Cox Plate 2040m 27th October, 2007

[sportzfan]

Nominations:

1 ABLE TOO Grahame Begg
2 ACTIVATION (NZ) Dale Sutton
3 ADMIRAL'S CRUISE (USA) Brian Meehan
4 ADMIRALOFTHEFLEET (USA) Aidan O'Brien
5 ALLIED FORCE David Hayes
6 ALYTAAT (NZ) Mick Price
7 ANAMATO David Hayes
8 ANNENKOV (IRE) Peter G Moody
9 APACHE CAT Greg Eurell
10 APERCU Clarry Conners
11 ARLINGTON Graeme Rogerson
12 ASSENT Graeme Rogerson
13 AWAAWA (NZ) John McArdle
14 BANC DE FORTUNE John Hawkes
15 BARLINNIE (NZ) Peter G Moody
16 BELLINI ROSE (NZ) Mathew Ellerton
17 BIANOMOUR Robbie Laing
18 BLACK TOM David Hayes
19 BLUE KSAR (FR) Saeed Bin Suroor
20 BLUE MONDAY (GB) David Hayes
21 BLUTIGEROO Colin Little
22 BODACIOUS HARMONY Mark Kavanagh
23 BON HOFFA Wendy Kelly
24 BROM FELINITY Jim Mason
25 BRUT FORCE Graeme Rogerson
26 BRYANNBO'S GIFT (NZ) Anne-Marie Ruttley
27 CAMARILLA John Hawkes
28 CANCANELLE Robbie Griffiths
29 CARRY ON DUDE Graeme Rogerson
30 CASINO PRINCE Anthony Cummings
31 CASUAL PASS Mathew Ellerton
32 CECCONI David Hayes
33 CEFALU (CHI) Lee Freedman
34 CENT PER CENT Graeme Rogerson
35 CHEEKY CHOICE Lee Freedman
36 CHINA CAUSEWAY Michael Kent
37 CINQUE CENTO Peter G Moody
38 CLASSIC DE LAGO David Hayes
39 COALESCE (NZ) John Hawkes
40 COMPLETION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
41 COSMONAUT (USA) Patrick Biancone
42 COTHAM Graeme Rogerson
43 CRESTA RUN Bart Cummings
44 CUTHBERT SON (NZ) Michael Kent
45 DANE EMPIRE Brian Jenkins
46 DANEVER David Hayes
47 DANTE'S PARADISO (NZ) James Bester
48 DAVCON Heath Conners
49 DEBATING (NZ) Clarry Conners
50 DESERT MOVE (IRE) Lee Freedman
51 DIPLOMATIC FORCE Wayne Nichols
52 DIVINE MADONNA Mark Kavanagh
53 DRACS BACK Darren Weir
54 DYLAN THOMAS (IRE) Aidan O'Brien
55 ECHO OF LIGHT (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor
56 EFFICIENT (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
57 EL CUENTO Les Ross
58 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little
59 EMBANK (NZ) Leon Corstens
60 EMPERATOR Graeme Rogerson
61 EMPIRES CHOICE (NZ) Bart Cummings
62 EQUIVOCAL David Hayes
63 EREMEIN Allan Denham
64 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) Michael Moroney
65 FALSTAFF (IRE) Lee Freedman
66 FIANCHETTO (NZ) Bart Cummings
67 FIRE IN THE NIGHT Greg Eurell
68 FIUMICINO (NZ) John Hawkes
69 FLAVOURSOME Rick Worthington
70 FORMAL DECREE (GER) Saeed Bin Suroor
71 GALLANT TESS David Payne
72 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
73 GAZE (NZ) Roger James
74 GENERAL EISENHOWER (NZ) Mick Price
75 GEORGE WASHINGTON (IRE) Aidan O'Brien
76 GOD'S HAND Bart Cummings
77 GRAND DANCER (NZ) Bruce Wallace
78 GRAPHICAL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
79 GROWL (NZ) Almond Lee
80 GUILLOTINE (NZ) David Payne
81 HARADASUN Tony Vasil
82 HE'S SOMETHING Kim Mayberry
83 HEADTURNER John Hawkes
84 HONOR IN WAR (USA) Chris Waller
85 JOKERS WILD (NZ) Michael Moroney
86 JUST DANCING Grahame Begg
87 KERDEM (IRE) David Hayes
88 KILOTON Bart Cummings
89 KING OF ASHFORD (NZ) Lee Freedman
90 KRONER (NZ) Bart Cummings
91 LA MONTAGNA Barry Baldwin
92 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted
93 LAP OF HONOR (NZ) David Payne
94 LAZER SHARP David Hayes
95 LEICA FALCON Richard Freyer
96 MAGIC CAPE (NZ) Shaune Ritchie
97 MALDIVIAN (NZ) Mark Kavanagh
98 MALOOSE Michael Kent
99 MANDELA (NZ) Richard Yuill
100 MANHATTAN MAGIC (NZ) Mick Price
101 MARAAHEL (IRE) Sir Michael Stoute
102 MARASCO Fred Kersley
103 MASLINS BEACH Anthony Cummings
104 MASTERCRAFT Leon Corstens
105 MAYBE BETTER Brian Mayfield-Smith
106 MEARAS John Hawkes
107 MELD Graeme Rogerson
108 MENTALITY John Hawkes
109 METTRE EN JEU (NZ) Lee Freedman
110 MEURICE Gai Waterhouse
111 MIND YOUR HEAD John Ledger
112 MISS FINLAND David Hayes
113 MOLOTOV David Hayes
114 MONET RULES Leon Corstens
115 MORGAN DOLLAR Stuart Gower
116 MURTAJILL Tim Martin
117 MUSKET John Hawkes
118 MY MIDDI Theresa Bateup
119 NEWLY Graeme Rogerson
120 NICONERO David Hayes
121 OLYMPIAN ODYSSEY (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor
122 OUR LORD MONTY (NZ) Peter Mckenzie
123 OXIGENADA (ARG) David Hayes
124 PERFECT DROP Guy Walter
125 POMPEII RULER Mick Price
126 PRESSING (IRE) Michael Jarvis
127 PRINCE ARTHUR Bart Cummings
128 PRINCESS COUP Mark Walker
129 PROART Shane A Edwards
130 PURE HARMONY (NZ) Mick Price
131 RACING TO WIN John O'Shea
132 RAILINGS Roger James
133 RAMONTI (FR) Saeed Bin Suroor
134 REIGNING TO WIN John O'Shea
135 RENEWABLE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
136 RIVER TIBER (GB) Luca Cumani
137 ROAD TO ROCK Anthony Cummings
138 RUM CORPS Robert Smerdon
139 SEACHANGE (NZ) Ralph Manning
140 SEAFARER David Hayes
141 SEPIA Graeme Rogerson
142 SHADOW GATE (JPN) Yukihiro Kato
143 SHREWD RHYTHM Greg Eurell
144 SHUAILY (PER) Lee Freedman
145 SILVER TREE (USA) William Mott
146 SIMPLEST Graeme Rogerson
147 SIR JAMES (NZ) Bart Cummings
148 SIR SLICK (NZ) Graeme Nicholson
149 SIRMIONE Bart Cummings
150 SKIDDAW PEAK Michael Moroney
151 SLEEK CHASSIS David Hayes
152 SNIPER'S BULLET Tracey Bartley
153 SOLO FLYER Anthony Cummings
154 SONIC QUEST Lee Freedman
155 SOREADYFORSPRING (USA) David Hayes
156 SOULACROIX (GB) Lee Freedman
157 SPHENOPHYTA (NZ) Lee Freedman
158 SPIELMEISTER David Hayes
159 STAGE GIFT (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor
160 STREETFIGHTER Terry Mathrick
161 SUDAN (IRE) Michael Jarvis
162 TAWQEET (USA) David Hayes
163 TEMPLE HILLS (NZ) Peter G Moody
164 TESTAFIABLE David Kelly
165 THE FUZZ (NZ) David Hayes
166 TINTERN Graeme Rogerson
167 TIPUNGWUTI Mark Kavanagh
168 TRESOR Clarry Conners
169 TRICK OF LIGHT (GB) Michael Kent
170 TUESDAY JOY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
171 TURFFONTEIN Anthony Cummings
172 UPPER ECHELON John Hawkes
173 UTZON Les Bridge
174 VAIN CRUSADER Trevor Andrews
175 VERCORS (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
176 VIVA MACAU (FR) John Moore
177 VIVA PATACA (GB) John Moore
178 VOLCANIC STAR Tom Hughes
179 VORMISTA Mark Minervini
180 WHERE'S THAT TIGER (USA) Gai Waterhouse
181 WONDERFUL WORLD Bart Cummings
182 XCELLENT (NZ) Michael Moroney
183 YELLOWSTONE (IRE) Aidan O'Brien
184 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson
185 ZIZOU David Hayes
186 ZUPAONE John Symons & Sheila Laxon

[Magivor]

big watch on Blutigeroo being nominated for this one, floating around $81

[rabbitz]

Marasco !!!

[westi]

The MightyM !!

[Chiquita]

another for marasco

[suds]

EL SEGUNDO
POMPEII RULER
MARASCO
HARADASUN

[eddie72]

I'm a big fan of El Segundo for the Cox. Don't mind Pompeii Ruler either.

[Chiquita]

I'm a big fan of El Segundo for the Cox. Don't mind Pompeii Ruler either.

Big run by El Segundo last year!

[Chuck]

Camarilla ;)

[sportzfan]

those under 100/1

HARADASUN. $5.00 $2.00
MARASCO. $5.50 $2.12
MISS FINLAND. $7.00 $2.50
EL SEGUNDO. $9.00 $3.00
POMPEII RULER. $9.00 $3.00
VIVA PATACA. $13.00 $4.00
EREMEIN. $17.00 $5.00
DIVINE MADONNA. $21.00 $6.00
RACING TO WIN. $21.00 $6.00
APACHE CAT. $26.00 $7.25
DYLAN THOMAS. $26.00 $7.25
RAMONTI. $26.00 $7.25
BLUE MONDAY. $35.00 $9.50
CAMARILLA. $35.00 $9.50
EFFICIENT. $35.00 $9.50
GEORGE WASHINGTON. $35.00 $9.50
GUILLOTINE. $35.00 $9.50
KING OF ASHFORD. $35.00 $9.50
MARAAHEL. $35.00 $9.50
MAYBE BETTER. $35.00 $9.50
MENTALITY. $35.00 $9.50
SNIPERS BULLET. $35.00 $9.50
SPHENOPHYTA. $35.00 $9.50
WONDERFUL WORLD. $35.00 $9.50
ADMIRALS CRUISE. $51.00 $13.50
ANAMATO. $51.00 $13.50
CASUAL PASS. $51.00 $13.50
FALSTAFF. $51.00 $13.50
FIUMICINO. $51.00 $13.50
LAD OF THE MANOR. $51.00 $13.50
MEURICE. $51.00 $13.50
REIGNING TO WIN. $51.00 $13.50
SEACHANGE. $51.00 $13.50
STAGE GIFT. $51.00 $13.50
TAWQEET. $51.00 $13.50
TIPUNGWUTI. $51.00 $13.50
TUESDAY JOY. $51.00 $13.50
XCELLENT. $51.00 $13.50
CASINO PRINCE. $71.00 $18.50
ESKIMO QUEEN. $71.00 $18.50
GROWL. $71.00 $18.50
LA MONTAGNA. $71.00 $18.50
MALDIVIAN. $71.00 $18.50
MEARAS. $71.00 $18.50
PERFECT DROP. $71.00 $18.50
SHADOW GATE. $71.00 $18.50
SLEEK CHASSIS. $71.00 $18.50

[Stix]

Pompeii Ruler for me...... have taken the 9's

See how we go....

[sportzfan]

Pompeii Ruler for me...... have taken the 9's

See how we go....

Top chance on form last prep.

[sportzfan]

Camarilla ;)

Has the pace to race up front but not sure how strong she can run out 2000m?

[Chuck]

mate i reckon shes going to be a top notch horse, i think 1600-2000 is her go from what we saw last prep in the blue diamond, slipper, sires etc., looking for a big season. i backed her at 40s on betfair, might lay off when she comes in after a solid first few races, i'm not sure she will be able to go head to head with the likes of marasco and haradasun etc

[Stix]

Pompeii Ruler for me...... have taken the 9's

See how we go....
....also took the 3's for a place..... profit if runs a drum... ;)

[suds]

Anyone fancy John Moore's Vivas? in particular Viva Pataca

[YoungBuck]

Anyone fancy John Moore's Vivas? in particular Viva Pataca
I have backed it @ 14's on Betfair a few weeks ago, but you could probably do better than that. I heard one of our aussie jockeys that race over in Hong Kong (Prebble i think) saying VIVA PATACA was in his opinion one of the top 3 horses in the world middle distance. He thought it would win the Cox plate, and would also win the Caulfield if it raced. That was good enough for me...

[Raw Instinct]

if Viva Pataca settles into Australia well and handles our race tracks I feel he will win the race I just have the feeling he is a class above the horses we have right now the only reason you are seeing double figures about him is that he has to aclimatise. Of the Australian horses I only have a couple at this point that i don't mind for the race and they are Pompeii Ruler who I feel is almost fool proof the fact he can take a forward position helps him no end here, the other is Marasco however I have a feeling he will always have trouble beating Pompeii Ruler on this track.

Viva Pataca is the one they all have to beat IMO.

[watsonnek]

Has Viva Pataca been to oz before?

[Raw Instinct]

No he hasn't i don't believe

[sportsmad]

stood to win heaps on El Segundo last year but was not to be...having another bite this year

[eddie72]

stood to win heaps on El Segundo last year but was not to be...having another bite this year

...a big bite for me!

[Chiquita]

Marasco is no certainty to run in the Cox. Kersley considering other options.

[suds]

geez! a lot of (all-in) money down the tube if he doesn't start!!

[westi]

I have backed it @ 14's on Betfair a few weeks ago, but you could probably do better than that. I heard one of our aussie jockeys that race over in Hong Kong (Prebble i think) saying VIVA PATACA was in his opinion one of the top 3 horses in the world middle distance. He thought it would win the Cox plate, and would also win the Caulfield if it raced. That was good enough for me...

Had some as well. Broke a 12 year old track record easily beating Vengeance Of Rain (no slouch) in a Gr 1 over 2400 at Shatin, Hong Kong in June this year. Have also backed in the CC.

[YoungBuck]

Had some as well. Broke a 12 year old track record easily beating Vengeance Of Rain (no slouch) in a Gr 1 over 2400 at Shatin, Hong Kong in June this year. Have also backed in the CC.That sounds even more encouraging!

[westi]

...and scheduled to arrive Melbourne early next week with stablemate Viva Macau. John Blakey, the Melbourne foreman for Anthony Cummings to oversee the spring preparation of the two gallopers for John Moore.

[suds]

Is this John Moore the son of former champion jockey George Moore ?

[westman]

Is this John Moore the son of former champion jockey George Moore ?

Sure is ;)

[sportzfan]

Trainer Greg Eurell has just announced that he hasn’t ruled out a start in the Cox Plate for Apache Cat.

A bit of a turnabout as Eurell was adamant after last year's failure same race, that he would stick to feature races up to 1600m in the future, for Apache Cat.

[westman]

Pompeii Ruler for me...... have taken the 9's

See how we go....

....also took the 3's for a place..... profit if runs a drum... ;)

B u g g e r!! Do you get your money back Stix?

[Stix]

B u g g e r!! Do you get your money back Stix?
Nope..... the risk of ALL IN betting.......... :o

[westman]

I have backed it @ 14's on Betfair a few weeks ago, but you could probably do better than that. I heard one of our aussie jockeys that race over in Hong Kong (Prebble i think) saying VIVA PATACA was in his opinion one of the top 3 horses in the world middle distance. He thought it would win the Cox plate, and would also win the Caulfield if it raced. That was good enough for me...

Not coming to oz, being set for the Breeders' Cup Turf over 2400m at Monmouth Park, New Jersey on October 27.

[Raw Instinct]

I have heard that they are going to refund the money on all the horses that cannot race in the 3 big races because of EI so don't give up hope you might get your money backon Viva Pataca yet as that is the only reason he is not coming out here.

[sportzfan]

Miss Finland 3.60
Marasco 4.00
El Segundo 4.20
Haradasun 8.00
Belmonte 15.00
Blue Monday 15.00
George Washington 17.00
Apache Cat 21.00
Eremein (Doubtful) 21.00
Racing To Win (Doubtful) 21.00
Efficient 26.00
Seachange 26.00
Dylan Thomas (Doubtful) 26.00
Ramonti 26.00
Mentality (Doubtful) 34.00
Divine Madonna 41.00
Fiumicino (Doubtful) 41.00
Maldivian 41.00
Sniper's Bullet (Doubtful) 41.00
Wonderful World 41.00
Zupaone 41.00
Maraahel 41.00
Oxigenada 41.00
Zipping 41.00
Camarilla 51.00
Guillotine (Doubtful) 51.00
King Of Ashford 51.00
Lad Of The Manor 51.00
Maybe Better 51.00
Reigning To Win (Doubtful) 51.00
Tawqeet 51.00
Tipungwuti 51.00
Tuesday Joy 51.00
Admiral's Cruise 51.00
Falstaff 51.00
Meurice (Doubtful) 51.00
Shadow Gate 51.00
Stage Gift 51.00

[pipedream]

10/1 place not bad value for zipping based on todays run in the makybe diva

[westman]

1 ACTIVATION (NZ) Dale Sutton 59
2 ADMIRAL'S CRUISE (USA) Brian Meehan 59
3 ANNENKOV (IRE) Peter G Moody 59
4 APACHE CAT Greg Eurell 59
5 BIANOMOUR Robbie Laing 59
6 BLACK TOM David Hayes 59
7 BLUE KSAR (FR) Saeed Bin Suroor 59
8 BLUE MONDAY (GB) David Hayes 59
9 BLUTIGEROO Colin Little 59
10 BON HOFFA Wendy Kelly 59
11 CASUAL PASS Mathew Ellerton 59
12 CEFALU (CHI) Lee Freedman 59
13 COALESCE (NZ) John Hawkes 59
14 COMPLETION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 59
15 COSMONAUT (USA) Patrick Biancone 59
16 CRESTA RUN Bart Cummings 59
17 DANE EMPIRE Brian Jenkins 59
18 DANTE'S PARADISO (NZ) James Bester 59
19 DRACS BACK Darren Weir 59
20 DYLAN THOMAS (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 59
21 ECHO OF LIGHT (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 59
22 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little 59
23 EREMEIN Allan Denham 59
24 FALSTAFF (IRE) Lee Freedman 59
25 FLAVOURSOME Rick Worthington 59
26 FORMAL DECREE (GER) Saeed Bin Suroor 59
27 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 59
28 GEORGE WASHINGTON (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 59
29 GRAPHICAL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 59
30 GROWL (NZ) Almond Lee 59
31 HE'S SOMETHING Kim Mayberry 59
32 HEADTURNER John Hawkes 59
33 HONOR IN WAR (USA) Chris Waller 59
34 KERDEM (IRE) David Hayes 59
35 KING OF ASHFORD (NZ) Lee Freedman 59
36 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted 59
37 LEICA FALCON Richard Freyer 59
38 MALDIVIAN (NZ) Mark Kavanagh 59
39 MANDELA (NZ) Richard Yuill 59
40 MARAAHEL (IRE) Michael Stoute 59
41 MARASCO Fred Kersley 59
42 MAYBE BETTER Brian Mayfield-Smith 59
43 MIND YOUR HEAD John Ledger 59
44 MOLOTOV David Hayes 59
45 MONET RULES Leon Corstens 59
46 NICONERO David Hayes 59
47 OLYMPIAN ODYSSEY (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 59
48 OUR LORD MONTY (NZ) Peter Mckenzie 59
49 POMPEII RULER Mick Price 59
50 PRESSING (IRE) Michael Jarvis 59
51 PRINCE ARTHUR Bart Cummings 59
52 RACING TO WIN John O'Shea 59
53 RAILINGS Roger James 59
54 RAMONTI (FR) Saeed Bin Suroor 59
55 RENEWABLE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 59
56 RIVER TIBER (GB) Luca Cumani 59
57 SEAFARER David Hayes 59
58 SEPIA Graeme Rogerson 59
59 SILVER TREE (USA) William Mott 59
60 SIR SLICK (NZ) Graeme Nicholson 59
61 SONIC QUEST Lee Freedman 59
62 SOULACROIX (GB) Lee Freedman 59
63 SPHENOPHYTA (NZ) Lee Freedman 59
64 SPIELMEISTER David Hayes 59
65 STAGE GIFT (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 59
66 SUDAN (IRE) Michael Jarvis 59
67 TAWQEET (USA) David Hayes 59
68 TEMPLE HILLS (NZ) Peter G Moody 59
69 TESTAFIABLE David Kelly 59
70 THE FUZZ (NZ) David Hayes 59
71 UTZON Les Bridge 59
72 VIVA MACAU (FR) John Moore 59
73 VIVA PATACA (GB) John Moore 59
74 WHERE'S THAT TIGER (USA) Gai Waterhouse 59
75 XCELLENT (NZ) Michael Moroney 59
76 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson 59
77 ASSENT Graeme Rogerson 57.5
78 BARLINNIE (NZ) Peter G Moody 57.5
79 BRUT FORCE Graeme Rogerson 57.5
80 BRYANNBO'S GIFT (NZ) Anne-Marie Ruttley 57.5
81 CASINO PRINCE Anthony Cummings 57.5
82 CHINA CAUSEWAY Michael Kent 57.5
83 CLASSIC DE LAGO David Hayes 57.5
84 CUTHBERT SON (NZ) Michael Kent 57.5
85 DANEVER David Hayes 57.5
86 EFFICIENT (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 57.5
87 EMBANK (NZ) Leon Corstens 57.5
88 EMPIRES CHOICE (NZ) Bart Cummings 57.5
89 FIANCHETTO (NZ) Bart Cummings 57.5
90 FIRE IN THE NIGHT Greg Eurell 57.5
91 FIUMICINO (NZ) John Hawkes 57.5
92 GOD'S HAND Bart Cummings 57.5
93 HARADASUN Tony Vasil 57.5
94 JOKERS WILD (NZ) Michael Moroney 57.5
95 KILOTON Robert Pearse 57.5
96 LAZER SHARP David Hayes 57.5
97 MAGIC CAPE (NZ) Shaune Ritchie 57.5
98 MASTERCRAFT Leon Corstens 57.5
99 MEARAS John Hawkes 57.5
100 MENTALITY John Hawkes 57.5
101 METTRE EN JEU (NZ) Lee Freedman 57.5
102 MUSKET John Hawkes 57.5
103 MY MIDDI Theresa Bateup 57.5
104 REIGNING TO WIN John O'Shea 57.5
105 SIR JAMES (NZ) Bart Cummings 57.5
106 SIRMIONE Bart Cummings 57.5
107 SKIDDAW PEAK Michael Moroney 57.5
108 SNIPER'S BULLET Tracey Bartley 57.5
109 STREETFIGHTER Terry Mathrick 57.5
110 TIPUNGWUTI Mark Kavanagh 57.5
111 VAIN CRUSADER Trevor Andrews 57.5
112 VOLCANIC STAR Tom Hughes 57.5
113 WONDERFUL WORLD Bart Cummings 57.5
114 ZUPAONE John Symons & Sheila Laxon 57.5
115 BELLINI ROSE (NZ) Mathew Ellerton 56.5
116 BODACIOUS HARMONY Mark Kavanagh 56.5
117 BROM FELINITY Jim Mason 56.5
118 CINQUE CENTO Peter G Moody 56.5
119 DESERT MOVE (IRE) Lee Freedman 56.5
120 DIVINE MADONNA Mark Kavanagh 56.5
121 GAZE (NZ) Roger James 56.5
122 LA MONTAGNA Barry Baldwin 56.5
123 MALOOSE Michael Kent 56.5
124 OXIGENADA (ARG) David Hayes 56.5
125 PURE HARMONY (NZ) Mick Price 56.5
126 SEACHANGE (NZ) Ralph Manning 56.5
127 SHUAILY (PER) Lee Freedman 56.5
128 TRICK OF LIGHT (GB) Michael Kent 56.5
129 VERCORS (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 56.5
130 ADMIRALOFTHEFLEET (USA) Aidan O'Brien 56
131 SOREADYFORSPRING (USA) David Hayes 56
132 YELLOWSTONE (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 56
133 ANAMATO David Hayes 55
134 BANC DE FORTUNE John Hawkes 55
135 CANCANELLE Robbie Griffiths 55
136 CHEEKY CHOICE Lee Freedman 55
137 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) Michael Moroney 55
138 GALLANT TESS David Payne 55
139 JUST DANCING Grahame Begg 55
140 MASLINS BEACH Anthony Cummings 55
141 MISS FINLAND David Hayes 55
142 PERFECT DROP Guy Walter 55
143 PRINCESS COUP Mark Walker 55
144 TUESDAY JOY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 55
145 UPPER ECHELON John Hawkes 55
146 VORMISTA Mark Minervini 55
147 ABLE TOO Grahame Begg 49.5
148 ALLIED FORCE David Hayes 49.5
149 ALYTAAT (NZ) Mick Price 49.5
150 ARLINGTON Graeme Rogerson 49.5
151 AWAAWA (NZ) John McArdle 49.5
152 CARRY ON DUDE Graeme Rogerson 49.5
153 CECCONI David Hayes 49.5
154 CENT PER CENT Graeme Rogerson 49.5
155 COTHAM Graeme Rogerson 49.5
156 DAVCON Heath Conners 49.5
157 DEBATING (NZ) Clarry Conners 49.5
158 DIPLOMATIC FORCE Wayne Nichols 49.5
159 EL CUENTO Les Ross 49.5
160 EMPERATOR Graeme Rogerson 49.5
161 EQUIVOCAL David Hayes 49.5
162 GENERAL EISENHOWER (NZ) Mick Price 49.5
163 GRAND DANCER (NZ) Bruce Wallace 49.5
164 GUILLOTINE (NZ) David Payne 49.5
165 KRONER (NZ) Bart Cummings 49.5
166 LAP OF HONOR (NZ) David Payne 49.5
167 MANHATTAN MAGIC (NZ) Mick Price 49.5
168 MELD Graeme Rogerson 49.5
169 MEURICE Gai Waterhouse 49.5
170 MORGAN DOLLAR Stuart Gower 49.5
171 MURTAJILL Tim Martin 49.5
172 NEWLY Graeme Rogerson 49.5
173 PROART Shane A Edwards 49.5
174 ROAD TO ROCK Anthony Cummings 49.5
175 SHREWD RHYTHM David Hayes 49.5
176 SIMPLEST Graeme Rogerson 49.5
177 SOLO FLYER Anthony Cummings 49.5
178 TINTERN Graeme Rogerson 49.5
179 TURFFONTEIN Anthony Cummings 49.5
180 ZIZOU David Hayes 49.5
181 APERCU Clarry Conners 47
182 CAMARILLA John Hawkes 47
183 SLEEK CHASSIS David Hayes 47
184 TRESOR Clarry Conners 47

[suds]

starting to think Blue Monday wont be suited MV or the distance (will find it too short)!?

[Chiquita]

1 ADMIRAL'S CRUISE (USA) Brian Meehan 59
2 ANNENKOV (IRE) Peter G Moody 59
3 BLUE MONDAY (GB) David Hayes 59
4 BLUTIGEROO Colin Little 59
5 BON HOFFA Wendy Kelly 59
6 DANE EMPIRE Brian Jenkins 59
7 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little 59
8 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 59
9 GEORGE WASHINGTON (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 59
10 HE'S SOMETHING Kim Mayberry 59
11 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Simon Stout 59
12 LEICA FALCON Richard Freyer 59
13 MALDIVIAN (NZ) Mark Kavanagh 59
14 MANDELA (NZ) Richard Yuill 59
15 MARASCO Fred Kersley 59
16 MAYBE BETTER Brian Mayfield-Smith 59
17 MOLOTOV David Hayes 59
18 MONET RULES Leon Corstens 59
19 NICONERO David Hayes 59
20 RAILINGS Roger James 59
21 RAMONTI (FR) Saeed Bin Suroor 59
22 SEAFARER David Hayes 59
23 SILVER TREE (USA) William Mott 59
24 TAWQEET (USA) David Hayes 59
25 TESTAFIABLE David Kelly 59
26 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson 59
27 CHINA CAUSEWAY Michael Kent 57.5
28 CLASSIC DE LAGO David Hayes 57.5
29 EFFICIENT (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 57.5
30 HARADASUN Tony Vasil 57.5
31 JOKERS WILD (NZ) Michael Moroney 57.5
32 MAGIC CAPE (NZ) Shaune Ritchie 57.5
33 SIRMIONE Bart Cummings 57.5
34 TIPUNGWUTI Mark Kavanagh 57.5
35 WONDERFUL WORLD Bart Cummings 57.5
36 BELLINI ROSE (NZ) Mathew Ellerton 56.5
37 BODACIOUS HARMONY Mark Kavanagh 56.5
38 BROM FELINITY Jim Mason 56.5
39 CINQUE CENTO Peter G Moody 56.5
40 DIVINE MADONNA Mark Kavanagh 56.5
41 GAZE (NZ) Roger James 56.5
42 OXIGENADA (ARG) David Hayes 56.5
43 PURE HARMONY (NZ) Mick Price 56.5
44 SEACHANGE (NZ) Ralph Manning 56.5
45 TRICK OF LIGHT (GB) Michael Kent 56.5
46 YELLOWSTONE (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 56
47 ANAMATO David Hayes 55
48 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) Michael Moroney 55
49 MASLINS BEACH Anthony Cummings 55
50 MISS FINLAND David Hayes 55
51 VORMISTA Mark Minervini 55
52 AWAAWA (NZ) John McArdle 49.5
53 CECCONI David Hayes 49.5
54 DIPLOMATIC FORCE Wayne Nichols 49.5
55 EL CUENTO Les Ross 49.5
56 SHREWD RHYTHM David Hayes 49.5
57 SOLO FLYER Anthony Cummings 49.5
58 TURFFONTEIN Anthony Cummings 49.5
59 APERCU Clarry Conners 47
60 SLEEK CHASSIS David Hayes 47
61 TRESOR Clarry Conners 47

[Chiquita]

I have heard that they are going to refund the money on all the horses that cannot race in the 3 big races because of EI so don't give up hope you might get your money backon Viva Pataca yet as that is the only reason he is not coming out here.

Yep, got my money back [Viva Pataca]

[Sporty]

Me too, thankfully :rolleyes: Had a bit on..

[westman]

MISS FINLAND. 3.50 1.62
EL SEGUNDO. 4.20 1.80
MARASCO. 4.20 1.80
HARADASUN. 7.00 2.50
EFFICIENT. 17.00 5.00
ZIPPING. 17.00 5.00
DIVINE MADONNA. 26.00 7.25
LAD OF THE MANOR. 26.00 7.25
MAYBE BETTER. 26.00 7.25
TIPUNGWUTI. 26.00 7.25
BLUE MONDAY. 35.00 9.50
GEORGE WASHINGTON. 35.00 9.50
RAMONTI. 35.00 9.50
SEACHANGE. 35.00 9.50
TAWQEET. 35.00 9.50
ESKIMO QUEEN. 51.00 13.50
MALDIVIAN. 51.00 13.50
WONDERFUL WORLD. 51.00 13.50
ANAMATO. 71.00 18.50
ANNENKOV. 71.00 18.50
CINQUE CENTO. 71.00 18.50
RAILINGS. 71.00 18.50
SHREWD RHYTHM. 71.00 18.50

[Chuck]

i'm now on the marasco train ;) $4.20 is too good to pass up :)

[westman]

i'm now on the marasco train ;) $4.20 is too good to pass up :)

A true believer!

[whiterhino]

Haradasun in 2.5 points after todays run!!

[maverick1993]

Haradasun in 2.5 points after todays run!!

not sure why,,,i cant see Hara racing any better than that ....
Beadman thought the same thing after the race,,,

[crash]

EL SEGUNDO for sure!

[Raw Instinct]

I would be all over Efficient on yesterdays performance that was sensational another 400m will only help him where alot of the other contenders I feel are somewhat suspect at the trip he is $13w and $4p right now and I feel the only reason for that is the uncertainty of whether he will run in the race, I am starting to think the reason why Steven Arnold is riding this bloke is because the Cox Plate is what they prefer as he wouldn't cop a penalty for taking it out where he would cop one for the Caulfield Cup, Rembering ofcourse that Arnold can't ride a light weight making it almost impossible for him to be riding Maybe Better in the cups.

[Chuck]

yeah, efficients run was a slasher, i'm still unsure what they are aiming him at, but he still looks the goods! i thought the way cinque cento held on after going with activation at that cracking pace was a good sign, but i dont think hes a winning chance, but still could be there for a place in CP/CC.

[sportsmad]

EL SEGUNDO for sure!

ditto!!
ew for the girls...Divine Madonna..

[Matilda]

El Segundo!!! For Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

[thebigguy]

Miss Finland is an absolute special for the Cox Plate!

Cheers

[ijuandaQLD]

Georgey washington if its any chance of coming over if not marasco

[goldeee]

El Segundo
Marasco
Seachange

[thebigguy]

Goldeee what about Miss Finland surely she will run a place?

[StaggerLee]

and what about Haradasun?

[peanutz]

...on todays effort Miss Finland looks to have Marasco's measure

[sportzfan]

under 100/1

MISS FINLAND. $3.00 $1.50
EL SEGUNDO. $4.50 $1.87
HARADASUN. $5.50 $2.12
MARASCO. $6.00 $2.25
EFFICIENT. $11.00 $3.50
ZIPPING. $15.00 $4.50
ESKIMO QUEEN. $17.00 $5.00
SEACHANGE. $26.00 $7.25
CINQUE CENTO. $35.00 $9.50
DIVINE MADONNA. $35.00 $9.50
TIPUNGWUTI. $35.00 $9.50
BLUE MONDAY. $51.00 $13.50
BON HOFFA. $51.00 $13.50
GEORGE WASHINGTON. $51.00 $13.50
LAD OF THE MANOR. $51.00 $13.50
RAMONTI. $51.00 $13.50
WONDERFUL WORLD. $51.00 $13.50
ANNENKOV. $71.00 $18.50
MAYBE BETTER. $71.00 $18.50
NICONERO. $71.00 $18.50

[WAOS]

stood to win heaps on El Segundo last year but was not to be...having another bite this year

Hope you've taken a really big bite...the one they all have to beat

[thebigguy]

I have unloaded on Miss Finland. She looks the goods!

[crash]

MISS FINLAND. $3.00 $1.50
EL SEGUNDO. $4.50 $1.87
HARADASUN. $5.50 $2.12
MARASCO. $6.00 $2.25

I certainly wouldn't be taking any of those early odds. They will be just as good on the day and anything can happen to the horses before the Cox.

[thebigguy]

Crash you make a good point. But I think Miss Finland will start shorter and am willing to take the risk.

Cheers

[crash]

Might start longer too!

[Raw Instinct]

I like Miss Finland and Efficient right now and contrary to alot of thoughts on this race it does look rather weak to me this year as it has been for a few years now, obviously the loss of NSW and QLD horses isn't helping the depth in alot of these races but there really doesn't seem to be alot of hopes in this.

[crash]

Efficient is a 'grinder' more suited to the Cups [especially the Melbourne] I think. Anything winning the Cox will have to be able to unleash a fast finishing 200m sprint. Something Efficient just can't do.

[thebigguy]

Efficent is a special for the Melbourne Cup.


Unload now!

Cheers

[Chiquita]

1 ANNENKOV (IRE) Peter G Moody 59
2 BLUE MONDAY (GB) David Hayes 59
3 BLUTIGEROO Colin Little 59
4 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little 59
5 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 59
6 HE'S SOMETHING Kim Mayberry 59
7 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Simon Stout 59
8 MALDIVIAN (NZ) Mark Kavanagh 59
9 MANDELA (NZ) Richard Yuill 59
10 MARASCO Fred Kersley 59
11 MOLOTOV David Hayes 59
12 NICONERO David Hayes 59
13 RAILINGS Roger James 59
14 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson 59
15 EFFICIENT (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 57.5
16 HARADASUN Tony Vasil 57.5
17 MAGIC CAPE (NZ) Shaune Ritchie 57.5
18 TIPUNGWUTI Mark Kavanagh 57.5
19 WONDERFUL WORLD Bart Cummings 57.5
20 BELLINI ROSE (NZ) Mathew Ellerton 56.5
21 BROM FELINITY Jim Mason 56.5
22 CINQUE CENTO Peter G Moody 56.5
23 DIVINE MADONNA Mark Kavanagh 56.5
24 SEACHANGE (NZ) Ralph Manning 56.5
25 ANAMATO David Hayes 55
26 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) Michael Moroney 55
27 MASLINS BEACH Anthony Cummings 55
28 MISS FINLAND David Hayes 55
29 VORMISTA Mark Minervini 55
30 CECCONI David Hayes 49.5
31 SHREWD RHYTHM David Hayes 49.5
32 SLEEK CHASSIS David Hayes 47

[Raw Instinct]

I disagree to an extent on Efficient he can win this race as I feel everyone of the favs are a massive question mark at 2040m they walked last year that is why El Segundo got so close it wasn't a hard run 2040m if they put the pace on in this race Haradasun, El Segundo and Marasco are absolutely no hope in my opinion.

[pipedream]

2007 COX PLATE (ALL IN)

Description Win Place

MISS FINLAND. $2.80 $1.45
EL SEGUNDO. $4.50 $1.87
HARADASUN. $5.50 $2.12
MARASCO. $6.00 $2.25
EFFICIENT. $11.00 $3.50
ZIPPING. $15.00 $4.50
ESKIMO QUEEN. $21.00 $6.00
MALDIVIAN. $26.00 $7.25
CINQUE CENTO. $35.00 $9.50
DIVINE MADONNA. $35.00 $9.50
SEACHANGE. $35.00 $9.50
TIPUNGWUTI. $35.00 $9.50
WONDERFUL WORLD. $35.00 $9.50
BLUE MONDAY. $51.00 $13.50
LAD OF THE MANOR. $51.00 $13.50
ANNENKOV. $71.00 $18.50
CECCONI. $71.00 $18.50
NICONERO. $71.00 $18.50
ANAMATO. $101.00 $26.00
BLUTIGEROO. $101.00 $26.00
MOLOTOV. $101.00 $26.00
SLEEK CHASSIS. $101.00 $26.00
MANDELA. $151.00 $38.50
RAILINGS. $151.00 $38.50
SHREWD RHYTHM. $151.00 $38.50
VORMISTA. $151.00 $38.50
BROM FELINITY. $201.00 $51.00
GALLIC. $201.00 $51.00
MAGIC CAPE. $201.00 $51.00
BELLINI ROSE. $301.00 $76.00
HES SOMETHING. $301.00 $76.00
MASLINS BEACH. $301.00 $76.00
SOLO FLYER. Refund -
TURFFONTEIN. Refund -

[slowseriousstab]

I thought it was a great run by Miss Finland last start. Her effort to get within coo-ee of the winner at the end was remarkable. El Segundo the danger.

[westman]

Been a lot of talk the chance of Weekend Hussler being a late nom for this race??

[thebigguy]

Miss Finland will have Weekend's measure. She definately looks the goods!

Cheers

[byanose]

Been a lot of talk the chance of Weekend Hussler being a late nom for this race??

from what the trainer has said won't start in the cox

[thebigguy]

Yes I heard that as well. Once again I say Miss Finland is a special.


cheers

[suds]

so thebigguy whats the best odds youve taken?

[thebigguy]

Hi Suds

$3.50

Cheers

[chubby]

doesnt really matter....go EL SEGUNDO!!

[Magivor]

right now i would be climbing over buildings to get $3.50 Missyy Fin, she is a SPESSSSH

[chubby]

...like i said...go EL SEGUNDO!!

[thebigguy]

Sorry Chubby but you may have done you dough. You should consider having a saver wager on Miss Finland.

Cheers

[chubby]

Sorry Chubby but you may have done you dough. You should consider having a saver wager on Miss Finland.

Cheers

…the last time i put all my eggs into one basket the conveyance won easily but was later disqualified when the hoop weighed in light…stood to win heaps….i always have at least one saver…suggest you do likewise [EL SEGUNDO] big fellow:)

[diogenes]

My confident friends, I think you are all in for a surprise! lol

[thebigguy]

I really doubt it there will be a surprise.

Who were you thinking of?

Cheers

[watsonnek]

MARASCO :D

[El Gordo]

after yesterdays performance very surprised if he starts

[crash]

MARASCO :D

A 1600m horse.

[suds]

A 1600m horse.

yep!

[Chrome Prince]

A 1600m horse.

He sure is.
I tipped him as the lay of the day to my barber who's just discovered Betfair.

[Matilda]

I will give Haradasun another chance as I think he lost to the barrier and wide all the way in Turnbull. Zipping and Douro Valley a goodie for Mel Cup and Caul Cup.

[ijuandaQLD]

tough race and one you could call made up of out of form horses after the turnbull. many looked to have chances excepting Haradasun with his tough trip 3 wide the whole way. it just seems to me superstar horses still win from such runs. Devil Moon showed that this prep she is the real deal and showed that her form last prep in adelaide was just the beginning.

cox plate definitely revolves around haradasun, miss finland and devil moon. el segundo was disappointing but always shows up for this race. he needs to win this one and no F.O.O this year. divine madonna i like to i think she could give this a real shake but i dont like her at moonee.

use the ol eeny meeny miny moe technique of picking the winner

[Raw Instinct]

I was huge on Efficient and to be honest I don't know what to make of his last run supposedly he pulled fairly hard as he never got cover or atleast this is what I heard being said by Steven Arnold, I still feel he is as good if ot better than the horses that contested the Turnbull on the weekend the inside was a complete no go zone by that race on the weekend and he was there all the way, I really wonder whether Haradasun was truly disadvantaged by travelling deep in that race as it would have been better to be out there covering some ground than it would have been to be on the fence look where the 1st few across the line came from all down the outside.

[syllabus23]

I was a bit miffed about Efficients performance too.

I spent fifteen years in merchant ships trading worldwide and am no stranger to vaccinations,they invariably make you feel lousy.I think that we are going to see a raft of odd results in the near future.

[go4it]

I find it hard to fathom the big "push" for Efficcient last weekend.It must have been a street corner tip,as every man and his ****** were barking it.
Steve Moran & Alf Matthews both tipped it as a special.
What rot these highly paid morons dish out to punters in the guise they know what they are talking about.
The Turnbull(on paper at least)looked to be a race of many chances,so how anyone could possibly tip any horse in that race as a special is beyond me.
Bryan Martin said(just before they jumped)"this is the race that shapes the Spring."
God help us then.
IMO Efficcient is not and never will be a 2000mtr horse.
Williams has said all along it is being set for the MC,so IMO that wa s a fitness run,any $ picked up would have been a bonus.
Barrier 1 didn't help,as all jockeys knew(it was R7)that the inside was a no go zone.
Steve Arnold had no chance of getting out from that draw,and if you like it for the Cup,forgive it that run.
Sack it at your own risk.
Marasco is obviously sore,but couldn't win a Cox anyway.
Only has a 400 mtr sprint at best,and to win a Cox you have to sustain an 800 mtr run.
Haradasun to beat Miss F for mine.
Devil Moon likely leader,and whilst she is on fire,she aint no Sunline.
Off pace runners usually win the Cox,throw in El SEgundo(forgive his run too,wasn't that bad)I think the winner will come from those 3.
No fancy odds though,especially if Miss F wins this weekend(as expected.)

[crash]

Hard not to agree about Efficient. The horse comes from behind, the race had no pace and the nag ran accordingly. Wait for longer for sure. Devil Moon's owners are paying the $100k fee to get into the Cox and it only has to run 8th [should be there abouts I reckon] to get most of that back.

The pace will be on in the Cox [a truly run race] and a lot of these 'stars' will be nowhere to be seen in the sprint home. Segundo still looks the goods to me as very few mares ever win the Cox which will be a big ask for Miss F.

Marasco will come near last as he's proving to be useless beyond 1600m!

[stugots]

wouldnt think the turnbull will be much of a guide to anything with the track bias playing havoc with many performances

dont fancy haradasun at mooney vally tho, miss f to give em a spanking

[sportzfan]

1 ANNENKOV (IRE) Peter G Moody 59
2 BLUE MONDAY (GB) David Hayes 59
3 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little 59
4 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 59
5 HE'S SOMETHING Kim Mayberry 59
6 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Simon Stout 59
7 MALDIVIAN (NZ) Mark Kavanagh 59
8 MARASCO Fred Kersley 59
9 NICONERO David Hayes 59
10 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson 59
11 EFFICIENT (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 57.5
12 HARADASUN Tony Vasil 57.5
13 MAGIC CAPE (NZ) Shaune Ritchie 57.5
14 WONDERFUL WORLD Bart Cummings 57.5
15 BROM FELINITY Jim Mason 56.5
16 CINQUE CENTO Peter G Moody 56.5
17 DIVINE MADONNA Mark Kavanagh 56.5
18 ANAMATO David Hayes 55
19 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) Michael Moroney 55
20 MISS FINLAND David Hayes 55

[Raw Instinct]

this race is looking more and more open everytime a WFA race is run none of these horses are unbeatable in fact i wouldn't confidently back any of them if i had a horse going anywhere near well enough to be there I would make sure I paid up which I guess is why they are going to pay up for Devil Moon

[sportzfan]

2007 COX PLATE (ALL IN)

Description Win Place

MISS FINLAND $3.50 $1.62
HARADASUN $5.50 $2.12
DEVIL MOON (Not Nom) $5.50 $2.12
EL SEGUNDO $6.50 $2.37
MALDIVIAN $6.50 $2.37
MARASCO $11.00 $3.50
EFFICIENT $12.00 $3.75
DIVINE MADONNA $13.00 $4.00
ZIPPING $21.00 $6.00
ANAMATO $35.00 $9.50
LAD OF THE MANOR $35.00 $9.50
NICONERO $35.00 $9.50
WONDERFUL WORLD $35.00 $9.50
ESKIMO QUEEN $51.00 $13.50
CINQUE CENTO $71.00 $18.50
MAGIC CAPE $71.00 $18.50
ANNENKOV $151.00 $38.50
BLUE MONDAY $151.00 $38.50
BROM FELINITY $301.00 $76.00
GALLIC $301.00 $76.00
HES SOMETHING $301.00 $76.00
SOLO FLYER. Refund -
TURFFONTEIN. Refund -

[maverick1993]

Zipping at 21's the only value i can see...I havent jumped off El Segundo yet and wonder if i can better than the 6.50 on offer at the moment..

[ijuandaQLD]

im confused with miss finland's defeat. she battled to the line well and was obviously never going to win. it looked as thoiugh she just couldnt sprint as quick as maldivian at the end of the race. what oim wondering is what horse has the actual ability to win the plate. on that run she can't. maldivian was many classes above. i think divine madonna has improved with every run and at this stage she would be my tip yet ive mentioned before i dont like her at moonee. i agree with the call on sipping he does look the value and although still decent odds madonna was odds too before yesterdays win. honestly i think Niconero is the horse that is getting set at the right time. but if anyone can confidently tip a horse to run a place you r full of it

[Raw Instinct]

I am happy enough to be on Efficient e/w at $14 he probably won't start at that cox plate day anyway I can't pick anything in the race now anyway so this will be my only bet in the race I feel

[go4it]

I tend to agree with Weekend Husslers trainer,horses that win a Cox Plate are specifically set for the race,not as an afterthought because they are going well.
Williams has said all along that Efficcient was aimed at the MC,not sure about Zipping.
Hayes also said after the weekend defeat that he was dissappointed,but to remember she is being trained to run 2 miles.
You would think that Devil Moon and/or Maldivian(if it runs)will set a good tempo,which could set it up for Haradasun or El Segundo.
Unless Marasco turns things around,I can't see him winning.
I,m going for Haradasun to beat El Segundo.
Roughie
Blue Monday@$151
Good luck whichever way you go.

[sportzfan]

Anyone give the kiwi Magic Cape a chance in the Cox? If a wet track I'll be including.

[WAOS]

Only lightly raced..best distance 1600 but has been placed longer.. excels in the wet as you've suggested..tough ask this class

[westman]

Doubt if the 11/2 will still be available for Maldivian after the CC this Sat

[Northern]

I like El Segundo for the cox plate im going to load up big time on the current place price of $2.28 it loves the valley i cant see it not finishing in the top 3?

[maverick1993]

I agree Northern....i just got 8's for El Segundo for the win and i'm already on Zipping at the 21's...both like the course and have a great chance in this..

[StaggerLee]

EL SEGUNDO
MISS FINLAND
HARADASUN
MARASCO

[suds]

Doubt if the 11/2 will still be available for Maldivian after the CC this Sat

i got on way back..,,regardless of how he goes this sat is a great chance in this..

[diogenes]

I reckon he has a better chance in the Cox, number of runs backing up might beat him tho. Maldivian.

[maverick1993]

I agree Northern....i just got 8's for El Segundo for the win and i'm already on Zipping at the 21's...both like the course and have a great chance in this..

Both looked good in track gallops yesterday..,,,Efficient looked soild aswell..

[Raw Instinct]

Sounds like Efficient will run in the blinkers for the 1st time in the Cox Plate not sure if this is a good or a bad thing only time will tell he did work well in them yesterday certainly kept a nice straight line which was what they were looking for.

[jefff_12]

Barrier draw this morning...
1. El Segundo Colin Little Luke Nolen 7
2. Lad Of The Manor Simon Stout Greg Childs 9
3. Niconero David Hayes Brad Rawiller 10
4. Marasco Fred Kersley Michael Rodd 11
5. Zipping Graeme Rogerson Danny Nikolic 12
6. Haradasun Tony Vasil Damien Oliver 4
7. Efficient Graeme Rogerson Steven Arnold 5
8. Wonderful World Bart Cummings Nash Rawiller 6
9. Magic Cape Shauen Ritchie Blake Shinn 13
10. Divine Madonna Mark Kavanagh 2
11. Miss Finland David Hayes Craig Williams 1
12. Devil Moon Mark Kavanagh Hugh Bowman 3
13. Eskimo Queen Mike Moroney Craig Newitt 8


I think that Devil Moon will get a good run here. Can't see what will apply the pressure here. Although i'm not too sure weather there will be pressure as it is a Cox Plate as there always is, or will this not be the case with a weaker field lacking visiting horses?

Haradasun will be a good run in behind the speed.

And I think Efficient will put in a much better run this time. He is a zabeel with the blinkers going on and has been working really well during the week.

[basilsbets]

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little L Nolen 7 59
2 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Simon Stout G Childs 9 59
3 NICONERO David Hayes B Rawiller 10 59
4 MARASCO Fred Kersley M Rodd 11 59
5 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson D Nikolic 12 59
6 HARADASUN Tony Vasil D Oliver 4 57.5
7 EFFICIENT (NZ) Graeme Rogerson S W Arnold 5 57.5
8 WONDERFUL WORLD Bart Cummings N Rawiller 6 57.5
9 MAGIC CAPE (NZ) Shaune Ritchie B Shinn 13 57.5
10 DIVINE MADONNA Mark Kavanagh G Boss 2 56.5
11 MISS FINLAND David Hayes C Williams 1 55
12 DEVIL MOON Mark Kavanagh H Bowman 3 55
13 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) Michael Moroney C Newitt 8 55

[basilsbets]

12-Devil Moon
11-Miss Finland
1-El Segundo
6-Haradasun
4-Marasco

[crash]

I need some rose coloured glasses for this one and they are hard to find!

Haradasun is doing better than El Segundo [needs blinkers].

[Horse Whisperer]

really like Haradasun in this, seems to be going pretty good.

Ill give rough chances to Wonderful World, Niconero and Lad of the Manor.

[Raw Instinct]

Haradasun, Devil Moon and Wonderful World will probably go forward Zipping wouldn't shock me either if it goes forward in this as I believe it has around his distance range in the past. This will not be a hard run race but the last 1000-800 is usally intense enough to give everything a chance to run on, Efficient might suffer from this but I still feel he is good enough to win this race and drew the perfect barrier for him gives him the chance to pull to the outside without being cluttered up behind horses I just hope Arnold is patient cause it is amazing how many times horses get run down in this race when they go for home to soon

[Chuck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6It079ecPU

great clip, has just about all the Cox Plates in the 70s and 80s... some absolute classics in there....surround, kingston town, dulcify, bonecrusher, red anchor etc.

[mjr]

I too like Haradasun,but I think his biggest problem will be Oliver he doesnt seem to be steering to well at the moment, just hope he gets back to his brilliant best on saturday.

[maverick1993]

El Segundo really slingshots the turn here and the short straight helps him,,he also doesnt need the speed on to show this dash either,, ..i really like him and at the 8s i'm very confident..

Zipping you would think would have to do a DIva and go the carpark route ,,but he'll get on the back of something and does like the track,,he's runs of late look better than efficients..i'm already on at the 21's but i'm having alittle extra on the 34's that you can get now..

Miss Finland,,she'll have to take advantage of the draw,,i kind of like her against the rail here as Williams has had trouble keeping her straight,,,,without doing to much work she might show that dash of old,,personally i think shes been trained to get the ground this prep and of course has lost that sprint..Shes got to much class not to atleast get a place here but will need alot of luck..

Devil Moon,,,cant argue the form,,wouldnt be getting to excited about her last run but she is the likely leader and could get a few cheap sectionals..

Haradasun...now i think hes the biggest danger to El...he'll be forward and might get the best of run of anything,,,,,best chance is if he can get the one/one and stay on the rails and not go around a horse..hes been set for this race as is El and its these types that usually win the hardest race on the Calendar..i'm not usually a saver kind of guy but ias has him at 6's so it makes sense to back him..

Efficient now with the blinkers is interesting,,i really think he needs the miracle gaps to appear but you know Loyd really wants this badly and is using his only ace here with the gear change,,,personally i think he needs more of straight to catch these but should run into the money..

These my top 6....

[POSEIDON]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6It079ecPU

great clip, has just about all the Cox Plates in the 70s and 80s... some absolute classics in there....surround, kingston town, dulcify, bonecrusher, red anchor etc.

magik! thanks chuck!

[Raw Instinct]

Mav I agree Efficients last run was ordinary but there were excuses and that track was disgusting that day, His run before was a ball tearer behind El Segundo and Haradasun over a mile which doesn't suit him at all he has won at 2040m (Albeit against 3yo) likes the valley as I feel he likes the cut out of the ground a bit.

My top few right now are

Efficient
Devil Moon (I do query her a bit at the distance got all favors last start)
El Segundo
Lad of the Manor (he might be my little E/W saver this weekend in the race)
Miss Finland (I think she might get cluttered up LOTM when Makybe won)
Marasco (I think he is better than Haradasun personally I could be wrong have been before)

[mugpunter]

what do you guys think of niconeros chances, it was a great run behind DM and if he can get a nice position and can pounce on the turn i think he is a chance, he has won at group one level at 1800m and at 8.55 the place I think he is a value runner

[crash]

Efficient [blinkers] w

Haradasun
El Segundo [needs blinkers]
Divine Madonna
Niconero [running well and the smokey]
Miss Finland

This is a hard one. I'll be going for value after the draw and I think Efficient [b5] is good value who's run in the Turnbull should be ignored. He had a hit-out with blinkers first time against stablemate Zipping last Sat. at the Valley and apparently even impressed old Bart.

Haradasun has drawn well in b4 and this is the race he has been set for and is a good wining chance. Should take up a forward slot close to the obvious and only leader Devil Moon [suss at the distance]. I'll throw Haradasun into my multiples though as I think he will be too short for a win bet for me.

Miss Finland with b1 certainly doesn't deserve to start fav. She is really going to cop it from there and will be ridden for luck hoping to set up for a good run from the 800m.

Divine Madonna will get a fair way back but should come home like a train with Efficient, so I put her in my multiples too.

[Real Deal]

As always in the week leading up to the race you hear the whispers....

I have just got off phone with a close mate of mine who does a bit of fill in work during the spring carnival for some trainers, all he could talk about was Marasco, and how well he handled the valley at his gallop and how impressed Kersley is with him. He promised the info was straight from the strapper and they are quietly confident of a big, big showing.

I may have a little on him, but will definately be putting him in my multiples.

[crash]

Geez, your not listening to coat-tuggers are ya' Real Deal?

If Marasco wants to win the Cox Plate, it better start now!

[Matilda]

Hi all,

What is the weather forecast like. Do advise. Thanks.

[crash]

Fine/18 degrees and a dead 4

[Matilda]

Thanks crash. Long value bet will be on Zipping....I thought Magic Cape run behind Princess Coup was a good one. Might put him in the tri....hi hi...With El and Haradasun. Maybe a box of 5 with Devil Moon. I have a feeling that Miss Finland cannot win due to B1 and also she never win on MV and distance wise is only average (3-1-1-0).

[Chuck]

i've said all year that any horse that was beaten last year by a 9 year old trundler Fields of Omagh cannot win it this year so that rules out El Segundo and Miss Finland for me

[sportzfan]

MISS FINLAND $3.80 $1.62
HARADASUN $5.00 $1.88
EL SEGUNDO $5.50 $2.00
DEVIL MOON $6.00 $2.11
EFFICIENT $9.00 $2.77
DIVINE MADONNA $13.00 $3.66
MARASCO $14.00 $3.88
ZIPPING $26.00 $6.55
ESKIMO QUEEN $35.00 $8.55
LAD OF THE MANOR $35.00 $8.55
NICONERO $35.00 $8.55
WONDERFUL WORLD $35.00 $8.55
MAGIC CAPE $101.00 $23.22

[eagle1]

El Segundo / Devil Moon
El loves the track..cherry ripe for this
Devil in best form of career..on the up
Marasco last run too bad to be true..can't leave out

[eagle1]

Eskimo Queen my outsider

[mugpunter]

I'm off to bali with the winnings..

$100 e/w on lad of the manor

[grey sapphire]

4 MARASCO
11 MISS FINLAND
1 EL SEGUNDO
12 DEVIL MOON

[darkydog2002]

12 - 7 - 10 - 6

Minimum acceptable price = $5.00

Cheers.
darky.

ps.Take MV R 2 H 3 + 9 for a punting bank for the COX .

[brave chief]

i've said all year that any horse that was beaten last year by a 9 year old trundler Fields of Omagh cannot win it this year so that rules out El Segundo and Miss Finland for me

that "9yo trundler" has a record of 2 wins, a 2nd & a 3rd in Cox Plates. Ran 2nd to champ Northerly in a Caulfield Cup, as well as numerous WFA races.

El Segundo
Wonderful World
Miss Finland

[Gerry]

My ratings and prices for the Plate.

11 Miss Finland*** 68 $3.00
12 Devil Moon 66 $5.30
6 haradasun 65.3 $6.80
10 Divine madonna 64.8 $8.20
1 El Segundo 62.7 $19.60
4 marasco 62.2 $24.90
3 Niconero 62 $27.30
8 Wonderful world 61.5 $34.40
5 Zipping 60.6 $52.70
9 magic cape 60.5 $55.30
2 lad of the manor 58.5 $100.00
7 Efficient 57.4 $100.00
13 Eskimo Queen 52 $100.00

Gerry

[Raw Instinct]

alot of speed on there they sprinted from the 600 and the 1st 5 round the corner finished in the 1st 5 joke of a race really

[Merriguy]

I'm off to bali with the winnings..

$100 e/w on lad of the manorSwimming, I presume! lol

I'm on Flash Trick for the Jayco MILE.

[diogenes]

Congrats to EL + WW called punter few posts back, tooo drunk to 'member nick.
Jumped all over El segundo and am very very happy for C Little.
And me.
Awaiting Pnatanny for last leg of all up, but already very happy with day.

[maverick1993]

Missed WW and kicking myself as he was always going to get a good run....
Happy with my assessment and after last years nose defeat i don't think i would have recovered if he got beat...
EL was never a doubt today..
thought Zipping was good off the slow tempo..,,prob the best run for a MC perspective..

[eddie72]

9th August 2007, 09:23 AM, I'm a big fan of El Segundo for the Cox. Don't mind Pompeii Ruler either.

In the end just the one bet, EL $9.00

[maverick1993]

anyone think Haradasun and Ollie went to the front to early ?? i know he was 3 wide but at that tempo you can get away with that,,,thought theres was a few jockeys that might have tried to altleast travel into the race earlier and give themselves a chance..

[Horse Whisperer]

i think its hard to tell what the right move was mav, do you think either way haradasun would have been able to hold out el segundo?

[maverick1993]

None there that can match Els sprint and your right,,,
just think that the jockeys knew what tempo they were jogging at and didnt give themselves a chance at all..

Heard today on tvn that they are saying we have to rate Fieldsy higher but i'm still adamant as obviously the connections are that DG's lack of vigour the last 50m cost him last year......(yes i'm building that bridge)

Cant believe Nolen 11 meets !! wow misses a stack of racing including the MC...didnt look that severe to me...

[brave chief]

11 meetings indeed...

totally rediculous suspension....appeal the severity surely

[mugpunter]

Swimming, I presume! lol

I'm on Flash Trick for the Jayco MILE.

its the bombing season anyway this time of year was probably for the best

[chubby]

doesnt really matter....go EL SEGUNDO!!
right now i would be climbing over buildings to get $3.50 Missyy Fin, she is a SPESSSSH
...like i said...go EL SEGUNDO!!
Sorry Chubby but you may have done you dough. You should consider having a saver wager on Miss Finland.
My confident friends, I think you are all in for a surprise! lol

dont you just luv it when youre right ;)