Sunday Greyhound Markets

[moeee]

SANDOWN Race 5

5 PROVEN NITRO $2.9
3 ELITE CHI CHI $3.9
7 TOTAL REBELLION $7.8
2 SIR PEDRO $11.5
4 DEFENCE CHIEF $14
1 SPEEDY COLOUR $18
6 WOODSIDE PARK $22
8 ROZEHILL JESS $50

The top 2 selections are clearly more fancied than the rest of the runners.
A wise Punter would be confining his wager to a Win bet on one of them.

[moeee]

HEALESVILLE Race 8

3 GLOMING $4.9
8 STAR DIAMOND $5.3
1 SO MANIC $5.6
4 JESS UMBRIDGE $6.2
5 LESLIE'S EXPRESS $11.5
2 YOUNG GAZZA $13.3
6 GUNG HO RUMBLE $14
7 BARNEY'S PRIDE $30

4 winning Chances here

[moeee]

HEALESVILLE Race 5

4 OUR PALE ALE $3.7
3 SHIRAZ REEF $9.1
2 GOLD PLEDGE $9.1
1 BOSSY BETTY $9.2
6 RICEY $9.4
5 TUBESMAN $9.5
7 CROWN POKER $10
8 SWEET TIME $11

As can be seen , I am having a lot of difficulty sorting this lot.
There is a massive amout of doubt.
The only thing I know is the top selection has easily the best chance of winning.

[Raven]

HEALESVILLE Race 8

3 GLOMING $4.9
8 STAR DIAMOND $5.3
1 SO MANIC $5.6
4 JESS UMBRIDGE $6.2
5 LESLIE'S EXPRESS $11.5
2 YOUNG GAZZA $13.3
6 GUNG HO RUMBLE $14
7 BARNEY'S PRIDE $30

4 winning Chances hereI'm not keen on these short distances, but I'm having a crack anyway.

I've found a few I think can lead and win. I've got Jess really short but here but I'm not sure of her pace. I can't find the #1 at all and its pre-post fave.

[moeee]

HEALESVILLE Race 10

2 SPOT ON ROB $3.5
5 JIMMY I AM $5.1
1 ANNIE ANTEATER $7.7
8 COONEY'S MEDAL $9.2
4 BARRABAS $9.4
3 BALOTELLI $12
6 AMBER JET $18
7 HARDAWAY MASTER $25

I be surprised if i can obtain an Overlay about the top selection.

Raven.
I'll comment on your post soon.

[moeee]

You are certainly obliged to stick with what you consider more comfortable.
But if you do mess with these short races , then it can only be a learning curve for you and you will receive great benefit , although I would suggest as a financial proposition , you keep away.
In fact it prolly be to your favour if you keep away completely from the fincial arena until you know the animals as well as I do.
Even I have very little feel for it , but every day in every way I am getting better and better.

Regarding So Manic.
If you notice the FormLines about this animal , it usually runs really well , or it runs totally dismally.
Its a matter of perks and quirks of individual animals.
Look at the Boxes the animal rates poorly on.
They are always wide Boxes.
It just seems very uncomfortable out there.
If you download one of the WatchDog FormGuides , yoy will find the Box Statistivs for each animal.
I choose to use The Rocket Scientist.

Here is So Manic Statistics.
Box 1 is 7 starts for 4 wins and 3 4ths.

Much of the animals failures are from wide boxes and in town.
Theses Form Lines need to dismissed from your calculations and you will find a much higher assessment of So Manic than you originally had.

[Raven]

I looked at box 1& 2 improved it a bit but I just have Jess rating too high, unless the #1 has good speed, i think he's unders. I see Jess has no speed so she should not be that short, I have to work out a way to adjust like a do with the gallops. Heaps of time though.

Well im in front for the rest of the day

[Raven]

a few at Sandown

[moeee]

SANDOWN Race 4

7 WEETBIX KID $3.9
8 IMA ROGUE TRADER $5.5
1 BRAVO $5.7
3 SEISMIC TEXAN $6.5
6 CLOVALLEY VIV $11.8
4 JETTISON $17.9
5 DAWN PRINCESS $18.2
2 JO'S GOT JAZZ $25

The top selection will start an Underlay and i will be backing something to beat it.

[moeee]

Well im in front for the rest of the day

How do you figure that?
A Large Collect in early Healesville Race?

[Raven]

How do you figure that?
A Large Collect in early Healesville Race?
First 2 top selections win, & quin in R3. I'll even drop stakes to stay in front.

[Raven]

HEALESVILLE Race 5

4 OUR PALE ALE $3.7
3 SHIRAZ REEF $9.1
2 GOLD PLEDGE $9.1
1 BOSSY BETTY $9.2
6 RICEY $9.4
5 TUBESMAN $9.5
7 CROWN POKER $10
8 SWEET TIME $11

As can be seen , I am having a lot of difficulty sorting this lot.
There is a massive amout of doubt.
The only thing I know is the top selection has easily the best chance of winning.
Fave will be an underlay so I'll take a banker quin 4 with 1/5/6

[moeee]

Fave will be an underlay so I'll take a banker quin 4 with 1/5/6

If you gonna try and outguess me on My Markets raven , i wish you Luck.

Best you stick with your Markets because they are working very well for you.
Even in this race you had the winner at Big Odds On , and if I'm not mistaken , a SPECIAL.

I have found when someone forms a Market , then only they understand how that Market came about , and that only they know how to interpret it.

The Winner actually started HUGE Odds compared to your calculations Raven , but I managed to miss out , mainly due to the massive amount of doubt I had about the race Field.
I did bag Trifecta for a very tiny percentage , but that pays for the next 1 or 2 Races at least.

[Raven]

yes i went off early there, wish i took the 3.50 on ST

do you have an opinion on Fairy Horse?

[moeee]

do you have an opinion on Fairy Horse?

This will be way too late but Fairy Horse will lead these , and probably win.
I never done this Race.

[Raven]

This will be way too late but Fairy Horse will lead these , and probably win.
I never done this Race.
lol, thats what i thought too

nice result at Healsville all told

[moeee]

gfu Raven.

Just remember to acknowledge what you have done right and ponder on what you have done wrong and you will be as good as me - or prolly better.
Then I can ask you stuff :)

[Raven]

No good at Sandown

4 top rated overlays, 1 win at $1.80
Proven Nitro was an underlay & won, Arising was an underlay in R6 but if I was smart my close 2nd rated was great overs & won. But i wasn't smart

[moeee]

SAN R4 515m
Rating Price

2 JO'S GOT JAZZ 99.5 $2.36

This is what happens when you spend 30 seconds on a race.

Go back and take a look at how this happened.
This animal is a Stayer.
I don't know whether you recognize that a horse that is a Stayer is unsuited in a 1200 metre race , but if you do , the same applies to greyhounds , but much more so.

You must eliminate a lot of the orm Lines that cause this animal to rate so highly in todays 515 metre race.
The dog would only be getting warmed up as it crosses the line in todays event.

You could still Profit anyway spending 30 seconds a race.
So I have heard anyway.
But you must get the Winning races more right than you get the losing races Wrong.

[moeee]

After some much interrupted wagering due to other matters.

Peak $7,701
Current $7,429
Loss -$271

Mighta done better , just didn't have time to Peruse available Odds.


SALE Race 4

4 UCME TYPHOON $4.6
2 PHIL LE CHEF $4.7
6 FIRE UP NATE $4.8
3 INDIGO FLASH $5.8
1 SQUEEKY TAYLOR $8.6
5 INSIDE TRADER $25
7 TEXAS TRIX $36

Only 5 animals capable of figuring in the first 4 suggests I have zero excuse not to bag it.

[Raven]

so in a 515m race

what distance range should i be looking at? when is a race a staying race? 600m?

[Raven]

After some much interrupted wagering due to other matters.

Peak $7,701
Current $7,429
Loss -$271

Mighta done better , just didn't have time to Peruse available Odds.


SALE Race 4

4 UCME TYPHOON $4.6
2 PHIL LE CHEF $4.7
6 FIRE UP NATE $4.8
3 INDIGO FLASH $5.8
1 SQUEEKY TAYLOR $8.6
5 INSIDE TRADER $25
7 TEXAS TRIX $36

Only 5 animals capable of figuring in the first 4 suggests I have zero excuse not to bag it.
I have the #3 at 3.07 and the #6 at 3.62

I'll have another look at that race at Sandown later

[moeee]

I don't know enough about these things raven.

But I do know that if My Computer spits out Jos Jazzy at $2.95 top rated , then there is something wrong , and i need to investigate why?

If you are using the Download Program i posted , then you will notice that the animal has a lot of 700+ races in its Form Lines.
And it was performing well in them.

I have a lot of study to do at SALE raven.
I can't talk now.

Cheers.

[moeee]

I made a mess of race 4 at SALE as far as getting them in the correct Order , but sure as 'ell had the Winner on top :)

[moeee]

SALE Race 6

3 MISTER LAQUINTA $3.4
2 LINDEN KING $4.5
1 BUCKLEY ROSE $5.1
5 SAVANNAH'S STAR $7.8
6 KASUNDI $15
4 SOUL LASS $24
8 HEZA BLAZIN' $26
7 ZEVA WATERS $80

Linden King has failed at his previous 2 runs.
I don't have video of them but I certainly ain't prepared to take no skinny Price about it tonight.
My top selection should be at Overlay Odds and I have only 3 Podium Chances here so even if i miss the Winner , I expect bagging the trifecta.

[moeee]

SALE Race 6

Linden King has failed at his previous 2 runs.
I don't have video of them but I certainly ain't prepared to take no skinny Price about it tonight.


well I made a wrong decision and that was that !!

[moeee]

6 WHY NOT JAMES $2.4
1 GANGBUSTERS $4.2
7 TANGO MAN $4.4
2 ECO FURY $20.7
8 PHILISM $21.3
3 CASH KID $35.6

[moeee]

Man.
2 massive overlays in a row go down.
copping a bath now :(

1 race left.

[moeee]

7 SAM'S KINGDOM $2.4
1 SIMPLY CHARLIE $7.9
2 MAGIC MATCH $7.9
5 DENARO $8.9
3 OMEGA ELI $11.8
4 MIDNIGHT MISSILE $22.5
8 BURN NOTICE $16.8
6 LITTLE MASTER $29.8

[moeee]

Terrible handicapping to finish an ordinary night where started okay but a couple of large bets went astray.

Peak $7,701
Current $7,428
Loss -$273

Thank GOD thats over
Catch youse tomorrow

[woof43]

Moee, here are the raw times for the last race.
Race 12 Sale
1 30.821 0.170
2 30.588 0.205
3 30.866 0.272
4 30.614 0.340
5 30.694 0.212
6 30.907 0.319
7 30.857 0.310
8 30.954 0.273

[woof43]

Race 12 split times adjusted Meadows
1 5.185
2 5.207
3 5.183
4 5.181
5 5.222
6 5.236
7 5.244
8 5.308
Interesting on my data the #1 appears to get a nice run early, but still like the #2 whom may push off the track