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baco60
20th September 2005, 06:47 PM
I have been member of this forum for about two years; I read just about every article in archives, I have seen dozens of the same names on the posts, coming up with al sorts of ridicules ideas over the years, and arguing that they no best, how to win, yet nothing worked, absolute nothing.
The same old blokes after years of contributing for whatever reasons it may be,
some got nothing else to do but sit on the front of PC and confuse them self’s and the readers on systems and the rest of the crap that goes on in racing industry.

I am prepared to bet money that they do not have a single bet a day, yet they try to tell someone they know what they are talking about in this so difficult racing industry.
The facts are only 5 % of lucky punters win, not because they know, but because they are gamblers and are taking the chance, nothing to do with the knowledge on horses, just pure ****** luck. Nothing else.
The only people that are making money out of this racing madness are Tab’s, racing book writers and so called tip’s providers. None of them bet on the horses.
Yet, they go on yearly trips overseas on your and my money, not because they won on races, but because they got money from fools like me and you buying they product which is useless.
Come on guy’s stop fooling your self’s and everyone else. There is no chance in betting horses. dogs and trots.
Drugs and gambling there is no deferens, both are sicknesses.
Stop before is too late.
There is no such a thing as easy money, don’t give you hard earned money away.
I am stopping with few hundred dollars behind, that I spend on so called educational material that I bought from racing gurus that are laughing on my stupidity buying
they books and so called most intelligent staking software rubbish.
Those books and software are not good enough to use to start the fire for barbecue in the bush.
Baco

Mark
20th September 2005, 08:01 PM
LOL

Oaksnaf
20th September 2005, 08:19 PM
Not everyone can agree on anyone thing. Really if you dont like reading the systems or the rest of it, then dont read it. You are not forced to read it, no-one is forcing you to read it.

Some do it for fun (me) some others are serious. Some win, some lose. Its the thrill of the fight that makes it alright.

Bhagwan
21st September 2005, 01:59 AM
Thankyou for your input Baco60,
I`ve decided after reading your input that I will not bet anymore .
For that matter I wont bet any less either.

Cheers

crash
21st September 2005, 03:49 AM
The forum rules clearly state. 'No religion'. I could almost taste the 'Hallelujahs' interspersed throughout that sermon Baco60 :-)

Bring on the gambling, drugs, rock and roll and women, I'm gonna die in sin !!!

w924
21st September 2005, 07:29 AM
No serious punter ever said it was easy..that doesnt make it impossible either..just because you have not succeeded.

It is a matter of sorting out the material that matters from the material that doesn't..and that my friend, takes time and effort. Once you have the tools yopu then need to have the discipline..and I'll state that discipline cant be bought...it is the most difficult -to-obtain pre- requisite for successful punting.

Some of the best learning I found was from cheaply obtained books on the subject... Some of the "old school" stuff is still relevent today...

If you have only lost a few hundred dollars, I suggest that you havent tried hard enough LOL. To profit long term from punting is to achieve what the overwhelming majority of punters cannot.Take on an easier task if you cant enjoy life in this arena.

I can understand that you may feel burned by the odd shark out there...I'll leave by stating that there are some winning materials and methods right here on this forum...available free...however, If you have had enough, by all means leave, and let the rest of us take our own journey and experience life for ourselves, in our own ways.

All the best to you in whatever you choose to do..

Dale
21st September 2005, 07:43 AM
I dont know about anyone else but i find it hilarious when someone gets suckered into buying software etc and then when it all falls in a heap they blame everyone else but themselves and claim that those who are winning have just got lucky.

As Dr Phil would say you made the mistake so step up and OWN it.

davez
21st September 2005, 01:14 PM
I am stopping with few hundred dollars behind

Baco

my gods! not being a bit light on there are we baco, a "reformed" gambler only a $300 behind?!

corn now, we add 1 zero to that figure & multiply by 5 ish, eh?! :)

BJ
21st September 2005, 01:25 PM
At least your opinion of yourself is high. If you can't do it, then surely it must be impossible.

partypooper
21st September 2005, 02:33 PM
Davez, I think your estimate of losses might be a bit light there mate, what I lost b4 (not all the time) in todays terms would probably x your extimate x10 at least.

That was b4 I discovered "patience" which turned my betting around.

Baco you are right probably only 5% of punters win (that's if you don't consider Bookies as Punters??) but not all 5% is due to luck, though I have to agree that I've seen and been friends with afew people who just seem to have been blessed with lady luck.
I was with one bloke at the Casino in England (a few years back) who lost a couple of hundred quid over the course of the night, on our way out he said hang on I'll just put this quid in the One Armed Bandit, and proceeded to hit the 250 quid jackpot!! (true story.)

davez
21st September 2005, 03:48 PM
yeh, was just trying to be a little bit kind to the poor fella party.

that said i plan to summon up the courage one day to review that period of time i call 'BWIWACD' & establish just how much cash i really did burn & throw away.

what does 'BWIWACD' stand for you ask? -

'back when i was a complete ********'.

these days i am just a partial one :)

KennyVictor
21st September 2005, 05:07 PM
What's happened to disillusion you Baco? I remember a few months ago you clued me in on Neurals and seemed cheerily involved with the rest of us in the battle with the bookies. Hell, I'm almost tempted to venture down off the mountain here to the lowlands you inhabit to give you a good stern talking to.
I know I have a session about once a week when I hit a losing streak and say "Stuff this, it's not worth the aggravation". and it's made that much worse by the thought that all the time and effort I've put into it would be wasted. Still the law of averages comes back into my favour later and once again I love the punt.
That's one bad thing about the punt, however good you are there will always be rough spots and if (like me) you take these things to heart, depression, or at least wondering if it's all worth it, is just a few bad photo finishes away.
Take a step back mate, have a break and ask yourself if you can still enjoy the punt, maybe with less commitment. It can be fun, maybe if you don't take it too seriously.

KV

beton
21st September 2005, 11:57 PM
yeh i rocked up on to this forum and found the HOLY GRAIL and I am on the beach in the the Bahamas and now I'm going backwards because it's only a dailup connection and everytime I try to place a bet the sand clogs up the keyboard and I keep thinking that everything came too easy and life should not be easy so I'm here wondering whether I should take the good advice and just shoot myself or find a rabied dog to bite me or just read what I want to read and take the rest with a dose of salts. Regards Beton

crash
22nd September 2005, 04:37 AM
Nice to see everyone waxing lyrical for a change. Hey Party that Casino trick with the last $1 happened to me in Melb. once, last $1 into a $1 machine in that pokie place in lygon st. Carlton, Melb. and won $500 [pounds would have been nice]. To top it off had a great day at the races next day. Luck is a conundrum, but it's certainly not dished out equally.

The trick with coping with the ups and downs of racing for this writer anyway, is to step back from it now and then and do something else. Returning refreshed gives a new perspective and energy. Rest is just as important in punting as it is in any other sport or pursuit, otherwise we crash and burn.

w924
22nd September 2005, 07:59 AM
"Rest is just as important in punting as it is in any other sport or pursuit, otherwise we crash and burn."

Yep I'll agree with that 100% Crash..and exercise doesnt go astray either..even a walk each day can do wonders to help sharpen us up..Ive made a couple of mistakes in past couple of days, and drawn the conclusion that it's lack of rest and exercise..

Time to take it easy, walk and take some brain food like Ginko Biloba..There is alaos a strong case for only betting Saturdays..with races every day now..the carsh and burn factor is probably more prevalent than ever before..

Btw I have really enjoyed reading these last few posts on this thread...great to see some humour ...
thanks Beton, Davez, PP , KV and co ..

baco60
22nd September 2005, 05:33 PM
Hi all,
Thank you all for your participation in my post, which I admit, was bit harsh, but for the reason.
My aim was to see what kind of respond I would get from members in the forum,
if I write something like that!

By your reaction I have found that there are number of people in this forum that are genuine, considered and passionate about punting.
If I offended you I profoundly apologise, and I appreciate your kind words of advice and honest opinion.
Your comments are of value to me, and make me releases how far I am behind you,
in accepting the facts of this racing industry as it is.
Kind regards.
Baco60

beton
22nd September 2005, 06:34 PM
Glad to see you bolt upright chest out and shoulders back and taking it like a man. Yell at the missus kick the dog and chase the kids around the paddock. Alls well so long as you don't catch the kids before you calm down.
Regards Beton