View Full Version : GOLDEN SLIPPER STAKES- 1200M [Group 1] 19 Mar 05 - Rosehill
Paddy
14th March 2005, 11:50 PM
No. Selection Win Place
273 Snitzel $2.75 $1.40
176 Fashions Afield $5.50 $2.10
225 Mnemosyne $6.50 $2.35
302 Written Tycoon $6.50 $2.35
311 Opportunity $7.50 $2.60
298 Undoubtedly $9.00 $3.00
281 Stratum $11.00 $3.50
221 Media $15.00 $4.50
160 Domesday $17.00 $5.00
105 Al Samer $21.00 $6.00
181 Flying Pegasus $21.00 $6.00
232 Paratroopers $51.00 $13.50
241 Power of Destiny $51.00 $13.50
265 Seidnazar $51.00 $13.50
128 Blizzardly $67.00 $17.50
213 Leveller $67.00 $17.50
292 The Rhine $67.00 $17.50
297 Under The Floor $67.00 $17.50
303 Wrong Call $67.00 $17.50
163 Dr Green $101.00 $26.00
236 Permissive $101.00 $26.00
239 Poetic Genius $101.00 $26.00
162 Dower $151.00 $38.50
230 No Questions $151.00 $38.50
286 Tarzi $331.00 $83.50
Paddy
15th March 2005, 11:38 AM
Horse Weight Probable Rider
SNITZEL 56.5 Glen Boss
WRITTEN TYCOON 56.5 Danny Beasley
DOMESDAY 56.5 Corey Brown
STRATUM 56.5 Lenny Beasley
UNDOUBTEDLY 56.5 Dwayne Dunn
SEIDNAZAR 56.5 Luke Nolen
FLYING PEGASUS 56.5 Danny Nikolic
AL SAMER 56.5 Hugh Bowman
DR GREEN (NZ) 56.5 Rhys McLeod
FASHIONS AFIELD 54.5 Chris Munce
MEDIA 54.5 Shane Dye
MNEMOSYNE 54.5 Darren Beadman
OPPORTUNITY (NZ) 54.5 Damien Oliver
PERMISSIVE 54.5 Larry Cassidy
BLIZZARDLY 54.5 Darryl McLellan
POETIC GENIUS 54.5 Jim Cassidy
Paddy
15th March 2005, 11:40 AM
No. Selection Win Place
001 Snitzel $3.00 $1.50
010 Fashions Afield $6.50 $2.35
012 Mnemosyne $7.00 $2.50
002 Written Tycoon $7.50 $2.60
013 Opportunity $10.00 $3.25
005 Undoubtedly $11.00 $3.50
004 Stratum $13.00 $4.00
003 Domesday $17.00 $5.00
008 Al Samer $17.00 $5.00
007 Flying Pegasus $21.00 $6.00
011 Media $21.00 $6.00
006 Seidnazar $67.00 $17.50
009 Dr Green $67.00 $17.50
015 Blizzardly $101.00 $26.00
014 Permissive $126.00 $32.25
016 Poetic Genius $126.00 $32.25
brave chief
15th March 2005, 01:45 PM
GROUP 1 $3 MILLION AAMI GOLDEN SLIPPER
(1,200 METRES – TROPHIES $26,375)
Tab No. Horse Weight Barrier Probable Rider
1. SNITZEL 56.5kg 12 Glen Boss
2. WRITTEN TYCOON 56.5 14 Danny Beasley
3. DOMESDAY 56.5 4 Corey Brown
4. STRATUM 56.5 6 Lenny Beasley
5. UNDOUBTEDLY 56.5 9 Dwayne Dunn
6. SEIDNAZAR 56.5 2 Luke Nolen
7. FLYING PEGASUS 56.5 15 Danny Nikolic
8. AL SAMER 56.5 8 Hugh Bowman
9. DR GREEN (NZ) 56.5 1 Rhys McLeod
10. FASHIONS AFIELD 54.5 3 Chris Munce
11. MEDIA 54.5 11 Shane Dye
12. MNEMOSYNE 54.5 10 Darren Beadman
13. OPPORTUNITY (NZ) 54.5 16 Damien Oliver
14. PERMISSIVE 54.5 5 Larry Cassidy
15. BLIZZARDLY 54.5 13 Darryl McLellan
16. POETIC GENIUS 54.5 7 Jim Cassidy
brave chief
15th March 2005, 01:47 PM
No Runner Win Place
1 Snitzel 3.75 1.60
10 Fashions Afield 5.50 2.10
4 Stratum 7.50 2.60
12 Mnemosyne 7.50 2.60
2 Written Tycoon 11.00 3.50
5 Undoubtedly 11.00 3.50
8 Al Samer 13.00 4.00
3 Domesday 13.00 4.00
13 Opportunity 17.00 5.00
11 Media 21.00 6.00
7 Flying Pegasus 26.00 7.25
6 Seidnazar 51.00 13.50
9 Dr Green 67.00 17.50
15 Blizzardly 101.00 26.00
16 Poetic Genius 126.00 32.00
14 Permissive 126.00 32.00
maverick1993
15th March 2005, 01:51 PM
wow ..alot of the fancies have drawn out...Fashion afields has the best result...
Snitzel has a shocking draw again !!
But i'm still sticking with him...and i'll get better value to :)
Paddy
16th March 2005, 08:30 AM
Reported that Snitzel's owner Damion Flower has knocked back an offer of $6M for the horse. The $6M offer was made by overseas buyers who wanted to buy 100 percent of the horse before the Slipper. Apparently Damion has stated that as he wanted to retain an interest in Snitzel it's no sale at the moment.
Damion, I'd be taking the offer, I think you will finish well in front (imo)!
Tenacious Spirit
16th March 2005, 09:29 AM
Fancies at this stage are MNEMOSYNE, STRATUM, DOMESDAY and UNDOUBTEDLY.
Paddy
16th March 2005, 10:28 AM
Selection Win Place
Snitzel $3.75 $1.60
Fashions Afield $5.50 $2.10
Mnemosyne $7.50 $2.60
Stratum $7.50 $2.60
Undoubtedly $9.00 $3.00
Written Tycoon $11.00 $3.50
Al Samer $13.00 $4.00
Domesday $15.00 $4.50
Opportunity $17.00 $5.00
Media $21.00 $6.00
Flying Pegasus $26.00 $7.25
Seidnazar $51.00 $13.50
Dr Green $67.00 $17.50
Blizzardly $101.00 $26.00
Permissive $126.00 $32.00
Poetic Genius $126.00 $32.00
Paddy
16th March 2005, 10:34 AM
Horse - Win Divi Last Post - Current Win Divi
Snitzel $3.00 $3.75
Fashions Afield $6.50 $5.50
Mnemosyne $7.00 $7.50
Stratum $13.00 $7.50
Undoubtedly $11.00 $9.00
Written Tycoon $7.50 $11.00
Al Samer $17.00 $13.00
Domesday $17.00 $15.00
Opportunity $10.00 $17.00
Media $21.00 $21.00
Flying Pegasus $21.00 $26.00
Seidnazar $67.00 $51.00
Dr Green $67.00 $67.00
Blizzardly $101.00 $101.00
Permissive $126.00 $126.00
Poetic Genius $126.00 $126.00
mecurial
16th March 2005, 03:00 PM
Paddy do you know if there was a reason for Stratum drifting back out to $13.00? Or just a regular market movement? Hope so I think Stratum is a genuine chance
Paddy
16th March 2005, 03:28 PM
Paddy do you know if there was a reason for Stratum drifting back out to $13.00? Or just a regular market movement? Hope so I think Stratum is a genuine chance
Agree a great chance mecurial. Stratum has actually firmed from $13 to $7.50 mecurial ;) Must be my irish way of presentation :)
bmcguirk
16th March 2005, 05:18 PM
Hi All. I'm on Stratum as well
Selections are:
1. Stratum
2.Undoubtedly
3. Media
Best Roughie: Poetic Genius
brave chief
16th March 2005, 06:13 PM
Domesday $3.30
Snitzel $4.13
Written Tycoon $5.50
Flying Pegasus $5.50
Mnemosyne $11.00
The top four all have projected ratings of 69, so it was up to barriers & jockeys to split them. Mnemosyne rates 65 so is a little off them.
I'm gambling a little bit as i decided to lay Fashions Afield. I can come up with reasons why it was lucky in both its last 2 wins. I doubt it will beat Mnemosyne home here.
Tenacious Spirit
16th March 2005, 07:47 PM
I can get $16 about Domesday on sportsbet, do you think this will firm because i am thinking of locking it in tommorow?
Thanks in advance for the advice
brave chief
16th March 2005, 07:58 PM
even though i rate it high, i don't think you will get lower than $16. Both Tidy & Read have it currently at $21.00 even allowing for it's good draw.
There is rain forecast in Sydney, so if you want too weight for race day, i believe you will still get $16+.
THE PHANTOM
17th March 2005, 12:12 AM
SNITZEL
UNDOUBTEDLY
FASHION AFIELD
MEDIA
Sandgroper
17th March 2005, 10:18 PM
Well I threw the darts and came up with Fashions Afield, Stratum, Mnemosyne and Snitzel.
mecurial
17th March 2005, 11:26 PM
Are you aware of the downpour we are in over here Sandgroper? I assume you are. To the more experienced punters out there (me not being one of them) what do you think of Stratum's chances if the track is slow/heavy? Considering it runs fairly late in the program...
suds
18th March 2005, 01:37 AM
2) Written Tycoon
6) Seidnazar
3) Domesday
8) Al Samer
goldmember
18th March 2005, 08:07 AM
Hope the rain keeps falling,Stratum won a trial at newcastle a few months back on a wet track and swam through it, will take a postition and finish strongly, paul perry says its his best chance of winning the slipper,[ choisir had feet problems and fastnet rock was always going to be a better as a 3 year old].
Stratum
Media
Mnemosyne
Opportunity
Tenacious Spirit
18th March 2005, 09:27 AM
Correct me if I am wrong (melburnian) but sydney is getting a fair bit of rain. This changes things exponentially. No longer will the horses drawn inside get such an advantage. The middle to outer part of the track is where to be which means horses like Snitzel and mnemosyne drawn 12 and 10 respectively may be abble the post themselves 3 or 4 back with cover. Mnemosyne is by Encosta de Lago and should handle the wet well.
Paddy
18th March 2005, 10:53 AM
Horse Win Place
Snitzel $3.60 $1.65
Fashions Afield $6.00 $2.25
Mnemosyne $7.00 $2.50
Stratum $8.00 $2.75
Undoubtedly $9.00 $3.00
Media $11.00 $3.50
Al Samer $13.00 $4.00
Written Tycoon $13.00 $4.00
Domesday $17.00 $5.00
Opportunity $17.00 $5.00
Flying Pegasus $26.00 $7.25
Dr Green $67.00 $17.50
Seidnazar $67.00 $17.50
Blizzardly $101.00 $26.00
Permissive $151.00 $38.50
Poetic Genius $151.00 $38.50
Paddy
18th March 2005, 10:54 AM
Horse WAS NOW
Snitzel $3.75 $3.60
Fashions Afield $5.50 $6.00
Mnemosyne $7.50 $7.00
Stratum $7.50 $8.00
Undoubtedly $9.00 $9.00
Media $21.00 $11.00
Al Samer $13.00 $13.00
Written Tycoon $11.00 $13.00
Domesday $15.00 $17.00
Opportunity $17.00 $17.00
Flying Pegasus $26.00 $26.00
Dr Green $67.00 $67.00
Seidnazar $51.00 $67.00
Blizzardly $101.00 $101.00
Permissive $126.00 $151.00
Poetic Genius $126.00 $151.00
Paddy
18th March 2005, 11:05 AM
Media to win
Poetic Genius to place
maverick1993
18th March 2005, 12:37 PM
Allready have Snitzle for a stack and still haven't changed my mind on him,,
all this talk about Stratum is bewildering to me considering he couldnt get close to snitzel...I give him a couple of lengths because of the barrier..maybe even 2 lengths for the wet track,,he's still 2 lengths off Snitzel..
1, Snitzel
2, Mnemosyne.... is the one i fear ..
3, Written tycoon ...will be there as well has the strength to bustle
through the pack and find a position....
4, Media ...will be running on but the jockey's a toss.
I did like Al samer but think he wont handle the wet...same with Opportunity..
i think Siednazar could grab a place at odds..
Hard race as usual..but will wait till i see how the track is playing before i load up on exotics
Seeker11
18th March 2005, 05:22 PM
Fashions afield
Mnemosyne
Snitzel
Opportunity
Chuck
18th March 2005, 07:43 PM
mnemosyne
snitzel
media
dr green
wotarun
19th March 2005, 12:00 AM
MNEMOSYNE
SNITZEL
BLIZZARDLY
PERMISSIVE
smidgin
19th March 2005, 12:25 AM
Tipping Redoute's Choice first 4
5) Undoubtedly
1) Snitzel
4) Stratum
8) Al Samer
Whist
19th March 2005, 12:56 AM
Dr Green
Media
Flying Pegasus
Fashions Afield
pop
19th March 2005, 01:30 AM
11 MEDIA
6 SEIDNAZAR
12 MNEMOSYNE
14 PERMISSIVE
Svenvlad
19th March 2005, 03:24 AM
Opportunity
Snitzel
Fashions Afield
Stratum
Good luck All
Sven
bazzatoo
19th March 2005, 05:03 AM
Undoubtedly
Media
Snitzel
Paddy
19th March 2005, 08:39 AM
Track dead, all starting.
PunterPete
19th March 2005, 08:55 AM
Based on previous runs here is my time analysis graph results for the Slipper.
Note the Melbourne horses times are unfactored as I only record NSW data.
No-Horse First600 Last600 600M Time Graph
04-STRATUM 34.61s 35.11s .0 len 69.71 s 69.72 s
11-MEDIA 36.28s 34.32s 2.3 len 70.61 s 70.50 s
05-UNDOUBTEDLY 33.99s 35.32s 2.0 len 69.31 s 70.61 s Mel?
06-SEIDNAZAR 34.68s 35.74s .3 len 70.42 s 70.63 s
13-OPPORTUNITY 34.69s 35.35s 2.5 len 70.03 s 70.66 s Mel?
03-DOMESDAY 36.70s 34.37s 3.3 len 71.07 s 70.81 s
10-FASHIONS AFI 35.94s 35.01s .0 len 70.95 s 70.85 s
07-FLYING PEGASU 35.78s 34.86s 2.8 len 70.64 s 70.91 s
02-WRITTEN TYCO 36.78s 34.51s 1.7 len 71.29 s 71.11 s
12-MNEMOSYNE 36.39s 34.79s 4.0 len 71.18 s 71.12 s
01-SNITZEL 35.27s 35.41s 3.0 len 70.68 s 71.17 s Easy wins
09-DR GREEN 36.46s 35.07s 1.6 len 71.54 s 71.31 s
14-PERMISSIVE 35.99s 35.53s 1.4 len 71.52 s 71.34 s
15-BLIZZARDLY 35.89s 35.35s .0 len 71.25 s 71.52 s
08-AL SAMER 35.96s 35.78s 2.0 len 71.74 s 71.68 s
16-POETIC GENIUS 36.79s 34.97s 6.4 len 71.76 s 71.84 s
Paddy
19th March 2005, 11:13 AM
No. Horse Win Place
001 Snitzel $3.70 $1.70
005 Undoubtedly $7.00 $2.50
010 Fashions Afield $7.00 $2.50
012 Mnemosyne $7.00 $2.50
004 Stratum $9.00 $3.00
011 Media $11.00 $3.00
008 Al Samer $13.00 $4.00
002 Written Tycoon $15.00 $4.50
003 Domesday $17.00 $5.00
013 Opportunity $19.00 $5.50
007 Flying Pegasus $34.00 $8.50
009 Dr Green $67.00 $13.50
016 Poetic Genius $67.00 $15.00
006 Seidnazar $81.00 $21.00
015 Blizzardly $101.00 $21.00
014 Permissive $126.00 $21.00
Paddy
19th March 2005, 11:14 AM
NO. HORSE WAS NOW
001 Snitzel $3.60 $3.70
005 Undoubtedly $9.00 $7.00
010 Fashions Afield $6.00 $7.00
012 Mnemosyne $7.00 $7.00
004 Stratum $8.00 $9.00
011 Media $11.00 $11.00
008 Al Samer $13.00 $13.00
002 Written Tycoon $13.00 $15.00
003 Domesday $17.00 $17.00
013 Opportunity $17.00 $19.00
007 Flying Pegasus $26.00 $34.00
009 Dr Green $67.00 $67.00
016 Poetic Genius $151.00 $67.00
006 Seidnazar $67.00 $81.00
015 Blizzardly $101.00 $101.00
014 Permissive $151.00 $126.00
Raw Instinct
19th March 2005, 02:55 PM
Flying Pegasus
Media
Stratum
Poetic Genius
Paddy
19th March 2005, 04:25 PM
07 AAMI GOLDEN SLIPPER
2YO STK
1200 Metres
3:55pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE
3RD LEG QUADRELLA
WIN/PLACE
4 11.10 3.70
10...............2.50
11...............4.00
QUINELLA (4-10) 43.20
EXACTA (4-10) 112.90
TRIFECTA
(4-10-11) 734.50
FIRST 4
(4-10-11-12) 6,062.90
(4) STRATUM (L.BEASLEY)
(10) FASHIONS AFIELD (C.MUNCE)
(11) MEDIA (R.S.DYE)
(12) MNEMOSYNE (D.BEADMAN)
SCR - NIL
Quadrella Sub = 1
maverick1993
19th March 2005, 11:06 PM
The stratum result cost me a bundle.....the only horse i bagged in the field and it comes back to bite me on the ass...
i deserved it..
Written Tycoon was butchered by the jockey...connections very unhappy..
Mr ed
20th March 2005, 12:36 AM
Mav, i don't know how you bet for big bikkies in such a shocking race. It is impossible to be confident in anything, i hate it. Easy to say after the ball however, bad luck mate.
maverick1993
20th March 2005, 01:16 PM
In Hindsight i agree... i think sometimes you can get carried away with winning...and you feel invincible..
I've been lucky enough lately to be on a roll,,But yesterday was a huge loss and now i've come bck to Earth in a big way...
Was at the track with a few Big Punters and got carried away with the Atmospere..
Hollow Bullet and Cocinero were my original specials for the day and collected big but made some stupid bets later on..
I've never shied away from 2yo races and Maidens as my figures show i'm way ahead on these type of races..
The Barrier draw killed Snitzel yesterday and Written tycoon was ridden poorly..although backing horses from outside barriers will send you broke in the long run..
Lesson learned....and although the account took a hit yesterday i'm still keeping my head way above water ..
Next weekend is my last betting weekend for awhile as i'm going to the states...might be good to have a break...but i'll try and check out the races over there ...i'm guessing they'll be some Kentucky Derby lead up races or something..
PunterPete
20th March 2005, 04:24 PM
Despite have Stratum rated on top and Media rated second - see earlier post(As did Goldmember - well done) I still came out with nothing for the race.
Decided to back Media staight out and had Stratum/Media for quinella.
Same old story - better luck next time.
goldmember
20th March 2005, 06:34 PM
I thought Stratum was a special, as did the connections, but i didnt want to put the "Mock" on him by saying it, at least we have won the slipper again [ long time since Luskin Star]. Had a good day backing Jeriamaid,Hollow Bullet, Makybe Diva and Stratum, pity i didnt have a parlay though!.
Raw Instinct
20th March 2005, 09:20 PM
Fashions Afield cost me the 1st 4 in the end I didn't back anything in the race in the ended up just taking a 1st 4 had 5 of the first 6 runners that is the way it goes though.
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