Group1 FRUIT ‘N’ VEG STAKES - 1800M (Ascot 12 Dec)

[Paddy]

Final Field

Form No. Horse Age Weight Trainer

1321 1. Modem 6G 58.0 Trevor Andrews
7671 2. Finito 8G 58.0 Phil Humann
6074 3. Tumeric 8G 58.0 Alan Mathews
3443 4. Blevvo 7G 58.0 David Harrison
0611 5. True Steel 7G 58.0 Maxine Payne
1573 6. Blinded 6G 58.0 Chris Stelmach
0408 7. Capadan (NZ) 6G 58.0 Ross McDonald
5367 8. Prince Of Vasac 5G 58.0 Bernadine Dudley
2326 9. Dead Eye Dick 5G 58.0 Brad Graham
1032 10. Mr Sandgroper 4G 57.5 David Edwards
6122 11. Laetare 4G 57.5 Ted Martinovich
0300 12. Dedicated Miss 7M 55.5 Geoff Durrant
7735 13. Free At Last (NZ) 6M 55.5 Alan Mathews
1121 14. Dr John 3G 51.0 Ross Price
EMERGENCY RUNNERS
4112 15. Who Did It (E1) 5G 58.0 Vivienne Ferrier
4315 16. The Black Cigar (E2) 3C 51.0 Debby Thom
0100 17. Priceless Matt (E3) 5G 58.0 Fred Kersley
3700 18. Secret Link (E4) 5G 58.0 Fred Kersley

[Paddy]

Current EW fixed odds

MR SANDGROPER $3.00
MODEM $3.70
TRUE STEEL $9.50
BLINDED $10.00
FINITO $10.00
DR JOHN $10.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $17.00
LAETARE $18.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00
BLEVVO $26.00
DEAD EYE DICK $26.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $26.00
CAPADAN $41.00
TUMERIC $51.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $101.00

[sportznut]

Why is it on Sunday???

[Paddy]

Why is it on Sunday???


On the subject of the Ascot summer carnival, there's a new format this year for 4 of the most popular race dates of the carnival, condensing these into a week-long timeframe as follows:

Saturday, December 4 - Railway Stakes.
Wednesday, December 8 – Listed Jungle Dawn Classic.
Saturday, December 11 - Colonel Reeves Stakes.
Sunday, December 12 - Fruit ‘n’ Veg Stakes.

Going to be a great week!


New format implemented by the WATC. Will be interesting to see just how things pan out, and if they stick to the new format for next year or revert back to the old.

[umrum]

Sandgroper the bet of the "carnival".

Savers on Laetare, Blinded and my big worry is true steel. Has once this race before and is absolutely flying of late.

[sportznut]

Stupid idea I reckon. Don't mind the 4 days racing, but as a Group 1, this race should be on the Saturday. That's still definitely the main punting day for most people.

[umrum]

Stupid idea I reckon. Don't mind the 4 days racing, but as a Group 1, this race should be on the Saturday. That's still definitely the main punting day for most people.


I haven't spoken to a person yet who likes the "carnival" in it's current format.
I think it should be two huge days of racing. The railway and the guineas and the prince of wales. Then the week after the fruit n veg, colonel reeves and a couple of other listed events that they have. today is a waste of two good races.

[Paddy]

I haven't spoken to a person yet who likes the "carnival" in it's current format.
I think it should be two huge days of racing. The railway and the guineas and the prince of wales. Then the week after the fruit n veg, colonel reeves and a couple of other listed events that they have. today is a waste of two good races.


Sounds good to me umrum. Also agree with you about today, could have at the very least been added to weekend program/s, rather than mid-week with most West Aussies at work.

[sportznut]

Are the Hong Kong international races on this week??? I assume they must want to run the Fruit & Veg Stks in conjunction with them. That's the only possible reason I can think of for running a Group 1 race on a Sunday.

As for today's feature races, I agree that it's a waste having them on a Wednesday. If it was a public holiday, I could understand, but it's not.

[Paddy]

Latest EW fixed odds:

MR SANDGROPER $3.30
MODEM $3.80
TRUE STEEL $7.50
DR JOHN $8.00
BLINDED $9.00
FINITO $11.00
LAETARE $18.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00
CAPADAN $31.00
DEAD EYE DICK $31.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $35.00
BLEVVO $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $81.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

Horse Current odds Previous odds
MR SANDGROPER $3.30 $3.00
MODEM $3.80 $3.70
TRUE STEEL $7.50 $9.50
DR JOHN $8.00 $10.00
BLINDED $9.00 $10.00
FINITO $11.00 $10.00
LAETARE $18.00 $18.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00 $18.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00 $17.00
CAPADAN $31.00 $41.00
DEAD EYE DICK $31.00 $26.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $35.00 $26.00
BLEVVO $51.00 $26.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00 $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00 $51.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $81.00 $51.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00 $101.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00 $101.00

[Modem]

<1>Modem
<10> Mr Sandgroper
<6> Blinded
<14> Dr John

[Paddy]

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 MODEM T M Andrews P J Harvey 7 58
2 FINITO P H Humann D J Staeck 2 58
3 TUMERIC Alan Mathews J P Claite 8 58
4 BLEVVO D R Harrison 16 58
5 TRUE STEEL Mrs M M Payne C L Staples 9 58
6 BLINDED C A Stelmach J J Brown 5 58
7 CAPADAN (NZ) Ross McDonald M Flaherty 10 58
8 PRINCE OF VASAC Mrs B M Dudley P J Carbery 18 58
9 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham P D Knuckey 6 58
10 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards P King 17 57.5
11 LAETARE E A Martinovich D A O'Heare 11 57.5
12 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 1 55.5
13 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews T K Turner 3 55.5
14 DR JOHN Ross Price L Camilleri 15 51
15E WHO DID IT V G Ferrier 12 58
16E THE BLACK CIGAR D Thom 13 51
17E PRICELESS MATT Fred Kersley 14 58
18E SECRET LINK Fred Kersley 4 58

[gum stumpa]

MR SANDGROPER
FREE AT LAST
MODEM
DEAD EYE DICK

[Paddy]

BLEVVO to be ridden by Ms A D Sansom

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

MR SANDGROPER $3.30
MODEM $4.00
TRUE STEEL $5.50
DR JOHN $8.00
BLINDED $9.50
FINITO $11.00
LAETARE $18.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00
CAPADAN $31.00
DEAD EYE DICK $31.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $41.00
BLEVVO $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $71.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

Horse Previous odds Current odds
MR SANDGROPER $3.30 $3.30
MODEM $3.80 $4.00
TRUE STEEL $7.50 $5.50
DR JOHN $8.00 $8.00
BLINDED $9.00 $9.50
FINITO $11.00 $11.00
LAETARE $18.00 $18.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00 $18.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00 $21.00
CAPADAN $31.00 $31.00
DEAD EYE DICK $31.00 $31.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $35.00 $41.00
BLEVVO $51.00 $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00 $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00 $61.00
WHO DID IT (1E) 81.00 $71.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00 $126.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00 $126.00

[pipedream]

2) FINITO
11) LAETARE
10) MR SANDGROPER
1) MODEM

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds:


MR SANDGROPER $3.50
MODEM $4.00
TRUE STEEL $5.50
DR JOHN $8.00
BLINDED $10.00
FINITO $12.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00
LAETARE $21.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00
DEAD EYE DICK $23.00
CAPADAN $31.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $31.00
BLEVVO $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $81.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:


Horse Previous Win Current Win
MR SANDGROPER $3.30 $3.50
MODEM $4.00 $4.00
TRUE STEEL $5.50 $5.50
DR JOHN $8.00 $8.00
BLINDED $9.50 $10.00
FINITO $11.00 $12.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00 $18.00
LAETARE $18.00 $21.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00 $21.00
DEAD EYE DICK $31.00 $23.00
CAPADAN $31.00 $31.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $41.00 $31.00
BLEVVO $51.00 $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00 $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00 $61.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $71.00 $81.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00 $126.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00 $126.00

[roman@oz]

FREE AT LAST
LAETARE
MR SANDGROPER
BLEVVO

[4theboyz]

(14) DR JOHN
(13) FREE AT LAST
(10) MR SANDGROPER
(6) BLINDED

[Paddy]

Current EW fixed odds:

MR SANDGROPER $3.50
MODEM $4.20
TRUE STEEL $5.50
DR JOHN $8.50
BLINDED $10.00
FINITO $12.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00
DEAD EYE DICK $21.00
LAETARE $21.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00
CAPADAN $26.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $26.00
BLEVVO $41.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $81.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:


Horse Previous Win Current Win
MR SANDGROPER $3.50 $3.50
MODEM $4.00 $4.20
TRUE STEEL $5.50 $5.50
DR JOHN $8.00 $8.50
BLINDED $10.00 $10.00
FINITO $12.00 $12.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00 $18.00
DEAD EYE DICK $23.00 $21.00
LAETARE $21.00 $21.00
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00 $21.00
CAPADAN $31.00 $26.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $31.00 $26.00
BLEVVO $51.00 $41.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00 $51.00
TUMERIC $61.00 $61.00
WHO DID IT (1E) $81.00 $81.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00 $126.00
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00 $126.00



DR JOHN looks a nice EW bet.

[Chenille Prince]

Modem
Dr John
Finito
Mr Sandgroper

[partypooper]

Common sense = Modem
Gut = Capadan
PPM = Dedicated Miss


If all fail , getting out stakes on Local Product in the Tatts

[Paddy]

Track fast, scratched 15 - Who Did It, 16 - The Black Cigar, 17 - Priceless Matt & 18 - Secret Link

[Geez]

Dr John – Mr Sandgroper – Modem – Tumeric

[xptdriver]

Gday All

Race 6 7:15 PM Fruit 'n' Veg Sakes. Weight For Age
3yo+ Group 1 Apprentices Cannot Claim.

1 $4.4 Modem
10 $5.8 Mr Sandgroper
14 $5.8 Dr John
4 $7.8 Blevvo

[Paddy]

Current EW fixed odds:

MR SANDGROPER $3.50
MODEM $4.20
TRUE STEEL $6.00
DR JOHN $9.00
BLINDED $12.00
FINITO $12.00
CAPADAN $17.00
FREE AT LAST $17.00
DEAD EYE DICK $21.00
LAETARE $26.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $31.00
BLEVVO $41.00
TUMERIC $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) SCR
SECRET LINK (4E) SCR
WHO DID IT (1E) SCR
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) SCR

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

Horse Previous Win Current Win
MR SANDGROPER $3.50 $3.50
MODEM $4.20 $4.20
TRUE STEEL $5.50 $6.00
DR JOHN $8.50 $9.00
BLINDED $10.00 $12.00
FINITO $12.00 $12.00
CAPADAN $26.00 $17.00
FREE AT LAST $18.00 $17.00
DEAD EYE DICK $21.00 $21.00
LAETARE $21.00 $26.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $26.00 $31.00
BLEVVO $41.00 $41.00
TUMERIC $61.00 $51.00
DEDICATED MISS $51.00 $51.00
PRICELESS MATT (3E) $126.00 SCR
SECRET LINK (4E) $126.00 SCR
WHO DID IT (1E) $81.00 SCR
THE BLACK CIGAR (2E) $21.00 SCR

[FremantleDoctor]

TRUE STEEL
DR JOHN
MODEM
DEDICATED MISS

[feather]

#14 dr john
# 2 finito
#10 mr sandgroper
# 5 true steel

[topsy99]

although i backed modem i would not have been surprised to see him lose the protest.
the challenger lost momentum in the last 50m.
lucky to get away with i think.

[Paddy]

although i backed modem i would not have been surprised to see him lose the protest.
the challenger lost momentum in the last 50m.
lucky to get away with i think.


Must have been a hard decision for the stewards.
I like FREE AT LAST even more now for the cup.

[Paddy]

06 FRUIT 'N' VEG 3YO+
STAKES WFA
1800 Metres
7:15pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE

WIN/PLACE
1 3.90 1.60
13.............4.10
5.............3.60
QUINELLA 44.10
EXACTA 52.70
TRIFECTA 680.30
FIRST4 2366.90
(1-13-5-10)
EXTRA DOUBLE
(1 - 1) 7.50

( 1) MODEM
(13) FREE AT LAST
( 5) TRUE STEEL

SCR - 15,16,17,18

[Paddy]

MODEM selected by Modem, gum stumpa, pipedream, Chenille Prince, partypooper, Geez, xptdriver, & FremantleDoctor

FREE AT LAST selected by gum stumpa, roman@oz & 4theboyz

TRUE STEEL selected by umrum, FremantleDoctor & feather

MR SANDGROPER selected by umrum, Modem, gum stumpa, pipedream, roman@oz, 4theboyz, Chenille Prince, Geez, xptdriver & feather


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