Greyhound Racing System

[wesmip1]

All,

I have just started testing a couple of greyhound racing systems and thought I would post up the selections. Some of the races have already occurred and they have gone ok.

There are 3 systems I am trialling :

1. Fastest split time as per form guide.
2. Fastest inside split time
3. Fastest by a large margin.

The tips were/are :

Ballarat (System 1, System 2, System 3) (NS means No Selection)
R1:6,6,NS
R2:5,5,5
R3:3,2,NS
R4:5,3,NS
R5:2,2,NS
R6:8,7,NS
R7:2,2,NS
R8:3,1,NS
R9:6,6,6
R10:3,2,NS
R11:3,1,NS
R12:2,1,NS


Sandown (System 1, System 2, System 3) (NS means No Selection)
R1:Not Enough Form
R2:Not Enough Form
R3:Not Enough Form
R4:Not Enough Form
R5:2,1,2
R6:1,1,1
R7:4,2,4
R8:2,2,NS
R9:Not Enough Form
R10:3,1,NS
R11:8,2,NS
R12:6,2,NS

Warrnambool (System 1, System 2, System 3) (NS means No Selection)
R1:Not Enough Form
R2:2,1,NS
R3:6,4,NS
R4:1,1,NS
R5:1,1,1
R6:8,5,NS
R7:1,1,1
R8:6,1,6
R9:5,3,NS
R10:Not Enough Form
R11:8,2,NS
R12:8,1,NS

I'll post the results later.

[wesmip1]

Sandown
R5:2,1,2
R6:1,1,1
R7:4,2,4
R8:2,2,NS ( Number 2 was scratched )
R10:3,1,NS
R11:8,2,NS
R12:6,2,NS

System 1:
Races:6
Wins:2
Win $:8.50
Places:5
Place $:8.20

System 2:
Races:6
Wins:0
Win $:0.00
Places:2
Place $:3.60

System 3:
Races:3
Wins:1
Win $:2.80
Places:3
Place $:5.30

[wesmip1]

Ballarat
R1:6,6,NS
R2:5,5,5
R3:3,2,NS
R4:5,3,NS
R5:2,2,NS
R6:8,7,NS
R7:2,2,NS
R8:3,1,NS ( Number 1 is scratched)<-- Results up to here.
R9:6,6,6
R10:3,2,NS
R11:3,1,NS
R12:2,1,NS

System 1:
Races:8
Wins:3
Win $:21.00
Places:4
Place $:8.10

System 2:
Races:7
Wins:2
Win $:18.20
Places:3
Place $:6.30


System 3:
Races:1
Wins:1
Win $:16.20
Places:1
Place $:3.40

[wesmip1]

Warrnambool
R2:2,1,NS
R3:6,4,NS (6 Scratched)
R4:1,1,NS (1 Scratched)
R5:1,1,1
R6:8,5,NS
R7:1,1,1
R8:6,1,6 (6 Scratched)
R9:5,3,NS <-- Results to here so far
R11:8,2,NS
R12:8,1,NS

System 1:
Races:5
Wins:1
Win $:1.60
Places:4
Place $:6.90

System 2:
Races:7
Wins:0
Win $:0.00
Places:3
Place $:6.10

System 3:
Races:2
Wins:0
Win $:0.00
Places:2
Place $:4.50

[wesmip1]

Ok, I couldn't edit the other posts to fix up the results but here are the overall stats :

System 1:
Races:25
Wins:8
Win $:39.40
Places:16
Place $:30.60

System 2:
Races:26
Wins:2
Win $:18.20
Places:10
Place $:18.80

System 3:
Races:7
Wins:2
Win $:19.00
Places:6
Place $:13.20

Overall it appears that System 1 (fastest split times) and System 3 (large margin) seem to be both in profit. I will probably drop system 2 as it is too inconsistent.

I'll try to post tommorrows tips a bit earlier.

[wesmip1]

Here are the tips for tommorrow :

I have decided to scrap system 2. So only Systems 1 and 3 will be quoted here.

Sandown:
R1:1,NS
R2:6,NS
R3:8,8
R4:5,NS
R5:8,8
R6:4,NS
R7:8,NS
R8:6,NS
R9:8,8
R10:6,6
R11:7,NS

Horsham:
R1: Not Enough Form
R2: 8,NS
R3: 6,NS
R4: 8,8
R5: 4,NS
R6: 3,NS
R7: 3,3
R8: 4,NS
R9: 8,8
R10: 7,7

System 1 has 20 Selections
System 3 has 8 Selections. This might be a bit loose and should be tightened up a bit but there are some good selections in these. Particularly R9 and R10 at Horsham.

Good Luck.

[wesmip1]

Horsham has finished its card so I have updated the overall result of system 1 and system 3.

System 1:
Races:33
Wins:10
Win $:44.30
Places:19
Place $:34.60

System 3:
Races:11
Wins:4
Win $:23.90
Places:9
Place $:17.20

So far at Sandown System 1 has picked up (from 3 races) another $6 winner and a second. System 3 has only had 1 race for a second.

[moeee]

Hi Wesnip
Nice to see you putting up before the race
Good Luck buddy
Have you done any testing on past results?
Like,over the past month or so?

[wesmip1]

Moeee,

I have done some past results but not enough to quantify the system as worthwhile yet. I'll keep posting them till the systems show a significant loss ( hopefully this is never ).

Thanks for the response.

[wesmip1]

Traralgon

R1: Not Enough Form Data
R2: 5,NS
R3: 5,NS
R4: 8,NS
R5: 1,NS
R6: 3,NS
R7: 9 (or 4), NS
R8: 7,NS
R9: 2,2
R10: 2,NS

Geelong

R1: 2,NS
R2: Not Enough Form Data
R3: 1,1
R4: 1,NS
R5: 3,NS
R6: 4,NS
R7: 3,3
R8: 8,NS
R9: 3,NS
R10: 1,1
R11: 2,NS
R12: 8,8

A total of 20 races again for System 1 but only 5 Races for System 3 which seems much more reasonable.

[wesmip1]

OK stats at the end of Day 2:

System 1:
Races:44
Wins:16
Win $:64.00
Places:28
Place $:48.20

System 3:
Races:15
Wins:6
Win $:28.30
Places:12
Place $:20.80

Both systems are up.

[moeee]

Keep going Wesnip
I predict that your place betting will bomb out in the next couple days
Good luck with your wins but
If you could get some sort of sifting through the tips by box number or something you may be on a winner.

[wesmip1]

OK stats at the end of Traralgon :

System 1:
Races:53
Wins:19
Win $:74.70
Places:31
Place $:52.80

System 3:
Races:16
Wins:6
Win $:28.30
Places:12
Place $:20.80

Both systems are still up with System 1 getting 3 more winners.

[wesmip1]

OK end of Day 3 and the systems show :

System 1:
Races:62
Wins:20
Win $:76.20
Places:37
Place $:61.60

System 3:
Races:20
Wins:7
Win $:29.80
Places:14
Place $:23.60

Both a still showing a profit. There were a lot of 2nds at Geelong.

[wesmip1]

Saturdays Nights Races :

The Meadows

R1:6,NS
R2:4,NS
R3:3,NS
R4:2,NS
R5:8,8
R6:8,NS
R7:6,NS
R8:6,NS
R9:2,2 <--Best Bet of Meeting
R10:3,NS
R11:6,NS

Healesville

R1:3,NS
R2:1,NS
R3:10 (or 2), NS
R4:7,7
R5:7,7 <--Best bet of Meeting
R6:1,NS
R7:10 (or 6), NS
R8:7,7
R9:7,NS
R10:1,1
R11:4,NS
R12:6, NS


Sale

R1: Not Enough Form
R2: Not Enough Form
R3: 3,NS
R4: 5,NS
R5: 8.NS
R6: 6,NS
R7: 7, NS
R8: 6, NS
R9: Not Enough Form
R10:Not Enough Form

Wangarratta
R1: 7,7
R2: 2,NS
R3: 5,NS
R4: 2,2 <-- Best Bet of Meeting
R5: 7,NS
R6: 6,NS
R7: 3,NS
R8: 3,3
R9: 2,2
R10: 8,NS

System 1 has 39 Selections while System 3 only throws 10 Selections over 4 meetings.

[wesmip1]

Here are the results including Saturday. I can't find the results or tote numbers for Healesville so I have treated that whole meeting as a no bet.

System 1:
Races:87
Wins:25
Win $:94.00
Places:49
Place $:86.20

System 3:
Races:25
Wins:10
Win $:37.10
Places:18
Place $:28.60

System 1 is still showing a profit although it is dwindling. This is because of a large number of second placings.

System 3 is still showing a healthy profit of 48% but there have not been aenough races to confirm its accuracy.

The Best bets I gave at each meeting ( Wangaratta and the Meadows ) both won easily.

[wesmip1]

Only 1 meeting tongith which is Sale.

Sale
R1: 7,NS
R2: 5,5 <-- Best bet of Meeting
R3: 7,NS
R4: 4,NS
R5: 5,NS
R6: 5,NS
R7: 2,NS
R8: 4,NS
R9: 6,6
R10: 8,8 <-- Another good bet.

Good Luck with these.

[Oaksnaf]

Hey do you bet on Healsville? That is a non-TAB event...

Do you head down to the track and bet? Or just follow your selections results wise not betting wise?

There was one certainty at Healsville Race 7) #6 it got knocked at the start and was last then it absolutely stormed home for an easy win in a great time. Would have gone quicker if that track had not been hampered by rain, and had the dog not been hit at the start.

Ahh and here are the results for Healsville:

http://www.grv.org.au/results.php?data=rrhvl22oct.txt&history=hvl

Too easy.

[wesmip1]

Oaksnaf,

Just did Healsville as I had the form guide for it. Didn't bet anything on it.

Thanks for the link.

[wesmip1]

The results again... No winners today but a few places.

System 1:
Races:97
Wins:25
Win $:94.00
Places:53
Place $:95.00

System 3:
Races:27
Wins:10
Win $:37.10
Places:19
Place $:29.90

[wesmip1]

Sorry I didn't get these up earlier but I forgot to post them.

Cranbourne
R1:6,6
R2:Not Enough Form Data
R3:Not Enough Form Data
R4:6,NS
R5:4,NS
R6:7,NS
R7:7,NS
R8:4,NS
R9:3,3
R10:3,NS
R11:6,NS
R12:3,NS

Geelong
R1:Not Enough Data
R2:Not Enough Data
R3:6,NS
R4:8,NS
R5:1,1
R6:7,NS
R7:7,7
R8:4,NS
R9:8,8
R10:6,NS

Bendigo
R1:8,8
R2:6,6
R3:3,NS
R4:9 (or 5),NS
R5:5,NS
R6:5,NS
R7:1,1
R8:1,1
R9:3,NS
R10:3,NS

[wesmip1]

Results

System 1:
Races:114
Wins:27
Win $:110.60
Places:59
Place $:109.90

System 3:
Races:35
Wins:11
Win $:40.30
Places:23
Place $:35.90
Winners of $13.40, $3.20 at Geelong(8 Races), No winners at Bendigo.

[moeee]

Just goes to show,Wesnip,that not to race off to the TAB too early.
The Punting gods seem to have noticed what you are up to and are punishing you for believing you can get away with it!

[wesmip1]

Moeee,

I don't believe I can come up with any system which doesn't require some judgement based on the price at run time.

If I add value into most systems they all work. ( ie only bet if the win is greater than $3 or even sometimes only bet if the win is less than $2).

Making a system which isn't based on value is very hard and at this stage for me is impossible.

But its fun trying ....

Thanks for the reply.

[wesmip1]

Results including Cranbourne

System 1:
Races:124
Wins:29
Win $:123.20
Places:66
Place $:124.20

System 3:
Races:37
Wins:11
Win $:40.30
Places:25
Place $:40.00

Cranbourne had a winner at $9.60 and a $3.00 winner.

[wesmip1]

Todays Races are :


Horsham
R1:4,NS
R2:7,7
R3:5,5
R4:6,6
R5:6,NS
R6:3,NS
R7:7,NS
R8:1,1
R9:7,NS
R10:7,NS

Warragul
R1:6,NS
R2:7,NS
R3:6,NS
R4:8,NS
R5:8,NS
R6:1,NS
R7:1,NS
R8:7,NS
R9:6,6
R10:3,NS
R11:1,1
R12:5,NS

[wesmip1]

Results up to yesterday . It isn't too bad but I don't see this holding up over the longer term.

System 1:
Races:144
Wins:33
Win $:137.80
Places:76
Place $:138.60

System 3:
Races:42
Wins:13
Win $:48.00
Places:28
Place $:43.90