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Hammers
1st January 2007, 09:40 AM
Happy New Year all,

Could someone tell me where I can find the AAP Neurals now? I've looked at the new website for the first time in ages and I can't seem to find them. Has the service been scrapped?

Cheers,

Hammers

michaelg
1st January 2007, 09:48 AM
No, they're still there and with added information.

The website is now racingandsports.com.au

Michael.

Hammers
1st January 2007, 10:15 AM
Thanks Michael,

I was going to aap website not racing and sports.

The new pricing and handicap features are great. I wonder how long something like this will be free?

Bhagwan
11th January 2007, 07:53 PM
See: Racingandsports
Pre-post market.

Finally after 25 years of home based computers, there is now a pre-post market available .

No thanks to multi-million $ TABs, except for WA limited offering
or multi-million dollar news paper groups who already print a pre-post market but not one on-line .

Seems to prove the TABs arrogance or ignorance.
It's a case of either ...
Can or cant
OR
Will or wont.

A high percentage of punters like the idea of having access to one , regardless of the many reasons or accuracies, they just like having one .

Look how many times we have seen requests from punters enquiring for a market on-line, only to be advised there isnt one (except sometimes on certain races when they feel like it , WA TAB ,which is deleted as soon as the races start)
Hard to beleive that this is the thinking of a multi-billion dollar industry.

I beleive the head chaps at the various TABs get paid over $1Mil dollars a year.
If that is what one gets for a Mil , I want my money back.


I heard one reason that surgests that race clubs wanted a royalty if using their name .
If that were the case, they should ask for a royalty from every tipping or rating service & anyone who mentions that clubs name or race.
No one could afford to even mention a race for fear of having to pay a royalty. That reason does not make sence to me.

Why would every single race club in Australia, including the struggling ones , prefer to have nothing, rather than the possability of their races receiving , extra exposure to their event, raising awareness to the public in general, through a pre-post market, that costs them nothing.

Does anyone know why pre-posts are not readily available?
Maybe there is a good reason out there as to why it has taken 25 years.

Cheers.

crash
12th January 2007, 05:07 AM
The new pp odds have been there at GRS for some time. Quite frankly I don't think much of them because you have to open a new page for every race, unlike the WA tab site where a whole meeting can be viewed on 1 page [handy for checking out the race fields too] and the odds are in $, not fractions.

How many punters nowadays know what prices in $ they are looking at when they see the old fashioned odds method that is being used at GRS? Still, at least it's something to get a general idea of the horses chances and the more sources of pp odds on-line the better.

GRS is great for checking out gear changes ['Steward's Room'], especially since a certain other site [cannot be named here] starting with 'E' has recently removed that free service.

Wunfluova
12th January 2007, 05:57 AM
especially since a certain other site [cannot be named here] starting with 'E' has recently removed that free service.<!-- / message -->
Crash, if it's the one I am thinking of, they are still there - under 'Daily Racing'.

crash
12th January 2007, 06:20 AM
Thanks for that Wunfluova.

Sportz
12th January 2007, 06:28 AM
Quite frankly I don't think much of them because you have to open a new page for every race, unlike the WA tab site where a whole meeting can be viewed on 1 page [handy for checking out the race fields too] and the odds are in $, not fractions.


crash,

There's a button there you can click on to change them to decimals.

I think they're pretty good.

crash
12th January 2007, 07:16 AM
That's good to know Sportz. Is there also a button so that a meeting can be viewed on one page ?

Chrome Prince
12th January 2007, 11:17 AM
I've been more disappointed with the prepost odds on offer, because all sites seem to be way off in many instances.
I don't know which prepost market has the best track record for accuracy, but I like to stick to bookies openers.
Even bookies openers can be out up to 50%, but of course we have percentages of 133% plus on the first at Randwick, so there's plenty of room for improvement ;)

Sportz
12th January 2007, 01:36 PM
Unfortunately not, crash. It would be good!

crash
12th January 2007, 03:42 PM
Personally and after about 5yrs. of regular use, I find the WA tab. site about as good as it gets for sp odds [they are done mechanically from a data-base program, not by the office boy] which isn't really saying a lot I guess.

I kept records for over a year [had to copy them before the 1st. races as they disappear after a race is run], but lost them in a OS crash. I haven't bothered collecting them again since then, but I did do a lot of comparing their odds with the Sat. Age and Herald-Sun for Sat. metro meetings. I also back things up regularly to another HD now!