00
WELSH Matthew (AUS) $10.00
MORITA Tomomi $10.00
DRIESEN Steffen $26.00
CSEH Laszlo $81.00
DI CARLI Marco $101.00

PEIRSOL & WELSH have both gone under 54secs in recent times. Current Olympic (53.72) & world (53.60) record holder Lenny KRAYZELBURG best recent time 54.06.

[Paddy]

GAMES TENNIS - PHILIPPOUSSIS Vs ROCHUS 16/8

PHILIPPOUSSIS Mark $1.42
ROCHUS Olivier $2.65


Oli 5'5" Vs the Scud 6'4"
Should make for an interesting battle.

From memory Rochus defeated Mark Philippoussis last meeting back in March this year.


_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!



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[goldmember]

MENS 200M FREESTLE FINAL

Before the semi final

THORPE $1.45
PHELPS $3.50
VANHOOGENBAND $6.00
HACKETT $7.00

After the semi final

THORPE $1.60
VANHOOGENBAND $2.60
PHELPS $7.50
HACKETT $26.00

Saw thorpe's semifinal and he looked good but i missed hoogenbands,he must have done something special,still sticking with thorpe though.

having a little multi: @ $2.66

I THORPE
L.JONES
A.PEIRSOL [PTP]

[sportznut]

I didn't see Van Den Hoogenband either but 1:46.00 is damn good in a semi-final and his swim in the relay was nothing short of amazing! 46.79 secs!!! Even given the advantage of about .6 secs for a relay start, that still equates to a time that would have smashed his own 100m world record. He'll definitely be out in front tonight. It's just a matter of whether Thorpe, or even Phelps or Hackett can get him down. I don't think Hackett can win, so it's between the other three.

[goldmember]

Thought THORPE had PHELPS measure cruising to the line and i know vanhoogenband will lead, but he needs a decent lead to hold on, think the 200m is thorpes best dist now,not the 400m, i'm discounting the relay swim as thorpe was well back and the 100m isnt his best swim.

[sportznut]

When I looked at the relay splits from last night I was amazed at the first leg from the USA. Basically, Ian Crocker had a 'Barry Crocker'. 50.05 secs compared to Schoeman from South Africa 48.17. That gap was way too much to make up.

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[mug punta]

Hate to say it but reckon Hoogie looks a good thing and the $2.60 is amazing value. I just can't see hom reling him in.
I suugest if your alive in ur treble Goldmember you save on Rogan. His semi swim was very,very close to Piersol

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[sportznut]

Yeah, I agree. I'm worried about the 200 too. I reckon he's going to be a fair way in front at the 100 and I'm just not confident that Thorpe's form is good enough to wear him down. I really hope you're right though Goldmember.

[sportznut]

These are the odds from TAB Sportsbet at the moment:

THORPE $1.60
VAN DEN HOOGENBAND $2.75
PHELPS $5.00
HACKETT $21.00

[sportznut]

Also worried about Liesel Jones. She IS the fastest swimmer in the race, but she has a habit of disappointing in big finals. Hope she puts it all together tonight.

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[goldmember]

Not this time, she is really focused on this event and will be too good for this field,hope hanson can fill 2nd spot,that would be great,cant see quinella betting on sportstab which is dissapointing,so the 1500m will be just a watcher with hackett @$1.01

[goldmember]

Sportz, could you PLEASE PLEASE have $1 on MAURICE GREENE to stop him,he is USA afterall

Ultimate
Smart
Arse

[sportznut]

Yeah, that'll stop the big GOAT! :smile:

[sportznut]

Do you think anyone else knows what we're referring to?

[goldmember]

You mean GOAT, yeah i think everybody has heard his mouth being the Greatest Of All Time, but then i didnt find out till later that he has a tattoo with the spaces inbetween spelling goat,thought that was over the top

[sportznut]

Not quite sure who I hate more, the American sprinters or the so called 'Dream Team'.

[goldmember]

I think you have to go with the sprinters,because the dream team is a nightmare at the moment.

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[mug punta]

It is a funny phenomena how if your watching an event and it becomes clear that an Aussie can't win, you barrack for the rest of the world to beat a Yank. They are fairly unlikeable. A bit like when you're in the tote and theres always 1 loudmouth carrying on and shouting for his horse which is usually racing in another state and you just pray that he gets beaten,prefferably in a tight photo.

[sportznut]

That's so true!!! :smile:

[sportznut]

Well done Thorpey. I haven't seen the race yet, but judging by the splits, Van Den Hoogenband certainly wasn't far enough ahead coming to the last 50. Looks like Ian swam a great race and had things pretty much under control the whole way.

Another minor medal to Liesel Jones. Unfortunately that's becoming a regular thing. She just doesn't seem to be able to swim her best when it comes to finals.

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[Mr J]

Big payoff on the chinese girl. Yep sportz I'm still up, Olympics are a great opportunity to make money :wink:

[sportznut]

Yeah, I couldn't believe the odds yesterday. Luo has a very good record and shouldn't have been so long in the betting. I don't want to use that nasty sporting term that I'm thinking of to describe Liesel, but unfortunately it fits. In major events, she always seems to swim faster in heats and semis than she does in the final.

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[mug punta]

Well done thorpey!!! Without doubt our greatest Olympian of all time.
Well done Mr.J for finding the chinese swimmer. You must really do your homework well.

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-16 15:44, Paddy wrote:
GAMES TENNIS - PHILIPPOUSSIS Vs ROCHUS 16/8

PHILIPPOUSSIS Mark $1.42
ROCHUS Olivier $2.65


Oli 5'5" Vs the Scud 6'4"
Should make for an interesting battle.

From memory Rochus defeated Mark Philippoussis last meeting back in March this year.


_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!



Philippoussis defeated by Rochus 3-6, 6-0, 6-1. Press are saying shock defeat :smile:

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-16 12:50, Paddy wrote:
WOMENS 100M BACKSTROKE FINAL 16/8
COUGHLIN Natalie $1.02
MANAUDOU Laure $8.00
BUSCHSCHULTE Antje $14.00
NAKAMURA Reiko $26.00
COPE Hayley $41.00
OERNSTEDT Louise $51.00
ZHIVANEVSKAYA Nina $81.00
COVENTRY Kirsty $101.00
No Aussies :sad:
Betting suggests that Natalie COUGHLIN (USA) is over the line, but will she set a new world record? Current record 59.58 set by Natalie 2 years ago.


Natalie COUGHLIN takes out gold in relatively slow time (for Coughlin) of 1:00:37 from outsider (in betting) Kirsty COVENTRY.

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-16 12:42, Paddy wrote:
MENS 200M FREESTYLE FINAL 16/8

THORPE Ian $1.68
VAN DEN HOOGENBAND Pieter $3.00
PHELPS Michael $4.00
HACKETT Grant $17.00
KELLER Kiete $51.00
BREMBILLA Emiliano $126.00
SAY Rick $151.00
BURNETT S $151.00



Ian THORPE GOLD
Pieter VAN DEN HOOGENBAND SILVER
Michael PHELPS BRONZE
Grant HACKETT 5TH

[Paddy]

MENS 4X200 FREESTYLE RELAY FINAL (PRE HEATS prices)

AUSTRALIA $1.28
USA $3.20
ITALY $11.00
GERMANY $35.00
RUSSIA $35.00
FRANCE $81.00
GREAT BRITAIN $101.00
CANADA $101.00
GREECE $101.00

[Paddy]

Current Medal Standing

Australia 6 x GOLD 2 x SILVER 5 x BRONZE

CHINA leading 10 x GOLD 4 x SILVER 1 x BRONZE

Septic tanks 3 x GOLD 5 x SILVER 5 x BRONZE

[sportznut]

Let's savour it while we can. Unfortunately we won't be in front of the yanks for long.

[sportz&all]

On 2004-08-17 09:31, sportznut wrote:
Let's savour it while we can. Unfortunately we won't be in front of the yanks for long.


Blooming obvious sportznut! But thanks for sharing.

[moeee]

This is probably going to be the longest thread in the last four years at least.
Well done Paddy!.Our Olympic hero.

[horsewithnoname]

Between Paddy and the 'sportz team' you could be right moeee :smile:

[moeee]

I lived in WA for 12 months,and I'm positive that it's something in the water.
Come out of the shower feeling dirtier than when you went in can't be a good sign.

[rarebitz]

No probs with the water up here. Best in Oz!!

[moeee]

And the best fishing as well.Forgot that WA is a mighty big place.
Apologies bro.
Let me make it Perth and Fremantle water tastes shit.

[sportznut]

On 2004-08-17 11:13, horsewithnoname wrote:
the 'sportz team'


I have no idea who all these other people are with sportz in their name. It's wierd!

[rabbitz]

Sportnutz
with souths looking like getting the spoon
can I change my name to sportzbunny
cheers

[Mr J]

Yep sportz, we've all gotta enjoy it while it lasts (even China). As soon as athletics start...

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-17 08:58, Paddy wrote:
MENS 4X200 FREESTYLE RELAY FINAL (PRE HEATS prices)

AUSTRALIA $1.28
USA $3.20
ITALY $11.00
GERMANY $35.00
RUSSIA $35.00
FRANCE $81.00
GREAT BRITAIN $101.00
CANADA $101.00
GREECE $101.00



Although the Aussies have 'owned' this event for a while, the value bet at the moment does look to be the USA. Hope I'm wrong.

[Paddy]

WOMENS 200M INDIVIDUAL MEDLEY FINAL 17/8

KLOCHKOVA Yana $1.38
BEARD Amanda $3.75
COVENTRY Kirsty $8.50
HOFF Kathryn $15.00
CARROLL Lara $23.00
ROHMANN Teresa $26.00
CASLARU Beatrice $51.00
KOVACS Agnes $71.00


Warm favourite Olympic record holder Yana KLOCHKOVA. Our own Lara CARROLL at 22/1. Go Lara!

[Paddy]

MENS HOCKEY ARGENTINA-AUST 17/8

AUSTRALIA $1.20
DRAW $6.00
ARGENTINA $7.25



Aussies hot favs to continue on their winning way, following strong win over NZ.

[rabbitz]

On 2004-08-17 04:38, sportznut wrote:
Well done Thorpey. I haven't seen the race yet, but judging by the splits, Van Den Hoogenband certainly wasn't far enough ahead coming to the last 50. Looks like Ian swam a great race and had things pretty much under control the whole way.

Another minor medal to Liesel Jones. Unfortunately that's becoming a regular thing. She just doesn't seem to be able to swim her best when it comes to finals.

Maybe Leisel could move to Port Adelaide after the games.

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[goldmember]

Moeee look in the horse racing forum " racing from the west" is 40 pages long.

Leisel Jones back to her old tricks,missing the start like that she should be renamed MANFRED

[Geez]

On 2004-08-17 11:47, moeee wrote:
...Let me make it Perth and Fremantle water tastes shit.


Luckily we have bottled water over here mo for the fussy visitor like yourself :smile:

[sportznut]

On 2004-08-17 15:04, Paddy wrote:
AUSTRALIA $1.28
USA $3.20
Although the Aussies have 'owned' this event for a while, the value bet at the moment does look to be the USA. Hope I'm wrong.


Well, I managed to get $3.75 and it WAS incredible value, but I would have much preferred an Australian Gold Medal though. Can't believe the poor tactical swim of Thorpe. He had 200m to make up just over a body length or so and he tried to do it all in the first 50. He went out so fast, he had nothing left for the final 50, otherwise I'm sure he would have finished over the top of Keller. Looks like he'll end up with only 2 gold medals and Phelps could get 6.

[Rogan Josh]

On 2004-08-17 15:04, Paddy wrote:

On 2004-08-17 08:58, Paddy wrote:
MENS 4X200 FREESTYLE RELAY FINAL (PRE HEATS prices)

AUSTRALIA $1.28
USA $3.20
ITALY $11.00
GERMANY $35.00
RUSSIA $35.00
FRANCE $81.00
GREAT BRITAIN $101.00
CANADA $101.00
GREECE $101.00


Although the Aussies have 'owned' this event for a while, the value bet at the moment does look to be the USA. Hope I'm wrong.


Yep, unfortunately spot on Paddy :wink:

[sportznut]

Current medal Tally:

1 CHN 10 6 2 18
2 USA 6 7 6 19
3 AUS 6 3 5 14
4 JPN 6 2 1 9
5 UKR 3 1 1 5
6 RUS 2 5 5 12

Didn't think it would take long. We are still ahead of Russia though... for now.

[Paddy]

Yeah spot on. Bugger! Cheers RJ :smile:
There’s a time to gloat & a time to mope.
Then there’s in-between.

[sportznut]

Here's the medal tally that REALLY matters:

AUSTRALIA 6 3 5 14
GT. BRITAIN 0 1 1 2

So far, so good. :wink:


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[rabbitz]

unbelieveable
how did great britain get a silver and a bronze!!!!
Theyll be partying all night
cheers

[sportznut]

:lol:

Their Silver was in the Synchronised Diving and it was very controversial, because their last dive definitely shouldn't have scored enough to keep them above the Australian guys who finished with the bronze. What's worse is that they're actually coached by former Australian diver Steve Foley. TRAITOR!!!

Stephen Parry got the bronze behind Phelps in the 200 butterfly.

I expect the poms' medal tally to certainly increase once the Cycling and Athletics gets into full swing.


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[Paddy]

WOMENS 4X200 FREESTYLE RELAY FINAL (PRE HEATS prices)

AUSTRALIA $2.25
GREAT BRITAIN $3.35
USA $3.50
GERMANY $10.00
CHINA $18.00
SPAIN $23.00
FRANCE $35.00
ROMANIA $51.00
SWEDEN $61.00


Could be some value here with only the USA & CHINA with multiple starters in the previously completed 200M WOMENS FREESTYLE SEMI FINALS.

[sportznut]

Could be a chance for the brits here, but Melanie Marshall will have to improve a LOT on her individual 200 performance. I think the U.S are probably over the odds again.

Australia's chances depend a lot on whether McKenzie can improve on her individual swim and whether the 200 butterfly takes too much out of Petria.

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[moeee]

On 2004-08-17 19:01, Geez wrote:

On 2004-08-17 11:47, moeee wrote:
...Let me make it Perth and Fremantle water tastes shit.


Luckily we have bottled water over here mo for the fussy visitor like yourself :smile:



Yeah I tried to have a bath with that,but I couldn't squeeze through the neck!

[moeee]

On 2004-08-17 14:56, Mr J wrote:
Yep sportz, we've all gotta enjoy it while it lasts (even China). As soon as athletics start...



J don't stand for John as in Howard would it?
Seem to be lost in the BUSH.

[moeee]

On 2004-08-17 17:53, goldmember wrote:
Moeee look in the horse racing forum " racing from the west" is 40 pages long.



Paddy OI!
Paddy OI!
Paddy Paddy Paddy
OI! OI! OI!

[moeee]

Well, I managed to get $3.75 and it WAS incredible value, but I would have much preferred an Australian Gold Medal though. Can't believe the poor tactical swim of Thorpe. He had 200m to make up just over a body length or so and he tried to do it all in the first 50. He went out so fast, he had nothing left for the final 50, otherwise I'm sure he would have finished over the top of Keller.

Just curious about how much you preferred Thorpe to have reached the wall first.So how much did you invest at the $3.75?
And just which swimming trials did you compete at again to have such in depth knowledge our Thorpedo lacks?

[sportznut]

It wasn't a HUGE bet Mo. I had $20 on them, but I certainly wanted the Aussies to win. I simply backed the Americans because I thought it was just about a 50/50 race, so $3.75 was too good to pass up. $75 does ease the pain though.

I'm embarassed to say it, but believe it or not, I can't even swim!!! So, I guess that makes me just as bad as those people who've never ridden a horse in their life, but continually criticise the jockeys.

I'm simply going on past experience. I have watched Thorpe swim MANY times, and normally he would have just gradually eaten into the American's lead and conserved his energy to overtake him in the last 50 metres. I'm sure if he could have the race over, that's what he would do.


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[Geez]

On 2004-08-18 10:11, moeee wrote:

On 2004-08-17 19:01, Geez wrote:

On 2004-08-17 11:47, moeee wrote:
...Let me make it Perth and Fremantle water tastes shit.


Luckily we have bottled water over here mo for the fussy visitor like yourself :smile:



Yeah I tried to have a bath with that,but I couldn't squeeze through the neck!



They can get ships into bottles mo!! :lol:

[roman@oz]

Where’s Wally??

My guess

Paddy = Neil
Sportznut = Guy

[sportznut]

On 2004-08-18 11:20, roman@oz wrote:
My guess

Paddy = Neil
Sportznut = Guy


Who's Guy? :???:

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-18 11:47, sportznut wrote:

On 2004-08-18 11:20, roman@oz wrote:
My guess

Paddy = Neil
Sportznut = Guy


Who's Guy? :???:


Who's Paddy?

[Paddy]

WOMENS 200M BUTTERFLY GOLD MEDAL

O Jedrzejczak (POL) - $1.80
P Thomas (AUS) - $3.50
K Sandeno (USA) - $7.00
Y Nakanishi (JPN) - $9.00
E Risztov (HUN) - $34.00
P Cavallino (ITA) - $41.00
F Galvez (AUS) - $51.00
M Jacobsen (DEN) - $51.00


World record holder Otylia JEDRZEJCZAK warm fav.

Fastest qualifier Kaitlin SANDENO.

Fingers crossed for Petria (and Felicity)

[Paddy]

MENS 100M FREESTYLE GOLD MEDAL

P Van Den Hoogenband (NED) - $1.57
R Schoeman (RSA) - $2.50
I Thorpe (AUS) - $13.00
F Magnini (ITA) - $21.00
R Neethling (RSA) - $41.00
A Kapralov (RUS) - $121.00
Swimmers Not Quoted - $201.00

Ian THORPE 12/1! Don't see that too often. Go Thorpey !!

World record holder Pieter VAN DEN HOOGENBAND warm fav.

Fastest qualifier Roland SCHOEMAN.

_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!



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[purpleheart68]

The only "Guy"I know is "Paddy"and he only"NEILS" in Church.!!
May the bluebird of happiness crap all over your birthday cake!!
P.S.
Argentina will win the Soccer Gold.
Get on.

[sportznut]

The swimming was GREAT for punting this morning. Unfortunately not great for the Aussies though.



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[Paddy]

On 2004-08-18 09:44, Paddy wrote:
WOMENS 4X200 FREESTYLE RELAY FINAL (PRE HEATS prices)

AUSTRALIA $2.25
GREAT BRITAIN $3.35
USA $3.50
GERMANY $10.00
CHINA $18.00
SPAIN $23.00
FRANCE $35.00
ROMANIA $51.00
SWEDEN $61.00


Could be some value here with only the USA & CHINA with multiple starters in the previously completed 200M WOMENS FREESTYLE SEMI FINALS.



USA - GOLD (New world record)
CHINA - SILVER
GERMANY - BRONZE

AUSTRALIA 4th - Just pipped by GERMANY

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-18 13:49, Paddy wrote:
MENS 100M FREESTYLE GOLD MEDAL

P Van Den Hoogenband (NED) - $1.57
R Schoeman (RSA) - $2.50
I Thorpe (AUS) - $13.00
F Magnini (ITA) - $21.00
R Neethling (RSA) - $41.00
A Kapralov (RUS) - $121.00
Swimmers Not Quoted - $201.00

Ian THORPE 12/1! Don't see that too often. Go Thorpey !!

World record holder Pieter VAN DEN HOOGENBAND warm fav.

Fastest qualifier Roland SCHOEMAN.

_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!


Pieter VAN DEN HOOGENBAND - GOLD
Roland SCHOEMAN - SILVER
Thorpey - BRONZE :smile:

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-18 13:35, Paddy wrote:
WOMENS 200M BUTTERFLY GOLD MEDAL

O Jedrzejczak (POL) - $1.80
P Thomas (AUS) - $3.50
K Sandeno (USA) - $7.00
Y Nakanishi (JPN) - $9.00
E Risztov (HUN) - $34.00
P Cavallino (ITA) - $41.00
F Galvez (AUS) - $51.00
M Jacobsen (DEN) - $51.00


World record holder Otylia JEDRZEJCZAK warm fav.

Fastest qualifier Kaitlin SANDENO.

Fingers crossed for Petria (and Felicity)



Otylia JEDRZEJCZAK - GOLD
Petria THOMAS - SILVER :smile: so close! :sad:
Yuko NAKANISHI - BRONZE

Felicity GALVEZ 5th.

[Paddy]

WOMENS 100M FREESTYLE GOLD MEDAL

Prices at: 13:20, 19 Aug 2004 AEST

Selection Price
J Henry (AUS) $1.25
I De Bruijn (NED) $3.75
N Coughlin (USA) $15.00
M Metella (FRA) $31.00
K Joyce (USA) $41.00
Swimmers Not Quoted $81.00


Newly crowned world & Olympic record holder Jodi HENRY should add to the OZ gold total.

[Paddy]

WOMENS 200M BREASTSTROKE GOLD MEDAL

Prices at: 13:27, 19 Aug 2004 AEST

Selection Price
A Beard (USA) $1.25
L Jones (AUS) $5.50
B Hanson (AUS) $9.00
M Tanaka (JPN) $11.00
H Qi (CHN) $17.00
A Poleska (GER) $31.00
A Kovacs (HUN) $41.00
M Jukic (AUT) $126.00

Amanda BEARD, Leisel JONES & Qi HUI have all gone under 2:23.00

Current world record holder Amanda BEARD the warm fav but I'm not writing-off the Aussie duo Leisel JONES or Brooke HANSON, in particular Leisel. Go Girls!!

[moeee]

Hey Paddy.Why muck around with small fish.
The Chas Brownlow medal has got over 500 runners.
Go Paddy.Oi.Oi.Oi.

[rabbitz]

a man with a beard by a whisker,that joke was leisel wasnt it,just jukicing
cheers

[horsewithnoname]

love your workz sportz

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-19 13:34, Paddy wrote:
WOMENS 200M BREASTSTROKE GOLD MEDAL

Prices at: 13:27, 19 Aug 2004 AEST

Selection Price
A Beard (USA) $1.25
L Jones (AUS) $5.50
B Hanson (AUS) $9.00
M Tanaka (JPN) $11.00
H Qi (CHN) $17.00
A Poleska (GER) $31.00
A Kovacs (HUN) $41.00
M Jukic (AUT) $126.00

Amanda BEARD, Leisel JONES & Qi HUI have all gone under 2:23.00

Current world record holder Amanda BEARD the warm fav but I'm not writing-off the Aussie duo Leisel JONES or Brooke HANSON, in particular Leisel. Go Girls!!




Amanda BEARD - GOLD
Leisel JONES - SILVER :smile: Oh so close! :sad:
Anne Poleska - BRONZE

Brooke HANSON - 8th

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-19 13:22, Paddy wrote:
WOMENS 100M FREESTYLE GOLD MEDAL

Prices at: 13:20, 19 Aug 2004 AEST

Selection Price
J Henry (AUS) $1.25
I De Bruijn (NED) $3.75
N Coughlin (USA) $15.00
M Metella (FRA) $31.00
K Joyce (USA) $41.00
Swimmers Not Quoted $81.00


Newly crowned world & Olympic record holder Jodi HENRY should add to the OZ gold total.




Jodi HENRY - GOLD :smile: :smile:
Inge De Bruijn - SILVER
Natalie Coughlin - BRONZE

[Paddy]

Current Medal Standing

United States 14 11 10 Total 35
China 14 9 6 Total 29
Japan 9 4 2 Total 15
Australia 7 5 7 Total 19
Ukraine 5 1 1 Total 7
Italy 4 5 3 Total 12
France 4 3 4 Total 11
Germany 4 2 7 Total 13
Russia 3 8 10 Total 21
Great Britain 0 3 4 Total 7
NZ 0 0 0 Total 0

[beberrycareful]

Took 100/1 for Brett Hawke (50M Freestyle) as a bit of an interest.

Boy am I interested now :smile:

[Floydyboy]

Are we on track for 13 gold medals (that was the mark set by betfair "over /under")I didnt have a bet but thought over 13 wasnt a bad bet

[4theboyz]

Read and noted somewhere that some expert predicted the USA to win 93 medals, followed by Russia (83), China (57) Germany (55) and Australia (54).

He predicted the same 5 countries to win the gold medal race with a slight change in ordering, USA (37), Russia (29), China (27), Australia (14), and Germany (13).

Interestingly he left out Japan, who are going pretty well at the moment.

_________________


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[beberrycareful]

Think I read same source 4theboyz.
A couple of professors from memory.
Made a copy of their predictions.
Predicted Japan would get 6 gold only!

[sportznut]

We should go close to that 13 golds. Depends on our Cyclists and Rowers. There's possibly 2 or 3 more golds in the swimming. Can't really see us winning any in athletics though, so the 2nd week certainly won't be as good for us as the first!

Jodie Henry is my absolute favourite, so although I thought she was brilliant value at $3.50 pre-games, I didn't dare back her for fear of jinxing her. Bad luck for Liesel last night. It was a good performance and she went so close.


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[sportznut]

Who do you reckon they should choose for the relay, Liesel Jones or Brooke Hanson. Brooke finished .01 secs ahead of Liesel in the individual race, but Liesel is the world record holder and I'm sure she'll be so damn determined to put in a big one. Then again, Brooke's faster starts might be more suited to relays. Don't know about that one. Anyway, we'll probably be about 1 to 1.5 seconds behind the US after the backstroke, so it'll be up to Petria Thomas and either Brooke or Liesel to give Jodie a chance to mow them down in the last 100. I reckon the world record will probably go in that event. I just hope that it's us.

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[mug punta]

Gday sportznut. I hope they pick Liesel. I reckon she shut up a few of her critics with that gutsy swim last nite. I was gutted 4 her, but, I reckon she's probly actually a better swimmer than Brooke and I reckon she will swim a bottler in the relay

[gum stumpa]

have to be liesel

[rabbitz]

Hello boys
Do you remember last week how I missed the lions -23.5 by 1/2 point,well i found that 1/2 point in the womens basketball
Russia V Japan
Russia -22.5=$2.10 (sport odds)
Result wait for it
Russia 94
Japan 71
Pass the vodka Dmitri
cheers

[Paddy]

Women's 50m Freestyle-Gold Medal

I De Bruijn (NED)
$1.15
L Lenton (AUS)
$4.00
M Engelsman (AUS)
$6.00
T Alshammar (SWE)
$21.00
J Thompson (USA)
$41.00
K Joyce (USA)
$41.00
M Metella (FRA)
$51.00

Hot fav Inge De Bruijn, world & Olympic record holder.

Therese Alshammar 2nd fastest in the world to-date.

Aussies Lisbeth Lenton & Michelle Engelsman 2nd fastest & 5th fastest qualifiers respectively. Go girls!

[Paddy]

Men's 1500m Freestyle-Gold Medal

G Hackett (AUS)
$1.10
L Jensen (USA)
$9.00
D Davies (SCO)
$9.00
Y Prilukov (RUS)
$21.00
C Stevens (AUS)
$67.00
S Gianniotis (GRE)
$81.00
D Coman (ROM)
$201.00
G Smith (GBR)
$201.00

Fastest qualifier David Davies.
Others to break 15:00:00 in the past – Yuri Prilukov, Larsen Jensen & of course Grant Hackett, who surprised a little with a relatively slow qualifying time.

GOLD for Grant!

[Paddy]

Women's 4x100m Medley Relay-Gold Medal

Australia
$1.55
USA
$2.30
Germany
$21.00
China
$26.00
Great Britain
$51.00
Japan
$81.00
Netherlands
$101.00
Spain
$151.00



USA hold the world & Olympic records.
Likely Oz line-up of Petria Thomas, Giaan Rooney, Leisel Jones & Jodie Henry to serve it up to the Yanks. Ozzie GOLD!!

[sportzRus]

Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!!

Oi.Oi.Oi!!

[Mr J]

Yeh awesome effort by the girls and hackett.

And thank you Dream Team. Took Lithuania +2.5 but when the inbetting got out to +9.5 I pulled the trigger.

Result? Lithuania sink two 3 pointers in a row near the end to take the lead :smile:

[sportznut]

On 2004-08-20 09:31, sportznut wrote:
Anyway, we'll probably be about 1 to 1.5 seconds behind the US after the backstroke, so it'll be up to Petria Thomas and either Brooke or Liesel to give Jodie a chance to mow them down in the last 100. I reckon the world record will probably go in that event. I just hope that it's us.


:grin: All went to plan. What a swim by Petria.

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-21 19:35, Paddy wrote:
Women's 50m Freestyle-Gold Medal

I De Bruijn (NED)
$1.15
L Lenton (AUS)
$4.00
M Engelsman (AUS)
$6.00
T Alshammar (SWE)
$21.00
J Thompson (USA)
$41.00
K Joyce (USA)
$41.00
M Metella (FRA)
$51.00

Hot fav Inge De Bruijn, world & Olympic record holder.

Therese Alshammar 2nd fastest in the world to-date.

Aussies Lisbeth Lenton & Michelle Engelsman 2nd fastest & 5th fastest qualifiers respectively. Go girls!


Inge De Bruijn - GOLD
Malia Metella - SILVER
Lisbeth Lenton - BRONZE


Michelle Engelsman - 6th

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-21 19:36, Paddy wrote:
Men's 1500m Freestyle-Gold Medal

G Hackett (AUS)
$1.10
L Jensen (USA)
$9.00
D Davies (SCO)
$9.00
Y Prilukov (RUS)
$21.00
C Stevens (AUS)
$67.00
S Gianniotis (GRE)
$81.00
D Coman (ROM)
$201.00
G Smith (GBR)
$201.00

Fastest qualifier David Davies.
Others to break 15:00:00 in the past – Yuri Prilukov, Larsen Jensen & of course Grant Hackett, who surprised a little with a relatively slow qualifying time.

GOLD for Grant!



Grant Hackett - GOLD
Larsen Jensen - SILVER
David Davies - BRONZE


Craig Stevens - 8th

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-21 19:37, Paddy wrote:
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay-Gold Medal

Australia
$1.55
USA
$2.30
Germany
$21.00
China
$26.00
Great Britain
$51.00
Japan
$81.00
Netherlands
$101.00
Spain
$151.00



USA hold the world & Olympic records.
Likely Oz line-up of Petria Thomas, Giaan Rooney, Leisel Jones & Jodie Henry to serve it up to the Yanks. Ozzie GOLD!!




Australia - GOLD in new world record time 3:57.32
USA - SILVER
GERMANY - BRONZE

[Paddy]

Current Medal Standing

United States 20 16 12 Total 48
China 18 13 10 Total 41
Japan 12 5 5 Total 22
Australia 11 7 11 Total 29
Germany 10 9 11 Total 30
Russia 7 13 14 Total 34


Great Britain 5 7 7 Total 19
NZ 1 0 0 Total 1

[Paddy]

Womens 3km Indiv Pursuit(Cycling Track) -Gold Medal

Sarah Ulmer (NZL)- $1.28
Katie MacTier (AUS) - $3.40

Katie MacTier broke Sarah Ulmer's old world record in her first hit-out leading up to the final, only to see her time subsequently bettered twice by Sarah Ulmer.

SILVER at least to Katie. If GOLD goes to NZ I certainly won't begrudge it. Good luck to both girls.

[sportznut]

Unfortunately, I think Sarah Ulmer is a pretty good thing, but I hope Katie proves me wrong.

Speaking of good things, what about the U.S Softball team? Before tonight, they'd scored something like 41 runs to nothing, and they are currently thrashing us for the 2nd time in the tournament (and we're the 2nd or 3rd best team in the world)

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[Paddy]

Yes. Not a bad looker sportznut.

Imagine winner will set a new world record to boot :wink:

[sportznut]

Yeah, you're right Paddy, but I wasn't actually commenting on her looks. I meant that I thought Sarah Ulmer was a pretty good thing to win the Gold medal.

[Paddy]

Women's 400m Hurdles Final - Gold Medal

Semifinals tonight Greece time.


Yuliya Pechenkina (RUS)
$2.25
Sheena Johnson (USA)
$4.25
Jana Pittman (AUS)
$4.75
Fani Halkia (GRE)
$6.50
Lashinda Demus (USA)
$13.00
Brenda Taylor (USA)
$13.00
Athletes Not Quoted
$17.00
Tetyana Tereshcuk-Antipova (UKR)
$26.00
Yekaterina Bikert (RUS)
$51.00
Yekaterina Bakhvalova (RUS)
$101.00
Debbie-Ann Parris (JAM)
$101.00
Androula Sialou (CYP)
$101.00

Still amazed to see Jana in the semis given events of recent past.

Jana has drawn the toughest semi. Includes current world record holder Yuliya Pechenkina (52.34), Sheena Johnson (52.95) & Brenda Taylor (53.36)

Fingers crossed Jana gets through to the final & unscathed.

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-22 21:18, sportznut wrote:
Yeah, you're right Paddy, but I wasn't actually commenting on her looks. I meant that I thought Sarah Ulmer was a pretty good thing to win the Gold medal.


Really :eek: :lol:



Cheers sportz :smile:

[Paddy]

Sarah ULMER (NZ) won the Women's Individual 3km Pursuit Gold medal race against Katie MACTIER (AUS) in a time of 3:24.537, breaking ULMER's day old world record of 3:26.400, winning NZ'z first ever track Cycling Gold medal. Katie MACTIER
finished with Silver.

[sportznut]

Told you she was a good thing. I got $2.10, but even the price last night was good value. :smile:


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[Paddy]

On 2004-08-22 21:23, Paddy wrote:
Women's 400m Hurdles Final - Gold Medal

Semifinals tonight Greece time.


Yuliya Pechenkina (RUS)
$2.25
Sheena Johnson (USA)
$4.25
Jana Pittman (AUS)
$4.75
Fani Halkia (GRE)
$6.50
Lashinda Demus (USA)
$13.00
Brenda Taylor (USA)
$13.00
Athletes Not Quoted
$17.00
Tetyana Tereshcuk-Antipova (UKR)
$26.00
Yekaterina Bikert (RUS)
$51.00
Yekaterina Bakhvalova (RUS)
$101.00
Debbie-Ann Parris (JAM)
$101.00
Androula Sialou (CYP)
$101.00

Still amazed to see Jana in the semis given events of recent past.

Jana has drawn the toughest semi. Includes current world record holder Yuliya Pechenkina (52.34), Sheena Johnson (52.95) & Brenda Taylor (53.36)

Fingers crossed Jana gets through to the final & unscathed.




Women's 400m Hurdles Final - Gold Medal (25/8)


Lane 1 Tetiana Tereshcuk-Antipova (UKR)
Lane 2 Brenda Taylor (USA)
Lane 3 Ionela Tirlea-Manolache (ROM)
Lane 4 Fani Halkia (GRE)
Lane 5 Jana Pittman (AUS)
Lane 6 Yuliya Pechenkina (RUS)
Lane 7 Yekaterina Bikert (RUS)
Lane 8 Sheena Johnson (USA)


Great effort by Jana (54.05) to finished 2nd behind Yuliya Pechenkina (53.31) in the 1st semi.

Local Fani Halkia clocked 52.77 (new Olympic record) to win the 2nd semi.


A great final assured. Go Jana!!


_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!



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[mug punta]

Don't know what odds the greek girl will be after the semi but she looks a great bet.
Easily the best time and did it easy.

[beberrycareful]

Thought Jana and Yuliya Pechenkina a lot up the sleeve in their semi. Fani Halkia most impressive in her semi. Likely tri?

[beberrycareful]

Just updating your medal tally Paddy

China 22 14 10 Total 46
United States 21 21 15 Total 57
Japan 13 6 7 Total 26
Australia 12 8 12 Total 32
Germany 10 9 12 Total 31
France 8 8 7 Total 23
Russia 7 13 16 Total 36


Great Britain 5 7 7 Total 19
NZ 2 0 0 Total 2

[Paddy]

Latest market Women's 400m Hurdles Final - Gold Medal (25/8)

Fani Halkia (GRE) - $1.95
Yuliya Pechenkina (RUS) - $2.45
Jana Pittman (AUS) - $6.00
Sheena Johnson (USA) - $21.00
Ionela Tirlea-Manolache (ROM) - $26.00
Tetyana Tereshcuk-Antipova (UKR) - $34.00
Yekaterina Bikert (RUS) - $67.00
Brenda Taylor (USA) - $101.00

[Paddy]

Men's Team Pursuit (Cycling) - Gold Medal Winner

Australia - $1.16
Great Britain - $4.65

The Australian team of Graeme Brown, Brett Lancaster, Brad McGee & Luke Roberts have set new world & Olympic records on the way to the final & are understandably hot favs for the GOLD. Go Oz!

[whiterhino]

The POMS will put up a great fight Paddy.

They have Olympic Men's Individual Pursuit champion Bradley Wiggins in their team and set a new British record to get to the final.

[whiterhino]

On 2004-08-22 21:05, sportznut wrote:
Speaking of good things, what about the U.S Softball team? Before tonight, they'd scored something like 41 runs to nothing, and they are currently thrashing us for the 2nd time in the tournament (and we're the 2nd or 3rd best team in the world)



Well the aussies bounced back after their 5-0 drubbing by the yanks, to beat Japan 3-0.

Aussies to meet the Yanks once again in the grand final. Think we need a miracle to beat the Yanks, but silver doesn't look all that bad around your neck.

[sportznut]

Not a great reward for their win against Japan.... another thrashing by the U.S. I hope I'm wrong, but i really can't see us getting close to them. It'll be a minor miracle to even get one run! Still, as you said, a silver medal isn't bad, is it? :smile:

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[gum stumpa]

Lets not forget the Womens 20K walk.
Russia and China do look to have a very strong contingent. Russian girls Yelena Nikolayeva and Olimpiada Ivanova favourites to quinella the race.

Sisters Jane and Natalie Saville and Cheryl Webb representing Oz, with Jane the most favoured to get amongst the medals.

Can Jane (who was disqualified in the 20km walk in Sydney) get revenge? Would be nice :smile:

[Floydyboy]

ITS bloody 120pm in athens and im sure theres something happening at the olympics All im getting is bloody re runs . I havent been impressed with the coverage channel 7 is giving us and all you get on sbs is volleyball table tennis and bloody badminton wine wine wine

[moeee]

You mean there is something else!.:eek:


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[sportznut]

On 2004-08-20 06:32, Floydyboy wrote:
Are we on track for 13 gold medals (that was the mark set by betfair "over /under")I didnt have a bet but thought over 13 wasnt a bad bet


We're on 13 right now with a few good chances left.

1 USA 23 25 17 65
2 CHN 23 15 12 50
3 JPN 15 8 8 31
4 AUS 13 9 13 35
5 FRA 9 7 9 25
6 GER 8 10 11 29

What's happened to Russia at these Olympics? Wierd.

[sportznut]

The most important medal tally:

Australia 13 9 13 35
Gt Britain 7 8 7 22
New Zealand 2 0 0 2

[Floydyboy]

Per head of population our sporting achievments over the years has been sensational.and as Andrew denton says we have to beat new zealand ..... Go you good things....

[squirtz]

Yeh right!

[Floydyboy]

Yeh Right What Squirtz........
Oh I just seen the NZ under you nic ...Its a bit of fun ....our rivalry with NZ has always been friendly .


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[sportznut]

On 2004-08-23 12:00, sportznut wrote:
It'll be a minor miracle to even get one run!


Wow, there WAS a minor miracle. We scored one run. Never looked like winning though.

[Mr J]

Anyone also notice that we are the only country in the top 7 with less than 50 million?

The countries ahead of us also have around 280 million, 1.2 billion (or so, who knows!!), and 130 or so million.

Hell, the other countries in the top 7 have 100x our population (33% of world population), yet only have 6x the amount of medals as us.

[mug punta]

If the Olympics were run on a relative scale of population to performance we would be miles in front. We only have 20 million in this top nation, obviously, we're all pretty good at sport.
The Chinese who are currently leading have 2 billion people.

[moeee]

If we had over a billion people,is anyone suggesting that we would have won more gold medals?
What is Indias medal tally?
This is why we keep losing at gambling.We mis-interpolate the data and come up with the wrong delusional conclusion.

[mug punta]

Taken a double on Halkia to win the 400 metres with Italy to win the mens soccer at $8.50 and a small saver on Halkia to win with Iraq to win the soccer at $13.50.
Could be a bit of value.

[jakelee]

The Australian govt. made a concerted effort to invest in sports programs after Australia's disasterous showing at the Montreal Olympics. We are reaping the benifits of this.

[Paddy]

Latest market Women's 400m Hurdles Final - Gold Medal (25/8)

Fani Halkia (GRE) - $1.80 (was $1.95)
Yuliya Pechenkina (RUS) - $2.60 (was $2.45)
Jana Pittman (AUS) - $6.50 (was $6.00)
Sheena Johnson (USA) - $21.00 (same)
Ionela Tirlea-Manolache (ROM) - $31.00 (was $26.00)
Tetyana Tereshcuk-Antipova (UKR) - $41 (was $34.00)
Yekaterina Bikert (RUS) - $101 (was $67.00)
Brenda Taylor (USA) - $101.00 (same)

[Paddy]

Here's the latest medal tally


United States 25 27 19 Total 71
China 24 15 12 Total 51
Japan 15 8 9 Total 32
Australia 14 9 14 Total 37
France 9 7 9 Total 27
Russia 8 17 21 46
Germany 8 10 13 Total 31


Great Britain 7 8 7 Total 22
NZ 2 0 0 Total 2

[Mr J]

"Chinese who are currently leading have 2 billion people"

No, 1.2 to 1.3 billion.

"If we had over a billion people,is anyone suggesting that we would have won more gold medals?"

Of course. Sports is a big part of our culture which is what gives us the medals. With the same culture but a larger population, you would expect more medals.

Our medals per capita wouldn't increase in direct proportion though, since we're obviously good at some sports and bad at others. We'd saturate swimming, most team sports etc, but we still would be behind in athletics, gymnastics etc. To get twice as many medals we'd probally need 60-80 million.

[whiterhino]

On 2004-08-25 08:11, Mr J wrote:
"Chinese who are currently leading have 2 billion people"

No, 1.2 to 1.3 billion.

"If we had over a billion people,is anyone suggesting that we would have won more gold medals?"

Of course. Sports is a big part of our culture which is what gives us the medals. With the same culture but a larger population, you would expect more medals.

Our medals per capita wouldn't increase in direct proportion though, since we're obviously good at some sports and bad at others. We'd saturate swimming, most team sports etc, but we still would be behind in athletics, gymnastics etc. To get twice as many medals we'd probally need 60-80 million.



Better idea is to go 'head hunting'.
Oz such a lucky country, great lifestyle. Convince a dozen or so o/s good potential gold medal winners and go on an import drive. I'm sure some of the big sponsors would get involved :smile:

[moeee]

Getting off the forum subject matter Mr J,but if Australia could support over 60 million people at the standard we are accustomed to,then that is what our population would be.
If not,maybe the Government could redirect some of the Sports revenue funding to the welfare budget.

[Happychap]

Excellent idea whiterhino. Go on a recruitment drive!

Don’t forget to include coaches / trainers on the list.

[sportznut]

Channel 7's Sunrise program puts up what they call the 'real' medal tally based on population size. At the moment it's:
1 Australia
2 New Zealand
3 Greece
4 Norway

As for that idea of 'buying' gold medals, I am all for champion athletes coming here if it's because this is where they want to live, but we should never go so far as paying them. I was extremely pleased with the result of the womens 5000m yesterday. The favourite was an Ethiopian woman who had been basically bought by a Turkish company to go and compete for Turkey and win them a gold medal. She was the world record holder but after leading early, she collapsed and finished 12th, while the gold medal was won by another Ethiopian. Justice!

As far as I'm concerned, there's no doubt that a larger population gives you more chance of unearthing a champion athlete. The Americans have 280 million people, so they obviously stand a greater chance of producing someone special than we do with our 20 million. They can also have much greater depth across a whole lot of sports.

Out of all the countries involved, the USA would be competitive at the largest number of sports, but we're probably second as far as that is concerned. Take the Baseball for example. We beat Japan to get to the final. Now, Japan has a population about 6 or 7 times ours and Baseball is basically their number one sport, while it's a very minor sport here. Beating Japan at Baseball should be just like Japan beating Australia at Cricket. We'll be playing Cuba in the final, and again they are just so incredibly strong at Baseball, so it's hard to see us winning the gold. Silver would still be a great performance though.


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[rabbitz]

Does anyone rate Pitmann in the 400m hurdles
I think she'll get the bronze behind the greek and russian in that order
cheers

[horsewithnoname]

On 2004-08-25 09:27, sportznut wrote:
I was extremely pleased with the result of the womens 5000m yesterday. The favourite was an Ethiopian woman who had been basically bought by a Turkish company to go and compete for Turkey and win them a gold medal. She was the world record holder but after leading early, she collapsed and finished 12th, while the gold medal was won by an Ethiopian. Justice!



Love your workz sportz.

[mug punta]

tab sportsbet are betting $1.90 the quinella for the russian and greek girls. I reckon its money for jam

[Floydyboy]

The tall russian girlie didnt seem to be out of puff the other day (pulled up well ) but I had a patriotic $6 on Jana at $11.50 with B/F its supposed to be on at 4.55am our time tomorrow.... spose ill have to get up and watch it now my freights gunna be running round

[sportznut]

I feel really sorry for Loretta Harrop. That was terrible watching that. Apparently, the winner is going to get a million bucks and a house from the Austrian government! No wonder she finished so damn fast!!!

I must say that I think the Greek runner's performance is a little bit dubious. I know that athletes can perform above expectations in front of their home fans, but she was almost unheard of until a few days ago.

[goldmember]

Sportz, heard yesterday when the aussies beat japan in the baseball that the japanese team salary was $100 million while ours was $300,000 so it goes to show money isnt everything.

[goldenember]

Channel 7's Sunrise program 'real' medal tally based on population size. Current ranking.

1 Bahamas
2 Australia
3 New Zealand
4 Greece

[goldenember]

On 2004-08-26 09:14, goldmember wrote:
Sportz, heard yesterday when the aussies beat japan in the baseball that the japanese team salary was $100 million while ours was $300,000 so it goes to show money isnt everything.


Yeh. Just goes to show.

[moeee]

On 2004-08-26 08:22, sportznut wrote:

I must say that I think the Greek runner's performance is a little bit dubious. I know that athletes can perform above expectations in front of their home fans, but she was almost unheard of until a few days ago.


The great Dulcify started at 330-1 at its first start win.

[rabbitz]

I didnt know dulcify was greek mo
Maybe the greeks are feeding their athletes a bit more than kalamata olives and tzaziki
Two things the country who has the olympics invariably does well and secondly they have been able to acclimatise but with the two sprinters being banned,maybe their is something shady going on
cheers

[mug punta]

Do the aussie opals have any hope of knocking over the yanks for gold. I've been watching and backing our girls and they keep easily beating the spreads and are playing great bb. The $4 seems good value, but, how good are the seppos?

[sportznut]

Damn good! Australia is the only team with a chance of beating them, but they'll have to play at their absolute best. I reckon we'd beat them maybe 1 game in 5, so I guess you have to take the gamble that the final is going to be that one game.

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[Mr J]

I'd say 1 in 3 sportz :wink:

[sportznut]

I wish I was that confident Mr J.

[Paddy]

Here's the latest medal tally


United States 25 29 23 Total 77
China 25 17 12 Total 54
Australia 16 11 15 Total 42
Russia 15 19 23 57
Japan 15 9 10 Total 34
Germany 10 11 13 Total 34
France 10 7 9 Total 26
Italy 9 6 8 Total 23


Great Britain 7 8 10 Total 25
NZ 3 1 0 Total 4

[Paddy]

WOMENS BASKETBALL GOLD

USA - $1.33
AUSTRALIA - $4.00
RUSSIA - $14.00
BRAZIL - $28.00

[Paddy]

MENS HOCKEY GOLD

NETHERLANDS - $1.50
AUSTRALIA - $2.40

_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!


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[Mr J]

On 2004-08-27 06:04, Paddy wrote:
MENS HOCKEY GOLD

NETHERLANDS - $1.50
AUSTRALIA - $2.40


Check out the house cut on that bet. How do bookies ever go broke??!!!??

[gum stumpa]

On 2004-08-27 06:41, Mr J wrote:

On 2004-08-27 06:04, Paddy wrote:
MENS HOCKEY GOLD

NETHERLANDS - $1.50
AUSTRALIA - $2.40


Check out the house cut on that bet. How do bookies ever go broke??!!!??



Bit of an understatement Mr J :smile:

[goldenember]

Channel 7's Sunrise program 'real' medal tally based on population size. Current ranking.

1 Bahamas
2 Australia
3 Greece
4 New Zealand

[sportznut]

NZ's win in the Triathlon actually took them back past Greece and if they win a Gold in the Kayaking as is quite possible, they'll go ahead of us into 2nd place.

[moeee]

On 2004-08-27 06:41, Mr J wrote:
[quote]

NETHERLANDS - $1.50
AUSTRALIA - $2.40

Check out the house cut on that bet. How do bookies ever go broke??!!!??


By setting markets at too close to 100%.
Try going to a farmer and ask what price he got paid per kilo for his potatoes.
Then thank God for the small commission bookies ask.

[Mr J]

Mo, just in case you didn't realise it was a joke. House edge is always large on irregular bets (things like world cups, exotic bets, olympics props etc).

Actually the reason bookies go broke isn't because the markets are too close to 100%, it's because they don't manage their risk effectively. Pinnacle, lowest vig on the market but easily one of the most profitable.

[sportznut]

Men's Basketball Semi Final: Argentina 89 USA 81

HOW SWEET IT IS!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:

[sportznut]

Women's 4x100m Relay Result:
JAMAICA Gold
RUSSIA Silver
FRANCE Bronze
--------
USA Did Not Finish

HOW SWEET IT IS AGAIN!!! :smile:

[Mr J]

For sure...

The press is spewing in the US :smile: