Don Scott's Ratings

[Benny]

in his book winning in the 90's Don doesn't metion a rating for a class 3 for either syd sat or mid week. I figue about 52 for a sta class 3 and 51 for a midweek class considering that a country midweek class 3 is 46 and sat class 3 would be a bit stronger.

Can anyone please advise?

benny

[AngryPixie]

You might try this. If you look at the NSW "Ratings Based Handicapping Template" a horse jumping from a Country Class 3 to a Saturday metro 3YO&UP Class 3 would expect to carry 4-6kg less in the city. In fact the template basically gives this as an example.

"A Class 3 horse rated 77 could ascertain the following weights across the template
...
Metropolitan Class 3 = 58kg
...
Country Class 3 = 63.5kg"

Just an idea, but it does throw Don's scales out a bit. I guess we have moved on 16 years since that book was published.

[crash]

Don Scott died dead broke. The bookies cleaned him out :-)

[travelrock]

Betting midweek is desperate. Stick to rating proper races.

[stugots]

Betting midweek is desperate. Stick to rating proper races.

your opinion which i stongly disagree with,

plenty of 'good' betting races mon thru fri, saturdays? plenty of class & glamour but often the hardest day of the week to turn a quid, sundays are usually mostly rubbish & one should have at least one day a week away from the nags

& what exactly is a 'proper race'?

[travelrock]

If you say so.

[AngryPixie]

If there's a race on there's an opportunity. There's more than one way to skin the punting cat. In my view it's a matter of matching the method to the situation. It's a race to race, day to day thing ;)

PS: No punting on Sundays and non-Public Holiday Mondays for me. There are other things. ;)

[travelrock]

Who was the person that worked out the different ways to skin a cat?

Must have been starving to do that LOL

[stugots]

If you say so.

i do

[stugots]

& what exactly is a 'proper race'?

& thanks for clearing that up...

[peterpan]

travelrock,

I too wait in anticipation of your answer of what is a " proper" race.

Today we had, according to you a low class meeting at Scone held on a slow7 track.

Again according to you this meeting should be avoided at all costs.

It seems that in an 8 race program on a slow track that 5 yes five favourites saluted.

Can you please post here the last time that 5 favs won on a sat metro meeting where all the races are proper races.

[xptdriver]

Betting midweek is desperate. Stick to rating proper races.

I am pretty sure that if you find the winner of a Sale Maiden at 5/1 on a thursday afternoon and find the winner of the Cox plate at 5/1... and have 100 on each... I am pretty sure you end with the same amount of cash in the pocket... from each winner...

IMO as a participant in country racing..What you have written there, is insulting to all involved in country and midweek racing around the country..

Proper races??? gimme a break...

[travelrock]

If betting on Maidens is your thing go for it. Sounds pretty desperate to me.

I don't back favourites very often so i don't care how many Favs win on Sat. If you go around backing favs every race you will lose more often than not.

A proper race to me is a race where horses have a bit of class about them and the form means something.

If you like low class crappy midweek races then go for it.

[YoungBuck]

I know of a very successful pro punter who rarely bets on Saturday's, and mainly concentrates on midweek racing. There are plenty of betting opportunities and standout selections during the week. You can often find good horses relative to the opposition it is facing.

[stugots]

A proper race to me is a race where horses have a bit of class about them and the form means something.

If you like low class crappy midweek races then go for it.

hmm, & how do you reckon most of these 'horses that have a bit of class about them' get to a 'proper race'?

no maidens, class 1/2/3's etc on a wet & windy tuesday means no 'proper racing' on the saturday

& while were about it, give me an average midweek meeting over the merrygorounds held in sydney most saturdays

[peterpan]

travelrock,

You know what you have caused me a great deal of concern today, I backed Rosekay Heart in the first in Brisbane today.
I backed it on nswtab and victab, equal amounts on each to give me a divi of 12.05.

Now the problem I have had is because of the extremely low class of the race I have been worried all day whether I should keep the money or give it back because really I must have just fluked it.

All the best.

[jfc]

travelrock,

You know what you have caused me a great deal of concern today, I backed Rosekay Heart in the first in Brisbane today.
I backed it on nswtab and victab, equal amounts on each to give me a divi of 12.05.

Now the problem I have had is because of the extremely low class of the race I have been worried all day whether I should keep the money or give it back because really I must have just fluked it.

All the best.

I note that Best of 3 Totes i.e. $13.00 was offered today for that meeting.

[peterpan]

Do you mean centreracing????

[jfc]

Do you mean centreracing????

No.

The outfit I had in mind is not currently advertising here so I won't name them.

But for all I know some of the advertisers here might also match that.

[peterpan]

Is that outfit offering best tote on all midweek races????

Also if you win off them over a long time basis do they cut your bets back or ban you???

This is the problem I had with centreracing.

[jfc]

Is that outfit offering best tote on all midweek races????

Also if you win off them over a long time basis do they cut your bets back or ban you???

This is the problem I had with centreracing.

All metro midweek apparently. And they claim not to sack players - even if you're staking a tidy sum - providing you give them enough time to manage their position.

Meanwhile Sportingbet (which does advertise here) had Maxidiv for Eagle Farm today.

"MaxiDiv guarantees a dividend that is at least the better of the highest official Win dividend paid by the three national TAB’s or the official starting price."

Even better than 3 Totes.

Trouble is their sacking policy has been the subject of much controversy.

[peterpan]

jfc,

Thanks for that, and you are correct about sportingbet they have a similar policy to centreracing.
This is the biggest problem facing people today that bet full time, it's alright for all the adds and spruking from a huge amount of corporate bookie sites, but there are very few that will keep you on if you constantly win.
The only one I have found is IAS whom I use for fixed odds ( when it is to my benefit).
I have taken a reasonable amount of money off them in the past couple of months with no problem at this stage.

All the best.

[travelrock]

Unless you are winning hundreds of thousands they couldnt give a crap about you.