OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums - KING’S STAND STAKES G2 1000M

westman

6th June 2007, 04:34 PM

Tuesday 19 June 2007
Ascot Racecourse , United Kingdom

Early Betting (All In):

MISS ANDRETTI 4.00 1.75
TAKEOVER TARGET 5.50 2.12
BENBAUN 7.00 2.50
BENTLEY BISCUIT 7.00 2.50
DAZED AND AMAZED 7.00 2.50
DESERT LORD 7.00 2.50
MAGNUS 7.00 2.50
TAX FREE 7.00 2.50
MOSS VALE 11.00 3.50
BALTIC KING 13.00 4.00
FIRENZE 13.00 4.00
LES ARCS 13.00 4.00
PIVOTAL POINT 13.00 4.00
RED CLUBS 17.00 5.00
ENTICING 21.00 6.00
THE TATLING 21.00 6.00
RIVER FALCON 26.00 7.25
WI DUD 26.00 7.25
HAMOODY 35.00 9.50
CONTEST 51.00 13.50
MOORHOUSE LAD 51.00 13.50
THE TRADER 51.00 13.50
THEANN 51.00 13.50
CONQUEST 71.00 18.50
BINIOU 101.00 26.00
BOND CITY 101.00 26.00
DHAULAR DHAR 101.00 26.00
ELHAMRI 101.00 26.00
FACCHETTI 101.00 26.00
GREEN MANALISHI 101.00 26.00
INTREPID JACK 101.00 26.00
JIMMY RYAN 101.00 26.00
KING ORCHISIOS 101.00 26.00
MANZILA 101.00 26.00
DANDY MAN 151.00 38.50
NOTA BENE 151.00 38.50
MATSUNOSUKE 201.00 51.00

westman

6th June 2007, 04:45 PM

The straight course at Ascot underwent complete reconstruction ahead of the course’s reopening in 2006. Ascot now has an uninterrupted straight mile course following the elimination of the road crossing and a completely new drainage system has been integrated. The King’s Stand Stakes is run on the final 1200m (last 1000m) of the straight mile, with the course rising gradually throughout from the start to the winning post.

westman

6th June 2007, 05:23 PM

G'day pharfromoz :) being northern hemisphere located, any thoughts on non Oz horses, anything from the states nominated?

humdinger

6th June 2007, 07:04 PM

humdinger

6th June 2007, 10:40 PM

Dazed and Amazed has done little most recent starts..,,still to recapture his early age form..,,at $7 happy to risk

WAOS

7th June 2007, 05:11 AM

Benbaun (IRE) - just beat by Takeover Target in last years race..,,runner-up or winner all 4 starts since including a first-up win over 1200m at the Curragh late last month..,,has to be a top chance this year

If you fancy Benbaun then you'd have to give Desert Lord a chance!
A real speed machine over the 5 furlongs.
Just pipped by Benbaun when last they met.

squirtz

8th June 2007, 08:18 AM

...one of my bets last year was Tax Free..was up with them for the 1st 700/800 but slowly dropped off to be beatan about 5 lens..won 5 races since so perhaps better than that run..got 15/1 last year (from memory) 6/1 currently not very attractive..if he drifts a bit might have a saver

armchairjock

8th June 2007, 10:26 PM

would be great to see the aussies finishing 1,2,3,4 :D
could happen!

watsonnek

9th June 2007, 12:31 PM

would be great to see the aussies finishing 1,2,3,4 :D
could happen!

Would be VERY nice ;)

WAOS

10th June 2007, 12:18 PM

Benbaun (IRE) - just beat by Takeover Target in last years race..,,runner-up or winner all 4 starts since including a first-up win over 1200m at the Curragh late last month..,,has to be a top chance this year

Trainer Mark Wallace believes Benbaun to be a better horse than last year.
Contemplating running Benaun in both the King's Stand Stakes & the Golden Jubilee Stakes.

WAOS

11th June 2007, 07:49 PM

King's Stand Stakes (Group 2)
Tuesday June 19 2007
Ascot 15:05

Horse Age Weight Trainer

Baltic King 7 9-4 H Morrison
Benbaun (IRE) 6 9-4 M Wallace
Bentley Biscuit (AUS) 5 9-4 Gai Waterhouse
Biniou (IRE) 4 9-4 R M H Cowell
Bond City (IRE) 5 9-4 G R Oldroyd
Dandy Man (IRE) 4 9-4 Tracey Collins
Desert Lord 7 9-4 K A Ryan
Dhaular Dhar (IRE) 5 9-4 J S Goldie
Green Manalishi 6 9-4 K A Ryan
Intrepid Jack 5 9-4 H Morrison
Jimmy Ryan (IRE) 6 9-4 T D McCarthy
King Orchisios (IRE) 4 9-4 K A Ryan
Les Arcs (USA) 7 9-4 T J Pitt
Magnus (AUS) 5 9-4 Moody Moody
Matsunosuke 5 9-4 A B Coogan
Moorhouse Lad 4 9-4 B Smart
Moss Vale (IRE) 6 9-4 D Nicholls
Nota Bene 5 9-4 D R C Elsworth
Pivotal Point 7 9-4 P J Makin
Red Clubs (IRE) 4 9-4 B W Hills
River Falcon 7 9-4 J S Goldie
Takeover Target (AUS) 8 9-4 J Janiak
Tax Free (IRE) 5 9-4 D Nicholls
The Tatling (IRE) 10 9-4 J M Bradley
The Trader (IRE) 9 9-4 M Blanshard
Firenze 6 9-1 J R Fanshawe
Manzila (FR) 4 9-1 F Head
Miss Andretti (AUS) 5 9-1 L Freedman
Conquest (IRE) 3 8-12 W J Haggas
Contest (IRE) 3 8-12 D Wachman
Dazed And Amazed 3 8-12 R Hannon
Elhamri 3 8-12 S Kirk
Facchetti (USA) 3 8-12 A P O'Brien
Hamoody (USA) 3 8-12 P W Chapple-Hyam
Wi Dud 3 8-12 K A Ryan
Enticing (IRE) 3 8-9 W J Haggas
Theann 3 8-9 A P O'Brien

Little Imagele

12th June 2007, 10:19 PM

MISS ANDRETTI 3.80 1.70
TAKEOVER TARGET 5.50 2.12
BENTLEY BISCUIT 7.00 2.50
MAGNUS 7.50 2.62
BENBAUN 9.00 3.00
DANDY MAN 9.00 3.00
DESERT LORD 9.00 3.00
ENTICING 9.00 3.00
TAX FREE 9.00 3.00
MOSS VALE 11.00 3.50
BALTIC KING 13.00 4.00
LES ARCS 13.00 4.00
PIVOTAL POINT 15.00 4.50
RED CLUBS 17.00 5.00
THE TATLING 26.00 7.25
WI DUD 26.00 7.25
HAMOODY 35.00 9.50
RIVER FALCON 35.00 9.50
CONTEST 51.00 13.50
MOORHOUSE LAD 51.00 13.50
THE TRADER 51.00 13.50
THEANN 51.00 13.50
KING ORCHISIOS 61.00 16.00
CONQUEST 71.00 18.50
BINIOU 101.00 26.00
BOND CITY 101.00 26.00
DAZED AND AMAZED 101.00 26.00
DHAULAR DHAR 101.00 26.00
ELHAMRI 101.00 26.00
FACCHETTI 101.00 26.00
GREEN MANALISHI 101.00 26.00
INTREPID JACK 101.00 26.00
JIMMY RYAN 101.00 26.00
MANZILA 101.00 26.00
NOTA BENE 101.00 26.00
MATSUNOSUKE 201.00 51.00

Little Imagele

12th June 2007, 10:22 PM

Dandy Man a HUGE firmer! 150/1 into 8/1 :eek:

glenn101

13th June 2007, 08:32 AM

Wasnt 150/1 for long :)
Ran 4th last year behind TT. Connections still undecided if running in this race or the Golden Jubilee.

WAOS

14th June 2007, 08:05 AM

Horse Age Weight Trainer

Benbaun (IRE) 6 9-4 M Wallace
Bentley Biscuit (AUS) 6 9-4 Gai Waterhouse
Dandy Man (IRE) 4 9-4 Tracey Collins
Desert Lord 7 9-4 K A Ryan
Green Manalishi 6 9-4 K A Ryan
King Orchisios (IRE) 4 9-4 K A Ryan
Les Arcs (USA) 7 9-4 T J Pitt
Magnus (AUS) 5 9-4 Moody Moody
Matsunosuke 5 9-4 A B Coogan
Moorhouse Lad 4 9-4 B Smart
Moss Vale (IRE) 6 9-4 D Nicholls
Pivotal Point 7 9-4 P J Makin
Takeover Target (AUS) 8 9-4 J Janiak
Tax Free (IRE) 5 9-4 D Nicholls
The Tatling (IRE) 10 9-4 J M Bradley
The Trader (IRE) 9 9-4 M Blanshard
Manzila (FR) 4 9-1 F Head
Miss Andretti (AUS) 6 9-1 L Freedman
Conquest (IRE) 3 8-12 W J Haggas
Dazed And Amazed 3 8-12 R Hannon
Elhamri 3 8-12 S Kirk
Hamoody (USA) 3 8-12 P W Chapple-Hyam
Wi Dud 3 8-12 K A Ryan
Enticing (IRE) 3 8-9 W J Haggas
Theann 3 8-9 A P O'Brien
Beauty Is Truth (IRE) 3 - R Collet

goldenember

14th June 2007, 02:55 PM

Ive included last years beaten fav Moss Vale in my swag of bets
Didnt get beaten far last year & getting back to form following a spell

kiwiz

15th June 2007, 07:32 PM

All aussies gallopers reported fit & well. Trainer Joe Janiak reckons Takeover Target is in better condition that he was going into the race last year. Lee Freedman has indicated that Takeover Target is the one he is most worried about. Gai Waterhouse has stated she feels certain Bentley Biscuit will be a stronger chance in the Golden Jubilee Stakes than the King’s Stand Stakes.

sportzfan

15th June 2007, 10:07 PM

KINGS STAND STAKES (ALL IN)

Horse Win Place

MISS ANDRETTI $3.50 $1.62
TAKEOVER TARGET $5.50 $2.12
BENTLEY BISCUIT $7.00 $2.50
DANDY MAN $9.00 $3.00
ENTICING $9.00 $3.00
BENBAUN $11.00 $3.50
MAGNUS $11.00 $3.50
TAX FREE $12.00 $3.75
BEAUTY IS TRUTH $14.00 $4.25
DESERT LORD $15.00 $4.50
MOSS VALE $17.00 $5.00
LES ARCS (doubtful) $35.00 $9.50
PIVOTAL POINT $35.00 $9.50
HAMOODY $41.00 $11.00
KING ORCHISIOS $51.00 $13.50
WI DUD $51.00 $13.50
CONQUEST $61.00 $16.00
THE TATLING $71.00 $18.50
THE TRADER $71.00 $18.50
THEANN $71.00 $18.50
GREEN MANALISHI $81.00 $21.00
DAZED AND AMAZED $101.00 $26.00
ELHAMRI $101.00 $26.00
MANZILA $101.00 $26.00
MOORHOUSE LAD $101.00 $26.00
MATSUNOSUKE $251.00 $63.50

sportzfan

15th June 2007, 10:12 PM

3YO filly Enticing has remained firm in the market. Not for me but has won 4 from 6 (all over 1000m) last start winning a listed 3YO event by 5 lens.

watsonnek

16th June 2007, 10:04 PM

Rumour floating around that all is not right with Miss Andretti. Hope it's just a rumour!

beberrycareful

17th June 2007, 03:33 PM

something about a poor blood count?

beberrycareful

17th June 2007, 10:53 PM

No. (Barrier) Form Horse Age Weight Trainer Jockey

1 (5) 22153-1 Benbaun (IRE) 6 9-4 M Wallace P J Smullen
2 (3) 40-4111 Bentley Biscuit (AUS) 6 9-4 Gai Waterhouse Nash Rawiller
3 (1) 4103-12 Dandy Man (IRE) 4 9-4 Tracey Collins P Shanahan
4 (20) 22510-3 Desert Lord 7 9-4 K A Ryan N Callan
5 (21) 4580-15 Green Manalishi 6 9-4 K A Ryan T E Durcan
6 (6) 0771-11 King Orchisios (IRE) 4 9-4 K A Ryan D O'Donohoe
7 (17) 01-2341 Magnus (AUS) 5 9-4 Peter G Moody D M Oliver
8 (8) 282-578 Matsunosuke 5 9-4 A B Coogan J Murtagh
9 (18) 2-17322 Moorhouse Lad 4 9-4 B Smart T Eaves
10 (11) 35-0223 Moss Vale (IRE) 6 9-4 D Nicholls L Dettori
11 (4) 630183- Pivotal Point 7 9-4 P J Makin S Sanders
12 (14) 721-521 Takeover Target (AUS) 8 9-4 J Janiak J Ford
13 (7) 3-48111 Tax Free (IRE) 5 9-4 D Nicholls A Nicholls
14 (15) 860-315 The Tatling (IRE) 10 9-4 J M Bradley D Holland
15 (2) 0-58166 Manzila (FR) 4 9-1 F Head O Peslier
16 (19) 213-111 Miss Andretti (AUS) 6 9-1 L Freedman C Newitt
17 (9) 2116-05 Conquest (IRE) 3 8-12 W J Haggas J H Bowman
18 (16) 06-3541 Dazed And Amazed 3 8-12 R Hannon R Hughes
19 (13) 110-7 Hamoody (USA) 3 8-12 P W Chapple-Hyam J Fortune
20 (10) 617-321 Beauty Is Truth (IRE) 3 8-9 R Collet T Thulliez
21 (12) 11103-1 Enticing (IRE) 3 8-9 W J Haggas J P Spencer

iggy25

18th June 2007, 07:55 AM

Miss Andretti
Magnus
Takeover Target
Bentley Biscuit

Little Imagele

18th June 2007, 09:17 AM

Have already backed the aussies but also having a saver Dandy Man & Moss Vale

westman

18th June 2007, 11:53 AM

MISS ANDRETTI 3.20 1.55
TAKEOVER TARGET 6.50 2.37
BENTLEY BISCUIT 7.50 2.62
DANDY MAN 9.50 3.12
ENTICING 9.50 3.12
BENBAUN 12.00 3.75
MAGNUS 13.00 4.00
TAX FREE 14.00 4.25
BEAUTY IS TRUTH 15.00 4.50
DESERT LORD 16.00 4.75
MOSS VALE 21.00 6.00
PIVOTAL POINT 35.00 9.50
HAMOODY 51.00 13.50
KING ORCHISIOS 51.00 13.50
CONQUEST 71.00 18.50
THE TATLING 81.00 21.00
DAZED AND AMAZED 101.00 26.00
GREEN MANALISHI 101.00 26.00
MANZILA 151.00 38.50
MOORHOUSE LAD 151.00 38.50
MATSUNOSUKE 251.00 63.50

sportzfan

18th June 2007, 09:55 PM

something about a poor blood count?

Lee Freedman has moved to dispel rumours doing the rounds in Australia that all is not well with his star sprinter Miss Andretti.

There had been reports that the mare had a poor blood count, but Freedman has set the record straight and revealed she simply had a low potassium level - an issue which has been rectified.

headsNtails

19th June 2007, 04:14 AM

Bit of rain around Royal Ascot which will only enhance the chances of Bentley Biscuit and Magnus. Of the fancied locals Dandy Man, Benbaun and Pivotal Point have all drawn well.

goldeee

19th June 2007, 09:39 AM

12) TAKEOVER TARGET
16) MISS ANDRETTI
1) BENBAUN
2) BENTLEY BISCUIT

Horse Mad

19th June 2007, 09:49 AM

i think the journey will be too short for bentley but will be motoring home
not sure magnus this class but is racing in best form of career
andretti will run out a strong 1000 & has the pace to be up near them when it counts
ditto target
good chance tri / f4

looking at the locals the 3yos beauty is truth and enticing are reported to be well above average

go the aussies!

Horse Mad

19th June 2007, 09:51 AM

so whats your tip william?

armchairjock

19th June 2007, 10:33 AM

nearly 2.5k posts but doesn't mix much..,,doubt you'll get his thoughts ;)

armchairjock

19th June 2007, 10:39 AM

well, I like many oz punters think we can do very well, bearing in mind TTs win last year..,,looking at that race others that finished close, backing up this year are Benbaun, Pivotal point, Dandy Man & Moss Vale..,,chuck them in as lesser lights in your mutiples

armchairjock

19th June 2007, 10:43 AM

PS. doubt you'll get much if any pos input from other 'high-rollers' on this forum :) too busy laying everthing we tip LOL

watsonnek

19th June 2007, 11:25 AM

Lee Freedman has moved to dispel rumours doing the rounds in Australia that all is not well with his star sprinter Miss Andretti.

There had been reports that the mare had a poor blood count, but Freedman has set the record straight and revealed she simply had a low potassium level - an issue which has been rectified.

Still, does make you ponder a little!

sportzfan

19th June 2007, 03:14 PM

At this stage all starting & going good to firm in places

sportzfan

19th June 2007, 03:22 PM

Hi mad. Just spotted your newly created (Royal) Ascot thread. Good luck with your selections tonight / tomorrow morning. What do you fancy in the Kings Stand?.

mad

19th June 2007, 03:40 PM

Hi SPORTZFAN, and thanks for the well wishes's. I'm still debating which way to go to be honest. I'm not a big fan of the "hype" horses, but in Miss Andretti's case it not all hype as she is quite deserving of the praise she receives. That's putting me off her a little. Similarly it's difficult to judge if all the travel and strange evirons will have an effect and then you have to include the fact that she'll be up against TT and Bentley. Tough one...

Certainly open to suggestions from others. Hows about you, any thoughts?

Just watched Benbauns last run at the Curragh in Ireland. Wasn't blown away but the i-r-i-s-h conditions might have played a role. He'll prob win now, LOL.

westman

19th June 2007, 03:53 PM

Go the fighting tigress!

Raw Instinct

19th June 2007, 05:51 PM

I have been trying to work out some of the english form over the last day or so and I must say they are a very close bunch of horses in this race, The aussies might prove to good but they have to settle in and handle the conditions these pommy horses already do that I'll be back later with some tips as I simply haven't finished going over the form yet.

suds

19th June 2007, 06:10 PM

US

(12) Takeover Target
(7) Magnus
(2) Bentley Biscuit
(16) Miss Andretti

THEM

(1) Benbaun
(15) Manzila
(17) Conquest
(19) Hamoody

Raw Instinct

19th June 2007, 06:14 PM

After having one more quick look Desert Lord looks a likely leader suited by the 5 furlong trip he could prove tough to run down as he does have some decent form around this trip running a 3/4 length 2nd to La Cucaracha in August last year giving her about a kilo, she was supposed to have been one of the better sprinting mares in the UK I believe just wasn't quite right this time last year although she was only beaten 2 lengths in this race last year so this guy might be decent value at $35w and $9.50pl being offered.

Drawing a line through another of the fancies and I know conditions can skew this sort of thing a bit but Dandy Man who most seem to think is a danger to the Aussies and was beaten 1 length in this race last year, in a race in Spetember last year he beat a horse by the name of Excusez Moi by a length with a kilo weight advantage, that same horse was beaten by King Orchisios by 3 3/4 lengths in may thias year when giving him about a kilo so drawing a line through this form it would possibly suggest that King Orchisios is a chance in this currently sitting at a quote of $101w and $26pl he might be worth an e/w dabble.

I will be back later to point another one or 2 horses out i have to head out for an hour or so now though.

Once again guys I amnot trying to see these things are sure things or anything but looking through the form they atleast have a bit of a chance at odds against the aussies who are no value whatsoever, that is all I am offering here is a chance at some value.