GR 1 Comp Cox Plate

[Raw Instinct]

7-3.30 CARLTON DRAUGHT COX PLATE 2040 M
Of $3025000 Of $3000000 and $25000 trophies. 1st $1800000 and trophies of $16500 to owner $5000 to trainer $2700 to jockey $800 to strapper, 2nd $450000, 3rd $220000, 4th $135000, 5th $110000, 6th $95000, 7th $95000, 8th $95000. Starter Subsidy: $200 for non-prize earning runners. For Three-Years-Old and Upwards. Standard Weight for Age. (GROUP 1). No allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 14+3 EM
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No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen RTG
1 GREYS INN (USA) Mike De Kock W Marwing 2 58 (117)
2 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted B E Johns 7 58 (114)
3 SUPER KID (NZ) John Moore N Rawiller 5 58 (115)
4 CONFECTIONER David Hayes C Williams 12 58 (110)
5 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse L Cassidy 1 58 (112)
6 FIELDS OF OMAGH David Hayes Steven King 10 58 (116)
7 TOSEN DANDY (JPN) Hideyuki Mori M Yoshida 9 58 (105)
8 XCELLENT (NZ) Michael Moroney M T Coleman 13 56.5 (114)
9 OUTBACK PRINCE Anthony Cummings D Beadman 6 56.5 (104)
10 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman G Boss 4 55.5 (121)
11 SKY CUDDLE Peter G Moody G Childs 3 55.5 (107)
12 LOTTERIA Gai Waterhouse C Munce 8 54 (110)
13 GOD'S OWN Bart Cummings S Baster 14 48.5 (107)
14 HOTEL GRAND Anthony Cummings J Ford 11 48.5 (104)

[Raw Instinct]

Had my mind made up here for along time now it is time if he can reward me

Cox Plate: Lad of the Manor (Greys Inn)

[Stix]

2 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted B E Johns 7 58 (114) (6 FIELDS OF OMAGH David Hayes Steven King 10 58 (116) )

[Chuck]

Dear oh dear...

MAKYBE DIVA!

[mad]

Diva

[Matilda]

Let's make it 3-2 in the counting.

Lad of the Manor (Field of Omagh).

[wesmip1]

Well then its 4-2 I agree Lad of the Manor (Gods Own).

[moeee]

I've seen a few of these plates got to the land of the long white cloud.
Put me down for EXCELLENT
And the other champion will win the Melbourne Cup
Yes she will run

[Kanga]

4-3-1.

[Real Deal]

4-4-1

Diva

[ijuandaQLD]

desert war.... lol that comes from nowhere i been tippin LOTM all along lol

[Horse Whisperer]

GREYS INN (DIVA)

[wise one]

Lad of the Manor


Bet smart bet wise

[Matilda]

Statistic as of now :

5-4-1-1-1 to Lad - Diva - X - War - Grey.

[bl4dez]

confectioner 1

[Mr Selby]

God's Own (Lad of the manor)

[umrum]

lad of the manor (Fields of omagh)

[Matilda]

Latest update...
6-4-1-1-1-1-1 to Lad - Diva - God - X - Grey -Confectioner - War

[The Big O]

going to box GI,LAM,LOT,GO for the tri,tossing up whether to include DW.
as for the win........just can't split LOM and GI.

[jim curran]

Lad of the manor

[maverick1993]

Confectioner (Makybe Diva)

[Dazz]

Wet : The Lad

Dry : Gods own. (bottom weights right in it if dry)

i'm very much warming to MD missing out.

Big factor : she hasnt won there.

[Sportz]

Ummm, you have to actually make a tip, Dazz. You can't rely on Raw Instinct deciding for you based on whether it's a wet or dry track. :o

[Sportz]

Lad Of The Manor (God's Own)

[Dazz]

Thats fine with me Sportz,

The Lad (God own)

Cheers

[Silver_and_sand]

Xcellent
1st back-up = God's Own
2nd back-up = Greys Inn

Thanks Raw Instinct. Good luck everyone!

[Raw Instinct]

It's ok Sportz I think it is going to be wet anyway so I already know who he is going.

[MartinFriedman]

..
Smartgambler and Pro-Punter Group 1 Tipping Competition Friedman Family Outsider Selections Sat 22 October 2005
......
Cox Plate:
Martin: #12 Lotteria
Carol: #6 FIELDS OF OMAGH
Zev: #5 Desert War
...

[brave chief]

Makybe Diva (Confectioner)

[feather]

MAKYBE DIVA

( XCELLENT &
GOD'S OWN )

[GreySongDoestheDouble]

Makybe Diva (Fields of Omagh)

[TESTAROSSA]

Makybe Diva (Super Kid)

[xptdriver]

Gday All

I always say have confidence in your ratings so I am going to stick with the Kiwi that is a duffer in the wet ( is there such a thing)

I do like Lotteria's chances as well

22/10/2005 3:30 MOONEE VALLEY 7 8 XCELLENT
22/10/2005 3:30 MOONEE VALLEY 7 12 LOTTERIA

[kiwi]

Xcellent

(was going L of M but everybody has jumped on )

[saratoga samchaz]

I'm too late, but I liked Lotteria. Hope she didn't win. Dam my buddy just im'ed me. 2nd

[maverick1993]

huge run by Lotteria...
fantastic win by the great mare...never been happier losing :)

[Raw Instinct]

Can't say I was happy losing never will be but she won and easily the race once again panned out nothing like I had planned but that is racing isn't it.


Congrats to the horse and her connections and her supporters.

[saratoga samchaz]

How much did she win by?

[mad]

Great stuff the Diva, she is the BEST.

Good old FOO was there abouts as usual, never lets ya down.

[Raw Instinct]

About a length I think

[Shaun]

I didn't back her to win the price was to short.....but the Quin will do me fine

[Raw Instinct]

Once again not a great result for the forum in this race well done to Martin Friedman being the only one to tip Lotteria and with that managed to nab the top points this week.

Martin Friedman 14.70
Mad 13.60
Testarossa 13.60
Real Deal 13.60
Greysongdoesthedouble 13.60
Feather 13.60
Chuck 13.60
Kanga 13.60
Brave Chief 13.60
Carol Friedman 7.80

[Sportz]

Well, I simply couldn't pick Makybe Diva as I am sticking with my tactic of not tipping the horse I really want to win. :D

I could have gone for Fields Of Omagh instead of Lad Of The Manor though.

[Raw Instinct]

Here is the updated overall leader board well done to Mav got the lead there mate long way to go though I would rather be sitting on 133 points than 40 though that is for sure

Tipster Total
Maverick1993 133.00
Real Deal 127.10
Mad 119.00
Testarossa 119.00
Greysongdoesthedouble 111.90
Bl4dez * 98.10
Sportz 94.20
Matilda * 91.40
Umrum * 81.00
ijuandaQLD 74.50
Mr Selby ** 73.90
Feather 70.40
Martin Friedman 66.10
XPTDriver 60.70
Stix 55.60
Chuck 55.30
Chiquita 53.00
Horse Whisperer 50.40
Brave Chief 49.00
Carol Friedman 45.50
Raw Instinct 40.10
Wise One 22.40
Silver and Sand 18.80
Kanga 13.60
Zev Friedman 11.50
Rabbitz 9.80
Unquenchable 9.80
Oaksnaf 9.20
Jim Curran 9.20
Saratoga Samchaz ** 8.70
Kiwi * 8.40

[Sportz]

What happened Raw? I'm confused. According to the Caulfield Cup thread, I was in front last week:

Sportz 109.80
Mad 105.40
Greysongdoesthedouble 101.10
Maverick1993 95.20
Testarossa 94.80
Real Deal 93.40


Now I've gone backwards by $15 and Mav has gone ahead by about $40 despite apparently not getting any money at all this week. Similarly, Real Deal has gone ahead by a fair bit more than he won today.

Have I missed something??? Were last week's figures incorrect?

[mad]

Yeah Mate, there is some funky maths going on there - LOL.

[saratoga samchaz]

thanks there Raw**

[Raw Instinct]

Man I hate computers sometimes

and no worries Saratoga

[Raw Instinct]

Sorry guys here is the real scores aparently the total Scores at Sydney had moved to different peoples names So Mav have aquired sportz' nearly 50 points there it is all fixed now anyway.

Tipster Total
Mad 117.00
Greysongdoesthedouble 114.70
Sportz 109.80
Real Deal 107.00
Testarossa 95.60
Maverick1993 95.20
Chuck 92.30
Silver and Sand 89.80
Feather 87.70
XPTDriver 72.50
Mr Selby ** 72.20
Bl4dez * 64.40
Matilda * 62.20
Horse Whisperer 61.90
Stix 60.50
Carol Friedman 53.70
Brave Chief 53.10
Wise One 50.60
Umrum * 49.10
Raw Instinct 42.50
ijuandaQLD 39.10
Zev Friedman 38.40
Martin Friedman 31.00
Kiwi * 20.80
Saratoga Samchaz ** 17.70
Chiquita * 16.40
Kanga 13.60
Rabbitz ** 9.80
Unquenchable ** 9.80
Oaksnaf ** 9.20
Jim Curran 9.20
Moeee 0.00
Party Pooper * 0.00
Little Imagele ** 0.00
Roman @oz ** 0.00
Green Sapphire ** 0.00
Wesmip1 0.00
Dazz 0.00

[Raw Instinct]

These are the standings for the Melbourne leg of the comp a place where I am sure Mav would ove it to stay in fact the top 5 have all enjoyed tremedous success there.


Tipster Total
Maverick1993 70.30
Mad 68.70
Testarossa 64.30
Greysongdoesthedouble 60.00
Real Deal 59.90
Mr Selby ** 49.00
Matilda * 47.30
Sportz 47.10
Bl4dez * 44.60
Chuck 40.40
ijuandaQLD 39.10
XPTDriver 37.50
Feather 34.20
Martin Friedman 31.00
Horse Whisperer 30.60
Umrum * 27.60
Brave Chief 25.10
Stix 24.30
Dazz 0.00
Raw Instinct 18.60
Carol Friedman 18.60
Chiquita 16.40
Kanga 13.60
Zev Friedman 11.50
Wesmip1 0.00
Wise One 10.00
Silver and Sand 9.80
Rabbitz ** 9.80
Unquenchable ** 9.80
Oaksnaf ** 9.20
Jim Curran 9.20
Saratoga Samchaz ** 8.70
Kiwi * 8.40
Moeee 0.00
Green Sapphire ** 0.00
Little Imagele ** 0.00
Roman @oz ** 0.00

[Raw Instinct]

The following are the files for the NZ, Melb, Syd and the overall tables if you go across the screen a bit it will give you the overall scores.

[Real Deal]

After coming 2nd in the autumn i am currently fully wound out and headed for home. I am going to make my big move on derby day and finish this comp with daylight 2nd. hehe.

(how do i get the happy face in this message not at top?)

[Chuck]

:D is a : followed by D (no space obviously)
:) is a : followed by )
:o is a : and a o

[Chuck]

:eek: is : eek : (minus the spaces
:rolleyes: is : rolleyes :
:mad: is : mad :
;) is ; then )

[Sportz]

The following are the files for the NZ, Melb, Syd and the overall tables if you go across the screen a bit it will give you the overall scores.

Thanks for that. :)

[TESTAROSSA]

Sorry to be a pain Raw, but i was on 94.80 last week and i should be on 108.40 after adding 13.60 for Makybe Diva's win. Plus i think you only gave Mad 11.60 instead of 13.60 as well.

[mad]

Sorry to be a pain Raw, but i was on 94.80 last week and i should be on 108.40 after adding 13.60 for Makybe Diva's win. Plus i think you only gave Mad 11.60 instead of 13.60 as well.
What!!!
Trying to shaft me out of two dollars are ya Raw?

[Sportz]

Running these comps isn't easy, hey Raw??? :D

[Raw Instinct]

Man my probalem has been trying to get excel to work out properly for me kept on getting errors happening all over the place think it is worked out now can't help human error though :(

[Raw Instinct]

Mad I have given you 13.60 according to my files maybe I am going nuts but it looks right Testa I am going to go back over it but I think the mistake may have been there last week aswell I will make sure of it though mate sorry.

[Raw Instinct]

Testa you were right and I was last week somehow amongst all of this your win on Xcellent in the Kelt went missing from your score that is what had me baffled I checked out your total scores in Sydney it was fine and then checked out Melbourne it was fine trust it to be the last thing I looked at. All fixed now and the new file will be attatched to this.

[mad]

Sorry Raw mate but you only gave me 11.60.

This week = 117
Last week = 105.40
Difference = 11.60

Should be 119 - No?

[Raw Instinct]

Ok fair enough now it makes sense I was looking at the points for melbourne and so that was why I thought I had given it to you sorry mate.

[Raw Instinct]

Mad I have just gone through and recalculated all of your scores and sorry mate but there must have been a stuff up last week it is 100% right now if it is any consolation you are still leading.

[mad]

No probs mate, thanks for that.

[TESTAROSSA]

Yeah thanks Raw, appreciate everything your doing

[Merriguy]

This is as much fun as trying to understand Hay Chee :D You are doing a great job, Raw. Thanks.

[moeee]

I've seen a few of these plates got to the land of the long white cloud.
Put me down for EXCELLENT
And the other champion will win the Melbourne Cup
Yes she will run

I make mistake.
Yes will run.No won't win.
Not even a place.
You can't have your COX and eat it too.
Unless you are as good as PHAR LAP.