Bert so far............

Bert's struggling so far.

WF
1/8. Winner was under $4 so not bet.

Ipswich
1/6. Winner was too short - no bet.

Sandown
1/7. Winner was too short - no bet.

Gawler
1/7. Winner paid $19.30 in NSW.

Belmont
1/4 - Our Big Paddy delivers at $4! First win for the day!

2 qualifiers have won so far $4 and $19.




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: lumbarsua on 2002-07-10 16:53 ]</font>

To Bert's credit he has now tipped at $19 winner at Gawler. However after about 20 losses most would have given up by then.

[becareful]

lambarsua,

Think you'd better check that Gawler result again - according to the selections I received there was no winner except Race 8 (and that was less than $4). (If you are sure please post the details in case I have missed something). Also the $4 winner at Belmont was not a selection by my interpretation of the rules (was showing 3.70 on UNITAB at jump time). Will post my full results after last race at Belmont but it's not looking good!

Update,

With 2 races to go at Belmont. Still just the two qualifying winners - $4 and $19. He did pick a few short priced winners, but they don't qualify under his rules.

People can judge for themselves, but I wouldn't pay money for selections like these.

It appears his selections are made using some sort of formula based around DLR.

The two winners had a short period b/t runs -6 and 11 days.

A few of his selections were 1st up - I don't know if they trialled recently or not.

Becareful,

He had some possible longshots listed on the email underneath the selections in red:

See below:

"Possible longshots=G/ler r7h9 s/down r2h6 r3h12 W/farm r4h12 r7h4 Ipswich r3h5 r8h6 B/mont r1h12 r4h5 r5h7 r6h5 r7h6 r8h4"


Out of the above one winner - Gawler r7 h9.

Allup they was about 55 selections after scratchings. After eliminating horses which were too short you'd be left with about 40 horses (Becareful may have more precise nos).

Only 2 of these won - $19 and $4.

So your loss would be significant. Unless you adopted a staking plan that avoided all those losses prior to the $19 winner!

[becareful]

lumbarsua,

Thanks for that - I am working off the spreadsheet which you can download from him (containing the formulas for his bet sizing, etc) - this did not contain those "possible longshots" so I have not included them in my analysis. I have simply followed the rules and all the selections in the spreadsheet and will post the full results after last race at Belmont (and after I have had some dinner).

Crikey
How am I supposed to get a fair shake here if you can't even get the results right.
where the heck did you pull that $19.30 winner from.
I would be happy to help any of you make some money , but get the bookwork right to start with.
All of you who received the free trial this morning can now go back and download it again and it has all the results on it done by my students and I checked it as it was happening , because I also bet them myself, so I know it is correct.
My stsudents worked on a $5 target and earned a profit of $21.20 or 7.7% on investment,
And we had a bad day, I only produced one winner at $4 or better.
regards bert
regards bert

What? How did you turn 20 losses in a profit???

You're kidding!

There were actually 18 losses.
see my spreadsheet , I have uploaded it on the website.

http://www.puntersbankbook.com.au/D020710cent.xls

I keep telling you guys that your conventional way of betting does not work on my selections , so don't try to do it, it will not show a profit.
MY WAY DOES.

regards Bert
regards Bert

So basically you just chase losses until you get your $5 profit.

If you decent selections rather than today's rubbish imagine how much easier it would be!

Spending a whole day chasing $5 is not a good idea. Hardly even buys your lunch for the day!

Like I said
Today was a bad day with only one winner.
But that is all we are after so it is successful

The profit since the sept each month avg out to $500 -$800 per month.
that is just on trying to win $5 per day .
I am sure you can some lunch with that.
If you don't spend it on lunch you might want to pay the morgage with it.

May produced $553.60 June $648.20 and so far we have $127 for 10 days.

regards bert

[Equine Investor]

Let's be reasonable here Bert.

becareful trialled your sytem and due to a very marginal call missed your 1 winner which wiped out his bank!

Had he subscribed and made this same "mistake" and been wiped out, would you have provided him with a new $1,000 bank?

There is human error that has to be factored in to any system and making a call whether to bet or not to, becareful followed your advice on your website and decided not to.

The end result - wipeout!

[Equine Investor]

"Hypothetical question":

So who wants to subcribe to my jockey system with a level stakes profit, and staking plan to maximise profits with an emergency stop loss to ensure you don't lose your bank!

Looking better all the time with better % profits.

Oh and did I mention it's FREE on this forum ?

:roll:


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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-07-10 21:33 ]</font>

Hi Equine
I am reasonable
We here and all my customers only spent $277 .
I want to know how he came to $1150
Not one of my customers emailed me to say they missed it because of the price that he reckoned it was , so I can say quite certain that they all had a bet on it and collected the profit.
The only ones that dispute this are a couple of you who , as beginners may have made a mistake, by not rounding up or down when you should or some other criteria that you can learn as you practice.
That is why I teach people here, if it was easy I wouldn't need to do that .
I tell people not to subscribe until they have practiced and understand how to use the Tool provided( the spreadsheet)

TOday we must have had Murphys law trying to stuff things up as it is very seldom we get a 5 meeting day with only 1 winner, I think it is the only one.

The Fact is , My Customers , my students and me are making money and some people pay their mortgage , other are paying off a car.
it's better than any other way that I have ever heard of.
Whether you agree or disagree makes no difference because you haven't tried it and perhaps you may have have made a profit along with us.
You try it and see if you can do it.

regards Bert

[becareful]

Bert,

I have posted on the other thread how I came to be 1150 down - basically because of all the bets after the one that you collected on but I missed as my figures said it was $3.70 and therefore no bet. It is truly scary that you do not understand what sort of losses your system generated today with a single different decision on a very marginal call.

While I believe that you have probably made money out of this system I don't believe you could make enough to live on (without selling it that is). As we have seen 1 bad day can wipe out several months of profits. Personally I aim for at least $1000 PER WEEK from my system - anything less and it is not worth staying home all day to bet as I could make more going out to work.