GROUP1 COX PLATE - 2040M (23 Oct)

[Paddy]

1 ACTIVATION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
2 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph
3 ALBANOV (IRE) Mark Johnston
4 ALINGHI Lee Freedman
5 ASSAFA John Sadler
6 AZTECO (NZ) Mark Minervini
7 BALLYBLEUE Anthony Cummings
8 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers
9 BANDARI (IRE) Mark Johnston
10 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy
11 BEN SPARTA (NZ) George Merkulov
12 BIG POPPA PUMP Denis Daffy
13 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter
14 BRIEFING (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
15 CALORIFIC Michael Moroney
16 CAPACITY (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
17 CARPANETTO (IRE) Bart Cummings
18 CHECKIT (IRE) Mick Channon
19 CHINBOK Ross Balcombe
20 CHUT Lee Freedman
21 CITY MISS David Edwards
22 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy
23 CONSUMER Graeme Rogerson
24 CONVENTION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
25 CRIMSON PALACE (SAF) Saeed Bin Suroor
26 CROCODILE DUNDEE (IRE) Jamie Poulton
27 CUT THE CAKE (NZ) Michael Moroney
28 DANABAA Mark Kavanagh
29 DANASRI (NZ) Bart Cummings
30 DANCE HERO Gai Waterhouse
31 DANE AGAIN Lee Freedman
32 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald
33 DANE SHADOW John Hawkes
34 DANGER HAND Clinton McDonald
35 DANZIG BEST (USA) Clarry Conners
36 DARASIM (IRE) Mark Johnston
37 DEDUCTION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
38 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh
39 DENON (USA) Robert Frankel
40 DESERT MARAUDER Greg Eurell
41 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse
42 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins
43 DIAMOND HAILEY (NZ) Cliff Brown
44 DILLY DALLY Leon Macdonald
45 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker
46 DIVISION Graeme Rogerson
47 DIZZY DE LAGO John Sadler
48 DOUBLE OBSESSION (GB) Mark Johnston
49 ECONSUL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
50 ELEGANT FASHION David Hayes
51 ELTONJON Gerald Ryan
52 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil
53 EMERGENCE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
54 EPALO (GER) Andreas Schutze
55 EXPANSIVE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
56 FAR LANE (USA) Tony McEvoy
57 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry
58 FATAL ATTRACTION Lee Freedman
59 FIELDS OF OMAGH Tony McEvoy
60 FLYING ILES Clarry Conners
61 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
62 GATEMAN (GB) Mark Johnston
63 GENERAL BOOTH (NZ) Tony Vasil
64 GET UP Darryl Dodson
65 GIORGIONE Leon Corstens
66 GO STRAIGHT HOME (NZ) Bridget Flynn
67 GORYLLA (BRZ) Ken McPeek
68 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse
69 GRAPHICAL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
70 GREAT IS GREAT Greg Eurell
71 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr)
72 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh
73 HEC OF A PARTY Gai Waterhouse
74 HOLD YOUR HENNESSY David Edwards
75 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy
76 HUSTLER (NZ) Paul Harris
77 HVEGER Tony Vasil
78 IKE'S DREAM John Hawkes
79 IKHTYAR (IRE) John Gosden
80 ILLUSTRATION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
81 IMPERIAL DANCER (GB) Mick Channon
82 IRONGAIL Joseph Pride
83 KABLAMMO Danny Williams
84 KAIETEUR (USA) Brian Meehan
85 KAINUI BELLE (NZ) Wayne Hillis
86 KEMPINSKY Mick Price
87 KING OF THEM ALL Bruce Marsh
88 KING'S CHAPEL Mark Walker
89 KINGSIDE (NZ) Bart Cummings
90 KITCHENER Tricia Cox
91 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted
92 LADY OF THE DESERT Mathew Ellerton
93 LAYOUT Graeme Rogerson
94 LIVVY Tricia Cox
95 LORD FLAG (JPN) Masanori Ito
96 LORD OF THE LAND Anthony Cummings
97 MAGIC PINS (NZ) Tony Noonan
98 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman
99 MALTA Bart Cummings
100 MANTEN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
101 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie
102 MOORING'S MELODY Len Hodgson
103 MOUNT STREET (NZ) Colin Jillings
104 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards
105 MULTAZEM (USA) Dermot Weld
106 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman
107 MY CHINESE KING Gregory Hickman
108 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison
109 NATURAL WOMAN (NZ) Bruce McLachlan
110 NIAGARA FALLS Peter G Moody
111 NIELLO John Hawkes
112 NORSE DANCER (IRE) David Elsworth
113 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley
114 NOVEMBER DREAMING Bart Cummings
115 OLYMPUS Clarry Conners
116 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE (NZ) Grahame Begg
117 OUTBACK PRINCE Anthony Cummings
118 PAOLINI (GER) Andreas Wohler
119 PARACA (ARG) Robert Smerdon
120 PENITENTIARY (NZ) Richard Otto
121 PENNY GEM (NZ) Michael Moroney
122 PENTASTIC Colin Alderson
123 PERLIN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
124 PRIVATE STEER John O'Shea
125 PROCESSOR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
126 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich
127 RAKTI (GB) Michael Jarvis
128 RASASA (NZ) John Sadler
129 RECLAIM Gerald Ryan
130 REFUSE TO BEND (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor
131 ROLL ON ROYCE Gary Kennewell
132 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle
133 ROSINA LAD (NZ) David Haworth
134 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson
135 SCAREDEE CAT (NZ) Cliff Brown
136 SCOTT'S VIEW (GB) Mark Johnston
137 SCREAMING FIRE Tony McEvoy
138 SEDECREM (NZ) Colin Jillings
139 SEPTEMBER QUARTER Leon Corstens
140 SET UP Graeme Rogerson
141 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
142 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse
143 SIGHTS ON GOLD (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor
144 SILKY RED BOXER (NZ) Heather Weller
145 SIMPLE EXCHANGE (IRE) Dermot Weld
146 SING IN THE SUN (NZ) Tony Devcich
147 SINGULAR Graeme Rogerson
148 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings
149 SIR DEX Gregory Hickman
150 SOUND ACTION Roberta Maguire
151 SPECIAL HARMONY Lee Freedman
152 SPEEDY KING Graham Woolston
153 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody
154 STAR SHIRAZ Rex Lipp
155 STARCRAFT (NZ) Garry Newham
156 STELLA GRANDE Lee Freedman
157 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings
158 STRINGENT Graeme Rogerson
159 STUDEBAKER (NZ) John Hawkes
160 SUBDIVIDE Graeme Rogerson
161 SUNDAY JOY Dermot Weld
162 SURE BET Mark Minervini
163 SURVEILLANCE Graeme Rogerson
164 THE PIANIST Robert Pearse
165 THIS MANSHOOD Tim Martin
166 TINA TEMPLE (NZ) Del Roberts
167 TIPPITAKA Tony McEvoy
168 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton
169 TOULOUSE LAUTREC John Hawkes
170 TRUE GLO Lee Freedman
171 TSUIMAI Jack Denham
172 ULYSSES Tony McEvoy
173 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne
174 VESPONE (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor
175 VOCABULARY Mick Price
176 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody
177 WAY WEST Tony McEvoy
178 WEST COUNTRY Steve Englebrecht
179 WILD IRIS Guy Walter
180 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
181 ZACIELO (NZ) Peter G Moody
182 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners
183 ZALOOT (NZ) Bart Cummings
184 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter
185 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson


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May the luck of the Irish be with you!

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[Paddy]

STARCRAFT $5.00
PRIVATE STEER $6.00
SPECIAL HARMONY $7.00
GRAND ARMEE $9.00
DANCE HERO $11.00
NORTHERLY $13.00
ALINGHI $15.00
RAKTI $15.00
DELZAO $17.00
FIELDS OF OMAGH $21.00
KEMPINSKY $21.00
NIELLO $21.00
BANDARI $26.00
ELEGANT FASHION $26.00
ELVSTROEM $26.00
EPALO $26.00
REFUSE TO BEND $26.00
SIMPLE EXCHANGE $26.00
SOUND ACTION $26.00
TOULOUSE LAUTREC $26.00
WILD IRIS $26.00
POWERSCOURT $26.00
SHAMEKHA $31.00
SIGHTS ON GOLD $31.00
EXCALIBUR $31.00
CHUT $41.00
DENON $41.00
FAR LANE $41.00
FASTNET ROCK $41.00
IKHTYAR $41.00
KINGS CHAPEL $41.00
LADY OF THE DESERT $41.00
MUMMIFY $41.00
NORSE DANCER $41.00
SCOTTS VIEW $41.00
WINNING BELLE $41.00
BRIAN BORU $41.00
CRIMSON PALACE $51.00
DANE SHADOW $51.00
DESERT WAR $51.00
IMPERIAL DANCER $51.00
OUTBACK PRINCE $51.00
PAOLINI $51.00
VESPONE $51.00
VOUVRAY $51.00
CROCODILE DUNDEE $61.00
DARASIM $61.00
GATEMAN $61.00
LORD FLAG $61.00
MAKYBE DIVA $61.00
MANTEN $61.00
MULTAZEM $61.00
NATURAL BLITZ $61.00
NATURAL WOMAN $61.00
STAR OF GRETCHEN $61.00
STUDEBAKER $61.00
TRUE GLO $61.00
SOLSKJAER $61.00
CARPANETTO $71.00
CONFECTIONER $71.00
DEVASTATING $71.00
DISTINCTLY SECRET $71.00
EMERGENCE $71.00
HUGS DANCER $71.00
KAIETEUR $71.00
PARACA $71.00
PENTASTIC $71.00
STAR SHIRAZ $71.00
SUNDAY JOY $71.00
VOCABULARY $71.00
ZAGALIA $71.00
BALMUSE $81.00
CHECKIT $81.00
DANE BELLTAR $81.00
GREY SONG $81.00
IKES DREAM $81.00
MISS POTENTIAL $81.00
MR SANDGROPER $81.00
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $81.00
STRASBOURG $81.00
THIS MANSHOOD $81.00
TIPPITAKA $81.00
BALLYBLEUE $101.00
FATAL ATTRACTION $101.00
LAD OF THE MANOR $101.00
RECLAIM $101.00
SCAREDEE CAT $101.00
SET UP $101.00
AINT SEEN NOTHIN $126.00
BARELY A MOMENT $126.00
BRAELOCH $126.00
DANE AGAIN $126.00
DIZZY DE LAGO $126.00
ELTONJON $126.00
EXPANSIVE $126.00
GORYLLA $126.00
HEC OF A PARTY $126.00
ROSINA LAD $126.00
SEDECREM $126.00
SIR DEX $126.00
WEST COUNTRY $126.00
ZINGAM $126.00
DANABAA $151.00
DILLY DALLY $151.00
GREAT IS GREAT $151.00
HARD TO GET $151.00
HUSTLER $151.00
KABLAMMO $151.00
KAINUI BELLE $151.00
MOUNT STREET $151.00
PENNY GEM $151.00
SAVABEEL $151.00
SPEEDY KING $151.00
TIRADE $151.00
CONVENTION $201.00
DOUBLE OBSESSION $201.00
KINGSIDE $201.00
LORD OF THE LAND $201.00
NIAGARA FALLS $201.00
NOVEMBER DREAMING $201.00
PERLIN $201.00
ROMAN ARCH $201.00
SEUL AMOUR $201.00
SILKY RED BOXER $201.00
STRINGENT $201.00
TSUIMAI $201.00
ULYSSES $201.00
ZACIELO $201.00
ACTIVATION $301.00
ALBANOV $301.00
ASSAFA $301.00
BIG POPPA PUMP $301.00
BRIEFING $301.00
CALORIFIC $301.00
CAPACITY $301.00
CITY MISS $301.00
CONSUMER $301.00
CUT THE CAKE $301.00
DANZIG BEST $301.00
DEDUCTION $301.00
DIVISION $301.00
ECONSUL $301.00
FLYING ILES $301.00
GALLIC $301.00
GIORGIONE $301.00
GRAPHICAL $301.00
HOLD YOUR HENNESSY $301.00
HVEGER $301.00
ILLUSTRATION $301.00
KING OF THEM ALL $301.00
MAGIC PINS $301.00
MALTA $301.00
PENITENTIARY $301.00
PUBLIC OPINION $301.00
RASASA $301.00
ROLL ON ROYCE $301.00
SEPTEMBER QUARTER $301.00
SINGULAR $301.00
STELLA GRANDE $301.00
SUBDIVIDE $301.00
SURVEILLANCE $301.00
THE PIANIST $301.00
TINA TEMPLE $301.00
UNEARTHLY $301.00
WAY WEST $301.00
ZIPPING $301.00
CHINBOK $401.00
DESERT MARAUDER $401.00
GENERAL BOOTH $401.00
IRONGAIL $401.00
MOORINGS MELODY $401.00
SING IN THE SUN $401.00
AZTECO $501.00
BEN SPARTA $501.00
DANASRI $501.00
DANGER HAND $501.00
DIAMOND HAILEY $501.00
GET UP $501.00
GO STRAIGHT HOME $501.00
KITCHENER $501.00
LAYOUT $501.00
LIVVY $501.00
MY CHINESE KING $501.00
OLYMPUS $501.00
PROCESSOR $501.00
SCREAMING FIRE $501.00
SIR BEAL $501.00
SURE BET $501.00
ZALOOT $501.00

[Paddy]

NORTHERLY 12/1 !?

[maverick1993]

Northerly ?? dreams sometimes come true..

Delzao will be the one I'm keeping an eye on..

[sportznut]

Hope they don't even try. I hate it when they try to get these champions back to the track after a long break. They're normally nowhere near as good as they were and it takes away from their previous performances. It would be BRILLIANT if Northerly could come back as good as he was, but that's highly unlikely.

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[Mr ed]

yes they can jam there 12/1 where it fits, great horse, terrible value.

[Chuck]

i, for the life of me couldn't see starcraft or private steer out of the top three places...i'm tending to lean towards alinghi and delzao for outside chances also

Looks like my early picks are turning out to be good ones!!!
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Class will always prevail over fitness, when the quality of the horses is not equal.

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[syllabus23]

There is a very recent interview given to Greg Irvine by Northerly's trainer Fred Kersley.

Kersley is frank and open regarding the horses condition and his future plans for him.

This guy loves Northerly and if the horse shows any indication of being unsound, or lacks interest in racing he will be retired immediately.

The interview is currently available online and makes worthwhile reading.

[Raw Instinct]

I know it is early but I for one would be very surprised if Starcraft doesnot go very very close to winning this race I think he is the best horse in Australia right now.


Who knows what might happen over the next couple of months but he is an amazing talent and I think he is the best horse I have seen.


Delzao I think is a great chance he has been right there with Starcraft in most of there races I just wonder whether he has that brilliance to beat him time will tell like I said it is way way early.


If Rakti is here it is a huge danger haven't seen alot of the horse but I have heard some enormous wraps on it other than that I would love to see Fastnet Rock in the field aswell.

[purpleheart68]

Totally agree with the comments on Starcraft,think this is his race IF he comes up this time in.Look at Dance Hero last week,has he come back as good?Only time will tell.Certainly wouldn't sack him on that run,maybe he has remained at the same level and Charge Forward and Fastnet Rock have improved enough to enable them to be on level terms with him.Dont like Fastnet Rock racing in bandages though,seems to indicate some kind of feet problems.Hope I'm wrong.

[Mr ed]

Starcraft showed us all how amazing he is, however i think if there is one track that will undo him it will be Mooney Valley the tight corners and short straight tend to suit the front runners and he may need luck because he gets so far back in his races (i say the same for private steer). I'm not saying they cant win but i would prefer something that will lead or sit just of them like Grand Armee who is a proven Group 1 performer who's last start was a terrific 6 length win over the mighty Lohnro in the Queen Elizabeth, over 2000 (close enough to cox plate distance).

Cheers ED

[Paddy]

Exhibition gallop completed by Northerly today at Belmont. Due to return to racing 28th this month!!

Await to hear how he pulls up.

[Paddy]

Northerly has received a veterinary steward's clearance to resume racing.

Returning in either the Farnley Stakes (1400m), on August 28, or Saturday week's weight-for-age Goodwood Sprint (1300m).



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May the luck of the Irish be with you!



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[Paddy]

Prices at: 17:33:00, 15 Aug 2004 (100/1 & under)

STARCRAFT $5.00
PRIVATE STEER $6.00
SPECIAL HARMONY $8.00
GRAND ARMEE $9.00
DANCE HERO $13.00
NORTHERLY $13.00
ALINGHI $15.00
DELZAO $15.00
RAKTI $15.00
FIELDS OF OMAGH $21.00
KEMPINSKY $21.00
NIELLO $21.00
BANDARI $26.00
ELEGANT FASHION $26.00
ELVSTROEM $26.00
EPALO $26.00
REFUSE TO BEND $26.00
SOUND ACTION $26.00
TOULOUSE LAUTREC $26.00
WILD IRIS $26.00
POWERSCOURT $26.00
CRIMSON PALACE $31.00
FASTNET ROCK $31.00
MUMMIFY $31.00
SHAMEKHA $31.00
EXCALIBUR $31.00
CHUT $41.00
DENON $41.00
FAR LANE $41.00
IKHTYAR $41.00
KINGS CHAPEL $41.00
LADY OF THE DESERT $41.00
NORSE DANCER $41.00
SCOTTS VIEW $41.00
SIGHTS ON GOLD $41.00
SIMPLE EXCHANGE $41.00
WINNING BELLE $41.00
IMPERIAL DANCER $51.00
PAOLINI $51.00
BRIAN BORU $51.00
DANE AGAIN $61.00
DANE SHADOW $61.00
DARASIM $61.00
DESERT WAR $61.00
GATEMAN $61.00
LORD FLAG $61.00
MAKYBE DIVA $61.00
MANTEN $61.00
MULTAZEM $61.00
NATURAL BLITZ $61.00
NATURAL WOMAN $61.00
OUTBACK PRINCE $61.00
STUDEBAKER $61.00
TRUE GLO $61.00
VOCABULARY $61.00
VOUVRAY $61.00
SOLSKJAER $61.00
CONFECTIONER $71.00
CROCODILE DUNDEE $71.00
DEVASTATING $71.00
HUGS DANCER $71.00
IKES DREAM $71.00
KAIETEUR $71.00
PARACA $71.00
PENTASTIC $71.00
STAR OF GRETCHEN $71.00
STAR SHIRAZ $71.00
VESPONE $71.00
ZAGALIA $71.00
BALMUSE $81.00
CHECKIT $81.00
DANE BELLTAR $81.00
DISTINCTLY SECRET $81.00
GREY SONG $81.00
MISS POTENTIAL $81.00
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $81.00
STRASBOURG $81.00
SUNDAY JOY $81.00
TIPPITAKA $81.00
EMERGENCE $101.00
LAD OF THE MANOR $101.00
SCAREDEE CAT $101.00
SET UP $101.00
STRINGENT $101.00
THIS MANSHOOD $101.00

[ra sun]

very keen on grand armee for early bets. cant go past lonhro form, anywhere but moonee valley that is

[mug punta]

grand armee was a nice win beating Lonhro, and the Valley is the perfect track for that horse, but, they ran that race at a farcical pace so it's not a reliable form pointer. However, he does look a pretty safe each way bet at$9

[umrum]

I'd be very wary of backing a Gai horse in melbourne. Dance hero wants no further than 1400m imo. Northerly if comes back right, is my tip. Niello looks suited and you can't go past starcraft. All of the horses are under the odds at this stage of their preps.

[Matilda]

I like 3 yrs old in this race. Light weight.

Alinghi
Fastnet Rock
Delzao

[purpleheart68]

Grand Armee is a very good horse,but IMO not up to a Cox Plate.Don't think for one minute he will such a soft lead again.Agree about Starcraft & Private Steer not being suited to the Valley with it,s short straight,but think their experienced hoops will be a wake up to this and make their moves well before entering the straight.

[william]

CARPANETTO:
CARPANETTO MALTA NOVEMBER DREAMING
BARELY A MOMENT:
BARELY A MOMENT BIG POPPA PUMP KYLIKWONG Perfect run behind pace. Overraced early. Got clear 400, finished on.
DANE SHADOW :
SPARK OF LIFE INTO THE NIGHT DANE SHADOW not bustled 6th rail and off midfield rail turn. worked to line nicely.
REFUSE TO BEND:
SPLENDID FELLOW TALKING SWAHILI INARBUR

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[Mr ed]

I didn't think Fields of Omagh was up to a Cox Plate he is one of the biggest cats i've seen (actually a v good horse but i hate it). However once they're in the stalls its just like any other race and roughies do get up. I'm sure the Jockeys will start their runs on the backmarkers early however this in turn forces them to go very wide into the straight this is where the leading pack can pinch a break and a lot of the time its a racewinning one.

[mug punta]

Don't forget though MrEd, that this time there is No Sunline charging for home 1000m out getting all the horses of the bit. To me last years race was a furphy, I hate Bryan Martins horse also and the track was terrible that day.
I see 2 likely scenarios at this stage
Either Grand Armee will get a soft run in front and pinch a cox plate or Grand Armee will be pounded allowing for the probable best horse in the race, Starcraft, to round 'em up. He has the swiftest sprint i've seen on a middle distance horse for a long time, so I disagree when people say the Valley wont suit him.
With the Valley's high camber if you make ur run about 6-800 out, you can reach full momentum on the corner and then simply say tata to the rest of the field

[Paddy]

Prices at: 17:58:00, 22 Aug 2004 100/1 & under

No. Selection Win Place
223 Private Steer $5.00 $2.00
254 Starcraft $5.00 $2.00
167 Grand Armee $7.00 $2.50
103 Alinghi $13.00 $4.00
137 Delzao $13.00 $4.00
250 Special Harmony $13.00 $4.00
149 Elegant Fashion $21.00 $6.00
151 Elvstroem $21.00 $6.00
156 Fastnet Rock $21.00 $6.00
158 Fields of Omagh $21.00 $6.00
185 Kempinsky $21.00 $6.00
212 Northerly $21.00 $6.00
226 Rakti $21.00 $6.00
229 Refuse To Bend $21.00 $6.00
287 Powerscourt Le $21.00 $6.00
211 Norse Dancer $26.00 $7.25
279 Winning Belle $26.00 $7.25
153 Epalo $34.00 $9.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
205 Mummify $34.00 $9.25
210 Niello $34.00 $9.25
244 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
249 Sound Action $34.00 $9.25
275 Vouvray $34.00 $9.25
278 Wild Iris $34.00 $9.25
281 Zagalia $34.00 $9.25
285 Brian Boru Le $34.00 $9.25
124 Crimson Palace $51.00 $13.50
131 Dane Belltar $51.00 $13.50
132 Dane Shadow $51.00 $13.50
140 Desert War $51.00 $13.50
154 Expansive $51.00 $13.50
155 Far Lane $51.00 $13.50
172 Hec of a Party $51.00 $13.50
178 Ikhtyar $51.00 $13.50
191 Lady of The Desert $51.00 $13.50
217 Paolini $51.00 $13.50
235 Scott's View $51.00 $13.50
237 Sedecrem $51.00 $13.50
239 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
241 Shamekha $51.00 $13.50
242 Sights On Gold $51.00 $13.50
248 Sir Dex $51.00 $13.50
264 This Manshood $51.00 $13.50
273 Vespone $51.00 $13.50
286 Excalibur Le $51.00 $13.50
138 Denon $67.00 $17.50
161 Gateman $67.00 $17.50
177 Ike's Dream $67.00 $17.50
183 Kaieteur $67.00 $17.50
194 Lord Flag $67.00 $17.50
204 Multazem $67.00 $17.50
268 Toulouse Lautrec $67.00 $17.50
269 True Glo $67.00 $17.50
288 Solskjaer Le $67.00 $17.50
106 Ballybleue $101.00 $26.00
108 Bandari $101.00 $26.00
117 Checkit $101.00 $26.00
119 Chut $101.00 $26.00
121 Confectioner $101.00 $26.00
125 Crocodile Dundee $101.00 $26.00
141 Devastating $101.00 $26.00
144 Distinctly Secret $101.00 $26.00
150 Eltonjon $101.00 $26.00
175 Hustler $101.00 $26.00
180 Imperial Dancer $101.00 $26.00
182 Kablammo $101.00 $26.00
197 Makybe Diva $101.00 $26.00
207 Natural Blitz $101.00 $26.00
216 Outback Prince $101.00 $26.00
220 Penny Gem $101.00 $26.00
221 Pentastic $101.00 $26.00
232 Rosina Lad $101.00 $26.00
251 Speedy King $101.00 $26.00
252 Star of Gretchen $101.00 $26.00
253 Star Shiraz $101.00 $26.00
260 Sunday Joy $101.00 $26.00
266 Tippitaka $101.00 $26.00
274 Vocabulary $101.00 $26.00

[Paddy]

Prices at: 21:00:00, 28 Aug 2004 100/1 & under

223 Private Steer $4.00 $1.75
254 Starcraft $4.00 $1.75
167 Grand Armee $7.50 $2.60
103 Alinghi $13.00 $4.00
137 Delzao $13.00 $4.00
250 Special Harmony $15.00 $4.50
149 Elegant Fashion $21.00 $6.00
151 Elvstroem $21.00 $6.00
156 Fastnet Rock $21.00 $6.00
158 Fields of Omagh $21.00 $6.00
185 Kempinsky $21.00 $6.00
212 Northerly $21.00 $6.00
226 Rakti $21.00 $6.00
229 Refuse To Bend $21.00 $6.00
287 Powerscourt Le $21.00 $6.00
211 Norse Dancer $26.00 $7.25
279 Winning Belle $26.00 $7.25
153 Epalo $34.00 $9.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
205 Mummify $34.00 $9.25
210 Niello $34.00 $9.25
244 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
249 Sound Action $34.00 $9.25
275 Vouvray $34.00 $9.25
278 Wild Iris $34.00 $9.25
281 Zagalia $34.00 $9.25
285 Brian Boru Le $34.00 $9.25
124 Crimson Palace $51.00 $13.50
131 Dane Belltar $51.00 $13.50
132 Dane Shadow $51.00 $13.50
140 Desert War $51.00 $13.50
154 Expansive $51.00 $13.50
155 Far Lane $51.00 $13.50
172 Hec of a Party $51.00 $13.50
178 Ikhtyar $51.00 $13.50
191 Lady of The Desert $51.00 $13.50
217 Paolini $51.00 $13.50
235 Scott's View $51.00 $13.50
237 Sedecrem $51.00 $13.50
239 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
241 Shamekha $51.00 $13.50
242 Sights On Gold $51.00 $13.50
248 Sir Dex $51.00 $13.50
264 This Manshood $51.00 $13.50
273 Vespone $51.00 $13.50
286 Excalibur Le $51.00 $13.50
130 Dane Again $67.00 $17.50
138 Denon $67.00 $17.50
161 Gateman $67.00 $17.50
177 Ike's Dream $67.00 $17.50
183 Kaieteur $67.00 $17.50
194 Lord Flag $67.00 $17.50
204 Multazem $67.00 $17.50
268 Toulouse Lautrec $67.00 $17.50
269 True Glo $67.00 $17.50
288 Solskjaer Le $67.00 $17.50
106 Ballybleue $101.00 $26.00
108 Bandari $101.00 $26.00
117 Checkit $101.00 $26.00
119 Chut $101.00 $26.00
121 Confectioner $101.00 $26.00
125 Crocodile Dundee $101.00 $26.00
141 Devastating $101.00 $26.00
144 Distinctly Secret $101.00 $26.00
150 Eltonjon $101.00 $26.00
175 Hustler $101.00 $26.00
180 Imperial Dancer $101.00 $26.00
182 Kablammo $101.00 $26.00
197 Makybe Diva $101.00 $26.00
207 Natural Blitz $101.00 $26.00
216 Outback Prince $101.00 $26.00
220 Penny Gem $101.00 $26.00
221 Pentastic $101.00 $26.00
232 Rosina Lad $101.00 $26.00
251 Speedy King $101.00 $26.00
252 Star of Gretchen $101.00 $26.00
253 Star Shiraz $101.00 $26.00
260 Sunday Joy $101.00 $26.00
266 Tippitaka $101.00 $26.00

[Paddy]

Current market 50/1 & under

223 Private Steer $4.00 $1.75
254 Starcraft $4.00 $1.75
167 Grand Armee $8.00 $2.75
103 Alinghi $11.00 $3.50
137 Delzao $13.00 $4.00
156 Fastnet Rock $13.00 $4.00
226 Rakti $15.00 $4.50
250 Special Harmony $15.00 $4.50
149 Elegant Fashion $21.00 $6.00
158 Fields of Omagh $21.00 $6.00
185 Kempinsky $21.00 $6.00
212 Northerly $21.00 $6.00
229 Refuse To Bend $21.00 $6.00
287 Powerscourt Le $21.00 $6.00
151 Elvstroem $26.00 $7.25
211 Norse Dancer $26.00 $7.25
279 Winning Belle $26.00 $7.25
153 Epalo $34.00 $9.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
205 Mummify $34.00 $9.25
210 Niello $34.00 $9.25
244 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
249 Sound Action $34.00 $9.25
275 Vouvray $34.00 $9.25
278 Wild Iris $34.00 $9.25
281 Zagalia $34.00 $9.25
285 Brian Boru Le $34.00 $9.25
124 Crimson Palace $51.00 $13.50
131 Dane Belltar $51.00 $13.50
132 Dane Shadow $51.00 $13.50
140 Desert War $51.00 $13.50
154 Expansive $51.00 $13.50
155 Far Lane $51.00 $13.50
172 Hec of a Party $51.00 $13.50
178 Ikhtyar $51.00 $13.50
191 Lady of The Desert $51.00 $13.50
217 Paolini $51.00 $13.50
235 Scott's View $51.00 $13.50
237 Sedecrem $51.00 $13.50
239 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
241 Shamekha $51.00 $13.50
242 Sights On Gold $51.00 $13.50
248 Sir Dex $51.00 $13.50
264 This Manshood $51.00 $13.50
273 Vespone $51.00 $13.50
286 Excalibur Le $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 ALBANOV (IRE) Mark Johnston 58
2 AZTECO (NZ) Mark Minervini 58
3 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers 58
4 BANDARI (IRE) Mark Johnston 58
5 BEN SPARTA (NZ) George Merkulov 58
6 BRIAN BORU (GB) Aidan O'Brien 58
7 CHECKIT (IRE) Mick Channon 58
8 DANGER HAND Clinton McDonald 58
9 DANZIG BEST (USA) Clarry Conners 58
10 DARASIM (IRE) Mark Johnston 58
11 DENON (USA) Robert Frankel 58
12 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 58
13 DOUBLE OBSESSION (GB) Mark Johnston 58
14 EPALO (GER) Andreas Schutz 58
15 EXCALIBUR (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 58
16 FAR LANE (USA) Tony McEvoy 58
17 FIELDS OF OMAGH Tony McEvoy 58
18 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 58
19 GATEMAN (GB) Mark Johnston 58
20 GENERAL BOOTH (NZ) Tony Vasil 58
21 GET UP Darryl Dodson 58
22 GO STRAIGHT HOME (NZ) Bridget Flynn 58
23 GORYLLA (BRZ) Ken McPeek 58
24 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse 58
25 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 58
26 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 58
27 HUSTLER (NZ) Paul Harris 58
28 IKHTYAR (IRE) John Gosden 58
29 IMPERIAL DANCER (GB) Mick Channon 58
30 KABLAMMO Danny Williams 58
31 KAIETEUR (USA) Brian Meehan 58
32 KING OF THEM ALL Bruce Marsh 58
33 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted 58
34 LORD FLAG (JPN) Masanori Ito 58
35 MALTA Bart Cummings 58
36 MOORING'S MELODY Len Hodgson 58
37 MULTAZEM (USA) Dermot Weld 58
38 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 58
39 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 58
40 NORSE DANCER (IRE) David Elsworth 58
41 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley 58
42 PAOLINI (GER) Andreas Wohler 58
43 PENTASTIC Colin Alderson 58
44 PERLIN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 58
45 POWERSCOURT (GB) Aidan O'Brien 58
46 RAKTI (GB) Michael Jarvis 58
47 REFUSE TO BEND (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 58
48 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 58
49 ROSINA LAD (NZ) David Haworth 58
50 SCOTT'S VIEW (GB) Mark Johnston 58
51 SCREAMING FIRE Tony McEvoy 58
52 SEDECREM (NZ) Colin Jillings 58
53 SIGHTS ON GOLD (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 58
54 SILKY RED BOXER (NZ) Heather Weller 58
55 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings 58
56 SOLSKJAER (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 58
57 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 58
58 STUDEBAKER (NZ) John Hawkes 58
59 SURE BET Mark Minervini 58
60 THIS MANSHOOD Tim Martin 58
61 TRUE GLO Lee Freedman 58
62 VESPONE (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 58
63 WEST COUNTRY Steve Englebrecht 58
64 ZACIELO (NZ) Peter G Moody 58
65 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter 58
66 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter 56.5
67 CHINBOK Ross Balcombe 56.5
68 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy 56.5
69 CUT THE CAKE (NZ) Michael Moroney 56.5
70 DANASRI (NZ) Bart Cummings 56.5
71 DANE AGAIN Lee Freedman 56.5
72 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 56.5
73 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 56.5
74 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins 56.5
75 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 56.5
76 EXPANSIVE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 56.5
77 GREAT IS GREAT Greg Eurell 56.5
78 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh 56.5
79 KEMPINSKY Mick Price 56.5
80 KING'S CHAPEL Mark Walker 56.5
81 KINGSIDE (NZ) Bart Cummings 56.5
82 KITCHENER Tricia Cox 56.5
83 LORD OF THE LAND Anthony Cummings 56.5
84 MOUNT STREET (NZ) Colin Jillings 56.5
85 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards 56.5
86 MY CHINESE KING Gregory Hickman 56.5
87 NIELLO John Hawkes 56.5
88 NOVEMBER DREAMING Bart Cummings 56.5
89 OLYMPUS Clarry Conners 56.5
90 PENITENTIARY (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 56.5
91 RECLAIM Gerald Ryan 56.5
92 ROLL ON ROYCE Gary Kennewell 56.5
93 SCAREDEE CAT (NZ) Cliff Brown 56.5
94 SET UP Graeme Rogerson 56.5
95 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 56.5
96 SIR DEX Gregory Hickman 56.5
97 SPEEDY KING Graham Woolston 56.5
98 STARCRAFT (NZ) Garry Newham 56.5
99 TOULOUSE LAUTREC John Hawkes 56.5
100 TSUIMAI Jack Denham 56.5
101 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 55.5
102 CRIMSON PALACE (SAF) Saeed Bin Suroor 55.5
103 ELEGANT FASHION David Hayes 55.5
104 HEC OF A PARTY Gai Waterhouse 55.5
105 IRONGAIL Joseph Pride 55.5
106 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 55.5
107 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie 55.5
108 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE (NZ) Grahame Begg 55.5
109 PARACA (ARG) Robert Smerdon 55.5
110 PENNY GEM (NZ) Michael Moroney 55.5
111 PRIVATE STEER John O'Shea 55.5
112 SING IN THE SUN (NZ) Tony Devcich 55.5
113 SOUND ACTION Roberta Maguire 55.5
114 SUNDAY JOY Dermot Weld 55.5
115 TINA TEMPLE (NZ) Del Roberts 55.5
116 VOCABULARY Mick Price 55.5
117 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 55.5
118 CROCODILE DUNDEE (IRE) Jamie Poulton 55
119 SIMPLE EXCHANGE (IRE) Dermot Weld 55
120 DANABAA Mark Kavanagh 54
121 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald 54
122 DESERT MARAUDER Greg Eurell 54
123 DIAMOND HAILEY (NZ) Cliff Brown 54
124 DILLY DALLY Leon Macdonald 54
125 FATAL ATTRACTION Lee Freedman 54
126 IKE'S DREAM John Hawkes 54
127 KAINUI BELLE (NZ) Wayne Hillis 54
128 LIVVY Tricia Cox 54
129 NATURAL WOMAN (NZ) Bruce McLachlan 54
130 NIAGARA FALLS Peter G Moody 54
131 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse 54
132 SPECIAL HARMONY Lee Freedman 54
133 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 54
134 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne 54
135 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 54
136 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 54
137 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 54
138 ZALOOT (NZ) Bart Cummings 54
139 ACTIVATION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
140 ASSAFA John Sadler 48.5
141 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy 48.5
142 BIG POPPA PUMP Denis Daffy 48.5
143 BRIEFING (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
144 CALORIFIC Michael Moroney 48.5
145 CHUT Lee Freedman 48.5
146 CONVENTION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
147 DANCE HERO Gai Waterhouse 48.5
148 DANE SHADOW John Hawkes 48.5
149 DIVISION Graeme Rogerson 48.5
150 ECONSUL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
151 ELTONJON Gerald Ryan 48.5
152 EMERGENCE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
153 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry 48.5
154 FLYING ILES Clarry Conners 48.5
155 GIORGIONE Leon Corstens 48.5
156 GRAPHICAL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
157 ILLUSTRATION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
158 LAYOUT Graeme Rogerson 48.5
159 MAGIC PINS (NZ) Tony Noonan 48.5
160 MANTEN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
161 OUTBACK PRINCE Anthony Cummings 48.5
162 PROCESSOR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
163 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich 48.5
164 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 48.5
165 SEPTEMBER QUARTER Leon Corstens 48.5
166 SINGULAR Graeme Rogerson 48.5
167 STELLA GRANDE Lee Freedman 48.5
168 STRINGENT Graeme Rogerson 48.5
169 SUBDIVIDE Graeme Rogerson 48.5
170 SURVEILLANCE Graeme Rogerson 48.5
171 THE PIANIST Robert Pearse 48.5
172 TIPPITAKA Tony McEvoy 48.5
173 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton 48.5
174 ULYSSES Tony McEvoy 48.5
175 WAY WEST Tony McEvoy 48.5
176 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson 48.5
177 ALINGHI Lee Freedman 46
178 BALLYBLEUE Anthony Cummings 46
179 CAPACITY (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 46
180 CITY MISS David Edwards 46
181 CONSUMER Graeme Rogerson 46
182 DEDUCTION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 46
183 DIZZY DE LAGO John Sadler 46
184 HOLD YOUR HENNESSY David Edwards 46
185 HVEGER Tony Vasil 46
186 LADY OF THE DESERT Mathew Ellerton 46
187 RASASA (NZ) John Sadler 46
188 STAR SHIRAZ Rex Lipp 46

[Paddy]

Down to 79 - first declarations.
Northerly still included.


1 BANDARI (IRE) Mark Johnston 58
2 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 58
3 EPALO (GER) Andreas Schutz 58
4 FAR LANE (USA) Tony McEvoy 58
5 FIELDS OF OMAGH Tony McEvoy 58
6 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse 58
7 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 58
8 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 58
9 IKHTYAR (IRE) John Gosden 58
10 KAIETEUR (USA) Brian Meehan 58
11 MALTA Bart Cummings 58
12 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 58
13 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 58
14 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley 58
15 PAOLINI (GER) Andreas Wohler 58
16 PENTASTIC Colin Alderson 58
17 POWERSCOURT (GB) Aidan O'Brien 58
18 RAKTI (GB) Michael Jarvis 58
19 REFUSE TO BEND (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 58
20 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 58
21 ROSINA LAD (NZ) David Haworth 58
22 SEDECREM (NZ) Colin Jillings 58
23 SILKY RED BOXER (NZ) Heather Weller 58
24 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings 58
25 THIS MANSHOOD Tim Martin 58
26 TRUE GLO Lee Freedman 58
27 VESPONE (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 58
28 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter 58
29 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter 56.5
30 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 56.5
31 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 56.5
32 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 56.5
33 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh 56.5
34 KEMPINSKY Mick Price 56.5
35 KING'S CHAPEL Mark Walker 56.5
36 KINGSIDE (NZ) Bart Cummings 56.5
37 MOUNT STREET (NZ) Colin Jillings 56.5
38 NIELLO John Hawkes 56.5
39 RECLAIM Gerald Ryan 56.5
40 SCAREDEE CAT (NZ) Cliff Brown 56.5
41 SET UP Graeme Rogerson 56.5
42 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 56.5
43 SPEEDY KING Graham Woolston 56.5
44 STARCRAFT (NZ) Garry Newham 56.5
45 TSUIMAI Jack Denham 56.5
46 ELEGANT FASHION David Hayes 55.5
47 HEC OF A PARTY Gai Waterhouse 55.5
48 IRONGAIL Joseph Pride 55.5
49 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 55.5
50 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie 55.5
51 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE (NZ) Grahame Begg 55.5
52 PARACA (ARG) Robert Smerdon 55.5
53 PENNY GEM (NZ) Michael Moroney 55.5
54 PRIVATE STEER John O'Shea 55.5
55 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 55.5
56 SIMPLE EXCHANGE (IRE) Dermot Weld 55
57 DANABAA Mark Kavanagh 54
58 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald 54
59 DILLY DALLY Leon Macdonald 54
60 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse 54
61 SPECIAL HARMONY Lee Freedman 54
62 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 54
63 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne 54
64 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 54
65 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 54
66 ZALOOT (NZ) Bart Cummings 54
67 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy 48.5
68 CHUT Lee Freedman 48.5
69 ECONSUL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48.5
70 ELTONJON Gerald Ryan 48.5
71 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry 48.5
72 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich 48.5
73 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 48.5
74 SINGULAR Graeme Rogerson 48.5
75 STRINGENT Graeme Rogerson 48.5
76 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton 48.5
77 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson 48.5
78 ALINGHI Lee Freedman 46
79 LADY OF THE DESERT Mathew Ellerton 46

[Church22]

So paraca is in the cox plate...

[Paddy]

Yes Church22 Paraca is still in the field & at juicy odds if you fancy it :wink:

[Paddy]

Eleven internationals remain in the Cox Plate field:

Refuse to Bend (IRE) - Saeed bin Suroor
Vespone (IRE) - Saeed bin Suroor
Elegant Fashion (HKG) - David Hayes
Powerscourt (IRE) - Aidan O'Brien
Simple Exchange (IRE) - Dermot Weld
Ikhtyar (IRE) - John Gosden
Bandari (IRE) - Mark Johnston
Epalo (GER) -Andreas Schutz
Paolini (GER) - Andreas Wohler
Rakti (GB) - Michael Jarvis
Kaieteur (USA) - Brian Meehan

[Paddy]

Current odds

Private Steer $3.75 $1.65
Starcraft $3.75 $1.65
Grand Armee $8.00 $2.75
Alinghi $11.00 $3.50
Delzao $13.00 $4.00
Fastnet Rock $13.00 $4.00
Rakti $15.00 $4.50
Special Harmony $15.00 $4.50
Northerly $17.00 $5.00
Fields of Omagh $21.00 $6.00
Kempinsky $21.00 $6.00
Refuse To Bend $21.00 $6.00
Elegant Fashion $26.00 $7.25
Elvstroem $26.00 $7.25
Winning Belle $26.00 $7.25
Powerscourt Le $26.00 $7.25
Epalo $34.00 $9.25
King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
Niello $34.00 $9.25
Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
Zagalia $34.00 $9.25
Chut $51.00 $13.50
Far Lane $51.00 $13.50
Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
Ikhtyar $51.00 $13.50
Lady of The Desert $51.00 $13.50
Mummify $51.00 $13.50
Paolini $51.00 $13.50
Vespone $51.00 $13.50
Wild Iris $51.00 $13.50
Dane Belltar $67.00 $17.50
Desert War $67.00 $17.50
Kaieteur $67.00 $17.50
Pentastic $67.00 $17.50
Sedecrem $67.00 $17.50
Set Up $67.00 $17.50
Shamekha $67.00 $17.50
True Glo $67.00 $17.50
Hec of a Party $81.00 $21.00
This Manshood $81.00 $21.00
Bandari $101.00 $26.00
Distinctly Secret $101.00 $26.00
Makybe Diva $101.00 $26.00
Natural Blitz $101.00 $26.00
Paraca $101.00 $26.00
Rosina Lad $101.00 $26.00
Star of Gretchen $101.00 $26.00
Penny Gem $126.00 $32.25
Roman Arch $126.00 $32.25
Speedy King $126.00 $32.25
Braeloch $151.00 $38.50
Dilly Dally $151.00 $38.50
Eltonjon $151.00 $38.50
Grey Song $151.00 $38.50
Miss Potential $151.00 $38.50
Our Egyptian Raine $151.00 $38.50
Reclaim $151.00 $38.50
Savabeel $151.00 $38.50
Seul Amour $151.00 $38.50
Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $38.50
Unearthly $151.00 $38.50
Zingam $151.00 $38.50
Barely a Moment $201.00 $51.00
Danabaa $201.00 $51.00
Hard To Get $201.00 $51.00
Scaredee Cat $201.00 $51.00
Stringent $201.00 $51.00
Tirade $201.00 $51.00
Tsuimai $201.00 $51.00
Zipping $201.00 $51.00
Irongail $251.00 $63.50
Kingside $251.00 $63.50
Mount Street $251.00 $63.50
Singular $251.00 $63.50
Econsul $301.00 $76.00
Malta $301.00 $76.00
Public Opinion $301.00 $76.00
Sir Beal $301.00 $76.00
Zaloot $301.00 $76.00

[purpleheart68]

going for a bit of early value with Rakti e/w@ $15 already backed Starcraft a while back @ $5.50.Don't think Private Steer can win this,and certainly not getting caught in the hype surrounding Alinghi.

[Paddy]

Current market after a good weekend of racing - 50/1 & under:


223 Private Steer $3.75 $1.65
254 Starcraft $3.75 $1.65
167 Grand Armee $8.00 $2.75
103 Alinghi $11.00 $3.50
137 Delzao $11.00 $3.50
156 Fastnet Rock $13.00 $4.00
212 Northerly $15.00 $4.50
226 Rakti $15.00 $4.50
250 Special Harmony $17.00 $5.00
158 Fields of Omagh $21.00 $6.00
185 Kempinsky $21.00 $6.00
229 Refuse To Bend $21.00 $6.00
149 Elegant Fashion $26.00 $7.25
151 Elvstroem $26.00 $7.25
279 Winning Belle $26.00 $7.25
287 Powerscourt Le $26.00 $7.25
153 Epalo $34.00 $9.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
210 Niello $34.00 $9.25
244 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
281 Zagalia $34.00 $9.25
119 Chut $51.00 $13.50
155 Far Lane $51.00 $13.50
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
178 Ikhtyar $51.00 $13.50
191 Lady of The Desert $51.00 $13.50
205 Mummify $51.00 $13.50
217 Paolini $51.00 $13.50
273 Vespone $51.00 $13.50
278 Wild Iris $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

Current market after another good weekend of racing - 50/1 & under:

254 Starcraft $3.00 $1.50
223 Private Steer $3.75 $1.65
167 Grand Armee $6.50 $2.35
212 Northerly $7.50 $2.60
103 Alinghi $11.00 $3.50
137 Delzao $11.00 $3.50
156 Fastnet Rock $13.00 $4.00
151 Elvstroem $17.00 $5.00
158 Fields of Omagh $21.00 $6.00
226 Rakti $21.00 $6.00
229 Refuse To Bend $21.00 $6.00
250 Special Harmony $21.00 $6.00
149 Elegant Fashion $26.00 $7.25
185 Kempinsky $26.00 $7.25
287 Powerscourt Le $26.00 $7.25
153 Epalo $34.00 $9.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
207 Natural Blitz $34.00 $9.25
244 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
279 Winning Belle $34.00 $9.25
281 Zagalia $34.00 $9.25
119 Chut $51.00 $13.50
155 Far Lane $51.00 $13.50
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
178 Ikhtyar $51.00 $13.50
197 Makybe Diva $51.00 $13.50
205 Mummify $51.00 $13.50
217 Paolini $51.00 $13.50
273 Vespone $51.00 $13.50
278 Wild Iris $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 58
2 EPALO (GER) Andreas Schutz 58
3 FIELDS OF OMAGH Tony McEvoy 58
4 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse 58
5 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 58
6 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 58
7 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 58
8 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley 58
9 PAOLINI (GER) Andreas Wohler 58
10 PENTASTIC Colin Alderson 58
11 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 58
12 SILKY RED BOXER (NZ) Heather Weller 58
13 TRUE GLO Lee Freedman 58
14 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 56.5
15 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 56.5
16 KEMPINSKY Mick Price 56.5
17 KING'S CHAPEL Mark Walker 56.5
18 KINGSIDE (NZ) Bart Cummings 56.5
19 RECLAIM Gerald Ryan 56.5
20 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 56.5
21 STARCRAFT (NZ) Garry Newham 56.5
22 ELEGANT FASHION David Hayes 55.5
23 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 55.5
24 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie 55.5
25 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE (NZ) Grahame Begg 55.5
26 PARACA (ARG) Robert Smerdon 55.5
27 PRIVATE STEER John O'Shea 55.5
28 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 55.5
29 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse 54
30 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 54
31 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne 54
32 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 54
33 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 54
34 CHUT Lee Freedman 48.5
35 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry 48.5
36 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich 48.5
37 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 48.5
38 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton 48.5
39 LADY OF THE DESERT Mathew Ellerton 46

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market - all remaining nominations:

254 Starcraft $3.00 $1.50
223 Private Steer $4.00 $1.75
167 Grand Armee $6.00 $2.25
212 Northerly $7.50 $2.60
137 Delzao $10.00 $3.25
151 Elvstroem $10.00 $3.25
156 Fastnet Rock $13.00 $4.00
158 Fields of Omagh $13.00 $4.00
149 Elegant Fashion $21.00 $6.00
153 Epalo $21.00 $6.00
185 Kempinsky $26.00 $7.25
217 Paolini $26.00 $7.25
281 Zagalia $26.00 $7.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
207 Natural Blitz $34.00 $9.25
119 Chut $41.00 $11.00
197 Makybe Diva $41.00 $11.00
221 Pentastic $41.00 $11.00
241 Shamekha $41.00 $11.00
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
278 Wild Iris $51.00 $13.50
279 Winning Belle $51.00 $13.50
144 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $17.50
191 Lady of The Desert $81.00 $21.00
200 Miss Potential $101.00 $26.00
218 Paraca $101.00 $26.00
252 Star of Gretchen $101.00 $26.00
269 True Glo $101.00 $26.00
231 Roman Arch $126.00 $32.25
267 Tirade $126.00 $32.25
170 Grey Song $151.00 $38.50
215 Our Egyptian Raine $151.00 $38.50
228 Reclaim $151.00 $38.50
233 Savabeel $151.00 $38.50
243 Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $38.50
272 Unearthly $151.00 $38.50
240 Seul Amour $201.00 $51.00
188 Kingside $251.00 $63.50
225 Public Opinion $301.00 $76.00

[Paddy]

Three internationals remain in the Cox Plate field:

Elegant Fashion (HKG) - David Hayes
Epalo (GER) -Andreas Schutz
Paolini (GER) - Andreas Wohler

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market - all remaining nominations:

254 Starcraft $3.00 $1.50
223 Private Steer $4.00 $1.75
167 Grand Armee $6.00 $2.25
212 Northerly $7.50 $2.60
137 Delzao $10.00 $3.25
151 Elvstroem $10.00 $3.25
156 Fastnet Rock $13.00 $4.00
158 Fields of Omagh $13.00 $4.00
149 Elegant Fashion $21.00 $6.00
153 Epalo $21.00 $6.00
185 Kempinsky $26.00 $7.25
217 Paolini $26.00 $7.25
281 Zagalia $26.00 $7.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
197 Makybe Diva $41.00 $11.00
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
207 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
221 Pentastic $51.00 $13.50
241 Shamekha $51.00 $13.50
278 Wild Iris $51.00 $13.50
279 Winning Belle $51.00 $13.50
119 Chut $67.00 $17.50
144 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $17.50
215 Our Egyptian Raine $67.00 $17.50
191 Lady of The Desert $101.00 $26.00
200 Miss Potential $101.00 $26.00
218 Paraca $101.00 $26.00
231 Roman Arch $126.00 $32.25
267 Tirade $126.00 $32.25
269 True Glo $126.00 $32.25
170 Grey Song $151.00 $38.50
228 Reclaim $151.00 $38.50
233 Savabeel $151.00 $38.50
243 Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $38.50
252 Star of Gretchen $151.00 $38.50
272 Unearthly $151.00 $38.50
240 Seul Amour $201.00 $51.00
188 Kingside $251.00 $63.50
225 Public Opinion $301.00 $76.00

[demister jay]

Good to hear that Private Steer is back on track and fully recovered from that injury she sustained after being kicked by a stablemate. Reported she had a strong track gallop at Moonee Valley on Saturday morning.

[addari]

Looking forward to this race. Could end up one of the better Cox Plates of recent years, with regards to overall field quality.

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market, 50/1 & under:

No. Selection Win Place
223 Private Steer $4.00 $1.75
254 Starcraft $4.50 $1.85
151 Elvstroem $5.00 $2.00
167 Grand Armee $6.50 $2.35
212 Northerly $9.00 $3.00
158 Fields of Omagh $11.00 $3.50
137 Delzao $17.00 $5.00
156 Fastnet Rock $17.00 $5.00
149 Elegant Fashion $21.00 $6.00
197 Makybe Diva $21.00 $6.00
153 Epalo $26.00 $7.25
217 Paolini $26.00 $7.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
207 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
221 Pentastic $51.00 $13.50
233 Savabeel $51.00 $13.50
279 Winning Belle $51.00 $13.50
281 Zagalia $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

Market movement – current top 10

Private Steer $4.00 WAS $4.00
Starcraft $4.50 WAS $3.00
Elvstroem $5.00 WAS $10.00
Grand Armee $6.50 WAS $6.00
Northerly $9.00 WAS $7.50
Fields of Omagh $11.00 WAS $13.00
Delzao $17.00 WAS $10.00
Fastnet Rock $17.00 WAS $13.00
Elegant Fashion $21.00 WAS $21.00
Makybe Diva $21.00 WAS $41.00

[Paddy]

Third Acceptances:

No Horse Trainer Weight
1 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 58
2 FIELDS OF OMAGH Tony McEvoy 58
3 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse 58
4 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 58
5 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 58
6 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley 58
7 PAOLINI (GER) Andreas Wohler 58
8 PENTASTIC Colin Alderson 58
9 SILKY RED BOXER (NZ) Heather Weller 58
10 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 56.5
11 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 56.5
12 KING'S CHAPEL Mark Walker 56.5
13 STARCRAFT (NZ) Garry Newham 56.5
14 ELEGANT FASHION David Hayes 55.5
15 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 55.5
16 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie 55.5
17 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE (NZ) Grahame Begg 55.5
18 PRIVATE STEER John O'Shea 55.5
19 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 55.5
20 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 54
21 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry 48.5
22 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich 48.5
23 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 48.5
24 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton 48.5

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
254 Starcraft $3.75 $1.65
223 Private Steer $4.00 $1.75
151 Elvstroem $6.00 $2.25
167 Grand Armee $6.00 $2.25
212 Northerly $9.00 $3.00
158 Fields of Omagh $11.00 $3.50
137 Delzao $17.00 $5.00
156 Fastnet Rock $17.00 $5.00
149 Elegant Fashion $21.00 $6.00
197 Makybe Diva $21.00 $6.00
217 Paolini $26.00 $7.25
187 King's Chapel $34.00 $9.25
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
207 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
221 Pentastic $51.00 $13.50
233 Savabeel $51.00 $13.50
279 Winning Belle $51.00 $13.50
281 Zagalia $51.00 $13.50
215 Our Egyptian Raine $67.00 $17.50
144 Distinctly Secret $81.00 $21.00
267 Tirade $81.00 $21.00
200 Miss Potential $126.00 $32.25
243 Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $38.50
225 Public Opinion $301.00 $76.00

[Paddy]

Current market excluding Private Steer & Northerly:


No. Selection Win Place
254 Starcraft $2.50 $1.25
151 Elvstroem $4.50 $1.65
167 Grand Armee $4.50 $1.65
158 Fields of Omagh $7.50 $2.50
149 Elegant Fashion $13.00 $3.50
137 Delzao $15.00 $4.50
156 Fastnet Rock $17.00 $5.00
197 Makybe Diva $17.00 $4.00
217 Paolini $17.00 $4.00
187 King's Chapel $21.00 $5.00
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $13.50
221 Pentastic $51.00 $11.00
233 Savabeel $51.00 $11.00
279 Winning Belle $51.00 $13.50
281 Zagalia $51.00 $11.00
207 Natural Blitz $67.00 $17.50
215 Our Egyptian Raine $67.00 $17.50
267 Tirade $67.00 $15.00
144 Distinctly Secret $101.00 $21.00
200 Miss Potential $126.00 $21.00
243 Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $38.50
225 Public Opinion $301.00 $51.00

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

Selection Win Place
Grand Armee $3.25 $1.40
Starcraft $3.50 $1.40
Elvstroem $4.00 $1.65
Fields of Omagh $7.00 $2.10
Elegant Fashion $9.00 $3.00
Delzao $15.00 $4.50
King's Chapel $15.00 $4.50
Makybe Diva $17.00 $4.00
Paolini $17.00 $4.00
Fastnet Rock $21.00 $4.50
Savabeel $26.00 $6.00
Hugs Dancer $34.00 $11.00
Winning Belle $34.00 $7.50
Zagalia $34.00 $7.50
Distinctly Secret $51.00 $13.50
Natural Blitz $67.00 $17.50
Our Egyptian Raine $67.00 $17.50
Pentastic $67.00 $11.00
Miss Potential $126.00 $21.00
Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $38.50
Tirade $151.00 $15.00
Public Opinion $301.00 $51.00

[Paddy]

Market movement – current top 10:

Selection NOW WAS
Grand Armee $3.25 $4.50
Starcraft $3.50 $2.50
Elvstroem $4.00 $4.50
Fields of Omagh $7.00 $7.50
Elegant Fashion $9.00 $13.00
Delzao $15.00 $15.00
King's Chapel $15.00 $21.00
Makybe Diva $17.00 $17.00
Paolini $17.00 $17.00
Fastnet Rock $21.00 $17.00

[Raw Instinct]

There are but 2 horses that I currently see out there right now that I believe could beat Starcraft in the Cox plate that is Elvstroem and the import Paolini I actually would have given a chance to Balmuse but he doesn't seem to be in it for some reason considering the Kelt was automatic qualification. I think he is by far the best horse in NZ impresses everytime he goes out.

[Matilda]

Elvstroem is still in all 3 big races. Hope he can clean up all 3...Ha! ha!

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
167 Grand Armee $3.50 $1.55
254 Starcraft $3.50 $1.60
151 Elvstroem $4.00 $1.60
149 Elegant Fashion $9.00 $2.75
197 Makybe Diva $9.00 $2.75
158 Fields of Omagh $11.00 $3.00
289 Regal Roller $13.00 $4.00
187 King's Chapel $15.00 $4.50
217 Paolini $21.00 $5.00
233 Savabeel $21.00 $5.00
137 Delzao $26.00 $5.50
215 Our Egyptian Raine $34.00 $6.00
144 Distinctly Secret $51.00 $13.50
156 Fastnet Rock $51.00 $11.00
174 Hugs Dancer $51.00 $9.25
279 Winning Belle $51.00 $9.25
281 Zagalia $51.00 $9.25
207 Natural Blitz $101.00 $17.50
200 Miss Potential $126.00 $32.25
243 Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $38.50
267 Tirade $151.00 $38.50
225 Public Opinion $301.00 $76.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

Selection NOW WAS

Grand Armee $3.50 $3.25
Starcraft $3.50 $3.50
Elvstroem $4.00 $4.00
Elegant Fashion $9.00 $9.00
Makybe Diva $9.00 $17.00
Fields of Omagh $11.00 $7.00
Regal Roller $13.00 Late Entry
King's Chapel $15.00 $15.00
Paolini $21.00 $17.00
Savabeel $21.00 $26.00
Delzao $26.00 $15.00
Our Egyptian Raine $34.00 $67.00
Distinctly Secret $51.00 $51.00
Fastnet Rock $51.00 $21.00
Hugs Dancer $51.00 $34.00
Winning Belle $51.00 $34.00
Zagalia $51.00 $34.00
Natural Blitz $101.00 $67.00
Miss Potential $126.00 $126.00
Silky Red Boxer $151.00 $151.00
Tirade $151.00 $151.00
Public Opinion $301.00 $301.00
Pentastic Eliminated $67.00

[puntersteve]

Looks like one of the strongest Cox Plates I've seen for a while.

[Church22]

Will Our Egyptian Raine run in the Cox Plate and does it have a chance of winning??

[Raw Instinct]

From all reports yea Our Egytian Raine will run and no I wouldn't rate it much hope at all flat out beating an average field there yesterday over 1400m thrashed by Desert War over 1600m and we all saw where it finished yesterday with no aparent excuses so going on that it has no hope whatsoever.

[byanose]

On 2004-10-17 14:25, Church22 wrote:
Will Our Egyptian Raine run in the Cox Plate and does it have a chance of winning??


MV should suit over the 2040M if can get an easy run otherwise there is doubt over the distance imo.

[Mr ed]

I dont think she has a realistic chance of winning, she looked like she didn't get the 1600 of the epsom and now they want to run over 2040 in the hardest race we have to offer.

[Sandgroper]

On 2004-10-17 14:25, Church22 wrote:
Will Our Egyptian Raine run in the Cox Plate and does it have a chance of winning??


Corey Brown has been booked to ride Our Egyptian Raine in the Cox, so I guess question 1 is answered.

As for question 2, have to agree with previous posts. 1400M and below suits this mare best and I can’t see her getting a cushy run in the Cox with the talent involved.


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[puntersteve]

Does anyone fancy Savabeel?
I think it has a great EW show.

[Mr ed]

Well if you listen to Graeme Rogerson it sounds like a absolute certainty. He rates Savabeel well above Enconsul and Cedar Manor and it looks as if the 2040 will suit perfectly. Meets them with 48.5 and could just take all the running down in the world.

[puntersteve]

Thanks Mr ed. Might just have another bet EW.

[Paddy]

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse D Oliver 3 58
2 PAOLINI (GER) Andreas Wohler E Pedroza 11 58
3 REGAL ROLLER Clinton McDonald M Flaherty 4 58
4 FIELDS OF OMAGH Tony McEvoy D Nikolic 7 58
5 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison S Baster 2 58
6 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil N Rawiller 8 56.5
7 STARCRAFT (NZ) Garry Newham G Boss 1 56.5
8 KING'S CHAPEL Mark Walker D Beadman 9 56.5
9 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh Steven King 10 56.5
10 ELEGANT FASHION David Hayes G Mosse 5 55.5
11 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE (NZ) Grahame Begg C Brown 12 55.5
12 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie B R Jones 13 55.5
13 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson C Munce 6 48.5





OFFICIAL THREAD TIPPING PAST THIS POINT


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[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
254 Starcraft $3.25 $1.65
151 Elvstroem $4.00 $1.65
167 Grand Armee $4.50 $1.75
149 Elegant Fashion $11.00 $3.00
158 Fields of Omagh $13.00 $3.50
289 Regal Roller $13.00 $4.00
233 Savabeel $17.00 $5.00
187 King's Chapel $21.00 $4.50
137 Delzao $26.00 $6.00
217 Paolini $26.00 $6.00
215 Our Egyptian Raine $34.00 $4.00
207 Natural Blitz $67.00 $17.50
200 Miss Potential $126.00 $21.00

[puntersteve]

Savabeel EW.

[Seeker11]

At the moment I can only narrow it down to 6 runners (half the field)! For what its worth my numbers are Tab Nos: 1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 13. I will hope to reduce my selections by Friday
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may the horse be with you

Seeker

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[moeee]

Don't know nuffin' 'bout 'nuffin but I do know that Fields of Omagh is the best quality horse in the race.
And 9 times out of 10 the best quality horse wins the COX PLATE.

[rabbitz]

First Four Boxed
Grand Armee
Savabeel
Elegant Fahion
Starcraft
Cheers :cool:

[rabbitz]

First Four Boxed
Grand Armee
Savabeel
Elegant Fashion
Starcraft
Cheers :cool:

[Seeker11]

Over the space of a few hours and with some though I have knocked out Regal Roller (for now) as I think he will go out too strong too early and be gone before the final 200m. Not that I want to I love Regal Roller.

I have also looked at Elegant Fashion's Hong Kong Form and it is pretty impressive. 15 placings of 17 starts in the last two years including 7 placings at 2000m (1st:2, 2nd:3, 3rd:2). It was be interesting to see how it handles the Moonee Valley track

[moeee]

So what are you saying Rabbitz?
That we should take it for 2 units?

[Raw Instinct]

I love the fact that Starcraft drew one barrier where a few people have thought that it wasn't that great I thought it was perfect. Atleast from one barrier he just has to settle not get all the way across from a wide barrier where he could end up dead last settling I do not think he will get that far back probably just off midfield.


I am getting more and more excited about his chances in this I truly think there is one horse that can beat him and that is Elvstroem other than that I just don't feel they are quite there with them.

[nashy]

FIELDS OF OMAGH
SAVABEEL
ELVSTROEM
ELEGANT FASHION

Let us know your thoughts on these picks...

[moeee]

My thoughts are that you pulled them names out of a hat.
Hope they are good to you because I will be having $10 on Fields of Omagh.

[rabbitz]

On 2004-10-19 18:57, moeee wrote:
So what are you saying Rabbitz?
That we should take it for 2 units?

Or put your house on it whatever is the greater value!
Cheers :cool:

[purpleheart68]

Moee,you have just reinforced my opinion on your insight and I only wish you had not sprayed it on here.The horse that is proven at the track and distance haven won it last year,top trainer,top jockey,conditions to suit,good barrier,good odds.Lash out mate,double your bet,I'm with ya!!
P.S.
don't post your MC tips!!Email them to me!!

[moeee]

Flattered big time.
Like I said,don't know the front end of a horse from the rear.
Just know what I know and the best horses win the best race.
Have picked Arwon,What a nuisance and possibly a couple of others.
But when a horse like Black Knight wins a Melbourne Cup,I lose a bit of respect for the race.
You only need a horse that has stamina,not to be the grit and determination that real champions show.
Of course horses like Makybe Diva appear to have both,but if he was a true champion he would have got Elvstroem on the line.
Like to see one of those pommie horses win a Cox Plate.
Ain't gonna happen coz they ain't the champions they are made out to be.
Only stamina.

[Mr ed]

He's a She
Moeee

[umrum]

I'll be having a big crack at Grand armee. I'm going over for the cox. cant wait

[mug punta]

On 2004-10-19 20:16, Raw Instinct wrote:
I love the fact that Starcraft drew one barrier where a few people have thought that it wasn't that great I thought it was perfect. Atleast from one barrier he just has to settle not get all the way across from a wide barrier where he could end up dead last settling I do not think he will get that far back probably just off midfield.


I am getting more and more excited about his chances in this I truly think there is one horse that can beat him and that is Elvstroem other than that I just don't feel they are quite there with them.

Couldnt agree more. Really like ELVESTROM, STARCRAFT AND ELEGANT FASHION who ran an awesome 3rd to FALBRAV lasy year in honkers.
Will be keying those 3 in tri's.

[moeee]

Thanks Mr Ed.
Front,back,top,underneath.
All the same to me.
Wonder what Bryan Martin would look like without the moustache.
Who's the one who hates Fields of Omaugh?
Bet you've never bin closer'n 100 metres of 'im.
Leave him be.He's a good horse.3 days to go!

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:


Selection Win Price Place Price

STARCRAFT $3.00 $1.50
GRAND ARMEE $4.75 $1.70
ELVSTROEM $5.00 $1.70
SAVABEEL $9.00 $3.00
ELEGANT FASHION $11.00 $3.00
REGAL ROLLER $13.00 $4.00
FIELDS OF OMAGH $16.00 $4.50
KING'S CHAPEL $21.00 $6.00
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $21.00 $4.00
DELZAO $34.00 $7.25
PAOLINI $41.00 $9.25
NATURAL BLITZ $101.00 $21.00
MISS POTENTIAL $151.00 $26.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

Selection Now Was

STARCRAFT $3.00 $3.25
GRAND ARMEE $4.75 $4.50
ELVSTROEM $5.00 $4.00
SAVABEEL $9.00 $17.00
ELEGANT FASHION $11.00 $11.00
REGAL ROLLER $13.00 $13.00
FIELDS OF OMAGH $16.00 $13.00
KING'S CHAPEL $21.00 $21.00
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $21.00 $34.00
DELZAO $34.00 $26.00
PAOLINI $41.00 $26.00
NATURAL BLITZ $101.00 $67.00
MISS POTENTIAL $151.00 $126.00

[moeee]

Mo the weather man reporting for duty.
To those who have any interest in Fields of Omaugh.Remember what happenned last year.Paid about $7 but you could have got $20 two days before.Suggest you take the $16 now,in case it pisses down tomorrow.

[Seeker11]

On 2004-10-21 09:59, moeee wrote:
Mo the weather man reporting for duty.
To those who have any interest in Fields of Omaugh.Remember what happenned last year.Paid about $7 but you could have got $20 two days before.Suggest you take the $16 now,in case it pisses down tomorrow.



Straight from the Bureau of Meteorology, forcast for Melbourne for the next couple of days

Friday A shower or two developing.
Min 14 Max 24

Saturday Showers.
Min 13 Max 18



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Seeker

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[umrum]

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[Matilda]

Elegent Fashion
Starcraft
Elvstroem
FOO (if D.Nikolic is not riding - he is injured)else, Our Egyptian Raine/Grand Armee

Not against Nikolic but see where Mummify ended in C.Cup?

[Even Stevens]

6 ELVSTROEM
13 SAVABEEL
7 STARCRAFT
4 FIELDS OF OMAGH

[purpleheart68]

If you back Elvstroem you will do your dough.It won't run a place.Horses that win Cox Plates are set specifically THAT race,and do not come via the Caulfield Cup.I have a high opinion of this horse as my previous posts will vindicate,even when I kept tipping it last time in ,and a certain poster kept calling it a cat.The 2 horses that have been specifically aimed at this race are FOO and Starcraft,and to a lesser extent Grand Armee.They are the only REAL chances,unless you care to listen to G.Rodgerson regards Savabeel.IMO Starcraft is a lay down misere,just depends on the ride.

[Geez]

Grand Armee
King's Chapel
Savabeel
Starcraft

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
007 Starcraft $3.00 $1.50
006 Elvstroem $4.00 $1.60
001 Grand Armee $5.00 $1.75
013 Savabeel $9.00 $3.00
010 Elegant Fashion $11.00 $3.00
003 Regal Roller $13.00 $4.00
004 Fields of Omagh $17.00 $4.60
011 Our Egyptian Raine $21.00 $4.00
008 King's Chapel $26.00 $6.00
009 Delzao $34.00 $7.25
002 Paolini $41.00 $9.25
005 Natural Blitz $101.00 $21.00
012 Miss Potential $151.00 $26.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

No. Selection Now Was
007 Starcraft $3.00 $3.00
006 Elvstroem $4.00 $5.00
001 Grand Armee $5.00 $4.75
013 Savabeel $9.00 $9.00
010 Elegant Fashion $11.00 $11.00
003 Regal Roller $13.00 $13.00
004 Fields of Omagh $17.00 $16.00
011 Our Egyptian Raine $21.00 $21.00
008 King's Chapel $26.00 $21.00
009 Delzao $34.00 $34.00
002 Paolini $41.00 $41.00
005 Natural Blitz $101.00 $101.00
012 Miss Potential $151.00 $151.00

[syllabus23]

1) Regal Roller
2) Starcraft
3) Elvstroem

[feather]

Starcraft
Savabeel
Grand Armee
Elegant Fashion

[Church22]

No one has gone near Our Egyptian Raine..

I think its a fantastic chance for a place.. and could even win it with a good sit.. down in weight and good jockey..

[xptdriver]

Gday All...

Sticking my neck out here so it will probably get chopped. Ah well thats racing tho..

I think Starcraft is over rated and consequently over bet. It may well win the Plate but not with my money. When Elegant Fashion was running around here I made nice money on her, and I see no need to jump off. I would have thought Elvis was a special but for the going back in distance. Gai has done the right thing with Grand Armee and kept a low profile. As another poster mentioned Our Egyptian Raine hsn't been mentioned, she won well last week and is a good chance a place. The unkown is Paolini. Summing up I like:

10 Elegant Fashion
6 Elvstroem
11 Our Egyptian Raine
1 Grand Armee

with the rider of watch Paolini.

having said that I could very well miss the winner, it is a verey difficult race.

[mug punta]

Well churchy we are on different wave lengths again. I dont know how you give Our Egyptian Raine any hope but good luck to ya. He'll probly come out and do a PICKETT!!

I only think there are 3 winning hopes
1- Elvestrom. With so much pace in the race this will be a war of attrition. Any horse that is a bit of a squib will be found out.
That was a gutsy win last week, and most horses would have let Makybe go straight past them.

2- Elegant Fashion. world class, loves the 200om. Has been set ONLY for this race by a super trainer.

3- Starcraft. The up and comer. Just a bit concerned that he isnt quite a 2000m horse. Dont worry about all this rubbish that he will get to far back. Boss is a super rider and will put him into the race, no problems, but I just wonder if the last 200 is a knock em down war that he can go past Elvestrom

For my tri's I will be throwing in Regal Roller, flying but will struggle the last 200m to hold on.
Savabeel, who may run ok with the light weight.
Grand Armee, may plug on for the place but I dont think can win.
Roughie is Natural Blitz but only if the rain has not come by that stage.
Good luck to all having a bet.

[Seeker11]

I think it would be easier to say who won't win but here are my selections for the Cox Plate:

Elegant Fashion
Grand Armee
Starcraft
Elvestrom
Savabeel

No surpises if FOO RR or OER salute either...
As for betting I might have to leave this race alone

[Chuck]

Starcraft
Elvstroem
Fields of Omagh
Grand Armee
Regal Roller

[Matilda]

Listened to MOEEE to pick out from the hat and guess who I have got...Grand Armee. Not once but consecutive 3 times!!!. That is when I bet Runyon to win at 33/1 years back when he was on drugs. Won 12K+ on that race. Should I bet on G.Armee this race?.

Have change my selection now to

Grand Armee, Elvstroem, Field Of Omagh, Our Egyptian Raine.

Eliminated EF (all placing were soft placing) and Starcraft (Barrier 1 and Balmuse who finish back in the C.Cup breezed thru him and he can't even catch Mummify and G.Armee in Yalumba)

Quinella on G.Armee, Elvs and OER...

[moeee]

Hard to say this without sounding rude to you Matilda,but judging on your position in the comp. leader board,I reckon the hats gotta be worth a try.
Tell you what.I'll have $10 on it as well.
And was that 3 times out of 3 tries!

[Matilda]

Yes---3 out of 3.

Go Grand Armee...

[dundas lane]

Had my first shekel on him back in May.

Since that time, I've backed him again on seven different occasions; I'll probably have another "go" tomorrow.

He got out to silly odds; ($3.40), before the Derby last Autumn when they all said he couldn't win. They're saying the same things again!

Hardest to beat; perhaps only bad luck.

Good punting.


dundas lane.......

[smidgin]

Grand Armee
Regal Roller
Elegant Fashion
Starcraft

[Raw Instinct]

Starcraft
Elvstroem
Paolini
Fields of Omagh

[kiwiz]

Kings Chapel EW

[maverick1993]

Delzao
King's Chapel
Elegant fashion
Starcraft

[Mark]

With all the talk of a speed battle, most jockeys are saying that they will sit back and swoop at the end. If Regal Roller can get a soft lead, with the rest watching each other, he might just be able to pinch this. We'll know after about 600m.

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No Selection Win Price Place Price

007 STARCRAFT $3.50 $1.55
006 ELVSTROEM $4.00 $1.70
001 GRAND ARMEE $5.00 $1.85
013 SAVABEEL $9.00 $3.00
010 ELEGANT FASHION $10.00 $3.25
003 REGAL ROLLER $11.00 $3.50
004 FIELDS OF OMAGH $19.00 $4.50
011 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $21.00 $4.00
008 KING'S CHAPEL $26.00 $6.00
009 DELZAO $34.00 $7.25
002 PAOLINI $51.00 $11.00
005 NATURAL BLITZ $101.00 $15.00
012 MISS POTENTIAL $151.00 $26.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

No Selection Now Was

007 STARCRAFT $3.50 $3.00
006 ELVSTROEM $4.00 $4.00
001 GRAND ARMEE $5.00 $5.00
013 SAVABEEL $9.00 $9.00
010 ELEGANT FASHION $10.00 $11.00
003 REGAL ROLLER $11.00 $13.00
004 FIELDS OF OMAGH $19.00 $17.00
011 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $21.00 $21.00
008 KING'S CHAPEL $26.00 $26.00
009 DELZAO $34.00 $34.00
002 PAOLINI $51.00 $41.00
005 NATURAL BLITZ $101.00 $101.00
012 MISS POTENTIAL $151.00 $151.00

[shaven]

Savabeel **
Grand Armee
Kings Chapel
Elvstroem

[blinkerz]

no. 3 Regal Roller
no. 10 Elegant Fashion
no. 7 Starcraft
no. 2 Paolini

[bl4dez]

REGAL ROLLER
ELVSTROEM
STARCRAFT
GRAND ARMEE

[Hammers]

For those tipping Regal Roller, don't forget Miss Potential is in the race. RR will be wishing he was back running a cushy 1400-1600 at Caulfield as they pass the school at MV. Sprinter milers simply never win this race.

Either Starcraft or Grand Armee should win with Paolini a smoky.

[Paddy]

Track good, all starting.

[goldmember]

GRAND ARMEE e/w *
STARCRAFT
REGAL ROLLER
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE

[wasgoner]

#4 FIELDS OF OMAGH
#1 GRAND ARMEE
#10 ELEGANT FASHION
#13 SAVABEEL

[thefanatic]

No 6 Elvstroem
No 7 Starcraft
No 9 Delzao
No 1 Grand Armee

[Paddy]

Final fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
007 Starcraft $3.75 $1.75
006 Elvstroem $4.00 $1.75
001 Grand Armee $5.50 $2.10
010 Elegant Fashion $9.00 $2.50
013 Savabeel $9.00 $3.00
003 Regal Roller $12.00 $3.75
004 Fields of Omagh $19.00 $4.50
008 King's Chapel $26.00 $6.00
011 Our Egyptian Raine $26.00 $4.00
009 Delzao $41.00 $7.25
002 Paolini $51.00 $11.00
005 Natural Blitz $126.00 $17.50
012 Miss Potential $126.00 $21.00

[Raw Instinct]

I just cannot rate any of those horses with Savabeel winning that race sorry but that is average we are talking about a horse that barely beat an average field in sydney last start I love Starcraft but he isnot that great got a good run but was not good enough none of them were. All I can say is that this makes horse racing here in australia look extremely average.

[Northerly]

I think you're right Raw.
I don't like to bag our Racing but I backed Savabeel in the Champion Stks but gave him no hope today. I guess the 9.5kg FOO had to give him told in the straight.
Also, the fields were average today.
Best fields this Spring were on Caulfield Guineas day.

[jimmyc_dogs]

i just cant see how the jockey on elvstroum could let him get so far back, he led all the way in the caulfield cup (2400m) why couldnt he be leading or atleast mid field in todays race (2040m), he was basically at the tail with no chance..........

although i did see him begin to fly down the outside only to be blocked by the jockey wearing orange colours..........

still im a little poorer tonight, and very dissapointed :sad:

jimmy

[maverick1993]

i think you are all being to hard on starcraft..he had no room at all couldnt even get started he's a big horse that got the worst barrier he could get...he did well to finish 3rd..
Savabeel had the best run ....FOO wasnt in the form he was last year .

[Chrome Prince]

On 2004-10-23 21:19, jimmyc_dogs wrote:
i just cant see how the jockey on elvstroum could let him get so far back, he led all the way in the caulfield cup (2400m) why couldnt he be leading or atleast mid field in todays race (2040m), he was basically at the tail with no chance..........

although i did see him begin to fly down the outside only to be blocked by the jockey wearing orange colours..........

still im a little poorer tonight, and very dissapointed :sad:

jimmy


Dead on jimmy_c,

Elvstroem was never given a chance to be in the finish. Jumped a little awkwardly and was settled close to the rear, you don't want to be at the rear on the home turn in a Cox Plate - what were they thinking?

[crash]

Savabeel's win as a 3yr old just showed what a weak field the Cox Plate had and the hype about Starcraft is just that, hype. I doubt the horse will ever win in the Melb. way of going and seems a very over rated horse. Can't believe the bookie's didn't jump all over the owner's $1 mil. bet for the 5/1 he wanted.

Backed Savabeel to win [and in the comp] but left the rest of the races at the Valley alone. It's a bit of a dog track and I think you have got to look for track specialists and keep away from back markers to win at the Valley.

Bomber Bill's easy as you please win as a 9yr. old was a pointer to how weak these so called 'Group' spring races are becoming. Some of these runners are coming from night meetings and even a couple of first time city starters.

[sportznut]

On 2004-10-24 06:42, crash wrote:
the hype about Starcraft is just that, hype. I doubt the horse will ever win in the Melb. way of going


He already has Crash. He did that at his first run in Melbourne.

[crash]

Hi Sportz. Thanks for the correction, but I was thinking about the big races here and his failure in the Yallumba getting a long way back suggested a loser in the Cox. A horse has to race on the pace in this race.

Starcraft's NZ group wins [and failures there to] aren't anything to brag about and nor is 9 wins from 17 starts. NZ group races [most group 1 races there have prize pools of less than $175,000] hardly match up to Group races here, although I think our group standard is on a downward spiral.

[crash]

Hi Sportz. Thanks for the correction, but I was thinking about the big races here and his failure in the Yallumba getting a long way back suggested a loser in the Cox. A horse has to race on the pace in this race.

Starcraft's NZ group wins [and failures there to] aren't anything to brag about and nor is 9 wins from 17 starts. NZ group races [most group 1 races there have prize pools of less than $175,000] hardly match up to Group races here, although I think our group standard is on a downward spiral.

[Paddy]

07 CARLTON COX PLATE
WFA
2040 Metres
3:30pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE
2ND LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
13 9.30 2.60
4.............4.00
7.............2.10
SPINNER (MIXED) 1.60
QUINELLA 77.30
EXACTA 182.90
TRIFECTA 762.60
FIRST4 3588.90
(13-4-7-1)
SPECIAL DIV 11.00

(13) SAVABEEL
( 4) FIELDS OF OMAGH
( 7) STARCRAFT

SCR - NIL
QUADRELLA SUB - 7

[Paddy]

SAVABEEL selected by puntersteve, rabbitz, nashy, Even Stevens, Geez, feather, Seeker11, shaven & wasgoner

FIELDS OF OMAGH selected by moeee, nashy, Matilda, Even Stevens, Chuck_3000, Raw Instinct & wasgoner


STARCRAFT selected by rabbitz, Raw Instinct, Even Stevens, Geez, syllabus23, feather, mug punta, Seeker11, Chuck_3000, smidgin, Raw Instinct, maverick1993, blinkerz, bl4dez, Hammers, goldmember & thefanatic



GRAND ARMEE selected by rabbitz, umrum, Geez, feather, xptdriver, Seeker11, Chuck_3000, Matilda, smidgin, shaven, bl4dez, Hammers, goldmember, wasgoner & thefanatic

[Paddy]

Thread covered all multiples including the first4.


Congratulations go to Even Steven who selected the tri ($762.60). Well done!

[Raw Instinct]

Starcraft just showed yesterday he is not even close to a 2000m horse and quite honestly after seeing the race again Paolini was the only horse I could make an excuse for wide almost all the way and I think he stuck on fairly well.


Jus heard that they are now planning to spell Starcraft and he will not run past a mile again he will be hard to beat at that range regardless what he did yesterday he is still a good horse at the sprint range.

[moeee]

Question to Paddy.
What's a SPINNER entail predicting?

And Matilda,you know that hat?.Keep it on your head.

[topsy99]

thought it a great win and masterful ride.
munce occuplied the spot that starcraft should have pursued from barrier one.

on the pace and move at the turn in the cox plate.
great run by fields of omagh. starcraft was a good effort.
surprised at the way grand armee was off the pace.
he is better than that.
a good race. certainly not as disappointing as some would have it.
rogerson told us his horse was a champion. wonder he has to do to convince us.
(i did have something on him)
(took his word for it)

[purpleheart68]

Gonna do a "rogie"mouth off here....
I noyiced that nearly everyone on this thread put Elvstroem in somewhere.If you read my post on page 6 you will see I declared it could not win,and tipped 4 horses which where IMO the only real chances.
I got the winner quinella 10 times,trifecta5 times and the first4@1 unit.All in all a BIG day for me.Yes,I'm CROWING.GOYOUGOODTHING!!!
The only bet I lost was $100 on Starcraft.

[rabbitz]

On 2004-10-24 13:03, purpleheart68 wrote:
Gonna do a "rogie"mouth off here....
I noyiced that nearly everyone on this thread put Elvstroem in somewhere.If you read my post on page 6 you will see I declared it could not win,and tipped 4 horses which where IMO the only real chances.
I got the winner quinella 10 times,trifecta5 times and the first4@1 unit.All in all a BIG day for me.Yes,I'm CROWING.GOYOUGOODTHING!!!
The only bet I lost was $100 on Starcraft.
Just curious purpleheart 68
with those trifecta bets and first four did you box them or do standouts
If so what did it cost,because by my calculations you cleaned up around $9 g's

[dundas lane]

Disappointed the Big Fella couldn't sprint quicker than he did the last 200m, although that's not really his go; a good effort to get as close as he did in the finish.

The most curious thing for me to come out of the race was the number of poor rides. If you backed Elegant Fashion and thought you were a bit stiff in the straight; you're right. Problem with that thought is; she never should have been where she was in the first place! At the 1000m when Munce knew he had to move on Zavabeel (and did), should have sounded the alarm bells in G.Mosse's head. His next move is to do nothing! He sits inside a sprinter, OER and behind a miler, Regal Roller, unbelievable! It was the picture perfect advertisement for local jockeys you'll ever see.

The only two jockeys to leave their settled positions first, were the first two past the post; great rides by both Munce and Nikolic. Of the others, Boss on Starcraft and those directly behind him on the rail could do nothing until someone else first created pace or space and neither ever eventuated. Paolini caught 3 wide the entire trip proved nothing else but nuisance value although no jockey in the 1 wide lane endeavoured to improve their position until it was all too late. Rawiller on Elvstroem was just plain stiff. Missed the jump, angles for a trail at the rear with no resultant pace, baulked for a run at the top of the straight; a neither here nor there result for both connections and backers.


dundas lane .......

[Northerly]

good analysis Dunda,

agree with all of them.
Also, Grand Armee was inconvenienced by Elegant Fashion early causing him to lose his position and get further back than expected (I expected him to box seat).
Delzao made up late ground, not sure if was just passing tired horses or that was looking for further, as it looked like he was out-sprinted down the side.

[umrum]

oliver's ride was a shocker. rode grand armee upside down. would have won if ridden correctly.