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wesmip1
13th September 2006, 10:46 PM
Ok first thread screwed up for some reason

This is based on winners that win well.

Rules:
1. Must have won by at least 3.5 lengths last start
2. Must be running on the same track condition today ( soft last start and soft today).

Thats it.

Selections : 1102
Win $ : 1179
Winners : 279

This is an easy systm that follows KISS principles. Adding extra filters to this does it improve it immensly but I can't give you everything

Good Luck.

breadman
14th September 2006, 07:55 AM
Why not? LOL

wesmip1
14th September 2006, 05:25 PM
Breadman,

LOL Nice response ...

But truely ... I can't give away everything I do.

Good Luck

Stix
14th September 2006, 05:36 PM
Breadman,

LOL Nice response ...

But truely ... I can't give away everything I do.

Good Luck
Why not? LOL

Oaksnaf
14th September 2006, 05:53 PM
Must have run within the past 21 days?

wesmip1
14th September 2006, 10:51 PM
Ok here are few

... WIN % >= 20%
... UnitTab Rating >= 96
... has a 'C' beside its name
... has a 'D' beside its name
... Same Jockey

and oaksnaf's is correct but drop it down to 14 days, 21 days usually means they pulled up sore after the win (unless its a 1800+ distance, then they just need the rest ).

They all increase the results significantly.

Good Luck.

Jimmy
15th September 2006, 12:22 AM
Thanks for this wesmip, something to ponder

A combination of factors might reduce bets, increase strike rate

Even a quick look at Thursday with a tweak just using the following;

win > 3.5 lengths
win % > 30%

Could have included (same jockey and conditions similar ...??Mr Gold Fire racing from dead to slow, but won 2 previous on heavy) but would have arrived at same selections

2 bets
Morn R5 4 Stanzout W 6.40 2.40 unitab
Ballina R7 1 Mr Gold Fire W 3.50 1.60 unitab

no selections Friday Sale R6 4 Haka Brave has low 14% win percentage

Interesting to see how your filters alter your results

Cheers
Jimmy

leroy
4th October 2006, 10:47 AM
Ok here are few

... WIN % >= 20%
... UnitTab Rating >= 96
... has a 'C' beside its name
... has a 'D' beside its name
... Same Jockey

and oaksnaf's is correct but drop it down to 14 days, 21 days usually means they pulled up sore after the win (unless its a 1800+ distance, then they just need the rest ).

They all increase the results significantly.

Good Luck.Do you get many bets using all those filters ?
Can you run the following please?
won last start by >3.5L
win s/r >20%
Has a "c" or a "d"
last start within 14 days

thanks
Leroy

good luck with the new arrival

wesmip1
4th October 2006, 04:44 PM
won last start by >3.5L
win s/r >20%
Has a "c" or a "d"
last start within 14 days

Returns approx 93%.

Add same condition as last race and it increases to :

Increases it to 101%.

Try thinking outside the box ....

leroy
4th October 2006, 05:01 PM
Ok here are few

... WIN % >= 20%
... UnitTab Rating >= 96
... has a 'C' beside its name
... has a 'D' beside its name
... Same Jockey

and oaksnaf's is correct but drop it down to 14 days, 21 days usually means they pulled up sore after the win (unless its a 1800+ distance, then they just need the rest ).

They all increase the results significantly.

Good Luck.
What are the results using all of these?

wesmip1
4th October 2006, 09:31 PM
OK here are a couple for you

I modifed Win % to be slightly better ...

WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%


Good Luck.

partypooper
5th October 2006, 01:17 AM
wesmip1, thanks for this one, it really helps, and also thanks for all your efforts greatly appreciated.

leroy
5th October 2006, 07:48 AM
Thanks Wes, again..
I asume thats each of those are on top of:-
won >3.5L
same track condition
same jockey
Do you have the number of bets/WINS/$ returned ?

thanks mate
sorry if i'm being a pain in the butt, it all really helps
and very much appreciated.

Leroy

Panther
5th October 2006, 09:13 AM
Why are the letters '****' being blanked out?

leroy
5th October 2006, 09:19 AM
no idea

wesmip1
5th October 2006, 09:47 PM
yep on top of

won >3.5L
same track condition

Didn't do same jockey forgot....

For numbers
Avg Bets a year : approx 380

Thats all of the following put together :
WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%

wombathq
6th October 2006, 03:42 PM
yep on top of

won >3.5L
same track condition

Didn't do same jockey forgot....

For numbers
Avg Bets a year : approx 380

Thats all of the following put together :
WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%
Hi Wesmip
All looks good, just wondering what % you get for place bets only?

wesmip1
6th October 2006, 04:35 PM
Placing is showing approx 93% return .. so showing a loss overall.

leroy
7th October 2006, 02:45 PM
BELMONT R2-2 LACHINO 1ST $5.50 (CITY BEST)

THANKS WES

leroy
7th October 2006, 02:46 PM
RACE 1 THAT WAS

wesmip1
7th October 2006, 04:56 PM
There were actually 3 selections for this today :

LACHINO - Belmont Race 1 - Won by 4.75 last outing
EMERGENCE - Murtoa Race 3 - Won by 6 last outing
JUST PEACHES - Gold Coast Race 5 - won by 3.8 last outing.

The placings were ($ based on best odds)

LACHINO - WIN $5.50 / $3.00
EMERGENCE - WIN $2.90 / $2.60
JUST PEACHES - 3rd $2.00

Not a bad day at all.

Good Luck.

leroy
7th October 2006, 05:06 PM
There were actually 3 selections for this today :

LACHINO - Belmont Race 1 - Won by 4.75 last outing
EMERGENCE - Murtoa Race 3 - Won by 6 last outing
JUST PEACHES - Gold Coast Race 5 - won by 3.8 last outing.

The placings were ($ based on best odds)

LACHINO - WIN $5.50 / $3.00
EMERGENCE - WIN $2.90 / $2.60
JUST PEACHES - 3rd $2.00

Not a bad day at all.

Good Luck.Only backed Lachino,
Emergence 15% win s/r?
Just peaches 14%and uni-tab rating of only 93?
I was happy with 1 out of 1
Cheers
Leroy

wesmip1
7th October 2006, 06:32 PM
Criteria is :

WIN % >= 30% or
has a 'C' beside its name or
has a 'D' beside its name or
UnitTab Rating >= 96

Just peaches had a 'C' beside its name
Emergence had a 'D' beside its name

Good Luck.

wesmip1
7th October 2006, 06:36 PM
EMERGENCE had a 'D"
JUST PEACHES had a 'C'

Criteria is any of the following :

WIN % >= 30%
has a 'C' beside its name
has a 'D' beside its name
UnitTab Rating >= 96

leroy
7th October 2006, 06:41 PM
OK, THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
NO WONDER I HAV'NT BEEN ABLE TO FIND MANY
I'LL GO HAVE ANOTHER BEER NOW!!!
CHEERS
LEROY

leroy
9th October 2006, 10:54 AM
yep on top of

won >3.5L
same track condition

Didn't do same jockey forgot....

For numbers
Avg Bets a year : approx 380

Thats all of the following put together :
WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%So can i asume the % are better with same jockey?

Also what are numbers like when you use the same rules for all last start winners?

Thanks
Leroy

wesmip1
9th October 2006, 05:38 PM
So can i asume the % are better with same jockey?
Yes significantly better.

Also what are numbers like when you use the same rules for all last start winners?
They show a loss of around 10%.

leroy
9th October 2006, 05:41 PM
Thanks mate