My free lunch betting system

[gift horse]

How many of you have heard of the Free Lunch betting system? Not many I bet, because it has been one of my quietly kept secrets for many, many years. Can you work it out from last Saturday's winners? I'll give you a clue. Calidan won at Rosehill and paid $55.90. Check it's last start. But that's all I'm revealing. I reckon my system is worth more than $10,000. That's how good it is.

[breadman]

thanx for the clue gift horse now i have it. back any horse over $50 providing the jockey is over 50. how did i go? hehehe

[crash]

A system that throws up $50+ winners ? OK. how about a few of those selections in advance as proof. My $10k is ready and waiting:-))

Like I said in another post about forum content. All we have here now is tips and empty bragging rights.

[darkydog2002]

Here is the latest mail out from our friendly system seller.

BANK $750 / BETTING 4 % OF BANK // REDUCING TO 3 % AT $16,500/ AVERAGE WEEKLY WAGE $1200 AFTER $97,000 WAS DEDUCTED IN WAGES.

Ho Ho .And I,m a dutchman.

Cheers.
darky.

[Chinbok]

It's last start was beaten 13 lengths for it's first time in the wet.

The time was good for its run before that over the same distance but you would have to question it's ability to handle the track condition.

[KennyVictor]

Up in distance and moving from a dry track to a wet one - didn't have the fitness race before last. Also it's bad race was in a class 1 where all the others have been class 3 but I don't know how that fits in.

[Racer]

40 years ago I was taking Frank Browne, a top Aussie bloke, and
a journalist for the Sydney Daily Mirror home to Avalon he was P..... as a Parrot but could still chat.
He was telling me stories about a bunch of young lawyers he called,'The Legal Eagles'.

Years later I was reading Don Scott's early book and he referred to Frank
having written a piece in the Mirror after being astounded by....

"A unique system - I have heard many theories of how to win big money on
horses, but this is unique.

You single out a nine year old gelding.Not any nine-year old gelding,
but one who has never won a race in the Metrop. area.

Then provided that his last win was 15 months ago,at the Bong Bong Picnic Races,you are on the right track.

However, there is a vast ammount of work between you and the pelf.
His form must survive the test laid down in the long ago, by one
Pittsburgh Phil.
Between that win he must put together the following form.

Eighth, 11 months later, at Randwick over 10 furlongs.
Fourth in a field of five at Kembla.
Then he must return to Bong Bong and run third in a race for amateur riders.

Then,another eighth at Randwick after being seventh on the home turn,
over 10 furlongs.
Seventh at Canterbury passing three horses from the top of the straight.

Finally, he must have raced in a mile and a half at Randwick, settled down last to be eighth on the home turn, passed three horses and run a distant fifth.

You are now ready to break the Books.

You then wait until he is entered at Canterbury in a nine and a half furlong
novice,and you go in with your ears back.

You say nothing to anybody, not even his trainer,and above all you take no notice of the fact that this animal is quoted by the Bookies at 50/1, and that most of the said bookies have forgotten more about racing than you have learned, and have the assets to prove it.

You simply put more on, and back the horse into 15/1, simply because on the form revealed, you have tested him and he qualifies according to the late
Pittsburgh Phil.

This is not my theory. It is the theory expounded by the acknowledged
leader of a trio of young gentlemen known as the Legal Eagles, who are
currently becoming quite famous as well-informed plungers."

[Goodwin]

Calindan has had 9 starts before last Saturday, the best race that it has won is a C3 3YO MID-WEEK 1200 m race ($22).

Its last start was in a C3 3YO 1400m race ($55) Saturday meeting, this horse has had 2 starts on DEAD track for 1 win & 1 third. Its first up form is GOOD 4 starts for 2,0,1. <O:p></O:p>

I believe that its last start is the glue because is has been given the same weight again & it ran LAST. This horse should have been given less weight starting in the same class considering where it finished, on its best win & its first up record the handicapper has seen that it has class compared to the rest of the field.
It was 49 days since its last run so l would say that is close enough to a spell, March 3 2005 it won by 2.5 lenths first up so wet track is not a problem.

No i did not back it but feedback on my thoughts would be good,

Bopper <O:p></O:p>

[Wunfluova]

Calidan hadn't finished any worse than 4th at it's first eight starts on good and dead tracks but was then beaten 12.8 len at it's first run on a slow track at Randwick. The stewards report for this race gave "unable to handle track conditions" as the reason for the poor run so when it went around at Rosehill next start on slow ground of course no one wanted to be on, hence the long odds.

Unless someone can mount a convincing argument that the slow at Rosehill was somehow different from the slow at Randwick then it would be fair to say that the stewards have given punters a bum steer par excellence. Hopefully the latest stewards report will address the improved performance under similiar conditions.

wunfluova

[lomaca]

According to my rating, Calidan came first in place %, first in 'beaten margin rating' , and second in time and in 'down in class rating'.
Note however that my class rating is my own, and can be very different from "official" class rating.
And NO I did not put money on it, because I have not been betting for the last couple of weeks. (fishing and having a few beers in a warmer clime)
Good luck

[partypooper]

From a systemites point a view it was a bet in many respects, in fact I sent Darkydog a copy of a system just a few weeks ago for which it was a CLEAR selection, another system that I posted a while ago was simply any horse that won it's second last race, but then finished 5th or WORSE last start. of course then you start on the filters, but under rule 1 it's on!

But also 77% place record, first up record and distance record all could not be sniffed at. Not to mention it's in the top 6 (Tab 1-6 with a win in it's exposed form)

And no....... of course I didn't back it!!!

[Chinbok]

I'm only new here but this is the second instance I've seen lately of people sending Darkydog their winning selections/systems.

Why is this and can you send them to me too please :)

[partypooper]

Chinbok, yeah no probs, just post your e-mail and I'll send a few down the line.

[Chrome Prince]

I'm only new here but this is the second instance I've seen lately of people sending Darkydog their winning selections/systems.

Why is this and can you send them to me too please :)

Chinbok,

Sometimes we don't want to post systems on a public forum, as it reduces the odds if everyone uses it, and often these systems are pinched and sold by unscrupulous people.

I have contact with quite a few people off forum, and we toss around ideas and help each other out.

I never share everything with everyone, but am quite happy to share ideas to trusted individuals who have been part of the forum for a while.

It works both ways though, for example Darkydog has sent me quite a lot of info and given me his opinions of various strategies and profit loss breakdowns.

[Stix]

Chinbok,

Sometimes we don't want to post systems on a public forum, as it reduces the odds if everyone uses it, and often these systems are pinched and sold by unscrupulous people.

I have contact with quite a few people off forum, and we toss around ideas and help each other out.

I never share everything with everyone, but am quite happy to share ideas to trusted individuals who have been part of the forum for a while.

It works both ways though, for example Darkydog has sent me quite a lot of info and given me his opinions of various strategies and profit loss breakdowns.Hey Chrome and all

Do you have an experience of this happening? Just curious.....

Darky is the system King..... love his systems... he's has bazziliions ! :D ...and there are some bona fide profit turners......

[Chrome Prince]

Do you have an experience of this happening? Just curious.....


Yes Stix,

Without mentioning names and publications....

First time I was a bit peeved

Second time I was really p*ssed off, especially when the cockroach tried to make out like I stole it.

Third time, I stopped posting rules for anything that is tried and profitable.

You live and learn.

[dingoboy]

Hey CP,

Come on, give a little but more info please, sounds juicy.

Did they (he/she) actually sell it, you should be as proud as punch if they did!

I would love one of them to sell one of mine,....i could brag to my mates all day (only joking)

Who did it, if you can give a hint,...ill shun them if they are ones i use.

I too have contact with forum members privatally and all of the contacts that i converse with are awsome, never had a problem and are more than pleased to help.

Saying that, i appologise to the lads if they have been trying to email me, my service provider went bust, so no internet, now im trialling an unwirred set up, not sure if its going to work well.

Cheers Ding

[Chrome Prince]

dingoboy,

Can't give specifics, one instance was another website with a forum, two instances were racing magazines.

I'll tell you why I wasn't happy....

Sure, it's good to have something published or be recognised, but my ideas were to be shared for free with other members of this forum. I did a LOT of hard work, put in a lot of hours of research, and thought I'll share a few things.

When someone crawls out of the gutter and grabs it claiming "they" put in the work, it's "their" idea, then I get mad. To make matters worse, they don't even have the decency to acknowledge what they have done. Or even give mention that the idea was from another author - me.

On top of all that they are making money off something that was shared for free in good faith.

It goes even further, but won't burden everyone with the gory details, but they tried to tarnish my credibility - unsuccessfully.

When your timing is off and you turn the ignition to try and get a spark, you naturally get a backfire, especially when the carby is full of fuel.

A very appropriate analogy.

The only hints I can give are:

One is a washed up magazine that churns out repetitive stuff that always loses and tries to get new content. They can't think for themselves to make deadline, so scan all racing forums and pinch whatever sounds good.

The other is a young buck trying to make a name for himself in the industry with his merry band of followers, who are blind to what he's really doing.

[bradw]

I can support Chrome Prince's position regarding stolen material as I have alerted him at times to such theft.

As these forums are public there is nothing that can be done about it.

It is unfortunate because small ideas planted into someone else's head can produce some great ideas.

[bradw]

BUMP

[dingoboy]

Thanks Chrome.

Why dont we design a "system that is the best" but in actuality is a failure. Make all atempts to make it the biggest thing on the forum with thousands of views and "marvelous comments" from us,..things like "Ah chrome,...this is the best thing ive ever used",...or,...."Chrome,...i must thank you,....900 % POT on level stakes every racing day,...thank you"

We Could try and stir the kettle and see if they take the bait,...that would be funny.

Mongrels !!!!

Does the young buck have his own web site ?

Ding