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discipline pays
7th October 2006, 01:53 PM
Whats going on with that ride? Will we hear more?

xanadu
7th October 2006, 02:07 PM
Time will tell. Do you remember the lead up to the Golden Slipper....will the "untouchables" be required to explain.....?

Cheers.

Panther
7th October 2006, 02:22 PM
Don't know if we'll hear more, but judging by David Hayes response from Sydney Craig Williams might hear a lot, with many expletives included in the conversation.

xanadu
7th October 2006, 02:45 PM
TVN's explanation regarding sectionals certainly puts things into perspective regarding Miss Finland's run.
What sort of a day is C. Williams having currently, with Dance Hero breaking through the barrier?
Although, his ride was OK-no problem( I was on Fast 'N' Famous-taking that "mexican" money is so sweet)!
If you have watched D Hayes in some of his post-race interviews you would note that he can be very succinct in his appraisal(s) of his top jockey's performance.
Then again, he had that Group 1 winner in Sydney(SR6 Tawqeet $18.7w $5.2plNSW) to soothe his pain(and I also was on it)!
Perfect "cups" horse, I certainly think so but we will have to monitor it's progress leading up to the big races.
Stix....we are certainly enjoying J O'Shea's success!

Cheers.

xanadu
18th October 2006, 12:13 PM
Punters will recollect in the autumn when in the race prior to the Golden Slipper, Miss Finland was ridden "upside-down" then of course went on to win the Slipper at it's next start.
Interestingly, last start, Miss Finland appeared to be ridden "upside down," with "tearaway" tactics being employed and of course it was found wanting in the run to the line costing punters many $100k's.
We will be watching with great interest to see what tactics are employed today.....punters, you will have to make up your own mind whether it's last run was an aberration and whether it warrants a sizeable wager today.

Cheers.

discipline pays
18th October 2006, 02:03 PM
Deja Vu all over again !!

xanadu
18th October 2006, 02:11 PM
That's right, discipline pays,.....well, what can you say?
Miss Finland certainly is a "class" filly and won in a driving finish.
However, did you notice the complete change in riding tactics?
As "Pauline" would say: "please explain....!"
I anticipated this improved performance so I am not talking through my pocket....quite the contrary!
However, shouldn't questions be asked?

Cheers.

Sportz
18th October 2006, 02:21 PM
Did anyone seriously expect the horse was going to lead today? Surely not?

I agree that questions needed to be asked after the previous run, but not this one. I'm sure that most people expected the horse to be ridden back today. The only problem was that if anything, it was ridden TOO FAR back!

xanadu
18th October 2006, 03:34 PM
Yeah, righto, Sportz,

In that case who do think should have asked those questions?
I reiterate.....aren't connections of all runners obliged to advise the stewards and betting public regarding any proposed change in riding tactics?

Cheers.

Tubby
18th October 2006, 04:29 PM
aren't connections of all runners obliged to advise the stewards and betting public regarding any proposed change in riding tactics?
Yes they are but I think what Sportz is saying is that her pattern of racing today was closer to her usual racing pattern and most punters would have expected her to be ridden back. Her last race however was the odd one out.

Sportz
18th October 2006, 04:43 PM
Exactly. The way she ran today is the way that most punters would have expected her to.

Would be a tad strange. Having to inform punters that the horse is going to be ridden exactly how they think she's going to be ridden. ;)

go4it
19th October 2006, 08:06 AM
Think you guys,as experienced punters,are missing the boat here(somewhat).

It was blatantly obvious (even to blind freddy)that the horse "bolted"on Craig last time out,and there was nothing he could do about it,except ************ hang on and steer!!

Something must have spooked her before they jumped last time,as we all know,she does not normally behave or race like that.

David Hayes,although extremely P....d off,must have realized that,hence Williams retained the ride.I doubt that Hawkes would have the same amount of tolerance given the same scenario.

Look what Freedman did to Jim Byrne after Spheno's unlucky run.

And what did he want to do to Nikolic with Mummify a few years back?

And who does he call on now to replace Jimbo?

Ah what a fickle game is racing.

I hope Jimbo craps in his face by beating him home,but IMO neither Spheno/Ice C. can win anyway.

xanadu
28th October 2006, 02:41 PM
Post4,

I hope that fellow forumites benefited from my advice in post 4 when I nominated Tawqeet as a perfect cups horse.....and didn't he prove this to be correct by winning the Caulfield Cup paying $19.0w $5.2plNSW).
The big question is....can this horse go one better and win the Melbourne Cup?

Cheers.