2007 SPRING PUNTING COMP

[Sportz]

Welcome to the Spring Punting Comp. It's sort of a mixture of the regular punting comps we used to have and the head to head comps I've run the last 2 times. I think it should be interesting.

During the months of August, September and October we will all be given a starting bank of $500 to bet with. We will be betting on any Unitab meeting covered on Saturdays and other major carnival meetings. The two people who end up with the most money in the bank at the end of each of those months will go through to the finals. So, we could have as many as 6 people in the finals or we could possibly have just two. The winner of each monthly comp will get a bonus $100 in their bank for the finals. Unlike the last couple of comps where some tipsters have been out of the running with a month still to go, this format will give everyone a chance of qualifying right up until the last Saturday before the finals. As per usual, the finals will be conducted over the four days of the Melbourne Cup carnival.

Please read the rules carefully...........

Rules:

1. Everybody starts with a bank of $500 for each month. If you lose the whole $500 before the month is up, that's it. You'll have to wait for the next month, when you will start again with a new $500 bank.

2. You do not have to bet on every betting day during the month, but you must bet at least $500 during the month to qualify.

3. The maximum amount you are allowed to bet on any betting day is $250, so that means you must bet on at least 2 days to qualify.

4. You can use any bet type which is available on Unitab, and we will be using Unitab dividends for the results.

http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/main.pl?page=/today.htm

5. The maximum amount you can spend on Win, Place & Each-Way bets is $100.

6. The maximum amount you can spend on Quinella, Exacta, Any2, Trifecta, First4, Double, Treble & All-up is $50.

Please make sure you correctly work out the cost of any multiple bets you have and don't go over the $50 maximum. On Unitab, you can use a 50c unit on multiples, and you can also use a 25c unit on First 4s.

7. If you have a scratching, please try to come back on and replace it. But if you can't, your money will simply be refunded. We will use TAB rules with regard to late scratchings in doubles and trebles.

8. Deadline for posting all of your bets is 1pm Qld time or the start time of your first bet, whichever comes earlier.




These are the betting days during August.
Saturday, August 4
Saturday, August 11
Saturday, August 18
Saturday, August 25

[crash]

I'm in Sportz.

Does any left over betting money during 1 month get added to the $500 for the next month?

[william]

Hello Sportz-put me in thanks :)

Will

[Sportz]

I'm in Sportz.

Does any left over betting money during 1 month get added to the $500 for the next month?

No. Everyone starts each month on $500. And the idea is to try to be one of the top two punters for that month to get into the finals. Once the month is finished, no matter how much you had in your bank, you start again on $500.

[Sportz]

By the way, we'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out what races Unitab are conducting First 4s on, but as a rule, it's usually the last 5 races in Bris, Syd, Melb & Adel and also one of the last 2 races in Perth.

[Usurper]

I'm in. Thanks for organising it Sportz.

[rabbitz]

i'm already in just confirming...

[Spartacus]

yep, i'm in and shall put my tips in on fri

twins' 6th birthday party on saturday so i don't think i'll be around - more like galloping around the back yard with 20 screaming kids!

[crash]

Doomben Sat.
6/1 Blood 'n' Bone 60w
7/7 Single Rose 60w
8/5 Consider Yourself 80w

[Magivor]

Caulfield

R1 N2 Pins On Parade $25 win.


Treble
6,7,8/5,7,10/4,13
50c
cost $9


Extra Double
1/1
$6



Victoria Park
R5 N9 $5 e-w

cost $10


Total cost $50.

[rabbitz]

Hello all

Gold coast R4 Trifecta
1,2
1,2,3,5,7,8
1,2,3,5,7,8
$40
Adelaide treble
Ist leg-1,4,5,8
2nd leg-3,4,7
3rd leg-1,3,5,8
$48
Sydney R4
$10 ea way No 6 Humma
Quinella No 6-Humma & No 7 Aussie Shout $5
sydney R 5
$25 WIN No 1-Gallant Tess

I like another horse but it is a dual acceptor and I don't where its running yet so if I can get on I'll put it on here as well

Total $138

[Horse Whisperer]

All Up $30 ALL WIN
BR1 1 MY LIMIT
BR4 1 OMNITRADER
BR7 4 RASMUSSEN



BR7 4 RASMUSSEN $50 W
MR5 6 MINSON $20 W
PR6 5 REAL MAK $50 W

TOTAL BETS $150
REMAINING BANK $350

[Sportz]

If it's Sharipova, she's scratched in Adelaide to run in Melbourne, Rabz.

[rabbitz]

no its not ..alright i'll tell you its Falvelons dream and its not scratched in either melb or adel yet

[Sportz]

Yeah, it's scratched in Adelaide.

[rabbitz]

So it is oh well i wont bother ..melbourne horses have a good record when they go to adelaide but out of the three i found in the dual acceptors category ..there is only one left so i'll just stick with that
cheers

Ps you are a bit quiet on sports punting comp ..dont you fancy anything this week..theres easy money to be made i reckon

[Raw Instinct]

MR 5 #2 Apache Cat $100 W
BR 7 #8 Street Smart $50 E/W

[Chuck]

ROSEHILL
Race 1: 1,2,3 Box Tri $5 = $30
Race 2: 1 Fantastic Angel win $30
Race 3: 4 Streamline win $50
Race 4: 1,3 Quinella $15
Race 5: 1,5 Quinella $15
Race 6: 8,10 $10 win = $20
Race 7: 2 Posadas win $50

CAULFIELD
Race 6: 3 Maybe Better $5 e/w

Total Cost $220
CB $280

[Spartacus]

Melbourne

R2 Royal Asscher $30 win
R4 Gina Lollawitcha $40 win
R5 Apache Cat $30 win

Trifecta R4 $30
1st - 6
2nd - 1,2,3,7,8,11
3rd - 1,2,3,7,8,11

Extra Double $10 ($20)
R4 6 Gina Lollawitcha
R5 1 Haradasun
2 Apache Cat

Total $150

[wesmip1]

Thanks for running the comp sportz.

Saturday 4th August
Belmont Race 1 : Rocking the Blues for a WIN * $50
Belmont Race 1 : Rocking the Blues for a PLACE * $100
Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a WIN * $50
Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a PLACE * $100

Good Luck.

[Chuck]

Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a WIN * $50
Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a PLACE * $100


hope hes not on drugs :D

[Sportz]

wesmip1,

Sorry mate. You're only allowed to bet a total of $250 on any one betting day. You've got $300 there.

[Magivor]

Caulfield

R1 N2 Pins On Parade $75 win.


Treble
6,7,8/5,7,10/4,13
50c
cost $9


Extra Double
1/1
$6



Victoria Park
R5 N9 $5 e-w

cost $10


Total cost $100

hi sportz,
just note ive changed r1 n2 at melb to $75 not $25 taking total amount spent too $100
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[syllabus23]

Perth Race2 #1 Universal Prince $100 Win

Melbourne Race8 #4 Spielmaster $100 Win

Good luck all....

[feather]

TRIFECTAS
AR 7 - 4/5/7/8/3
AR 8 - 3/7/2/5/12

50c - $30.00 each

Kg. R2-4 UNTAMED $50 win
V.Pk R3-2 TOSSTESTAROAN $50 win

Spent: $160.00

[Usurper]

Doomben race 7, QN #4 / #9 for $20

Gold Coast ALL UP Race 4 #2 -> Race 6 #1 -> Race 7 #1 (W/W/W) for $20

Rosehill race 4, WIN #3 for $20

Rosehill race 4, Boxed Trifecta #3/#4/#8 for $30 (5x div)

Rosehill ALL UP Race 2 #1 -> Race 7 #2 -> Race 8 #5 (W/W/W) for $20

Caulfield ALL UP Race 1 #1 -> Race 2 #3 -> Race 5 #1 (W/W/W) for $20

Belmont ALL UP Race 3 #3 -> Race 6 #4 -> Race 8 #12 (W/W/W) for $20


Total $150.00

[maverick1993]

Br 3 No5 Majorca $100 win

br 3 Trifecta 3 / 2,1 x 10 = $20
br treble 1,4 / 1,7,9 / 1,3,4 x 1 = $18
br7 1st4 1,4 / 1,4,3 / 1,4,3,2 / 1,4,3,2,5 X 50 = $8
br6 1st4 7,8 / 1,7,8 / 1,7,8,3 / 1,7,8,2,3 x .25 =$4
total $50

Sr7 no 7 Dance the Waves $25 e/w
Sr8 no2 Exinite $50 win

[longshot]

BR 5 TRI -6/1,2,3,4,10,13/1,2,3,4,10,,13 - 50c UNIT TOTAL $45

MR $50 ALL UP BET R1 H1 ALL UP R3 H5 TOTAL $50
SR R1 H3 $50 WIN TOTAL $50

TOTAL $145

[Goldcoaster]

SR5-10 Dorothy Evelyn
SR6-8 November Flight
SR8-1 Newton's Rings

MR6-13 Four Poster


All $50 win


Thanks
Sportz

[Panther]

All for $50 win
AR 5 Tab 4 Storm Fury
BR 7 Tab 4 Rasmussen
MR 5 Tab 7 Apaiser
SR 7 Tab 11 Fashions Afield
WR 3 Tab 3 Caspar Cowboy

[wesmip1]

Thanks for running the comp sportz.

Saturday 4th August
Belmont Race 1 : Rocking the Blues for a WIN * $50
Belmont Race 1 : Rocking the Blues for a PLACE * $100
Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a WIN * $50
Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a PLACE * $100

Good Luck.
Sportz,

Sorry missed the $250 in a day bit. Here are the revised bets :


Saturday 4th August
Belmont Race 1 : Rocking the Blues for a WIN * $25
Belmont Race 1 : Rocking the Blues for a PLACE * $100
Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a WIN * $25
Doomben Race 7 : Rasmussen for a PLACE * $100

[Sportz]

SR7 - 11 FASHIONS AFIELD $50 WIN
SR7 - 2 POSADAS $40 WIN
SR7 - TRIFECTA - 2,7,11 / 2,7,8,10,11,12 / 2,7,8,10,11,12 (X 50C = $30.00)
SR7 - FIRST4 - 2,11 / 2,7,8,10,11,12 / 2,7,8,10,11,12 / 2,7,8,10,11,12 (X 25C = $30.00)

$150 SPENT

[Goldcoaster]

SR5-10 Dorothy Evelyn
SR6-8 November Flight
SR8-1 Newton's Rings

MR6-13 Four Poster


All $50 win


Thanks
Sportz


four poster was a late scratching. so only spent $150

[syllabus23]

My Belmont horse scratched so .........

Trifecta Doomben R8 5,6,9/1,2,5,6,9,10/1,2,5,6,9,10 $1 = $60

ty.

[Sportz]

Ahhh, sorry mate, the maximum amount you can spend on exotic bets like trifectas is $60, so I'll put that down as a 50cent bet for you ($30).

[Sportz]

four poster was a late scratching. so only spent $150

If a horse is a late scratching and you can't come back on and replace it, then it's still counted as a bet. You just get your money back.

[Sportz]

br6 1st4 7,8 / 1,7,8 / 1,7,8,3 / 1,7,8,2,3 x .25 =$4


I assume the 8 was actually supposed to be 9 here, but in any case, you didn't have the 1 to win.

[Sportz]

Well done Crash. 2 good winners. Still a few results to go, but I think it's probably safe to say that you'll be in front.

[Sportz]

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$996.00 . crash . ($200.00)
$836.85 . Syllabus23 . ($130.00)
$722.50 . Magivor . ($100.00)
$708.30 . Horse Whisperer . ($150.00)
$604.30 . Maverick1993 . ($250.00)
$540.00 . Raw Instinct . ($200.00)
$501.90 . feather . ($160.00)
$488.00 . Spartacus . ($150.00)
$456.00 . Usurper . ($150.00)
$430.00 . Panther . ($250.00)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$395.00 . Chuck . ($220.00)
$386.00 . Rabbitz ($138.00)
$355.00 . Longshot . ($145.00)
$350.00 . Goldcoaster . ($200.00)
$350.00 . Sportz . ($150.00)

What a wonderful start from me. :o

[maverick1993]

I assume the 8 was actually supposed to be 9 here, but in any case, you didn't have the 1 to win.

sorry sportz,,was in hurry as i was just going out the door,,,,stuffed that 3rd race trifecta aswell...lucky for me Rule By Right stuffed it..

[Magivor]

hi sportz,

i changed my bets this morning.... i dont know if it was allowed if it was...
my outlay was $100

and my return was
75x4.3
= $322.50

+$222.50 for the day...

[Sportz]

i changed my bets this morning.... i dont know if it was allowed if it was...
my outlay was $100


Yeah, that was okay. Good move too. You're coming 3rd.

[Magivor]

oh gawd, sorry im tired, i thought you had me on +100 for the day.... forgive me.

[crash]

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$996.00 . crash . ($200.00)
$836.85 . Syllabus23 . ($130.00)
$722.50 . Magivor . ($100.00)
$708.30 . Horse Whisperer . ($150.00)
$604.30 . Maverick1993 . ($250.00)
$540.00 . Raw Instinct . ($200.00)
$501.90 . feather . ($160.00)
$488.00 . Spartacus . ($150.00)
$456.00 . Usurper . ($150.00)
$430.00 . Panther . ($250.00)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$395.00 . Chuck . ($220.00)
$386.00 . Rabbitz ($138.00)
$355.00 . Longshot . ($145.00)
$350.00 . Goldcoaster . ($200.00)
$350.00 . Sportz . ($150.00)

What a wonderful start from me. :o

[even more wonderful for me!]

It would have been easy to say nothing [ except thanks for the mistake:-)) ], but I think you might have gone a bit astray in your scoring Sportz.
You might want to check everything from yesterday, as you may have been a bit tired or something. Both mine and Syllabus23 scores both seem a bit on the high side! I haven't checked any of the others but you might want to if these 2 are wrong:

UniTab prices:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crash
Doomben
6/1 Blood 'n' Bone 60w x 6w = 360
7/7 Single Rose 60w [2nd] nil
8/5 Consider Yourself 80w x 4.20w = 336
Total win $696 / Amount spent = ($200)

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Syllabus23
Perth Race2 #1 Universal Prince $100 Win [scr.]
Melbourne Race8 #4 Spielmaster $100 Win x 3.60 = 360w

My Belmont horse scratched so .........
Trifecta Doomben R8 5,6,9/1,2,5,6,9,10/1,2,5,6,9,10 $1 = $60 x 1=213.70w
Total win = $573.70 Amount spent = ($160)
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[rabbitz]

Yeah me too Sportz where did i win $24..i outlayed $138 and that leaves me with $362

[crash]

Also:

The rules say max. spent on exotics is $50. Syllabus23's TRI cost $60 for a $1 unit, meaning it should be read as a 50c unit ($30 cost], which would win him $106.80 [rounded down from 106.85], not 213.70. His totals would be: Total win = $466.80 Spent $130.


Sportz,
Maybe you are adding the money we have left to bet with for the month to what we win? If so, my score would be correct but Syllabus would still be out I think.

I thought we just had $500 for the month to bet with. There was nothing in the rules about having our winnings to bet with on top of our monthly bet amount [?]

[Chuck]

Crash:
Amount Spent $200
Amount Won $696
Profit: $496

$500 + $496 = $996

where is the problem???

[Sportz]

Ahhh yeah, what Chuck said. You start with a bank of $500 and then you try to build on that. In your case Crash, you started with $500, then spent $200 and won $696. ($500 - $200 + $696 = $996) Can't see the problem.

And if you read back over the previous posts, you'll see that I told Syllabus23 about the maximum bet for trifectas and I DID change it to a 50c bet. And Rabbitz, you had a couple of scratchings in your Adelaide trouble, so you were refunded $24.

Guys, I've done this sort of thing a bit now, so I sort of know what I'm doing. ;) But I'm certainly not immune to making mistakes, so if you do have any doubts about the scoring, feel free to raise them.

[crash]

I see your point Chuck and nothing wrong with it if we want to go by 'assumed' rules, rather that what the rules say.

The rules state we get $500 to bet with a month and that's all they say. The rules didn't mention anything about the scoring method except Unitab would be used. Does this mean that next week I have $996 to bet from, $796 or $300?


That's why my posts, these points need to be clarified and I don't want to be accepting a score I didn't deserve if it was a mistake.

[crash]

We posted at the same time Sportz.

Thanks for the clarification. So next week do I have $996 to bet from, $796 or $300?

[Sportz]

During the months of August, September and October we will all be given a starting bank of $500 to bet with. We will be betting on any Unitab meeting covered on Saturdays and other major carnival meetings. The two people who end up with the most money in the bank at the end of each of those months will go through to the finals.

Seems reasonably clear to me.

[rabbitz]

Ah the ol' scratching angle i see,cheers for that

[crash]

Okie dokie Sportz. I get the big picture.

Thanks.

[Sportz]

Thanks for the clarification. So next week do I have $996 to bet from, $796 or $300?

Well, you have $996 to bet from, BUT you can still only bet a maximum of $250. If you bet the maximum amount of $250 on each of the next 3 weeks and don't win a cent, you will end up the month on $216.


I think the basic rules are pretty clear, but I'll state them again for everyone.

You get a starting bank of $500 and try to build on that.
You must bet at least $500 during the month but you can bet more.
If your bank drops down to $0 before the month is up, you're out and have to wait for the next month.
You can only bet a maximum of $250 on any betting day.
You can spend a maximum of $100 on Win/Place bets.
You can spend a maximum of $50 on other bets.

[Sportz]

Ah the ol' scratching angle i see,cheers for that

And you had a late scratching in the first leg, so you went on to the sub-favourite which was a winner. If you had won the last leg you would have won the treble.

[Sportz]

You can spend a maximum of $100 on Win/Place bets.


By the way, wesmip1 did something which was sort of against the intended principle of this rule, but I decided to allow it.

[Spartacus]

sportz, correct me if i'm wrong but i believe i'm owed refund of $18 as two of my runners were scratched from my trifecta.

raw, i see our love of the ol' apache knows no bounds
he did look a good thing didn't he?

[Raw Instinct]

He was the best certainty ever yesterday mate was never going to lose that race I can't believe what they bet about Haradasun just ridiculos.

[Sportz]

Yeah, you're right Spartacus. Thanks for that.

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$996.00 . crash . ($200.00)
$836.85 . Syllabus23 . ($130.00)
$722.50 . Magivor . ($100.00)
$708.30 . Horse Whisperer . ($150.00)
$604.30 . Maverick1993 . ($250.00)
$540.00 . Raw Instinct . ($200.00)
$506.00 . Spartacus . ($150.00)
$501.90 . feather . ($160.00)
$456.00 . Usurper . ($150.00)
$430.00 . Panther . ($250.00)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$395.00 . Chuck . ($220.00)
$386.00 . Rabbitz ($138.00)
$355.00 . Longshot . ($145.00)
$350.00 . Goldcoaster . ($200.00)
$350.00 . Sportz . ($150.00)

[Sportz]

Feel free to start posting bets for tomorrow's races. And please remember the rules.

You get a starting bank of $500 and try to build on that.
You must bet at least $500 during the month but you can bet more.
If your bank drops down to $0 before the month is up, you're out and have to wait for the next month.
You can only bet a maximum of $250 on any betting day.
You can spend a maximum of $100 on Win/Place bets.
You can spend a maximum of $50 on other bets.



It looks like Unitab are now having First 4s on every single race in Bris, Syd, Melb and Adel on a Saturday as well as the last race in Perth.

[Magivor]

MV

R1 N5 Brazen Hussey $25 win.
R2 N1 Kinugawa $25 win

All Up
WIN R1 N5 into R2 N1 $25

R1 Trifecta 2,5/1,2,3,4,5,6/1,2,3,4,5,6
50c
cost $20

Treble
2,3,5/1,9,13/3,5
50c
$9

5/1,5,9,13/3,5
$1
$8

Daily Double
1,5,9,13/2,3,5,6,8
50c
$10


total outlay
$122.

[longshot]

BR5 H17 SNEAKY LONG $20 WIN $30 PLACE TOTAL $50 http://forums.ozmium.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif
BR5 TRIF BOX 3,5,7,10,17 $1 TOTAL $60

TOTAL BETS $110

[Horse Whisperer]

OB $708.30

ALL UP X $30
BR1 4 YASS RIVER WIN
BR3 7 TOUR GUIDE WIN
BR6 3 DARING FORTUNE WIN

BR3 TOUR GUIDE $50 WIN
BR7 LOCAL RULES $25 E/W

TOTAL BETS $130
CB $578.30

[rabbitz]

ob 386

gold coast r2 no 1 equal red 10x10

eagle farm r7 no 5 kendrick lad 10x10

randwick r8no4 let me adam 10x10

moonee valley r 5 no 1 ista kareem 10x10

adelaide r 2 no 2 silent action 10 x 10

cb 286

[Sportz]

BR5 H17 SNEAKY LONG $20 WIN $30 PLACE TOTAL $50 http://forums.ozmium.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif
BR5 TRIF BOX 3,5,7,10,17 $1 TOTAL $60

TOTAL BETS $110

Sorry mate. You're not allowed to spend more than $50 on a trifecta. So that'll have to be for 50c.

[syllabus23]

M/V Race4 #1 Empire Dancer $100 win

R/W Race5 #3 Sliding Cube $100 win

M/V Race3 7,9,10,11/7,9,10,11/1,4,7,9,10,11,12. x50c for $30

Total $230

Good luck all.

[Raw Instinct]

BR 7 #2 Jack and Ice $50 win
BR 8 #4 Time and Dandy $50 win
SR 5 #7 Moonboat $50 win

Melbourne Treble
3,5,6/ 1,5,10,11/ 2,3 .50c unit= $12

Sydney Treble
5,8/ 2,3,7,9,10,11/ 5,7 .50c unit= $12

Brisbane Treble
5,9/ 3/ 2,10,11 $2.00 unit = $12

$186 cost all up

[Usurper]

Morphettville ALL UP
Race 4 #2 WIN -> Race 5 #3 WIN -> Race 6 #1 PLACE -> Race 7 #7 PLACE [ $20 ]

Eagle Farm race 3 #7 WIN [ $50]
Eagle Farm race 3 #2 PLACE [ $50 ]

Belmont race 6 #8 WIN [ $50 ]

Belmont ALL UP
Race 1 #1 PLACE -> Race 6 #8 PLACE -> Race 7 #8 PLACE [ $30 ]

Total outlay: $200

Cheers.

[Magivor]

hey sportz,
a few scratchings so these are my updated bets. :)
MV

R1 N5 Brazen Hussey $25 win.
R2 N1 Kinugawa $25 win

All Up
WIN R1 N5 into R2 N1 $25

R1 Trifecta 2,5/1,2,3,4,5,6/1,2,3,4,5,6
50c
cost $20

Treble
2,3,5/1,3,5,11/3,5
50c
$12

5/1,3,5,11/3,5
$1
$8

Daily Double
1,3,5,11/2,3,5,6,8
50c
$10


total outlay
$125.
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[crash]

OK, I'm ready to be knoked off the top of the ladder. Catch me if you can:-))

Eagle Farm
All up r1/4 x r2/3 x r3/7 $20
Box exacta r7/11 x 14 $5 [2.5 units]
r7/11 Count Henry $30w
r7/14 Industrial Fan $5w x $15p

Moonee Valley
Box Exacta r5/3 x11 $5 [2.5 units]
r5/3 Baughurst $50w
r7/3 Haddle McDaddle $50w
r8/3 Prima Nocte $50w

Randwick (2x6x6] r8 Tri:
4,10 x 4,5,6,7,8,10 x 4,5,6,7,8,10 $20 (50c unit)

Total $250

Have a good one!

[maverick1993]

Sr7 no1 Blessus $200 win
Ar7 no2 Sassbee $50win

[Goldcoaster]

SR4-2 Craiglea Charm
SR-2 Dante's Paradiso
SR8-7 Craiglea Emma
All $25 win & place
Total $150

[feather]

TRIFECTA
AR4 - 1-2-3-7-8- @ 1/2 $30.00

WIN BETS @ $35 each

SR1-3 OCCURRENCE
SR3-2 HUMMA
SR8-4 LET ME ADAM
GC1-2 LOADED TYCOON
BR3-1 TOUR GUIDE
AR4-2 MADAM LUSH

spend $240.00

[wise one]

If I'm not too late to join in for the month

BR 3 # 7 Tour Guide
BR 7 # 5 October Sky
SR 2 # 2 Ausbred King
SR 3 # 2 Humma
SR 6 # 6 Go Cart

all $50 Win

Wise One

[Panther]

AR 7 Tab 7 Zupaone--$50 win
WR 2 Tab 4 Storm Inthe North--$50 win
WR 4 Tab 4 Install--$50 win
WR 5 Tab 7 My Empire--$50 win

[Raw Instinct]

Give me $50 win on #2 Murjana in race 1 in melbourne to if it's not to late

[Spartacus]

OB $506

MV
R5 ISTA KAREEM $50 WIN
ALL UP R5#1/R6#1 $20
R6 $2 BOX TRI 1,5,7 $12
RAND
R8 $2 BOX TRI 2,3,4,6 - $48
R8 LET ME ADAM $50 WIN

CHELT
R7 $2 BOX TRI 1,5,7,12 - $48

EAGLE FARM
R7 50C BOX TRI 1,3,5,10 - $12


TOTAL: $240

CB $266

[Sportz]

SR5-7 Moonboat $10 Win
MR3-12 Airstream $30 Win
BR2-3 Grecolo $50 Win
BR3-7 Tour Guide $50 Win
BR4-1 Sashenka $30 Win
BR6-3 Daring Fortune $50 Win
PR8-1 Go The Surt $30 Win

Amount spent $250

[Spartacus]

CHELT
R7 $2 BOX TRI 1,5,7,12 - $48


of course i meant MORPH here!

[Sportz]

Sr7 no1 Blessus $200 win
Ar7 no2 Sassbee $50win

Sorry Mav, but you can't have a $200 Win bet. The maximum win bet you can have is $100. I'll put you down for $100 instead.

[Spartacus]

letter of intent just cost me $500 - dang it

[crash]

I backed it for the win with real money but not e/w!

[Spartacus]

adam and the tri cost me with real $

[Sportz]

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$979.00 . crash . ($450.00)
$916.85 . Syllabus23 . ($360.00)
$648.30 . Horse Whisperer . ($280.00)
$610.00 . Panther . ($450.00)
$597.50 . Magivor . ($225.00)
$510.00 . Spartacus . ($390.00)
$454.30 . Maverick1993 . ($400.00)
$450.90 . feather . ($400.00)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$396.00 . Usurper . ($350.00)
$395.00 . Chuck . ($220.00)
$381.00 . Rabbitz ($238.00)
$320.00 . Wise One . ($250.00)
$304.00 . Raw Instinct . ($436.00)
$275.00 . Longshot . ($225.00)
$200.00 . Goldcoaster . ($350.00)
$170.00 . Sportz . ($400.00)

Hmmm, okay. So I'm going to have to do something magical with $170.

No worries. :D

[crash]

Syllabus23.

You were very unlucky with your Tri. there mate at Moonee Valley r3. I thought you would snag it for sure!

Leaving out that Murphy kid from possible results in a Tri. though is [in hindsight] a big mistake, even when he's on a longshot roughy. He's turning into a top rider and ironically was on my only winning bet Haddle Mc Daddle, on whom he gave the field a riding and galloping lesson winning by 5 lengths.

[syllabus23]

Hmmm you are right Crash,he is developing into thoughtful hoop,he certainly has plenty of natural ability too.He steered Haddle Mc Daddle to a good win.

Yesterday looked a pretty straightforward day,but somehow it seldom works out to be that way.

I used to be a golfer and I could never figure out why I played like Kelvin Von Sprogg on Saturday and Koko the clown on Sunday.I think this when "you're hot you're hot and when you're not you're not" factor is the most difficult part of horseracing.Impossible to quantify.

We all keep trying.My first winner was a horse called "Royal Colleen" ridden by Merv Maynard,I was in the St Ledger at Broadmeadow with my Grandfather around 1954.Sometimes I wish the damn thing had lost,cause I've been hooked ever since.

[crash]

Yesterday looked a pretty straightforward day,but somehow it seldom works out to be that way.

I used to be a golfer and I could never figure out why I played like Kelvin Von Sprogg on Saturday and Koko the clown on Sunday.I think this when "you're hot you're hot and when you're not you're not" factor is the most difficult part of horseracing.Impossible to quantify.



Yep.

As the well known you know who would say: 'Pharlap one day, radish the next'!

Bit of that in all of us.

[Sportz]

Okay, feel free to start posting tips for tomorrow. Remember you can bet a maximum of $250, but not if you don't have that much left in the bank. Which is the case with Goldcoaster and myself. I've only got $170, so I'm going to be looking out for miracle.

[Chuck]

sr6 box tri 1,2,3,6 $1 = $24

sr5-5 $25 ew

sr3-2 $15 ew

sr4-7 $30 win

mr 7-2 $15 ew

[Horse Whisperer]

ALL UP $50 BRISBANE
R1 2 YASS RIVER WIN
R3 1 MY SON DAY WIN
R5 6 MAJORCA PLACE
R7 6 SINGLE ROSE PLACE

BR3 MY SON DAY $50 WIN

SR5 GERMAN CHOCOLATE $25 E/W
SR6 RAPID JACKO $25 E/W

OB $648.30
BETS $150
CB $498.30

[Horse Whisperer]

Sorry should be $200 in bets so total left is $448.30.

Though im sure you would have picked that up sportz ;)

[Magivor]

OB: $597.50

Caulfield:
r2 n8 Starzando $10 win
r3 n4 Diplomatic Force $5e-w
r7 n16 Mondano $5e-w
cost: $30

Xtra Double:
r3 n2,4
into
r4 n3,6
$2
cost: $8

Treble
r5 n4,7,12
into
r6 n1,2,6
into
r7 n11,15,16
50c
cost: $14.50

First Fours:

r3
1,2,4 to win
1,2,4 for second
1,2,3,4,6,8 for third
1,2,3,4,6,8 for fourth
50c
cost: $36

r4
6 to win
3 for second
1,2,4,9 for third
1,2,4,9 for fourth
50c
cost: $6

r6
2 to win
1,6 for second
1,3,6 for third
1,3,4,5,6,7 for fourth.
50c
cost: $8
total $102.50

CB: $495

:) thanks.

[Sportz]

Treble
r5 n4,7,12
into
r6 n1,2,6
into
r7 n11,15,16
50c
cost: $14.50


Actually, that's $13.50.

[rabbitz]

ob 381

mr treble
1st-4,5,7,8,10,11
2nd-1,2,6
3rd-3,8,11,13,16
50c=$45

sr5 first four
1st-4,5,8
2nd-1,4,5,8
3rd-1,2,3,4,5,8
4th-1,2,3,4,5,8

25c=$27

kilmore
r 4-10=$25x$25
r 7-10=$25x$25

$172

cb $209

[Magivor]

hahah, thanks sportz, you've shown up my poor maths..


CB: $496.

[crash]

Rosehill
1/2 Only He Knows 50w
6/9 Turffontein 30w
Tri. r6/2,4,8,9x2,4,8,9,11x2,4,8,9,11 $48 [1unit]
Caulfield
5/2 Purde 50w
6/3 Minson 20w
Morphettville
1/1 Victory Chant 50w

total $248

[longshot]

SYD

R 8 H2 NEWTON RINGS $50 E/W TOTAL $100

MELB
R 7 H16 MONDANO $50 E/W TOTAL $100

TOTAL ALL UP $200

[maverick1993]

Br7 no3 Foolish $250 win

[Spartacus]

ob $510

Caul
R2#8 Starzando $10 e/w
R7 #11 Stanzout $30 e/w
r8 #6 Devil Moon $10 e/w

Tri
R2 #8-2,3,4,6,10/2,3,4,6,10 for 50c ($10)
R7 #11-4,7,8,12,15/4,7,8,12,15 for $1 ($20)
R8 #1-3,6,9,10,12/3,6,9,10,12 for 50c ($10)

DD
R6 1,2,6 - R7 4,7,8,11,12,15 for $1 ($18)

Rosehill
R2 #3 Tokyo Express $10 e/w
R6#3 Vecchia Roma $30 e/w

Tri
R6 #3 - 2,5,6,7,8/2,5,6,7,8 for 50c ($10)

total $248

cb $262

[Usurper]

Caulfield race 6, #6 WIN [ $100 ]

Belmont race 6, #7 PLACE [ $30 ]

Belmont ALL UP Race 2 #5 WIN -> Race 3 #1 WIN -> Race 8 #9 WIN [ $20 ]

Rosehill ALL UP Race 1 #2 PLACE -> Race 4 #8 PLACE -> Race 5 #1 PLACE -> Race 7 #4 PLACE [ $20 ]

Gold Coast race 6, #3 WIN [ $50 ]

Total: $220

[Goldcoaster]

SR3-1 November Flight
SR5-4 German Chocolate

MR3-4 Diplomatic Force

BR4-3 Eightofus

All $50 Win each

[feather]

er2-1 runatun
mr6-6 marasco
sr5-5 fashion afield

50 each win

Tri sr5...4-5-1-7-8 box half $30.00

[wise one]

BR 3 # 5 Bold Reason
BR 6 # 2 Onedin Line
BR 7 # 5 Blood 'n' Bone
SR 6 # 9 Turffontein
SR 7 # 10 Priceless Lad

$50 win on all

Wise one

[Sportz]

SR5-4 German Chocolate $50 Win
SR6-8 El Cambio $50 Win
MR4-9 Bel Mer $50 Win

[Horse Whisperer]

Br7 no3 Foolish $250 win

mav i just noticed sportz hadnt said anything, i'm pretty sure you can only put $100 on 1 horse

[Sportz]

Yeah, sorry. Haven't had a look at everyone's bets yet. You CAN only have a maximum win bet of $100, Mav.

[Usurper]

You're killing it today Sportz.

[Sportz]

Yeah!!! This is more like it. Who knows. I could almost go from last to first in one day!!! :eek:

[Sportz]

SR5-4 German Chocolate $50 Win
SR6-8 El Cambio $50 Win
MR4-9 Bel Mer $50 Win

A mixture of good and bad news here. 3 great winners for this comp and I've backed them all. :D

But have a guess which 3 horses I originally chose for the Fantasy Racing comp before changing my mind and replacing them all! Doh!

[crash]

You must have got out of the right side of the bed today Sportz. $860w so well done!

I did no good on my win bets but snagged the 1 unit Tri for 144.60 which should put you 5.40 behind me I think. I don't know how everyone else went though, so I might have easily lost my top spot.

[Raw Instinct]

dirty I didn't get a chance to put my tips in this week was liking Aapche Cat and Schrewd Rhythm on he day to go with Poyim e/w turned into a pretty good day for me should have been on here but ohwell.

[Sportz]

Raw

At least with this comp, while you've certainly missed out on a couple of winners there, you don't actually get penalised for missing a week. So you can have another go next Saturday.

[Sportz]

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$916.85 . Syllabus23 . ($360.00)
$875.60 . crash
$860.00 . Sportz
$680.80 . Horse Whisperer . ($480.00)
$610.00 . Panther . ($450.00)
$581.50 . feather
$550.00 . Wise One
$505.50 . Magivor . ($326.50)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$377.80 . Spartacus
$354.30 . Maverick1993
$304.00 . Raw Instinct . ($436.00)
$271.00 . Chuck . ($384.00)
$245.00 . Goldcoaster
$241.50 . Rabbitz ($410.00)
$176.00 . Usurper
$75.00 . Longshot . ($425.00)

[Raw Instinct]

Nice day Sportz hope you had some real stuff on them.

[syllabus23]

Sorry Sportz,,,I had to go to Qld (Kooralbyn) for a couple of days and didn't post my selections.Though it looks like it was a good tactic.

Will resume next weekend.

[crash]

Well done mate. No bets ..a clever move:-))

[syllabus23]

Probably my one and only week in that position.

Kooralbyn is so dry that it looks like a moonscape.

Though when I left at dawn this morning there was light rain falling.

[Sportz]

Well done mate. No bets ..a clever move:-))

Won't be a clever move if he does it next week though. ;)

There is no need to bet every week. As long as you bet the required $500 for the month, that's all that matters.

[Usurper]

I just hope I can run to the front on the home stretch, but I don't think my jockey is doing a good job.

[Sportz]

Well, I was in basically the same position as you last week, so it IS possible.

[Sportz]

Okay, feel free to start posting tips for this week.

And remember that this Saturday is the last betting day of the month. To qualify, you must have bet at least $500 during the month, and at the moment, there are 9 people who haven't bet the required amount yet.

After Saturday, the two highest scorers (of those who've bet at least $500) will win through to the finals.

[rabbitz]

0B 241

MOONEY VALLEY

R2-husson lightning $50W
R4-Brazen hussey $20x20
R5-Sunshine Power $10x10
-Miss evergreen 10x10
R6-Here de angels $20WIN
R8-Eclair Passion $30W

Treble
5-3,6,8,13,14
6-1,5,6
7-1,4,6,9
50c=$30

SYDNEY

R1-Single malt $2x3
R2-Strategic Partner $2x$3
R4-Laras Way $5W
R6-King of the skies $2x3
R7-Under command $2x3
R9-Mystery city $6WIN

cb 50c:D

[rabbitz]

Actually Sportz change that last bet to $6 WIN Vionneto
Ta

[Horse Whisperer]

OB $680.80

BR4 MASTER DENIS $100 W
SR6 RAPID JACKO $100 W

BR ALLUP $50
R1 NELLIE GOT THERE PL
R4 MASTER DENIS W
R5 MOTIVATE PL
R8 ORPEN ROSE PL

TOTAL BETS $250

CB $430.80

[syllabus23]

Looks like we are heading for a disaster in Sydney.

Chelt Race5 #6 Miss Finland $100 win

Chelt Race8 #7 Victory Chant $100 win

Chelt Race7 3,7,8,9-- 3,7,8,9-- 3,7,8,9,2,10,11 Trifecta for $30

Total Bets $230.

Good luck all.

[Magivor]

MELBOURNE
d/d
1,6/2,6,9,11
for $3

cost $24

R6
N1 Wonderful World $50e-w
Trifecta.
1/6/2,3,4,5,7,8,9
6/1/2,3,4,5,7,8,9
each for $1
all up $114


R2
N3 Pins On Parade $100 win
Trifecta
3/2,4,5,7/2,4,5,7
for $1
cost $122

:)

[rabbitz]

Actually Sportz change that last bet to $6 WIN Vionneto
Ta
Since there is no racing in NSW i have a revised list of bets coming soon

[Sportz]

Horse Whisperer,

Could you possibly make some new selections? The ones you've posted are all in Bris and Syd.

[rabbitz]

so to make up for sydney ,i have ar 6 tivation 2x3
and another for the valley
r7 no 9 kerdem $13x$13=$26
this makes up for the $31 i had on Sydney races
Cheers

[Sportz]

No worries.

[rabbitz]

so to make up for sydney ,i have ar 6 tivation 2x3
and another for the valley
r7 no 9 kerdem $13x$13=$26
this makes up for the $31 i had on Sydney races
Cheers
now sushine power is scratched so now add another $20 to kerdem ie 23x23
cheers

ps if racing shuts down in australia should we put all our bets on nz races :eek:

[Spartacus]

$50 all-up

mv
spanish symbol
royal asscher
gold edition

$100 win
spanish symbol

$100 place
temple hills

total $250

hope they make the right decision at mv
this flu thing could bring curtains to the spring!

[crash]

Moonee Valley
r5/16 Mc Fly 50 e/w
r7/13 Prospect 30w 50p

Tri. r5: 3,5,10 x 1,3,5,7,10 x 1,3,5,7,10 [$36 / 1 unit]

Warracknabeal
r7/2 Red Power $30w

total $246




Good luck everyone!

[Usurper]

Moonee Valley race 6, #5 [$70 win]
Belmont race 1, #2 [$30 win]
Belmont race 8, #2 [$36 win]
Belmont race 9, #11 [$40 win]

Remaining: $0

[Chuck]

MV
race 1: 1,3 quinella $47
race 3: 1 $100 win
Race 5: tri, 1,3,6,8 = $24
Race 8: 8 $100 win

all out

[Raw Instinct]

MR 2 #7 Pillar of Hercules $20 W
MR 5 #4 Gawne $20 E/W
MR 7 #5 Utility $100 W
AR 2 #1 Elegant Eagle $20 W
AR 3 #2 Giant Killer $30 W
AR 4 #6 Oro Rojo $20 W

[Panther]

WR 1 Tab 1 Jestatune--$50 win
WR 2 Tab 6 Ravinia--$50 win
WR 4 Tab 4 Flirtson--$50 win
WR 9 Tab 7 Rich Ken--$50 win

[Goldcoaster]

MR2-3 $75 win
MR5-3 $100 win
MR8-8 $70 win

[Sportz]

Okay, well, Melbourne and Adelaide are off now as well.

So, I've decided that I'm going to call off this competition for today.

They're still racing at Belmont, but I'm not going to make people tip horses in Perth when they may not have a clue about the form over there. So, until further notice, I'm going to postpone the final week of the first monthly comp.

Apologies to anybody who HAS tipped in Perth and gets a winner. It won't count. Sorry.

[Sportz]

Apologies to anybody who HAS tipped in Perth and gets a winner. It won't count. Sorry.

That's no longer a problem!

What a day. Looks like a Saturday with basically no racing!!! :eek:

[crash]

OK, no racing today [bad luck] including Belmont. Does that mean we go through to the finals Sportz?

$916.85 . Syllabus23 .
$875.60 . crash

[Sportz]

No, it means that the last week of this month's comp is simply postponed. I'm not sure when this whole thing is going to get sorted out, but we'll finish the August comp then, and work out the rest from there.

After all, several people (including the leader) hadn't bet the required $500 for this month. And also, people were playing in the assumption that there were going to be 4 betting days during the month, so they shouldn't be disadvantaged (or advantaged) by having the monthly comp finish now after just 3 betting days.

[syllabus23]

I thought that my $230 total bets this morning would have carried me over the $500 mark ??????

Whatever Sportz,I'm sure that when racing resumes you will sort out a suitable compromise.

I hope that it doesnt take the five months that Crash mentioned in another post.

[crash]

The ABC said that a 1st time flu outbreak in other countries has resulted in up to a 5 mth. ban on average.

Anyone know a good site that has an Oz Greyhound form guide or an English/NZ racing form guide?

[Sportz]

I thought that my $230 total bets this morning would have carried me over the $500 mark ??????


Well, yeah, it would have. But we didn't have any racing, did we? So obviously that didn't count.

Don't worry. We'll just wait till this is over, then we'll work it all out.

[Sportz]

I would be VERY surprised if it's 5 months.

[crash]

Well, yeah, it would have. But we didn't have any racing, did we? So obviously that didn't count.

Don't worry. We'll just wait till this is over, then we'll work it all out.

Well I'm the only one that's spent enough money. So I win syllabus23 by default if the flu wipes out the comp. Bad luck! :-))

[syllabus23]

lololol Crash,,,,I want a stewards inquiry......

[Sportz]

Okay, well here we are again. And here's the leaderboard again:

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$916.85 . Syllabus23 . ($360.00)
$875.60 . crash
$860.00 . Sportz
$680.80 . Horse Whisperer . ($480.00)
$610.00 . Panther . ($450.00)
$581.50 . feather
$550.00 . Wise One
$505.50 . Magivor . ($326.50)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$377.80 . Spartacus
$354.30 . Maverick1993
$304.00 . Raw Instinct . ($436.00)
$271.00 . Chuck . ($384.00)
$245.00 . Goldcoaster
$241.50 . Rabbitz ($410.00)
$176.00 . Usurper
$75.00 . Longshot . ($425.00)

Now, fingers crossed we can get through Saturday and finish off the first month's comp.

With the lower number of meetings, you can start betting on the Unitab coverage of NZ racing if you want to.

[rabbitz]

241

mr 2 kerdem 50x50
mr 3 evilweb 30x30
mr11 river fairy 20x20

cb 41

[Usurper]

No reason not to spend that last $41 rabitz - from what I understand the balance will reset with the next month, so you might as well try to get a bit more $$ :)

[syllabus23]

Melb Race8 #13 Miss Finland $100 Win

Perth Race6 #1 Who Did It $100 Win

Melb Race 10 Trifecta 1-2-11-14 /1-2-11-14/ 1-2-4-5-11-14-16 $30

Total Bets $230

good luck all.

[Usurper]

Caulfield race 7, #4 -> Win [$70]
Caulfield race 6, #6 -> Win [$50]
Belmont race 6, #1 -> Win [$40]

Morphettville All Up [$16]
5 #7 place -> 6 #6 place -> 8 #7 place -> 9 #12 place

Closing balance: $0.

[crash]

Hastings (NZ) Race 9 Group 1
Roving banker* quin: 2,5,6*,11,15 [5 units $25]

Caulfield
r5 Roving banker quin: 1,4,6*,10,11 [5 units $25]
r3/7 Al Tharb 10w 30p
r4/2 Purde 40w
r5/10 Red Lord 10w
r10/5 Typhoon Zed 30w

Morphetville
r8/2 Minson 80w

Good luck everyone!

[feather]

Trifecta...3/6/6
AR6- 1-5-4-/1-5-4-7-3-2/1-5-4-7-3-2-
Cost $30.00....1/2


WIN BETS
MR5-4 RUBISCENT
MR7-1 SHREWD RHYTHM
AR2-1 VICTORY CHANGE
HOBART R6-5 MATINELLO
HOBART R8-2 DASH OF PRIDE

Cost $40 win

Total $230.00

[rabbitz]

No reason not to spend that last $41 rabitz - from what I understand the balance will reset with the next month, so you might as well try to get a bit more $$ :)
how right you are oh usurped one
sportz
give me $20x20 on mr 10 blessed sue
cb $1.50
ps seem a shame to hang onto that too so i'll have
mr 6 tri 50c -3/7/2,5,13
cb 0

[maverick1993]

Mr11 no5 Dyna Myta $50e/w
Or9 no15 Jdane $50e/w

Mr treble
1/5 , 2/8/13 , 9 x$8 = $48

total $248

[Spartacus]

$50 win
el segundo

$50 win
vormista

$20 win
cholula
typhoon zed

$20 all-up
royal asscher
shrewd rhythm
gold edition

total $160

[Chuck]

caulfild
race 2: 3-5 exacta $50
race 2: 4-10 quinella $50
race 4: 14,15 $50 win
race 5: 4-6 quinella $50

quaddie: 1,2 / 8 / 6,9 / 11,12
$20 = 250%

[Raw Instinct]

MR 8: #3 Lad of the Manor $25 E/W
MR 10: #5 Typhoon Ted $25 E/W
MR 11: #13 Fidemus $25 E/W
PR 4: #11 Windfields Farm $20 W

Melbourne Treble
1,3,11 / 2,3,5,6,13 / 6,9 $1=$30

Spent $200

[Raw Instinct]

MR 2 #5 Utility $50 W

Late selection hope this isn't to late

[wise one]

MR 5 # 6 Haddle McDaddle
MR 8 # 11 Zupaone
MR 9 # 4 Snappy Tom
MR 10 # 3 Honalee
MR 11 # 7 Amarazetti

$50 win on all

Wise One

[Sportz]

quaddie: 1,2 / 8 / 6,9 / 11,12
$20 = 250%

Ummm, sorry Chuck. This is Unitab betting only. No quaddies. :o

[Sportz]

MR3-9 Evilweb $25 EW
MR11-9 Maslins Beach $25 EW
PR1-6 Magical Belle $25 EW
PR2-4 Best Beware $25 EW
PR9-5 Keyton Grace $25 EW

[Sportz]

Hastings (NZ) Race 9 Group 1
Roving banker quin: 2,5,6*,11,15 [5 units $25]

Caulfield
r5 Roving banker quin: 1,4,6*,10,11 [5 units $25]


I don't get this. What do you mean?

You can have banker quinellas (6 - 2,5,11,15) and (6 - 1,4,10,11) but that will be $4 each x 5 units = $20. You have to include another horse to take it up to $25.

[Sportz]

caulfild
race 2: 3-5 exacta $50
race 2: 4-10 quinella $50
race 4: 14,15 $50 win
race 5: 4-6 quinella $50



I assume this was meant to be race 3. In any case, it was a loser.

[Chuck]

yeah it was

i'm having a shocker, its front runers all day. got a little back with mixxer ew in the last.

i'm pretty confident about Rubiscent and Haddle McDaddle in the next though

[crash]

I don't get this. What do you mean?

You can have banker quinellas (6 - 2,5,11,15) and (6 - 1,4,10,11) but that will be $4 each x 5 units = $20. You have to include another horse to take it up to $25.

Yep, made a mistake on the price Sportz. A unit is $6 for a 5 horse quin with 1 rover not $5, so its 4 units on each quin. @ $24 each [4x6=24]

[crash]

yeah it was

i'm having a shocker, its front runers all day. got a little back with mixxer ew in the last.

i'm pretty confident about Rubiscent and Haddle McDaddle in the next though

I thought Haddle would at least come second, if not 1st. Rubiscent was a big risk horse today [way unders] after the luckiest win I've ever seen last start. Great day for the Bookies so far and a total farce for punters.

[Sportz]

Yep, made a mistake on the price Sportz. A unit is $6 for a 5 horse quin with 1 rover not $5, so its 4 units on each quin. @ $24 each [4x6=24]

I'm sorry crash, but you've still got me totally confused. How can you have a roving banker in a quinella?

In a quinella, your "banker" can already finish either 1st or 2nd. And then one of your other selections simply has to fill the other place in the first 2. So, if you have one horse as a banker from 4 others, then surely that costs just $4, not $6.

[Sportz]

Good win with Scenic Blast, Usurper. Who knows? Maybe you can come from the clouds and finish in the top two.

[Usurper]

Caulfield race 7, #4 -> Win [$70]
Caulfield race 6, #6 -> Win [$50]
Belmont race 6, #1 -> Win [$40]

Morphettville All Up [$16]
5 #7 place -> 6 #6 place -> 8 #7 place -> 9 #12 place

Closing balance: $0.
That was supposed to be Caulfield race 8 #6, not race 6, #6. If it's too late to change, I understand.

[Usurper]

Good win with Scenic Blast, Usurper. Who knows? Maybe you can come from the clouds and finish in the top two.
Cheers, but I need another $5-6 win div for it to happen, don't think so :)

[Usurper]

That was supposed to be Caulfield race 8 #6, not race 6, #6. If it's too late to change, I understand.
Race 9 I mean!!! GAwd. Sorry Im all over the shop today.

[Sportz]

Yes it is. I'm sorry. :o

I can certainly understand what you mean, but no, you can't change it now that race 6 has been run. Bad luck. In future, try to put the name of the horse as well as the number.

[Usurper]

Yeah my bad, lazy, not a problem, cheers :)

[crash]

I'm sorry crash, but you've still got me totally confused. How can you have a roving banker in a quinella?

In a quinella, your "banker" can already finish either 1st or 2nd. And then one of your other selections simply has to fill the other place in the first 2. So, if you have one horse as a banker from 4 others, then surely that costs just $4, not $6.

Well it's the first time I've ever had a roving banker quin. in my life, so whatever you reckon. I thought the cost was $5 or $6[?]. If the cost is $4 then that's 6 units for $24? I don't think I can have 6.25 units for $25 can I ?

The NZ quin won.

[Sportz]

Well nobody else would have had one either crash, because as I said, it doesn't exist. When you have a banker in a quinella, it already IS a "rover" in as much as it can finish either 1st or 2nd. Then one of your other selections has to fill the other place in the top 2. And yes, it does cost $4 for 1 unit, so you can have 6 units on the 2 quinellas today.

I'm being very fair here, because this could cost me a spot in the top 2.

[crash]

Well I'll be fair too Sports. Like I said those 2 quins were my first 2 RB quins but since I put them up I've had another one at my local TAB. It reads:

RACE 3 - 12.35
QIN 6RB,1,4,10,11 [that exactly what's on the ticket]. It cost me $6 for 1 unit.

Apart from that, I read a 2 page article on Roving banker quins. last night in an Australian glossy punting mag. If they don't exist what are they talking about and what about the ticket? A Banker quin?

As it was discribed to me in the mag. No. 6 would be my RB [must come 1st. or 2nd.] and any of the other 4 for either 1st or 2nd.

Anyway your the boss, I'll go by whatever decision you make Sportz.

[Usurper]

Race 9 I mean!!! GAwd. Sorry Im all over the shop today.
1st too, doh! I'll have to make my move earlier next month.

[Sportz]

Well, I don't know what bet type that is that you've got, but it's not available on Unitab. On Unitab, they're just simply "banker" quinellas. You can't have such a thing as a "Roving Banker" quinella. As far as I can see, it's exactly the same thing though, so I don't know why you should have to pay $6 for it. It's $4 on Unitab and that's what I'll put down for you, so 6 units on each quinella.

[crash]

Ok, RB quin in Vic., Banker quin in NSW [cheaper too]. Same thing different name it seems.

[peterpan]

Well I'll be fair too Sports. Like I said those 2 quins were my first 2 RB quins but since I put them up I've had another one at my local TAB. It reads:

RACE 3 - 12.35
QIN 6RB,1,4,10,11 [that exactly what's on the ticket]. It cost me $6 for 1 unit.

.
crash,
That quin you have in the post is a BOX quin.

4 selections which is 3+ 2+1 =$6.

[Sportz]

Okay, I've still got a race left, but it won't make any difference to the order, so here's the leaderboard:



Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$1056.85 . Syllabus23
$747.50 . Sportz
$727.80 . crash
$638.05 . feather
$630.00 . Usurper
$300.00 . Wise One
$245.00 . Goldcoaster
$226.30 . Maverick1993
$217.80 . Spartacus
$161.50 . Raw Instinct
$54.00 . Rabbitz
$21.00 . Chuck
----------
$680.80 . Horse Whisperer . ($480.00)
$610.00 . Panther . ($450.00)
$505.50 . Magivor . ($326.50)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$75.00 . Longshot . ($425.00)


So Syllabus23 and myself are the two tipsters to progress to the finals from this month. Bad luck to crash and bad luck to Usurper as well.

We will start off with a new $500 bank and a new 4 week comp next week.

[Sportz]

crash,
That quin you have in the post is a BOX quin.

4 selections which is 3+ 2+1 =$6.

Nah, I don't think so. I'm not sure what it is that he's got, but I don't think that's it.

[crash]

Congratulation Syllabus23 and Sportz. Well done!

[crash]

Nah, I don't think so. I'm not sure what it is that he's got, but I don't think that's it.

I checked at the TAB. The quin was A 'Roving Banker' Quin [QIN 6RB,1,4,10,11]. Know in NSW as a Banker Quin.[horse No.6 can come 1st. or 2nd.]

[Sportz]

Yeah, I can understand the name of it, crash. The bit I can't understand is the cost. It makes no sense that it costs $6 in Victoria when basically the same bet under a different name is $4 up here.

[crash]

I don't understand the cost difference either Sportz but I'll find out. Meanwhile to put to bed whether the Roving Banker Quin exists:

If you go to the Stab racing site: http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Default.aspx?State=1
and click on a race, then click on bet type Quin, one of the option boxes you can then tick is 'Roving Banker'.

You don't need money in an account to do the above [only if you wanted to process the bet].

[syllabus23]

ty Crash,,luck's a fortune

[crash]

Well, I don't know what bet type that is that you've got, but it's not available on Unitab. On Unitab, they're just simply "banker" quinellas. You can't have such a thing as a "Roving Banker" quinella. As far as I can see, it's exactly the same thing though, so I don't know why you should have to pay $6 for it. It's $4 on Unitab and that's what I'll put down for you, so 6 units on each quinella.

Finally on th Quin subject Sportz. I think you might be wrong there about Roving Banker Quins not being available on Unitab. PeterPan put this on through his Unitab account and it's called a Roving Banker Quin:

01/09/2007 19:06 01/09/2007 PERH 3 1r2,3,4,5 (ROVING BANKER) Quinella 1 $4.00

I'm yet to find out why the same bet on Stab costs $6 though!

[Sportz]

Well, I don't want to keep going on about this. But I use the Unitab website and I can guarantee you that it is simply called a banker quinella on there. I just put a bet on to make sure I was correct and I was.

In the info section of the website, they mention 4 different Quinellas - The standard Quinella, Box Quinella, Banker Quinella and Multiple Quinella. And here's what they say about the Banker Quinella:

BANKER QUINELLA
If you feel there's a 'sure thing' in a race that looks certain to win or at worst run second, then a Banker Quinella is a perfect type of bet. Your 'Banker' would be the 'sure thing' and you can group it with any number of other runners in that race. Providing your 'Banker' runs first or second and any one of your other selections finishes first or second with your 'Banker', you win the Quinella. The more 'other' selections you take the more combinations you get. For example, if you took a 'Banker' with six (6) other runners you would get six (6) combinations. This bet would cost $A6 for a $A1 bet and $A3 for a 50c bet.



In any case, no matter what it's called, for the rest of this comp, the bets you made yesterday would cost $4, not $6.

[crash]

Well I've just found out that PeterPan's bet was through a Stab account, not Unitab.

Strange why the local TAB ticket I bought cost me $6! I'll have to look into it and find out why the difference in cost.

[Sportz]

Okay, you can start posting tips for Saturday now. Remember, we're starting a new 4 week comp now and everyone begins again on $500.

[Horse Whisperer]

SR8 GERMAN CHOCOLATE $100 WIN
MR7 MARASCO $100 WIN
MR1 2 GIBRALTER CAMPION $50 WIN

[Magivor]

MR 6 N3 Emjay Hussey $100 win.

MR 2 N12 El Daana $100 win.

MR 5 N12 Dirty Denim $25 e-w.

[Spartacus]

Flem

R5 Box Tri 3.4.5/3.4.5.7.8.10/3.4.5.7.8.10 for 50c $30
R8 Bon Hoffa $60 win
All-up R8 #9/R9 #8 $10
R8 Quinella 4/9 $20
R9 Master O'Reilly $80 win

total $200

[Raw Instinct]

MR 2: #7 Oronero $25 e/w
MR 3: #8 Utility $25 e/w
MR 5: #1 Brom Felenity $25 e/w
MR 8: #10 Roman Squire 25 e/w

Treble
Melbourne
R5: 1,3,5,10,15 R6: 10 R8: 4,5,6,8,9,10 for $1 =$30

[syllabus23]

Melb Race3 #8 Utility $100 Place

Melb Race4 #3 Orange County $100 Win

Melb Race5 Trifecta, 3,7,8,19--3,7,8,19--3,4,5,7,8,19,20 $30

Total Bets $230

Good luck all.

[longshot]

MELB R6 H7 SLEEK CHASSIS $50 WIN

MELB R6 TRI H 7 / 3,4,5,9,10,11/3,4,5,9,10,11 .50c total $45

total bets $95

Cheers

[Usurper]

Flemington race 6, #4 Diplomatic Force [$10 WIN]
Morphettville race 7, #6 Silent Sophia [$10 WIN]

Balance: $480

[crash]

FLEMINGTON
r3/7 Temple Hills $50w
r6/10 Chinchilla Rose $50w
r9/8 Master O'reilly $50w
r9/15 Red Lord $50w

Quin: r3/5,7 [$5]
Boxed Tri: r4/1,3,9 [$3 for 50c unit]
Tri: r8/4,5 x 1,2,4,5,7,9,12 [$30 for 50c unit]
First 4 boxed: r8/2,4,5,9 [$12 for 50c unit]

Balance $250

[Goldcoaster]

MR2-1 $50Win
MR6-9 $50 Win
MR8-2 $50 Win

[rabbitz]

ar 4 no 3 tradesmans choice $100win

all up place $20
mr 4 no 2 live in vain
mr 6 no 1-zizou
mr 8 no 2-lets go thommo

mr 7 n0 4 blue monday $50x$50=$100

$220

[feather]

AR5 - 3/6/6/ 1/2 Cost $30
1-3-7- /1-3-7-2-9-5/ 1-3-7-2-9-5

SR8 - 3/6/6 1/2 Cost $30
4-12-3- /4-12-3-2-9-7- /4-12-3-2-9-7

SR9 - 3/6/6 1/2 Cost $30
2-6-11- /2-6-11-9-4-3- /2-6-11-9-4-3

SR10 - 3/5/5 1/2 Cost ??
10-9-1- / 10-9-1-2-11/ 10-9-1-2-11

AR 7-6 SILENT SOPHIA $50 E/WAY

[wise one]

BR 5 # 7 Scattergun
BR 7 # 2 Blood ‘n’ Bone
MR 3 # 5 Mettre En Jau
MR 7 # 2 Apache Cat
MR 9 # 8 Master O’Reilly

$50 win on all

Wise One

[maverick1993]

Mr6 no7 Sleek Chassis 100w
Br6 no9 Colonial Lass 100w
Mr treb 3,7,8/ 7,9,10/ 6 x $3 =$27
Mr6 tri 7 / 9,10 x 10 =$20
Sr treb 4/4/3 x$3 = $3

total $250

[Sportz]

MR2-4 Husonic $25 EW
MR3-5 Mettre En Jeu $25 EW
MR4-1 King Of Ashford $25 EW
MR5-7 Juste Momente $25 EW
MR6-2 Scenic Blast $25 EW

[Sportz]

SR10 - 3/5/5 1/2 Cost ??
10-9-1- / 10-9-1-2-11/ 10-9-1-2-11


$18

[Chuck]

am i too late?

caulfield 3-4 molotov $50 ew

[Sportz]

Nah, you're okay.

[Sportz]

Well, Spartacus has had an absolute blinder today. Still adding up the scores, but boy, he's going to be hard to beat this month!

[Sportz]

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$1413.70 . Spartacus . ($200.00)
$740.00 . Maverick1993 . ($250.00)
$700.00 . Chuck . ($100.00)
$661.00 . Syllabus23 . ($230.00)
$602.00 . feather . ($208.00)
$600.00 . Horse Whisperer . ($150.00)
$527.00 . Usurper . ($20.00)
$495.00 . Goldcoaster . ($150.00)
$430.00 . crash . ($250.00)
$430.00 . Wise One . ($250.00)
$405.00 . Longshot . ($95.00)
$302.50 . Sportz . ($250.00)
$280.00 . Rabbitz . ($220.00)
$270.00 . Raw Instinct . ($230.00)
$250.00 . Magivor . ($250.00)

Well done Spartacus. That's what I call a good day's tipping!

[crash]

Spartacus,

Great going mate!

[Horse Whisperer]

If a horse is a late scratching and you can't come back on and replace it, then it's still counted as a bet. You just get your money back.

sportz i think ive bet $250 :D

[syllabus23]

Great day Spartacus.

[Sportz]

sportz i think ive bet $250 :D

Hmmm, okay I guess so.

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$1413.70 . Spartacus . ($200.00)
$740.00 . Maverick1993 . ($250.00)
$700.00 . Chuck . ($100.00)
$661.00 . Syllabus23 . ($230.00)
$602.00 . feather . ($208.00)
$600.00 . Horse Whisperer . ($250.00)
$527.00 . Usurper . ($20.00)
$495.00 . Goldcoaster . ($150.00)
$430.00 . crash . ($250.00)
$430.00 . Wise One . ($250.00)
$405.00 . Longshot . ($95.00)
$302.50 . Sportz . ($250.00)
$280.00 . Rabbitz . ($220.00)
$270.00 . Raw Instinct . ($230.00)
$250.00 . Magivor . ($250.00)

[Spartacus]

thanks boys.

i managed to win about $40 of real dosh ! http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

[Horse Whisperer]

MR1 3 HEART $5O E/W
MR5 9 TICKLISH $25 E/W
MR8 14 MASLINS BEACH $50 E/W

[Magivor]

MR7 N9 Gold Edition $100 win.MR7 Exacta 9/1,11 $25 ----$50
MR7 Trifecta 9/1,11/1,3,4,6,11 $5----$40
MR7 F4 9/1,11/1,3,4,6,11/1,3,4,6,11 $2----$48
MR7/8 Daily Double 9/1,2,3,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14 $1-----$12

$250 (i think)

[Magivor]

oh btw if you can't tell i think Goldie might be a sneaky chance tomorrow.

[rabbitz]

mr 8-12 cancanelle $50x$50

mr treble
3,6,8
4,9,12
6,7,8,14

$36

cb $144

[crash]

Magivor,
You might have spent a bit too much on exotics [$50 max allowed I think] :-))


My bets at the Valley:

r1 Goondi $50w
r3 Snappy Tom $50w
r4 Gladwell $30w
r5 Corporal Nediym $20w
r8 Evilweb $50w

$200 total

[Goldcoaster]

MR5-6 $ 50 win
BR3-5 $ 50 win
BR5-4 $ 50 win
MR5-6 $50 win
MR9-6 $50 Win

[Usurper]

Moonee Valley race 3, #12 - Master Tiangar $50 Win

[Chuck]

MR 6-3 El Segundo $100 win
MR 6- 3-8 Quinella $40
MR 7-4 $50 win
MR 7- 1,3,4,9,10 Box Tri .50 = $60

[Spartacus]

MV

R5 Typhoon Zed $50 win
Shadowmaker $20 place
Box quinella 5.6.7.9 for $5 ($30)
R7 Gold Edition $50 win

total $150

[Chuck]

MR Treble
3,8
1,4,9
7,11,12,14
= $24

[maverick1993]

Mr5 no6 Typhoon Zed $100w
Mr8 no4 Miss La Tar $50e/w

mr treble 6 / 3 / 9 x $20
br treble 3 / 4 / 5 x$10

Mr tri r2,, 3,4 / 3,4,9,12/3,4,9,12,8 x .50 = $9
mr tri r8,, 4,7 / 4,7,6,11 / 4,7,6,11,14 x .50 = $9
mr 1st4 r6,, 3 / 8 / 11,9/ 11,9,10 x .50 = $2

total $250

[syllabus23]

Melb Race 5 #6 Typhoon Zed $100 Win (sorry mav,I guess great minds etc)

Adel Race 6 #3 El Maze $100 Place

Melb Race 8 Trifecta 6-7-11-14 / 6-7-11-14 /2-6-7-8-11-12-14 $30

Total Bets $230

Good luck all.

[wise one]

BR 02 # 3 Finder Page
BR 08 # 3 October Sky
MR 05 # 6 Tyhoon Zed
MR 07 # 1 Undue

$50 win on all

Wise one

[Raw Instinct]

MR 4: #8 Antarctic Miss $20 e/w
MR 5: #15 Mondano $20 e/w
MR 6: #1 Lad of the Manor $20 e/w
MR 7: #7 Stanzout $20 e/w
MR 8: #1 Brom Felenity $20 e/w

[Sportz]

MR3-17 SANJUAN $50 WIN
MR4-9 ARCADIA $50 WIN
MR9-6 SIRMIONE $50 WIN
PR3-1 THE FUTURE $50 WIN
PR8-7 FLIRTSON $50 WIN

[Chuck]

MR 7- 1,3,4,9,10 Box Tri .50 = $60

that should be $1 = $60

[Sportz]

The maximum amount you're allowed to spend on a trifecta is $50, Chuck.

[Chuck]

ok, make it a half for $30

[Sportz]

MR 4: #8 Antarctic Miss $20 e/w


Well done, Raw.

[Sportz]

You might have spent a bit too much on exotics [$50 max allowed I think] :-))


No, he's right. Sorry if I haven't explained it clearly. You can bet the whole $250 on exotics if you wish. You just can't spend more than $50 on one exotic bet.

In other words, if you wanted too, you could have a quinella, a trifecta, a first 4, a double and a treble all costing $50.

[Sportz]

MR5-6 $ 50 win
BR3-5 $ 50 win
BR5-4 $ 50 win
MR5-6 $50 win
MR9-6 $50 Win

Ummm, sorry if this was supposed to be two different horses, but you didn't put any names there, so I just made it $100 on 5-6.

[Sportz]

Mr tri r2,, 3,4 / 3,4,9,12/3,4,9,12,8 x .50 = $9
mr 1st4 r6,, 3 / 8 / 11,9/ 11,9,10 x .50 = $2



Well done, Mav. For a tiny little $11 outlay on these two bets, you got back over $320!!!

[Sportz]

Okay, I think Magivor has just set a record that will NEVER be beaten!!! :eek:

Thanks to Gold Edition, Vormista, Dr Nipandtuck and Undue, he's just collected $19,753!!! :eek:

[Horse Whisperer]

i was just looking at that wholly ******** hope he put those bets on for real, that is amazing.

congrats on that!!

[Chuck]

i missed the race :rolleyes: how was Vormista's run and what happened to HDA?

awesome stuff Magivor!!!!

[Raw Instinct]

Here De Angels simply wasn't good enough

Great work Magivor hope you got some of that

[Raw Instinct]

Should have said that Vormistas run was sensational she peeled alot of ground off them late

[Magivor]

thanks guys,

must say everything fell into place so i got a bit lucky,
did get a little bit of it but not the whole lot!

[Sportz]

Yeah, Vormista made all the difference. If Undue had finished 2nd instead, the collect would have been a lot less. So, well done on tipping her.

Somehow, I think I can probably put your name down for the finals now. ;)

[crash]

Okay, I think Magivor has just set a record that will NEVER be beaten!!! :eek:

Thanks to Gold Edition, Vormista, Dr Nipandtuck and Undue, he's just collected $19,753!!! :eek:

With that score, sounds like the comp. winner to me. Well done Magivor!

[Horse Whisperer]

yeah agree about vormista
run of the race, 3-4 wide and taking that sort of ground off gold edition.

[syllabus23]

WOW!!!!!! Magivor rules !!!!!!! well done!!!