Looking for systems

[GungaDin]

Howdy,

I've been reading this forum for a while and playing around with various systems and just wanted to get some info and share some things with you all. (Try and stick with me, this post is a little long)

Firstly, I'm a programmer by trade and I've written code that has sucked down 3 years worth of horse racing data for all races covered by TABOnline. This gives me information such as Horse, Jockey, Win Odds, Place Odds, Barrier, Weight, Rating, Last three starts and Form (D, W, T, C etc).

I've also now written code that will automatically place bets for me. The code works by scanning the daily TABOnline web page and when a race gets close to starting (less than 2 minutes) this race is then monitored. There are settings I can use to determine how long to wait (in seconds) after the race goes to 0 TO GO before I put the bet on. The program then checks the rules that I have (explained below) and if any horses satisfy the rules it places the bet (using the Netbet Pro software which allows for this kind of thing).

The Rules will accept the following parameters:

Win Odds Range
Place Odds Range
Horses in Race Range
Barrier Range
Rating Range
Weight Advantage Range
Favourite Order Range
Last Start
Favourite Win Odds Range
Bet Size
For example, if I have a rule where I want to bet on Horses paying more than $5 to win for races with 8-12 horses only if the horse is in Barriers 1-4 and the favourite is paying less than $3 than I can easily do this using the parameters. These rules are stored in an Access database so can be easily changed, added, disabled, etc. and all bets placed are also stored in the database so that I have a full history of bets made and can monitor how I'm going. The software will also check any bets placed and update the database with final odds and whether the bet won or not.

The code also automatically logs on to NetBet Pro which I find handy as TABOnline usually doesn't let you log on at 7am which is when I go to work. This way, I just start my program running and it logs on at it's own convenience.

Is this kind of software freely available? Being relatively new to this whole thing I'm not sure what software options exist to help people in placing bets.

The second reason I'm posting is that I'm looking for some systems to load into my software but I don't plan on being a complete leech. My idea was to trade the software for some useful rules if anybody is interested.

I'm more than happy to provide more details of what the software does if anybody is interested. Simply e-mail me and we can discuss further. I'm also more than happy to look at expanding the software if people are interested (such as adding more parameters, etc).

Looking forward to a response.

[jose]

Gungadin,
email me at jfimmer at ourbrisbane dot com

[GungaDin]

Hi Jose,

Just sent off an e-mail.

[beton]

GungaDin
You can email me at wallyhughes at bigpond dot com
regards Beton

[Chuck]

can you please email me too at chucky_s_3000 at yahoo dot com dot au

[johnwayneaussie]

Hi GunqaDin,

Intresting. Email me johnwayneaussie at yahoo dot com
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[Dirk Gently]

It sounds promising email me at ewan at phaedrus dot com dot au

[Goldcoaster]

can you please email me too
steve_roach34 at hotmail dot com

Thanks

[newpunter]

Hi Gungadin,


Please email me
newpunter at optusnet dot com dot au


regards

Newpunter

[Marcus]

Hello Gungadin,
I'm intrested. Please e-mail me at
catparrot at hotmail dot com
Thanks.
Marcus.

[Tenacious Spirit]

Likewise here, sounds like you put in some serious work, Good on you.

greedy_6969@hotmail.com

[Desi]

Gday Gunga Din,
I have been trying to set up my own ratings and selections system over the last 2 months with the assistance of Forum members (feedback) and am happy to share the things Ive picked up that may be useful for you.

If you wish you can contact me at- losalita@msn .com

and I will be happy to pass on what Ive been fortunate to have received...good luck!

[Dr Pangloss]

I'm more than happy to provide more details of what the software does if anybody is interested. Simply e-mail me and we can discuss further. I'm also more than happy to look at expanding the software if people are interested (such as adding more parameters, etc).

Looking forward to a response.[/QUOTE]


Is this software able to access other TABs, or better still, online bookies offering best TAB/best price together with bet placement?

Can this software work with ratings software such as neurals, bet selector, GTX?

There was such a programme mooted about 12 months ago but to date nothing has come of it. I think it proved all too hard or all too expensive or both. The first programmer to come up with something viable and workable at a fair and decent price will be swamped.

[GungaDin]

At the moment it only uses TABOnline and the stats they provide. If some of these other factors were readily found on the internet or were able to be entered into a database then there's no reason why the software couldn't be altered to handle them.


With regards to putting bets on with other books, that depends more on the Book. TABOnline works well because the placing of the bets can be automated. If other books offer a similar service (which they possibly do) then there's no reason why this also wouldn't be doable.

I'm always looking to expand the software so anything (well, almost anything) is possible.

[syllabus23]

The sceptics are waiting...........

[bluetown]

Know others who know others who know !

blutownroks AT shinyfeet.com

[KennyVictor]

Just out of interest, what language are you programming in?

KV

[GungaDin]

The application is written in VB.NET. The back-end is Access 2000.


Will be tweaking the app over the next couple of week or so to include some features that some people thought might be handy.

In particular, I'll be changing the app so that rather than apply the bets based on rules, you can pre-load the app with individual selections and required odds. For example, if you have a ratings scheme that rates a horse at $4 and the TAB has it at $7 then the system could automatically place this bet.

This should enable it to have a slightly broader appeal I think.

I've got a couple of potentially interested parties in this idea.

Any other comments or suggestions are more than welcome.

[bluetown]

Re:
Any other comments or suggestions are more than welcome.

GingaDin,
If an application from another user has reached a point where, let's say it's at point "B"
Point "B" is where selections are now presented in whatever format your application requires at *your* point "B", being let's say, the software you have described to send the bets to various TAB's.

How,where and I I or anyone else "arrives" to point "B" may not be a concern to some as much as it is to others.
How then does each and everyone's different methods/systems interface on common ground ?

For others who may not yet have an understanding, I hope you don't mind if I show this in a graphical form at the absolute basic pencil to paper stage
(before code phase).

Just something I do when it's "time out" during brainstorm.

MY APPLICATION
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'<>>>>>>>><><><>BRING DATA<><><>>>>>>>>>>>>><><>
'<>>>>>>>>>><><><><>TO<><><><>>>>>>>>>>>>><><><>
'<>>>>>>>>>>><><>THIS POINT<><>>>>>>>>>>>><><><><>~
'<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><>"B"<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><><><>
'<>>>>>>>><|><|><|>???????<|><|><|>>>>>>>>>>>><><>
'<><><><><><><><><><|?|><><><><><><><><><><><>
'<><><><><><><><><><|=| \
'<><><><><><><><><><|\| -|=|~
'<><><><><><><><><><|=| /
'<><><><><><><><><><|?|><><><><><><><><><><><>~Mine


'------------------------( ? ) -----------------------------}~Yours
'______________________"B"___________________________

'----------------------Your Application X-------------------
'???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

What now ?

[KennyVictor]

Easiest standard way to transfer data is by CSV file in my experience. If you're just sending your selections to someone's program which is going to make the bets - just work out a common format for the exchange.
Say for example - Venue, date, race, horse number, price required, bet.
Make sure you both use the same names for courses, the rest is just numbers.

KV

[GungaDin]

Spot on KV. That's exactly how I would do it.

The easiest way would be to have an excel spreadsheet where the race date is in column A, Race Number in Column B, etc.

Then I just change the app so that it can read the data in from that spreadsheet.

CSV or TAB delimited files are just as easy. As is XML. Actually, XML is probably the best option truth be told but it would require the user to know how to export to XML which isn't necessarily the easiest thing in the world (but it's hardly rocket science either).

[yuckman]

whiles you're at it, cobba........

I'm at ewan_huzearmy at i primus dot com dot au

I'll send you a couple of mine

[bluetown]

Question.

Are we to assume, to send you our selections so they can be sent to Taboline via your current setup ?

[GungaDin]

Well, my idea was more to discuss ideas and systems with people and then if the people are interesed in the software, give it to them to get their opinion of it. Obviously, if those people want to continue sending me their selections then I would appreciate that, especially if they find the software useful.

This will lead me to make further refinements to the software to make it more user friendly and then depending on the popularity of the software and what the people thought of it, I was then going to decide whether to sell it or just continue to give it away in exchange for systems, tips, etc.

Truth be told, I had no idea whether this kind of software existed so initially I was just testing the waters. I'm really impressed with the feedback and communication and am currently making some alterations so that I can give the app to some people to see what they think of it.

I would imagine there will be a fair bit of back and forth once some people get the app as I make improvements, fix bugs etc.

But that was my plan.

[pardon me]

Hi gunga
dont know too much about software but i use a system which requires me to sit in front of the qtab screen all day and night as i apply my method to dogs and trots as well as gallops. i utilise a program which is basically a recoupment plan in conjuction with the tab site but i have to be there. does your software have potential to scan the tab site and incorporate my recoupment software and place the bet without my involvement all day and night?The method i use consistantly wins , averaging around5-6%profit on turnover , which if betting on 500+ races p/week is considerable even if bets are around 50.00 each. i sacrafice some profits as i like to play golf and go for long runs and nice dinners out .
There are many methods but to find a consistant winner over along period of time is very very rare, mine have worked for 3years and on over 50000 bets so some degree of comfort there.
anyway good luck all round
pardon me

[GungaDin]

Hi pardon me,

That's the exact purpose of the application. The only thing I'd need to get an understanding of would be whether your program could export the picks so that my application could import them.

Does your recoupment application have the ability to export daily selections?

Very interested in discussing this. Drop me an e-mail and we can discuss further.

GungaDin.

[pardon me]

hi gunga
let me say that my software does not make the selections it only records the bets and then determines what the next bet amt should be based on last bet results. it is really just a calculator with built in parameters which calculates instantly . my selections are made by me with a minute or less to jump timeand are determined by the prices on offer on qtab. when certain critera are in place a bet is triggered, i enter the price and click to tell me how much to bet, i then click on my qtab acct and the bet is sent. this whole process takes less than 20seconds and the longer it can be left ie the closer to jump time the more accurate the result as pools still flow up to jump and prices can alter dramatically.
what is good about my method is consistancy, sure there are some fluctuations and even some bad weeks but month by month the results and profits flow much the same statiscally, it is just the problem of sitting in front of a screen all the time that gets to you (or the missus).
i will nut out some more details and example resuts and email, got to get back to the big screen now.
pardon me

[GungaDin]

Sounds promising. Will look forward to the e-mail.

[pardon me]

hi gunga
since mgt changed setup some mths back i cant seem to access member details for emails etc.
have requested they fix up access for me.

[GungaDin]

Ahhhh, I thought that must have just been something with my setup.


What's your e-mail address and I'll drop you an e-mail?

[corvette]

GundaDin, please email me with your address,berend at bizmail.com.au

[Glenno]

can you please email me at gmao1982 at yahoo dot com dot au
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[jorgo]

Sounds interesting could you please email me at jorgo69er@hotmail.com

[wesmip1]

Hey,

I was just going through old posts and found this one.

If anyone has GungaDin's email address as he hasn't posted in ages, could you please send it to me. my email is aussiestable@yahoo.com.au

Thanks.

[ROBIN WOOD]

can anybody help to develop software for racing, need to scan prices do mathmatical calculation select horses and place dutch bet