My horse placed and I didn't get paid?

[Bon]

Just looking at R4 at Canterbury:

Currently Viewing 27 June 2007

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tbody><tr class="rowheadings"> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap" width="5">Result</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Selection</td> <td align="center">TF</td> <td align="center">SP</td> <td align="center">NSW</td> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">NSW Pl</td> <td align="center">SUP</td> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">SUP Pl</td> <td align="center">UNI</td> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">UNI Pl</td> </tr> <tr class="alt"><td colspan="10"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="10">Canterbury RACE 4 - Hyland Race Colours Hcp (C4) 1900m<!--731112 --></td></tr><tr class="alt"> <td align="center">1</td> <td>2. Mean Beans</td> <td align="center">2.30</td> <td align="center">1.85</td> <td align="center">2.00</td> <td align="center">1.30</td> <td align="center">2.20</td> <td align="center">1.60</td> <td align="center">1.90</td> <td align="center">1.10</td> </tr><tr> <td align="center">2</td> <td>3. Derivative Receipt</td> <td align="center">6.00</td> <td align="center">6.00</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">2.90</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">2.40</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">3.40</td> </tr><tr class="alt"> <td align="center">3</td> <td>1. Streamline</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">4.20</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">
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</td></tr></tbody></table>
Then I look at my graded wagers...

<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tbody><tr class="alt"><td nowrap="nowrap">26-06-2007 21:49</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">6673663</td> <td> </td> <td> Single - Canterbury 4 - 1. Streamline - $5 Win - City Best Plus</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$5.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Resulted</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$-5.00</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td nowrap="nowrap">26-06-2007 21:49</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">6673664</td> <td> </td> <td> Single - Canterbury 4 - 1. Streamline - $15 Place - City Best Price</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$15.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Resulted</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$-15.00</td></tr></tbody></table>
This doesn't make sense?

[darkydog2002]

They only pay for 1st .2nd on races with less than 8 horses.

Cheers.
darky.

[westman]

Beat me darkydog2002, yep only 7 starters!

[diogenes]

Just looking at R4 at Canterbury:

Currently Viewing 27 June 2007

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tbody><tr class="rowheadings"> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap" width="5">Result</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Selection</td> <td align="center">TF</td> <td align="center">SP</td> <td align="center">NSW</td> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">NSW Pl</td> <td align="center">SUP</td> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">SUP Pl</td> <td align="center">UNI</td> <td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">UNI Pl</td> </tr> <tr class="alt"><td colspan="10"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="10">Canterbury RACE 4 - Hyland Race Colours Hcp (C4) 1900m<!--731112 --></td></tr><tr class="alt"> <td align="center">1</td> <td>2. Mean Beans</td> <td align="center">2.30</td> <td align="center">1.85</td> <td align="center">2.00</td> <td align="center">1.30</td> <td align="center">2.20</td> <td align="center">1.60</td> <td align="center">1.90</td> <td align="center">1.10</td> </tr><tr> <td align="center">2</td> <td>3. Derivative Receipt</td> <td align="center">6.00</td> <td align="center">6.00</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">2.90</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">2.40</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">3.40</td> </tr><tr class="alt"> <td align="center">3</td> <td>1. Streamline</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">4.20</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">
</td> <td align="center">
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Then I look at my graded wagers...

<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tbody><tr class="alt"><td nowrap="nowrap">26-06-2007 21:49</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">6673663</td> <td> </td> <td> Single - Canterbury 4 - 1. Streamline - $5 Win - City Best Plus</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$5.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Resulted</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$-5.00</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td nowrap="nowrap">26-06-2007 21:49</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">6673664</td> <td> </td> <td> Single - Canterbury 4 - 1. Streamline - $15 Place - City Best Price</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$15.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Resulted</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.00</td> <td> </td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$-15.00</td></tr></tbody></table>
This doesn't make sense?Since there were fewer than 8 runners this event didn't pay 3rd placings.
<horse #4="" was="" scratched="">
You placed a wager for "Place" where places were limited to first and second only, live and learn.</horse>

[Bon]

Ah !@#$, I didn't know that. Thanks!

[Bon]

<horse #4="" was="" scratched="">it was a cheap lesson because your selection won on a heavy track!Say again? I don't think my selection won :D
</horse>

[diogenes]

Say again? I don't think my selection won :D
I never said it did, if you don't believe me read my post below....perhaps you are delusional -there is supposed to be a laughing icon here but this is something I am still learning, can't figure out how to do that_<laughing>
Welcome to the world of punters.....isn't there a particular American expression you use for such occassions....what was it now....OHHH, that's right....DUH!
As I said, Live and learn!</laughing>

[Bon]

lol, nice edit job mate ;)

But yeah, live & learn! I'm only using small money, I don't expect to have anything going that can consistently make me money until around 18 months or so - that's been my time frame with the market and mixed martial arts, but I wouldn't be surprised if it took longer with the horses.

The reason I use money instead of paper trading is because nothiing hurts more than losing money!

[crash]

Only 18mths. to start making a profit. Piece of cake.

Boy, you gotta love an optimist! lol. lol :-))

[crash]

They only pay for 1st .2nd on races with less than 8 horses.

Cheers.
darky.

There is an exception Darky:

When a race originally has 8 runners but is reduced to 7 with a late scratching. In this case a place dividend will still be paid for 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

[diogenes]

Yup. Delusional.
Welcome to the world of punters, I do believe you have found a home...lol

[Bon]

I'm not interested in losing money. If I find that's the case, then I'll pull the pin and stick to my MMA & the market. Simple as that.

[crash]

Bon,

Most of the punters here have been at it for more than 18mths. Many more than 18yrs. How many of them do you think make a profit and they [most]are by no means slow witted people? About 5% profit makers would be a big call.

They do love the game though and if you don't and aren't prepared to put in a lot of very hard yards, you have no chance whatsoever. There is no easy money to be made in Racing.

[Usurper]

With regard to the Late Scratching and No Third Div, mentioned earlier --- what defines a late scratching? Anything after the initial declarations in the morning? 5 mins before the race?

Good to know a Late Scratch will still pay 3rd Div though, useful, cheers.

[partypooper]

Crash, another anomaly, I had a bet once for a place 5 runners (i.e. 1st & 2nd) there was 2 late scratchings, my horse finished 3rd, and they ( I won't say who) counted my bet as a loser. "OFFICIALLY "TWO PLACE DIVIES WERE RETURNED"

After reading their rules, they stated that any less than 5 runners, that all bets for the place were VOID, now; as I'd had $500 for the place I pursued this rule, and was duly re-embursed the $500 PLUS a free $50 bet because of their mistake!!

I was exstactic, and it cemented my account with Sp, ah, you'll have to guess!

[crash]

Party,

The last time I saw an SP bookie [operating out of his boot] , was up in Dampier when I was working at the mines up there back in the early 70's.

Yeah, I was with that Sp.... mob for awhile. They have a bit of a bad rep. for cutting off accounts apparently.


Userper,

A late scratching is any scratching announced after official scratchings. Usually at the barrier though.

[Ade]

is there any online betting calculator that can calculate the bet cost/value of each bet?

for example, if i was to have a trifecta consisting of 2,4,3,5/4,3,5,6,7/4,3,5,6,7,8

is there a calculator I can use to help me calculate the cost?

[downbylaw]

Use a calculator duh!

[Ade]

whats the formula?

[downbylaw]

C2+b1=(d3* blah blah blah)

4 horses x 4 horses x 4 horses = 64 horses etc etc.

[Ade]

2,4,3,5/4,3,5,6,7/4,3,5,6,7,8
Under my selections, it will cost me $120, right?

4*5*6 = 120

[Ricardo8]

from where/how are you viewing these odds?

i like the style which shows all tabs in nice format across the page....where so??

[Ricardo8]

i should direct that query to bon...at beginning of the post.

[Bon]

Ricardo, sportsbet.com.au - racing results.

[syllabus23]

I'm pretty sure the moderators are cool with this one.

http://www.ntra.com/images/wageringcalculator.htm

[xptdriver]

With regard to the Late Scratching and No Third Div, mentioned earlier --- what defines a late scratching? Anything after the initial declarations in the morning? 5 mins before the race?



I think scratching time is 0830 local... anything after that is a late scratching..

As an aside.. I think betfair will pay 3 place divs provided the original field was 8 or greater... I think all the way down to 4 runners... I may be wrong, but that is how I interpret their rules..

Cheers