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Sportz
1st October 2007, 02:09 PM
Monday, October 1

CHEL 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 2 THE PINK PANZER
21 . $4.8 . 3 TO A FAULT
19 . $5.3 . 8 PORT REGIS
12 . $8.3 . 5 CENTRE STREAK
10 . $10.0 . 4 PADTHEWAY
4 . $25.0 . 10 CANHEDANCE
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1 . $100.0 . 13 CONQUEST OF ARMS
1 . $100.0 . 9 ELMONDO
1 . $100.0 . 7 TUG BOAT TED
1 . $100.0 . 12 FIERY LITTLE DEVIL

C/W RT: 2 THE PINK PANZER ( 2-8-5-3 )
FRM RT: 3 TO A FAULT ( 3-2-5-4 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,4,5,8 ) OR ( 2,3,8 – 2,3,4,5,8,10 )



BELM 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
31 . $3.2 . 2 ELIXAAR
22 . $4.5 . 3 DANE LA BELLE
18 . $5.6 . 4 MAGICAL BELLE
14 . $7.1 . 6 DAUGHTER'S DEMAND
8 . $12.5 . 5 VALPOLICELLA
4 . $25.0 . 7 BLACK HABIT
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2 . $50.0 . 1 NEIGE
1 . $100.0 . 8 FIGHTING PEGASUS

C/W RT: 2 ELIXAAR ( 2-3-4-6 )
FRM RT: 2 ELIXAAR ( 2-3-4-7 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,4,5,6 ) OR ( 2,3,4 – 2,3,4,5,6,7 )



BELM 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
41 . $2.4 . 3 REVY JAY
25 . $4.0 . 5 MARINE DRIVE
20 . $5.0 . 6 AERIAL MUSTER
6 . $16.7 . 7 DESERT ACE
4 . $25.0 . 2 JAMES THE JET
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3 . $33.3 . 4 COMMANDEER
1 . $100.0 . 9 HOOKS REASON

C/W RT: 3 REVY JAY ( 3-6-5-7 )
FRM RT: 3 REVY JAY ( 3-5-6-7 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,5,6,7 ) OR ( 3,5,6 – 2,3,4,5,6,7 )



BELM 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
42 . $2.4 . 13 WITH THIS RING
16 . $6.3 . 8 BLUFF POINT
15 . $6.7 . 1 CANNY JACK
11 . $9.1 . 7 THE KID
7 . $14.3 . 5 BLAZING ICON
4 . $25.0 . 4 BOAB
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2 . $50.0 . 2 JACKASS
2 . $50.0 . 6 KENANAS
1 . $100.0 . 11 LE BON JEUNE

C/W RT: 13 WITH THIS RING ( 13-8-1-7 )
FRM RT: 13 WITH THIS RING ( 13-1-7-8 )
MULTIS: ( 1,5,7,8,13 ) OR ( 1,8,13 – 1,4,5,7,8,13 )



BELM 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
32 . $3.1 . 3 CHINA VISIT
19 . $5.3 . 8 EL SARIE
12 . $8.3 . 1 AMICI
12 . $8.3 . 2 GANGWAY
7 . $14.3 . 11 PUT OPTION
7 . $14.3 . 4 ARMIDALE AVENUE
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3 . $33.3 . 12 STARSEEKER
3 . $33.3 . 9 LOTTABIZ
2 . $50.0 . 6 MR YAMAGUCHI
1 . $100.0 . 7 THAT MANN LEO
1 . $100.0 . 10 NAWAAF

C/W RT: 3 CHINA VISIT ( 3-8-2-4 )
FRM RT: 3 CHINA VISIT ( 3-1-2-8 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,8,11 ) OR ( 3,8 – 1,2,3,4,8,11,12 )



BELM 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 8 EL PRESIDENTE
21 . $4.8 . 2 LORD BAUMAY
12 . $8.3 . 6 FRENCH FAVORITE
12 . $8.3 . 5 SCOPACIRI
10 . $10.0 . 7 WESTERLY BREEZE
7 . $14.3 . 1 FIMMO'S CROWN
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5 . $20.0 . 3 FOXY BOY
2 . $50.0 . 4 ANOTHER MAK

C/W RT: 2 LORD BAUMAY ( 2-8-7-1 )
FRM RT: 8 EL PRESIDENTE * ( 8-6-5-2 )
MULTIS: ( 2,5,6,7,8 ) OR ( 2,8 – 1,2,3,5,6,7,8 )

Sportz
1st October 2007, 06:53 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

CHEL 6
3 TO A FAULT 6.90 2.10
2 THE PINK PANZER 1.40
8 PORT REGIS 2.00

QN 2*3 7.80
TF 3*2*8 89.70
F4 3*2*8*12 1740.00



BELM 3
4 MAGICAL BELLE 3.20 1.40
6 DAUGHTER'S DEMAND 2.00
2 ELIXAAR 1.80

QN 4*6 12.20
TF 4*6*2 89.10
F4 4*6*2*3 198.00



BELM 4
7 DESERT ACE 9.00 1.80
5 MARINE DRIVE 1.50
3 REVY JAY 1.30

QN 5*7 21.10
TF 7*5*3 127.50
F4 7*5*3*6 321.20



BELM 5
8 BLUFF POINT 6.50 1.70
1 CANNY JACK 2.00
2 JACKASS 3.30

QN 1*8 25.00
TF 8*1*2 223.00
F4 8*1*2*13 832.00



BELM 6
12 STARSEEKER 6.20 2.00
8 EL SARIE 2.10
4 ARMIDALE AVENUE 3.40

QN 8*12 15.80
TF 12*8*4 242.70
F4 12*8*4*1 2506.80



BELM 9
8 EL PRESIDENTE 2.70 1.30
2 LORD BAUMAY 3.00
13 MR WISBY 14.70

QN 2*8 12.00
TF 8*2*13 541.10
F4 8*2*13*6 1975.00

Sportz
3rd October 2007, 01:33 PM
Wednesday, October 3

SEYM 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
30 . $3.3 . 2 CHOLULA
25 . $4.0 . 1 ZAVITE
21 . $4.8 . 8 MASTERCRAFT
10 . $10.0 . 7 HE'S SOMETHING
8 . $12.5 . 3 AFTERSHOCK
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4 . $25.0 . 5 HIGH COSTALANA
2 . $50.0 . 9 PRINCE VITALITY
1 . $100.0 . 4 DANERETTE

C/W RT: 1 ZAVITE ( 1-2-8-3 )
FRM RT: 2 CHOLULA ( 2-8-1-7 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,7,8 ) OR ( 1,2,8 – 1,2,3,5,7,8 )



SEYM 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 1 ART HOUSE
30 . $3.3 . 7 GOTTA HAVE HEART
11 . $9.1 . 12 MAKEADREAMCOMETRUE
7 . $14.3 . 13 O'PERFECT ONE
5 . $20.0 . 9 RECORD
5 . $20.0 . 4 REGAL CHIVAS
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4 . $25.0 . 10 BAREFOOT MARVEL
2 . $50.0 . 8 O'REILLY'S CLOCK
2 . $50.0 . 3 OLD SONGS
2 . $50.0 . 2 BOULTON

C/W RT: 1 ART HOUSE ( 1-7-12-4 )
FRM RT: 7 GOTTA HAVE HEART * ( 7-1-12-13 )
MULTIS: ( 1,7,9,12,13 ) OR ( 1,7 – 1,4,7,9,10,12,13 )



SEYM 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
48 . $2.1 . 3 WHO'S YA DADDY
15 . $6.7 . 2 STEDMAN
14 . $7.1 . 4 MASKED AVENGER
10 . $10.0 . 1 BRUNELLESCHI
9 . $11.1 . 6 HELLS LANE
4 . $25.0 . 5 TESTALUX
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2 . $50.0 . 8 LIL' CESNA

C/W RT: 3 WHO'S YA DADDY ( 3-4-6-2 )
FRM RT: 3 WHO'S YA DADDY * ( 3-2-1-4 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,4,6 ) OR ( 2,3 – 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 )



SEYM 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 10 WILD ONE
21 . $4.8 . 4 WHAT'S THE TIME
13 . $7.7 . 5 BEEHIVES
10 . $10.0 . 6 GEE UP
7 . $14.3 . 7 ROSLOTTA
7 . $14.3 . 3 KINGS FAREWELL
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3 . $33.3 . 11 ASK THE MUSIC
2 . $50.0 . 12 WRENCHER
2 . $50.0 . 1 APPIAN WAY
2 . $50.0 . 8 ESCAPE ARTIST

C/W RT: 4 WHAT'S THE TIME ( 4-10-6-5 )
FRM RT: 10 WILD ONE * ( 10-4-5-7 )
MULTIS: ( 4,5,6,7,10 ) OR ( 4,10 – 3,4,5,6,7,10,11 )

Sportz
3rd October 2007, 06:30 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

SEYM 4
1 ZAVITE 7.00 2.10
7 HE'S SOMETHING 2.20
2 CHOLULA 1.50

QN 1*7 18.70
TF 1*7*2 145.40
F4 1*7*2*8 467.20



SEYM 5
7 GOTTA HAVE HEART 2.60 1.40
13 O'PERFECT ONE 2.50
1 ART HOUSE 1.50

QN 7*13 17.30
TF 7*13*1 81.40
F4 7*13*1*4 751.40



SEYM 6
2 STEDMAN 5.60 1.80
3 WHO'S YA DADDY 1.30
5 TESTALUX 2.30

QN 2*3 7.10
TF 2*3*5 82.50
F4 2*3*5*6 385.20



SEYM 7
10 WILD ONE 2.50 1.50
6 GEE UP 2.40
12 WRENCHER 3.70

QN 6*10 14.40
TF 10*6*12 161.80
F4 10*6*12*11 1185.60

Sportz
6th October 2007, 12:57 PM
Saturday, October 6

HAST, NZ (KELT CAPITAL STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
37 . $2.7 . 5 SEACHANGE
17 . $5.9 . 9 PRINCESS COUP
11 . $9.1 . 2 SIR SLICK
11 . $9.1 . 3 MANDELA
7 . $14.3 . 1 RAILINGS
6 . $16.7 . 14 THE POOKA
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4 . $25.0 . 6 GAZE
2 . $50.0 . 13 J'ADANE
2 . $50.0 . 12 VELOCE BELLA
2 . $50.0 . 10 SPLASHING OUT
2 . $50.0 . 7 OMBRE ROSE
1 . $100.0 . 4 MAGIC CAPE

C/W RT: 5 SEACHANGE ( 5-3-1-9 )
FRM RT: 5 SEACHANGE ( 5-9-2-6 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,5,9 ) OR ( 5,9 – 1,2,3,5,6,9,14 )



ROCK 8
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 3 HARLEY GEORGE
29 . $3.4 . 6 SCHAHRIAR
20 . $5.0 . 1 DON'T TELL TOM
12 . $8.3 . 2 FASTNESS
3 . $33.3 . 5 ROYAL RULE
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2 . $50.0 . 7 DELICATA
2 . $50.0 . 8 ROSIELEE MISS

C/W RT: 6 SCHAHRIAR ( 6-1-3-2 )
FRM RT: 3 HARLEY GEORGE * ( 3-6-1-2 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,6 ) OR ( 3,6 – 1,2,3,5,6 )



ROCK 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 3 GO THE RED
27 . $3.7 . 4 MILORA MISS
16 . $6.3 . 2 CALL SECURITY
6 . $16.7 . 5 SEQUALO BLUE
4 . $25.0 . 9 CROSSING
4 . $25.0 . 1 RACETRACK
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2 . $50.0 . 6 ANNSMAN
2 . $50.0 . 10 EXCITUM
1 . $100.0 . 8 HANDY HERO

C/W RT: 3 GO THE RED ( 3-4-2-5 )
FRM RT: 3 GO THE RED ( 3-4-2-9 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,4,5,9 ) OR ( 2,3,4 – 1,2,3,4,5,9 )




FLEM 3 (CONCEPT SPORTS STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 2 PINS ON PARADE
26 . $3.8 . 3 PIT LANE
21 . $4.8 . 4 ON THE WARPATH
7 . $14.3 . 1 HUSSON LIGHTNING
6 . $16.7 . 6 NINE TALES
5 . $20.0 . 7 DANE THE RAVE
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2 . $50.0 . 12 MOTONARI

C/W RT: 2 PINS ON PARADE * ( 2-3-4-1 )
FRM RT: 4 ON THE WARPATH ( 4-3-2-6 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,4,6 ) OR ( 2,3,4 – 1,2,3,4,6,7 )



FLEM 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 12 SUNBURNT LAND
25 . $4.0 . 10 TEARS I CRY
19 . $5.3 . 9 SKIDDAW PEAK
10 . $10.0 . 1 SIRMIONE
5 . $20.0 . 6 RED FOR LOU
5 . $20.0 . 5 DANEVER
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4 . $25.0 . 2 BLAHNIK
4 . $25.0 . 3 STAMEN
2 . $50.0 . 4 HASSLE
1 . $100.0 . 13 HOODLUM
1 . $100.0 . 11 CAPTAIN IN CHARGE
1 . $100.0 . 8 BALLACK

C/W RT: 9 SKIDDAW PEAK ( 9-10-12-1 )
FRM RT: 12 SUNBURNT LAND ( 12-10-9-1 )
MULTIS: ( 1,6,9,10,12 ) OR ( 9,10,12 – 1,5,6,9,10,12 )



FLEM 6 (UCI STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
42 . $2.4 . 12 VORMISTA
24 . $4.2 . 3 MASLINS BEACH
11 . $9.1 . 10 MALOOSE
5 . $20.0 . 14 SURFSIDE CHRISTMAS
4 . $25.0 . 4 HIDDEN STRINGS
3 . $33.3 . 17 OXIGENADA
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2 . $50.0 . 9 BELLINI ROSE
2 . $50.0 . 5 EVILWEB
2 . $50.0 . 1 LIKE IT IS
2 . $50.0 . 7 DYNA MYTA
2 . $50.0 . 6 SOVEREIGN MISS
1 . $100.0 . 2 EL PAUJI

C/W RT: 12 VORMISTA * ( 12-10-3-17 )
FRM RT: 3 MASLINS BEACH ( 3-12-14-4 )
MULTIS: ( 3,4,10,12,14 ) OR ( 3,12 – 3,4,9,10,12,14,17 )



FLEM 8 (TURNBULL STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
24 . $4.2 . 6 MARASCO
24 . $4.2 . 5 HARADASUN
18 . $5.6 . 2 EL SEGUNDO
15 . $6.7 . 9 EFFICIENT
5 . $20.0 . 15 ESKIMO QUEEN
5 . $20.0 . 11 CINQUE CENTO
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4 . $25.0 . 14 DEVIL MOON
4 . $25.0 . 8 ZIPPING
2 . $50.0 . 13 MOLOTOV

C/W RT: 5 HARADASUN / 6 MARASCO ( 5/6-2-14 )
FRM RT: 9 EFFICIENT ( 9-2-15-11 )
MULTIS: ( 2,5,6,9,15 ) OR ( 2,5,6 – 2,5,6,9,11,15 )



FLEM 10
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 9 FAMILY GUY
12 . $8.3 . 11 OKAY OKY
11 . $9.1 . 2 OUR APACHE
10 . $10.0 . 1 FLASH TRICK
10 . $10.0 . 4 CAPRIZZI STRIP
8 . $12.5 . 8 ELBRUS
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5 . $20.0 . 6 AMYJAYE POWER
5 . $20.0 . 12 PERMAISCUOUS
1 . $100.0 . 3 BIANOMOUR

C/W RT: 9 FAMILY GUY ( 9-2-1-4 )
FRM RT: 9 FAMILY GUY * ( 9-11-8-4 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,4,9,11 ) OR ( 9,11 – 1,2,4,6,8,9,11 )



MORP 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
50 . $2.0 . 5 ELA YE MOU
21 . $4.8 . 1 FINNISS D'OR
7 . $14.3 . 8 NISHA
5 . $20.0 . 7 PINK BAY
5 . $20.0 . 14 AKHA VENTURE
4 . $25.0 . 4 SILK WIND
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3 . $33.3 . 2 ROYAL PLAYER
3 . $33.3 . 3 POLYNESIAN
3 . $33.3 . 11 KENDALAY

C/W RT: 5 ELA YE MOU * ( 5-1-4-8 )
FRM RT: 5 ELA YE MOU * ( 5-1-8-14 )
MULTIS: ( 1,5,7,8,14 ) OR ( 1,5 – 1,2,4,5,7,8,14 )



BELM 2
RT . ODDS . HORSE
50 . $2.0 . 1 PERESTROIKA
22 . $4.5 . 2 BRAVE KNIGHT
10 . $10.0 . 8 PRICE FIX
9 . $11.1 . 3 AMBERLYN
5 . $20.0 . 7 DEED I DO
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4 . $25.0 . 4 LEICA JET
2 . $50.0 . 6 KILINDINI
2 . $50.0 . 9 SILVER OMEN

C/W RT: 1 PERESTROIKA * ( 1-2-3-8 )
FRM RT: 1 PERESTROIKA * ( 1-2-8-7 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,7,8 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,4,6,7,8 )



BELM 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
30 . $3.3 . 4 FAR HORIZONS
24 . $4.2 . 8 LACERATE
20 . $5.0 . 2 DIAMOND GREY
11 . $9.1 . 1 WIRE DETONATOR
8 . $12.5 . 9 MAXXIMUS DIGNITAS
4 . $25.0 . 7 FIM MARU
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3 . $33.3 . 6 BOLD RANSOM

C/W RT: 4 FAR HORIZONS ( 4-3-2-8 )
FRM RT: 8 LACERATE ( 8-4-1-2 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,4,8,9 ) OR ( 2,4,8 – 1,2,4,7,8,9 )



BELM 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 6 KEYTON GRACE
25 . $4.0 . 4 BEAT THE STORM
15 . $6.7 . 11 MANSION HOUSE
10 . $10.0 . 12 WEST RIVER CHARLEY
9 . $11.1 . 1 ARCTIC PARK
8 . $12.5 . 5 COOL FRONT
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4 . $25.0 . 7 STORMED OUT
3 . $33.3 . 2 DAKA'S GEM
2 . $50.0 . 10 INNOVATION
1 . $100.0 . 3 GRASSPATCH GIRL

C/W RT: 4 BEAT THE STORM ( 4-12-5-11 )
FRM RT: 6 KEYTON GRACE * ( 6-4-11-1 )
MULTIS: ( 1,4,6,11,12 ) OR ( 4,6,11 – 1,4,5,6,11,12 )

Sportz
6th October 2007, 01:26 PM
Very disappointed in myself for rating Race 3 at Flemington. It's just the sort of race I would usually leave alone. In any case, computer troubles meant I didn't post the ratings until the race was almost set to jump, so I assume nobody got to use the ratings for that race. Certainly hope so anyway, :o

darkydog2002
6th October 2007, 01:27 PM
Just a question SPORTZ.

Why do you or anyone else for that matter bother posting ratings or tips as you get no thanks nor any feedback.

Cheers.
darky.

Sportz
6th October 2007, 02:16 PM
Yeah, sometimes I wonder if I'm just doing them for myself, because of the lack of feedback. I'm sure somebody must use the ratings though, and hopefully, they get something out of them.

Actually, today might be one of those days when I wish nobody did see them. :o

darkydog2002
6th October 2007, 02:37 PM
Yeah .Its a wasted effort really.

On another forum I replied to a few drongoes talking about making $50,000 a year on a $100,000 bank.

Get real I said.Its alright to dream such nonsense BUT get out into the REAL world of punting and its a very different story.

Good luck with the rest of the day SPORTZ.

Cheers.
darky

Matilda
6th October 2007, 03:10 PM
Sportz, dont worry, I enjoy it very much. I always look forward for your rating and tips. Go Zipping....

Zipping-Haradasun for 1st/2nd with field for 3rd....Hi hi...finger crossed.

Sportz
6th October 2007, 03:29 PM
Good luck with it. That race was extremely tough for the ratings to sort out. Wouldn't be at all surprised if something outside the top raters (like Zipping) won it.

darkydog2002
6th October 2007, 04:06 PM
I will stick my neck out and go for 4 - 8 - 2 - 14 - 11

Any and all at $6.00 +

darky.

Sportz
6th October 2007, 04:31 PM
Good luck with it. That race was extremely tough for the ratings to sort out. Wouldn't be at all surprised if something outside the top raters (like Zipping) won it.

Just as I suspected. Personally, I didn't bet in the race because it was just too tough, but I thought Devil Moon had a chance.

First 4 paid $158,000 here in Qld. :eek:

darkydog2002
6th October 2007, 04:35 PM
Nice pick up at $16.00 IAS.

Cheers.
darky.

Sportz
6th October 2007, 04:38 PM
Well done.

Matilda
6th October 2007, 04:44 PM
Wow, upside down for Cox Plate and Caulfield Cup!!!! Miss Finland will be more solid favourite now!!!

Sportz
6th October 2007, 04:55 PM
Not a good day for the ratings today. :o

Have had very little success in the races I posted. Meanwhile, 3 races that I decided to leave out would have all produced good results including a $5000 first 4!!! Damn!

Sportz
6th October 2007, 07:12 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

HAST 9
9 PRINCESS COUP 6.60 2.10
13 J'ADANE 3.60
4 MAGIC CAPE 8.00

QN 9*13 56.20
TF 9*13*4 1887.70
F4 9*13*4*5 27058.20



ROCK 8
3 HARLEY GEORGE 2.00 1.20
1 DON'T TELL TOM 1.50
2 FASTNESS 1.90

QN 1*3 3.30
TF 3*1*2 19.50
F4 3*1*2*6 40.60



ROCK 9
3 GO THE RED 2.30 1.50
4 MILORA MISS 1.60
1 RACETRACK 4.20

QN 3*4 4.30
TF 3*4*1 76.80
F4 3*4*1*10 945.40



FLEM 3
10 DANDY DOLLAR 57.70 13.10
1 HUSSON LIGHTNING 3.50
3 PIT LANE 1.70

QN 1*10 355.00
TF 10*1*3 3987.50
F4 10*1*3*9 35394.20



FLEM 5
6 RED FOR LOU 7.60 2.20
13 HOODLUM 12.00
12 SUNBURNT LAND 1.60

QN 6*13 243.30
TF 6*13*12 2018.40
F4 6*13*12*10 7878.40



FLEM 6
12 VORMISTA 3.00 1.60
9 BELLINI ROSE 3.10
2 EL PAUJI 17.10

QN 9*12 17.10
TF 12*9*2 1096.90
F4 12*9*2*1 6697.40



FLEM 8
14 DEVIL MOON 13.60 4.00
10 SCENIC SHOT 26.80
5 HARADASUN 1.80

QN 10*14 873.50
TF 14*10*5 7877.30
F4 14*10*5*12 158690.20



FLEM 10
7 ARBITRATION 49.00 10.00
6 AMYJAYE POWER 1.70
13 HARVARD 5.50

QN 6*7 107.40
TF 7*6*13 4065.90
F4 7*6*13*1 98974.40



MORP 7
2 ROYAL PLAYER 13.30 3.10
11 KENDALAY 4.80
5 ELA YE MOU 1.00

QN 2*11 147.70
TF 2*11*5 686.40
F4 2*11*5*7 7122.40



BELM 2
1 PERESTROIKA 2.00 1.40
7 DEED I DO 4.50
6 KILINDINI 2.90

QN 1*7 31.40
TF 1*7*6 190.70
F4 1*7*6*2 756.20



BELM 6
4 FAR HORIZONS 4.70 1.70
2 DIAMOND GREY 2.00
8 LACERATE 1.70

QN 2*4 8.60
TF 4*2*8 56.90
F4 4*2*8*6 133.20



BELM 7
12 WEST RIVER CHARLEY 15.90 3.30
4 BEAT THE STORM 1.80
11 MANSION HOUSE 3.00

QN 4*12 26.90
TF 12*4*11 397.80
F4 12*4*11*3 3727.20

Sure was a tough day at Flemington!!!

Sportz
6th October 2007, 08:06 PM
BELM 6
4 FAR HORIZONS 4.70 1.70

BELM 7
12 WEST RIVER CHARLEY 15.90 3.30


Those last two winners should actually be in bold. ;)

Wasn't such a bad day in Perth (and Rocky). Just a shame about Melbourne.

watsonnek
6th October 2007, 08:48 PM
Not a good day for the ratings today. :o

Have had very little success in the races I posted. Meanwhile, 3 races that I decided to leave out would have all produced good results including a $5000 first 4!!! Damn!

LOL

Sportz
8th October 2007, 04:18 PM
Okay, time for a few different strategies for using the ratings. Basically looking at backing the top 2 raters. Backing 2 horses a race is my preferred way to bet.



Strategy 1:

(1) Concentrate on any race where the top rater has at least 30 points and the 2nd top rater has at least 15 points.

(2) If there are 2 equal 2nd top raters, take the first one mentioned as I list equal rated horses in order of preference. This is rare though. Only happens maybe once a month.

(3) The top two ratings added together must equal no more than 65 points. Races with higher than that amount can certainly still win, but they tend to be less value and it is harder to make a profit backing two horses.

(4) Bet amounts according to the horses' ratings. In other words, if the two runners are rated on 36 and 18, then bet $36 and $18 on them. If you think that's too much money to bet on a race, then you can adjust the amounts to suit yourself but always use basically the same ratio.

Here's a recent example:

HAST, NZ (KELT CAPITAL STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
37 . $2.7 . 5 SEACHANGE
17 . $5.9 . 9 PRINCESS COUP
11 . $9.1 . 2 SIR SLICK
11 . $9.1 . 3 MANDELA
7 . $14.3 . 1 RAILINGS
6 . $16.7 . 14 THE POOKA
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4 . $25.0 . 6 GAZE
2 . $50.0 . 13 J'ADANE
2 . $50.0 . 12 VELOCE BELLA
2 . $50.0 . 10 SPLASHING OUT
2 . $50.0 . 7 OMBRE ROSE
1 . $100.0 . 4 MAGIC CAPE

C/W RT: 5 SEACHANGE ( 5-3-1-9 )
FRM RT: 5 SEACHANGE ( 5-9-2-6 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,5,9 ) OR ( 5,9 – 1,2,3,5,6,9,14 )
In that particular race, you would put $37 on Seachange and $17 on Princess Coup. Princess Coup won the race. On Unitab, she paid $6.60 for a return of $112.20 for your outlay of $54.

Here are the results since the start of the new season using Unitab dividends:

Aug: Races 29, Wins 18 (62%), Out $1671, In $1949.80, Profit $278.80 (16.7%)
Sep: Races 50, Wins 30 (60%), Out $2910, In $3473.30, Profit $563.30 (19.4%)
Oct: Races 14, Wins 11 (79%), Out $802, In $1166.10, Profit $364.10 (45.4%)
Total: Races 93, Wins 59 (63%), Out $5383, In $6589.20, Profit $1206.20 (22.4%)




Next, a slight variation on that idea:

Strategy 2:

(1) Concentrate on any race where there is either a C/W RT Special or a FRM RT Special or both. These are signified by a * in the ratings.

(2) Again back both of the top two raters, providing that the top rater has at least 30 points and the 2nd top rater has at least 15 points. If 2 equal 2nd top raters, take the first one listed.

(3) Only bet in races where the top 2 ratings add up to no more than 65 points.

(4) Again, bet in amounts equal to the horse's ratings.

A recent example:

SEYM 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
48 . $2.1 . 3 WHO'S YA DADDY
15 . $6.7 . 2 STEDMAN
14 . $7.1 . 4 MASKED AVENGER
10 . $10.0 . 1 BRUNELLESCHI
9 . $11.1 . 6 HELLS LANE
4 . $25.0 . 5 TESTALUX
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2 . $50.0 . 8 LIL' CESNA

C/W RT: 3 WHO'S YA DADDY ( 3-4-6-2 )
FRM RT: 3 WHO'S YA DADDY * ( 3-2-1-4 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,4,6 ) OR ( 2,3 – 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 )
Stedman ended up winning the race, a good example of the advantage of backing two horses. There was not a large profit on the race, but it was still a profit. Many people would have backed just Who's Ya Daddy and lost.

Results so far this season, using Unitab divs:

Aug: Races 28, Wins 19 (68%), Out $1628, In $1945.20, Profit $317.20 (19.5%)
Sep: Races 32, Wins 21 (66%), Out $1913, In $2486.70, Profit $573.70 (30%)
Oct: Races 6, Wins 5 (83%), Out $357, In $401.60, Profit $44.60 (12.5%)
Total: Races 66, Wins 45 (68%), Out $3898, In $4833.50, Profit $935.50 (24%)





Now a more selective approach using a rather quirky aspect of the ratings, but it seems to work.

Strategy 3:

(1) Concentrate on races where there is a FRM RT Special signified by a *. But you only bet in the race if that horse is NOT the C/W RT selection.

(2) Back the top two rated runners, providing the top rater has at least 30 points and the 2nd top rater has at least 15 points. If 2 equal 2nd top raters, take the first one listed.

(3) Again, only bet if the top two ratings add up to no more than 65 points.

(4) Bet 2 units on the FRM RT Special and 1 unit on the other runner (no matter what their individual ratings are). For this exercise, I will make 1 unit equal to $20 as that means we're betting $60 a race, roughly what we bet on the other two strategies. So it's $40 on the FRM RT Special and $20 on the other runner.

Here's a recent example:

BELM 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 8 EL PRESIDENTE
21 . $4.8 . 2 LORD BAUMAY
12 . $8.3 . 6 FRENCH FAVORITE
12 . $8.3 . 5 SCOPACIRI
10 . $10.0 . 7 WESTERLY BREEZE
7 . $14.3 . 1 FIMMO'S CROWN
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5 . $20.0 . 3 FOXY BOY
2 . $50.0 . 4 ANOTHER MAK

C/W RT: 2 LORD BAUMAY ( 2-8-7-1 )
FRM RT: 8 EL PRESIDENTE * ( 8-6-5-2 )
MULTIS: ( 2,5,6,7,8 ) OR ( 2,8 – 1,2,3,5,6,7,8 )So, you can see that El Presidente was a FRM RT Special but he was not the C/W RT Selection. Lord Baumay was. This is the sort of race we're looking for with this strategy. El Presidente ended up winning the race and a useful profit was made.

Results so far this season using Unitab divs:

Aug: Races 10, Wins 6 (60%), Out $600, In $796, Profit $196 (32.6%)
Sep: Races 8, Wins 6 (75%), Out $480, In $864, Profit $384 (80%)
Oct: Races 4, Wins 4 (100%), Out $240, In $392, Profit $152 (63.3%)
Total: Races 22, Wins 16 (73%), Out $1320, In $2052, Profit $732 (55.5%)




Remember that all those figures are only using Unitab dividends. You would have been able to improve the results by betting elsewhere and getting higher dividends.

But I must say that I can't give you any guarantee that these methods will continue to make profits. Only that they stand a fair chance.

Anyway, I hope all this rambling has been of some interest. If any of you are using your own strategies with these ratings and having success, why not tell us. I'll be looking at some strategies for multi punters in the future.

darkydog2002
8th October 2007, 06:21 PM
Thank you SPORTZ .

Much appreciated.

Cheers.
darky.

Bhagwan
9th October 2007, 03:24 AM
Well done Sportz.
Thanks for sharing your findings.

Cheers.

Bhagwan
9th October 2007, 03:33 AM
Out of interest Sportz.
What is the max amount of points a first selection can attain?

Cheers.

Sportz
9th October 2007, 07:02 AM
About 66, but that never happens. The most I can recall is a rating of 60 I think and it's pretty rare to get above 55. That's why my rated prices on short priced favourites are almost always above the official price. It's rare for my ratings to price a horse at odds-on. For example, Weekend Hussler in the Guineas this week. It looks like he might start as short as $1.70 or something like that and I doubt that my rated price will get much lower than $2.00. That won't mean he's any less of a chance.

Sportz
10th October 2007, 01:27 PM
Wednesday, October 10

B'RAT 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 12 EMBRACING
32 . $3.1 . 5 MIGHTY TRICKY
16 . $6.3 . 15 PELICAN HEAD
6 . $16.7 . 3 FINGAL BAY
3 . $33.3 . 13 KINGSFORD
3 . $33.3 . 9 SULAWESI
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2 . $50.0 . 8 STAR RANGER
1 . $100.0 . 14 LAUNDERING
1 . $100.0 . 4 KOKO BAY
1 . $100.0 . 7 SPARSCAY

C/W RT: 12 EMBRACING * ( 12-5-15-3 )
FRM RT: 5 MIGHTY TRICKY * ( 5-12-15-13 )
MULTIS: ( 3,5,12,13,15 ) OR ( 5,12,15 – 3,5,9,12,13,15 )



B'RAT 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
43 . $2.3 . 10 BARLINNIE
24 . $4.2 . 7 IN THE SHADOWS
12 . $8.3 . 13 DANCE ON BOARD
6 . $16.7 . 1 DRACS BACK
3 . $33.3 . 4 TEST FIRE
3 . $33.3 . 2 AT THE OASIS
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2 . $50.0 . 11 MAHA CHAKRI
2 . $50.0 . 9 JACQUES LE NAIF
2 . $50.0 . 8 PRIOR KNIGHT

C/W RT: 10 BARLINNIE * ( 10-7-13-1 )
FRM RT: 10 BARLINNIE * ( 10-7-13-4 )
MULTIS: ( 1,4,7,10,13 ) OR ( 7,10 – 1,2,4,7,10,11,13 )



STRA 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 1 JUTLAND
26 . $3.8 . 2 PEPPER AND SALT
10 . $10.0 . 3 MAID OF THE MIST
7 . $14.3 . 7 AIROSPACE
7 . $14.3 . 6 SHANETTY
7 . $14.3 . 5 SCINTILLATING CYN
-----
2 . $50.0 . 8 FILL THE BANK
2 . $50.0 . 10 DESERT DEMON
2 . $50.0 . 4 SHATTERED
2 . $50.0 . 9 LARRABY

C/W RT: 1 JUTLAND ( 1-2-5-6 )
FRM RT: 2 PEPPER AND SALT ( 2-1-3-7 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,6,7 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,5,6,7,8 )



BELM 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
31 . $3.2 . 4 GREAT DESTINY
22 . $4.5 . 1 THERMO KING
16 . $6.3 . 7 MYTHICAL MAN
13 . $7.7 . 5 CRYSTAL SPRING
8 . $12.5 . 6 I'M A ROCKER
-----
7 . $14.3 . 9 ULTIMATE TYCOON
3 . $33.3 . 3 BESWINGING

C/W RT: 4 GREAT DESTINY ( 4-7-5-1 )
FRM RT: 1 THERMO KING ( 1-4-9-7 )
MULTIS: ( 1,4,5,6,7 ) OR ( 1,4,7 – 1,4,5,6,7,9 )



BELM 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 2 KEYTOMONEY
35 . $2.9 . 1 KENS DOUBLE
14 . $7.1 . 4 I'M GIFTED
7 . $14.3 . 3 GLOTING
5 . $20.0 . 6 KENDRIFT
4 . $25.0 . 12 APLOMB
-----
2 . $50.0 . 9 FOREVER SMILE'N

C/W RT: 1 KENS DOUBLE ( 1-2-4-3 )
FRM RT: 2 KEYTOMONEY * ( 2-1-6-12 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,4,6 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,4,6,9,12 )



BELM 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
36 . $2.8 . 10 INARTICULATE
24 . $4.2 . 3 READY FOR LUCK
10 . $10.0 . 2 COMFORTABLY NUMB
8 . $12.5 . 16 TWOFOOLZ
8 . $12.5 . 1 TUMMLER
5 . $20.0 . 14 MR PRESIDENT
-----
4 . $25.0 . 13 LANDSPEED CRUISER
4 . $25.0 . 15 SECCHIO
1 . $100.0 . 6 DANTE'S KINGDOM
1 . $100.0 . 12 L'ESCAPADE

C/W RT: 10 INARTICULATE ( 10-3-1-13 )
FRM RT: 10 INARTICULATE ( 10-3-2-14 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,10,16 ) OR ( 3,10 – 1,2,3,10,13,14,16 )

Sportz
10th October 2007, 01:46 PM
Don't know that I'm all that confident about the betting strategies working today. If anything, I would be more confident about Ballarat R6, but as the top 2 ratings add up to more than 65 points, it doesn't qualify. As I suggested earlier, just because the top two horses' ratings add up to more than 65 points, it doesn't mean they can't win. But past results for the 3 betting strategies suggest that the overall profit drops off when you include these races.

rabbitz
10th October 2007, 02:36 PM
littorio should win race 7 i think

Sportz
10th October 2007, 07:23 PM
Don't know that I'm all that confident about the betting strategies working today. If anything, I would be more confident about Ballarat R6, but as the top 2 ratings add up to more than 65 points, it doesn't qualify.

Just as I thought. :(

Sportz
10th October 2007, 07:44 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

B'RAT 3
13 KINGSFORD 12.30 3.40
3 FINGAL BAY 2.20
15 PELICAN HEAD 1.60

QN 3*13 50.60
TF 13*3*15 481.30
F4 JACKPOT 13*3*15*10 3838.25



B'RAT 6
7 IN THE SHADOWS 5.00 1.80
10 BARLINNIE 1.20
1 DRACS BACK 2.30

QN 7*10 4.90
TF 7*10*1 68.10
F4 7*10*1*8 668.00



STRA 6
1 JUTLAND 3.00 1.60
12 TETRABLAZE 15.60
3 MAID OF THE MIST 2.00

QN 1*12 172.90
TF 1*12*3 2086.40
F4 JACKPOT 1*12*3*9 2450.25



BELM 4
7 MYTHICAL MAN 6.40 1.60
1 THERMO KING 1.50
5 CRYSTAL SPRING 3.30

QN 1*7 22.40
TF 7*1*5 230.50
F4 7*1*5*6 964.40



BELM 5
1 KENS DOUBLE 3.70 1.60
2 KEYTOMONEY 1.60
3 GLOTING 4.10

QN 1*2 4.80
TF 1*2*3 63.00
F4 1*2*3*7 538.60



BELM 9
14 MR PRESIDENT 8.60 3.10
8 DUMA 10.00
13 LANDSPEED CRUISER 2.60

QN 8*14 373.60
TF 14*8*13 6958.70
F4 JACKPOT 14*8*13*9 1549.25

Sportz
12th October 2007, 06:43 PM
No official ratings for Moonee Valley tonight as there are a lack of suitable races on a tough night with changing track conditions. For what it's worth though, I did work out the ratings for some races:

Race 3: 10,8,2 - 3,5,11
Race 5: 5,1,2 - 4,10,9
Race 6: 2,5,9 - 8,14,7
Race 7: 3,5,7 - 6,9,1

maverick1993
12th October 2007, 07:56 PM
Hey sportz what do rate De castella in the last ?? huge win last start ,,,i think Heresay n Deek a good quiny bet..

Sportz
12th October 2007, 08:44 PM
Sorry Mav, didn't even really look at that race as I considered it too open and I'm not a fan of 1000m races. So go with whatever you like.

Sportz
13th October 2007, 12:31 PM
Saturday, October 13

Sorry. Not much in the way of value today.

TOWN 8
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 10 PAWIE
25 . $4.0 . 9 LIDIANA
17 . $5.9 . 2 DON'T TELL TOM
15 . $6.7 . 7 PRINCE OF STEEL
3 . $33.3 . 5 MULLETT
3 . $33.3 . 6 OVERSEAS
-----
2 . $50.0 . 1 BICARB
1 . $100.0 . 3 FINAL STORM

C/W RT: 9 LIDIANA ( 9-10-2-7 )
FRM RT: 10 PAWIE ( 10-7-9-2 )
MULTIS: ( 2,5,7,9,10 ) OR ( 2,9,10 – 2,5,6,7,9,10 )



TOWN 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 7 EAGLE HEIGHTS
35 . $2.9 . 8 GUNNERS BARRACKS
10 . $10.0 . 9 FABULOUS FUHRLONG
10 . $10.0 . 14 SCORPIO STAR
3 . $33.3 . 6 DRAVEEN
3 . $33.3 . 10 HIGHER YIELD
-----
2 . $50.0 . 1 ANCIENT KING
1 . $100.0 . 2 KALGOORLIE KID
1 . $100.0 . 3 SIERRA SLAMMER
1 . $100.0 . 4 ALLWOOD
1 . $100.0 . 5 BLAZING ARROW

C/W RT: 8 GUNNERS BARRACKS ( 8-7-9-14 )
FRM RT: 7 EAGLE HEIGHTS ( 7-8-14-9 )
MULTIS: ( 6,7,8,9,14 ) OR ( 7,8 – 1,6,7,8,9,10,14 )



CAUL 2
RT . ODDS . HORSE
56 . $1.8 . 1 SONIC QUEST
14 . $7.1 . 4 AMERRYKING
11 . $9.1 . 3 ARCHIE SENIOR
7 . $14.3 . 6 KELTAH
6 . $16.7 . 2 MIND YOUR HEAD
-----
4 . $25.0 . 7 MUZDAHER
2 . $50.0 . 8 PINNACLES

C/W RT: 1 SONIC QUEST * ( 1-4-3-2 )
FRM RT: 1 SONIC QUEST * ( 1-6-4-3 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,4,6 ) OR ( 1,4 – 1,2,3,4,6,7,8 )



CAUL 5 (YALUMBA STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
54 . $1.9 . 7 MISS FINLAND
21 . $4.8 . 4 MALDIVIAN
13 . $7.7 . 3 RUBISCENT
8 . $12.5 . 8 ANAMATO
4 . $25.0 . 1 MAYBE BETTER
-----
1 . $100.0 . 5 ANNENKOV

C/W RT: 7 MISS FINLAND * ( 7-4-3-1 )
FRM RT: 7 MISS FINLAND * ( 7-4-8-3 )
MULTIS: ( 3,4,7,8 ) OR ( 4,7 – 1,3,4,5,7,8 )



CAUL 6 (TOORAK HCP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
26 . $3.8 . 3 WONDERFUL WORLD
26 . $3.8 . 4 BON HOFFA
17 . $5.9 . 5 DIVINE MADONNA
16 . $6.3 . 1 NICONERO
4 . $25.0 . 2 LAD OF THE MANOR
4 . $25.0 . 9 DR NIPANDTUCK
-----
3 . $33.3 . 7 ORANGE COUNTY
2 . $50.0 . 10 SPIELMEISTER
2 . $50.0 . 6 VALEDICTUM
1 . $100.0 . 8 KING OF ASHFORD

C/W RT: 4 BON HOFFA ( 4-5-1-9 )
FRM RT: 3 WONDERFUL WORLD * ( 3-4-5-1 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,4,5 ) OR ( 3,4,5 – 1,2,3,4,5,9 )



CAUL 7 (CAULFIELD GUINEAS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 12 WEEKEND HUSSLER
17 . $5.9 . 4 SHREWD RHYTHM
11 . $9.1 . 7 MARCHING
10 . $10.0 . 5 BARBARICUS
7 . $14.3 . 9 PIT LANE
6 . $16.7 . 1 HUSSON LIGHTNING
-----
5 . $20.0 . 3 SCENIC BLAST
3 . $33.3 . 2 MURTAJILL
2 . $50.0 . 14 ON THE WARPATH
1 . $100.0 . 8 DANDY DOLLAR
1 . $100.0 . 11 DAVCON

C/W RT: 12 WEEKEND HUSSLER ( 12-4-5-3 )
FRM RT: 12 WEEKEND HUSSLER ( 12-7-9-4 )
MULTIS: ( 4,5,7,9,12 ) OR ( 4,12 – 1,3,4,5,7,9,12 )



CAUL 8 (WINNING EDGE PRES. STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
55 . $1.8 . 5 MASTER O'REILLY
20 . $5.0 . 4 DOLPHIN JO
10 . $10.0 . 6 REGGIE
7 . $14.3 . 3 LAZER SHARP
5 . $20.0 . 10 ZAVITE
-----
3 . $33.3 . 8 CANCANELLE

C/W RT: 5 MASTER O'REILLY * ( 5-4-3-6 )
FRM RT: 5 MASTER O'REILLY * ( 5-4-6-10 )
MULTIS: ( 3,4,5,6,10 ) OR ( 4,5,6 – 3,4,5,6,8,10 )



CHEL 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 2 SPLINTA
28 . $3.6 . 3 VICELLO
15 . $6.7 . 7 MAN OF CLASS
9 . $11.1 . 4 YARTERBERY
8 . $12.5 . 1 MACCA'S MOUNT
-----
2 . $50.0 . 5 IRKUTSK

C/W RT: 2 SPLINTA ( 2-3-4-7 )
FRM RT: 2 SPLINTA ( 2-3-7-4 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,4,7 ) OR ( 2,3,7 – 1,2,3,4,5,7 )



CHEL 7 (HILL SMITH STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 2 KIBBUTZ
28 . $3.6 . 10 SWIFT MISS
12 . $8.3 . 9 DIANA'S SECRET
10 . $10.0 . 12 AMARIE
7 . $14.3 . 3 CLIMB THE HILL
5 . $20.0 . 6 ENVIRONMENT PATRON
-----
2 . $50.0 . 5 ENUEJEUNE
1 . $100.0 . 4 BEAU CURRENCY
1 . $100.0 . 13 ALL ABOUT ANNIE
1 . $100.0 . 8 STUDENT PRINCE
1 . $100.0 . 11 TAKE THE CASH

C/W RT: 2 KIBBUTZ ( 2-10-12-9 )
FRM RT: 10 SWIFT MISS ( 10-2-9-3 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,9,10,12 ) OR ( 2,10 – 2,3,5,6,9,10,12 )



BELM 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 1 VEROSSI
27 . $3.7 . 2 BEST BEWARE
16 . $6.3 . 6 DAUGHTER'S DEMAND
16 . $6.3 . 3 ELIXAAR
3 . $33.3 . 5 LEICA JET
-----
1 . $100.0 . 4 OI AUSSIE

C/W RT: 1 VEROSSI ( 1-2-6-3 )
FRM RT: 1 VEROSSI * ( 1-2-3-6 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,6 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,4,5,6 )



BELM 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
45 . $2.2 . 12 TOY OF WAR
25 . $4.0 . 13 WINDFIELDS FARM
10 . $10.0 . 6 DESERT ACE
6 . $16.7 . 2 MIKALDICO
5 . $20.0 . 1 CONTENTIOUS MISS
4 . $25.0 . 3 DANACOLADA
-----
2 . $50.0 . 9 JEREME'S PRIDE
2 . $50.0 . 7 EXHILARATING
1 . $100.0 . 5 ABLE KING
1 . $100.0 . 8 HOOKS REASON

C/W RT: 12 TOY OF WAR * ( 12-13-1-2 )
FRM RT: 12 TOY OF WAR * ( 12-13-6-2 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,6,12,13 ) OR ( 12,13 – 1,2,3,6,9,12,13 )



BELM 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 2 EL PRESIDENTE
30 . $3.3 . 4 GLORY HUNTER
10 . $10.0 . 3 CANNY JACK
6 . $16.7 . 7 BARRAMBIE
4 . $25.0 . 5 MIDTIME
4 . $25.0 . 1 JUST A HALO
-----
3 . $33.3 . 6 LONDON COURT
1 . $100.0 . 11 CALLER ONE
1 . $100.0 . 9 DEMON QUATTRO
1 . $100.0 . 14 JACKASS

C/W RT: 4 GLORY HUNTER ( 4-2-3-5 )
FRM RT: 2 EL PRESIDENTE * ( 2-4-7-3 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,4,5,7 ) OR ( 2,4 – 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 )

Sportz
13th October 2007, 07:52 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

TOWN 8
9 LIDIANA 3.10 1.50
2 DON'T TELL TOM 1.90
10 PAWIE 1.60

QN 2*9 9.20
TF 9*2*10 32.50
F4 9*2*10*7 91.00



TOWN 9
14 SCORPIO STAR 8.40 2.70
9 FABULOUS FUHRLONG 1.90
7 EAGLE HEIGHTS 1.80

QN 9*14 18.80
TF 14*9*7 140.40
F4 14*9*7*8 200.20



CAUL 2
8 PINNACLES 10.00 2.70
1 SONIC QUEST 1.30
4 AMERRYKING 2.10

QN 1*8 10.50
TF 8*1*4 155.40
F4 8*1*4*6 720.80



CAUL 5
4 MALDIVIAN 3.80 1.90
7 MISS FINLAND 1.30
8 ANAMATO NTD

QN 4*7 2.40
TF 4*7*8 32.60
F4 4*7*8*1 140.20



CAUL 6
5 DIVINE MADONNA 4.30 1.80
1 NICONERO 2.00
3 WONDERFUL WORLD 1.70

QN 1*5 11.90
TF 5*1*3 84.70
F4 5*1*3*4 170.40



CAUL 7
12 WEEKEND HUSSLER 1.90 1.30
3 SCENIC BLAST 4.00
7 MARCHING 2.40

QN 3*12 12.90
TF 12*3*7 176.40
F4 12*3*7*11 3257.80



CAUL 8
5 MASTER O'REILLY 1.90 1.20
10 ZAVITE 3.00
6 REGGIE 1.70

QN 5*10 12.20
TF 5*10*6 73.80
F4 5*10*6*4 127.80



CHEL 4
4 YARTERBERY 6.00 1.80
6 GARNER 9.10
7 MAN OF CLASS 1.50

QN 4*6 96.00
TF 4*6*7 811.40
F4 4*6*7*1 5156.80



CHEL 7
2 KIBBUTZ 3.10 1.70
9 DIANA'S SECRET 1.80
13 ALL ABOUT ANNIE 6.10

QN 2*9 10.20
TF 2*9*13 282.00
F4 2*9*13*4 4720.20



BELM 3
1 VEROSSI 1.80 1.10
2 BEST BEWARE 1.50
4 OI AUSSIE 4.20

QN 1*2 2.80
TF 1*2*4 57.00
F4 1*2*4*8 357.80



BELM 5
12 TOY OF WAR 2.10 1.30
2 MIKALDICO 3.20
7 EXHILARATING 4.40

QN 2*12 13.00
TF 12*2*7 191.80
F4 12*2*7*13 335.00



BELM 9
4 GLORY HUNTER 4.90 1.50
2 EL PRESIDENTE 1.20
3 CANNY JACK 2.10

QN 2*4 4.60
TF 4*2*3 54.20
F4 4*2*3*5 292.00

Sportz
17th October 2007, 01:10 PM
Wednesday, October 17

I honestly don't think I can recall a much harder day's punting than this one! How tough is the Thousand Guineas!!! Anything could win it! I've posted the ratings ONLY because it's a group 1 race. The ratings have it as $5 the field, and I would normally consider that to be far too open. I left out the Murray Bridge Cup for the same reason.


CAUL 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
27 . $3.7 . 8 EXTEND
25 . $4.0 . 9 GALLOPIN
22 . $4.5 . 2 ECLAIR PASSION
7 . $14.3 . 13 KNOCKOUT
7 . $14.3 . 11 STEDMAN
5 . $20.0 . 4 DARK AMBITION
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4 . $25.0 . 3 AZTEC SMYTZER
2 . $50.0 . 12 O'PERFECT ONE
2 . $50.0 . 1 CLASSIC DE LAGO

C/W RT: 2 ECLAIR PASSION ( 2-8-9-13 )
FRM RT: 9 GALLOPIN ( 9-8-11-13 )
MULTIS: ( 2,8,9,11,13 ) OR ( 2,8,9 – 2,4,8,9,11,13 )



CAUL 6 (THOUSAND GUINEAS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
20 . $5.0 . 12 ARCADIA
20 . $5.0 . 9 ABSOLUT GLAM
16 . $6.3 . 3 EL DAANA
16 . $6.3 . 1 JESTATUNE
6 . $16.7 . 6 RIVA SAN
6 . $16.7 . 10 ZARITA
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4 . $25.0 . 7 ANTARCTIC MISS
3 . $33.3 . 2 TRULY BEAUTIFUL
3 . $33.3 . 8 SERIOUS SPEED
3 . $33.3 . 4 EXTENSION OF TIME
2 . $50.0 . 14 BEAMING BELLA
1 . $100.0 . 11 BONDED
1 . $100.0 . 13 PERFECT PERSUASION
1 . $100.0 . 5 BANTRY BAY

C/W RT: 3 EL DAANA ( 3-9-1-12 )
FRM RT: 12 ARCADIA ( 12-9-1-6 )
MULTIS: ( 1,3,6,9,12 ) OR ( 1,3,9,12 – 1,3,6,9,10,12 )



CAUL 7 (CARSALES.COM.AU CLASSIC)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 11 AUTUMN JEUNEY
25 . $4.0 . 3 BLESSED
15 . $6.7 . 1 EL PAUJI
15 . $6.7 . 5 POST THYME
5 . $20.0 . 13 CASUAL KISS
5 . $20.0 . 9 COCOA TYCOON
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4 . $25.0 . 2 COLLODI
4 . $25.0 . 6 BLUE GROUSE
1 . $100.0 . 8 ADMIRAL'S LADY
1 . $100.0 . 12 GAME SERENA

C/W RT: 3 BLESSED ( 3-5-1-11 )
FRM RT: 11 AUTUMN JEUNEY * ( 11-3-1-13 )
MULTIS: ( 1,3,5,11,13 ) OR ( 3,11 – 1,2,3,5,9,11,13 )



CAUL 8
RT . ODDS . HORSE
28 . $3.6 . 3 COMPLETION
22 . $4.5 . 7 HOODLUM
15 . $6.7 . 15 WHO'S YA DADDY
10 . $10.0 . 12 MAJESTICAL
10 . $10.0 . 17 ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
5 . $20.0 . 18 CHINA CAUSEWAY
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3 . $33.3 . 10 DANEVADE
3 . $33.3 . 16 ZINGARA
3 . $33.3 . 8 PRINCE OF POEMS
1 . $100.0 . 1 CAPTAIN IN CHARGE
1 . $100.0 . 5 JOSE AMIGO
1 . $100.0 . 14 SPECIALSTARZ

C/W RT: 3 COMPLETION ( 3-7-17-15 )
FRM RT: 3 COMPLETION ( 3-7-15-12 )
MULTIS: ( 3,7,12,15,17 ) OR ( 3,7,15 – 3,7,12,15,17,18 )



M.BR 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
43 . $2.3 . 4 STARBIRD
16 . $6.3 . 7 CIRO PRINCE
14 . $7.1 . 6 ROCK ON RONNY
9 . $11.1 . 1 GRACE AND POWER
8 . $12.5 . 2 EL SEIGNEUR
5 . $20.0 . 9 A FEATHERED TALE
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3 . $33.3 . 10 MR MERCURIAL
2 . $50.0 . 5 POSITIVE ACTION

C/W RT: 4 STARBIRD ( 4-7-6-2 )
FRM RT: 4 STARBIRD * ( 4-6-1-7 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,4,6,7 ) OR ( 4,7 – 1,2,4,6,7,9,10 )



NORT 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
43 . $2.3 . 6 WITH THIS RING
30 . $3.3 . 10 KILINDINI
11 . $9.1 . 3 LE BON JEUNE
5 . $20.0 . 9 FIGHT TO LIVE
4 . $25.0 . 8 CLASLIYEV
4 . $25.0 . 5 WESTERN KISEKI
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1 . $100.0 . 12 SLEEK JEWEL
1 . $100.0 . 4 ONGENDUS
1 . $100.0 . 13 SLICE OF LEMON

C/W RT: 6 WITH THIS RING * ( 6-10-3-9 )
FRM RT: 6 WITH THIS RING ( 6-10-3-8 )
MULTIS: ( 3,6,8,9,10 ) OR ( 3,6,10 – 3,5,6,8,9,10 )

Sportz
17th October 2007, 02:24 PM
Well, there you go. Already one roughie up in race 4. Wouldn't be surprised if there are a few more.

Sportz
17th October 2007, 05:12 PM
I honestly don't think I can recall a much harder day's punting than this one! How tough is the Thousand Guineas!!! Anything could win it! I've posted the ratings ONLY because it's a group 1 race. The ratings have it as $5 the field, and I would normally consider that to be far too open. I left out the Murray Bridge Cup for the same reason.


Told you it was going to be tough!!! :eek:

As it turned out, I really should have included the Murray Bridge Cup after all, but that's the way it goes. Only one race today for the betting strategies I outlined last week, and that was a winner for a handy profit. So, hopefully people didn't do too much damage today.

Sportz
17th October 2007, 06:43 PM
Results (Unitab divs)


CAUL 4
16 THE WOLVERINE 40.00 7.00
9 GALLOPIN 1.50
11 STEDMAN 2.90

QN 9*16 91.20
TF 16*9*11 1868.10
F4 16*9*11*8 6282.00



CAUL 6
8 SERIOUS SPEED 13.30 3.40
4 EXTENSION OF TIME 5.10
7 ANTARCTIC MISS 8.20

QN 4*8 94.10
TF 8*4*7 6462.90
F4 8*4*7*6 138482.40



CAUL 7
5 POST THYME 9.90 3.10
13 CASUAL KISS 3.50
9 COCOA TYCOON 3.60

QN 5*13 63.40
TF 5*13*9 768.40
F4 5*13*9*3 4316.60



CAUL 8
17 ONE WAY OR ANOTHER 11.80 3.30
10 DANEVADE 2.90
12 MAJESTICAL 2.90

QN 10*17 50.00
TF 17*10*12 826.90
F4 17*10*12*3 2886.40



M.BR 6
4 STARBIRD 2.50 1.40
9 A FEATHERED TALE 3.50
2 EL SEIGNEUR 3.80

QN 4*9 16.70
TF 4*9*2 180.90
F4 4*9*2*5 1986.00



NORT 3
9 FIGHT TO LIVE 14.90 2.80
10 KILINDINI 1.70
6 WITH THIS RING 1.40

QN 9*10 40.70
TF 9*10*6 230.40
F4 9*10*6*3 358.20

Sportz
20th October 2007, 01:14 PM
Saturday, October 20

Can't recall a horse coming up so short in the ratings in such a big race!!!

ROCK 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 1 DANZAMONKEY
17 . $5.9 . 8 LUSTING
14 . $7.1 . 2 PANJANDRUM
7 . $14.3 . 14 OUR CEASE FIRE
7 . $14.3 . 13 MILORA MISS
7 . $14.3 . 4 STORMY BEND
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5 . $20.0 . 3 ROLE OF NED
3 . $33.3 . 6 EXCITUM
1 . $100.0 . 12 LEICANAVALANCHE
1 . $100.0 . 10 FINE SEAS

C/W RT: 1 DANZAMONKEY ( 1-2-13-8 )
FRM RT: 1 DANZAMONKEY ( 1-8-3-14 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,8,13,14 ) OR ( 1,8 – 1,2,3,4,8,13,14 )



CAUL 5 (HARROLDS STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
44 . $2.3 . 2 VORMISTA
16 . $6.3 . 6 BELLINI ROSE
15 . $6.7 . 5 MISS FANTABULOUS
7 . $14.3 . 3 MISS JUDGEMENT
5 . $20.0 . 13 GUILD
5 . $20.0 . 9 TRANSLATE
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4 . $25.0 . 7 SOVEREIGN MISS
3 . $33.3 . 1 LIKE IT IS
3 . $33.3 . 8 DYNA MYTA
1 . $100.0 . 4 SOLEIL
1 . $100.0 . 10 PINSEMTOIT

C/W RT: 2 VORMISTA * ( 2-5-6-3 )
FRM RT: 2 VORMISTA * ( 2-6-5-7 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,5,6,13 ) OR ( 2,5,6 – 2,3,5,6,9,13 )



CAUL 6 (THAI AIRWAYS INT. STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
28 . $3.6 . 11 TYPHOON ZED
26 . $3.8 . 3 STANZOUT
15 . $6.7 . 2 LET GO THOMMO
12 . $8.3 . 1 UNDUE
10 . $10.0 . 6 SHADOWAYS
7 . $14.3 . 12 OUR MAHARAJA
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2 . $50.0 . 5 MONET RULES
1 . $100.0 . 13 TERANGO

C/W RT: 11 TYPHOON ZED ( 11-3-1-6 )
FRM RT: 11 TYPHOON ZED ( 11-3-2-1 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,6,11 ) OR ( 2,3,11 – 1,2,3,6,11,12 )



CAUL 7 (DAVID JONES CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
28 . $3.6 . 5 MOLOTOV
21 . $4.8 . 12 FIRE IN THE NIGHT
17 . $5.9 . 6 DRACS BACK
10 . $10.0 . 2 KING OF ASHFORD
7 . $14.3 . 11 PACINO
5 . $20.0 . 8 ACES HIGH
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4 . $25.0 . 1 HOFMEISTER
3 . $33.3 . 13 CHOLULA
3 . $33.3 . 4 SOULACROIX
2 . $50.0 . 14 SCHUMPETER
1 . $100.0 . 3 ON A JEUNE

C/W RT: 12 FIRE IN THE NIGHT ( 12-5-2-6 )
FRM RT: 5 MOLOTOV ( 5-6-12-11 )
MULTIS: ( 2,5,6,11,12 ) OR ( 5,6,12 – 2,5,6,8,11,12 )



CAUL 8 (CAULFIELD CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
48 . $2.1 . 8 MALDIVIAN
10 . $10.0 . 16 ESKIMO QUEEN
7 . $14.3 . 14 DOURO VALLEY
6 . $16.7 . 5 MAYBE BETTER
6 . $16.7 . 18 MASTER O'REILLY
6 . $16.7 . 17 PRINCESS COUP
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5 . $20.0 . 11 SCENIC SHOT
5 . $20.0 . 7 PURPLE MOON
3 . $33.3 . 13 ANAMATO
3 . $33.3 . 10 MANDELA
2 . $50.0 . 1 TAWQEET
1 . $100.0 . 6 BLACK TOM
1 . $100.0 . 4 RAILINGS

C/W RT: 8 MALDIVIAN * ( 8-17-18-7 )
FRM RT: 8 MALDIVIAN * ( 8-16-14-11 )
MULTIS: ( 5,8,14,16,17,18 ) OR ( 8,16 - 5,7,8,10,11,13,14,16,17,18 )



MORP 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 2 SANDHILL PRINCE
23 . $4.3 . 3 CLUB LIQUID
16 . $6.3 . 1 SENDEED
14 . $7.1 . 5 AKHATON
11 . $9.1 . 7 TO A FAULT
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2 . $50.0 . 8 ROTOGA

C/W RT: 2 SANDHILL PRINCE ( 2-3-5-1 )
FRM RT: 2 SANDHILL PRINCE ( 2-3-1-7 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,5,7 ) OR ( 1,2,3 – 1,2,3,5,7,8 )



MORP 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
26 . $3.8 . 1 SILK WIND
18 . $5.6 . 3 MAN OF CLASS
15 . $6.7 . 7 ROYAL YANGTZE
12 . $8.3 . 10 SPECTROGRAM
10 . $10.0 . 6 TENITA MIMANI
9 . $11.1 . 11 BETTWS
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4 . $25.0 . 5 LLAYNBE
3 . $33.3 . 4 LEADER'S PRIDE
2 . $50.0 . 12 ASCOLTI
2 . $50.0 . 9 LINDHOLME
1 . $100.0 . 2 GARNER
1 . $100.0 . 8 READY FOR MORE

C/W RT: 1 SILK WIND ( 1-10-3-6 )
FRM RT: 1 SILK WIND ( 1-3-7-11 )
MULTIS: ( 1,3,6,7,10 ) OR ( 1,3,7 – 1,3,6,7,10,11 )



MORP 6 (CLIPSAL DURBRIDGE STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
42 . $2.4 . 1 ROYAL IDA
35 . $2.9 . 5 PENCELARON
16 . $6.3 . 2 EL MAZE
5 . $20.0 . 4 BOLD LINE
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4 . $25.0 . 3 MT BILLY

C/W RT: 1 ROYAL IDA ( 1-5-2-3 )
FRM RT: 1 ROYAL IDA * ( 1-5-2-4 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,4,5 ) OR ( 1,5 – 1,2,3,4,5 )



MORP 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 2 HAPPY BANKER
25 . $4.0 . 3 WHO'STHIS
15 . $6.7 . 10 LAST WORD
12 . $8.3 . 5 WILDLIFE GIRL
7 . $14.3 . 9 LADY BRANAX
5 . $20.0 . 7 TIVATION
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2 . $50.0 . 6 FLYING PHOENIX
1 . $100.0 . 11 BEAUJOLANG
1 . $100.0 . 1 JEUNE'S EDGE
1 . $100.0 . 8 JEUNE CHEVAL

C/W RT: 2 HAPPY BANKER ( 2-3-5-9 )
FRM RT: 2 HAPPY BANKER ( 2-3-10-5 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,5,9,10 ) OR ( 2,3,10 – 2,3,5,7,9,10 )



ASCOT 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
34 . $2.9 . 8 SOLIDWICKEDCRUEL
33 . $3.0 . 4 REFLECTIVE STAR
14 . $7.1 . 7 DANTE'S VOLONTE
8 . $12.5 . 5 SCOPACIRI
7 . $14.3 . 9 STRIKEN
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2 . $50.0 . 1 GOLDEN BUSINESS
2 . $50.0 . 10 SUMMER HAZE
2 . $50.0 . 3 EUCLASSY THING

C/W RT: 8 SOLIDWICKEDCRUEL ( 8-4-7-9 )
FRM RT: 4 REFLECTIVE STAR * ( 4-8-7-5 )
MULTIS: ( 4,5,7,8,9 ) OR ( 4,8 – 1,4,5,7,8,9,10 )



ASCOT 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
42 . $2.4 . 3 CAPUCHIN
21 . $4.8 . 13 WINNING SCENE
10 . $10.0 . 1 LORD LONSDALE
10 . $10.0 . 6 BLACK DOUGLAS
6 . $16.7 . 9 MARINE DRIVE
6 . $16.7 . 5 ANOTHER MAK
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4 . $25.0 . 10 NUTTY CLUSO
2 . $50.0 . 8 COMFORTABLY NUMB
1 . $100.0 . 7 BURNZY

C/W RT: 3 CAPUCHIN * ( 3-13-1-6 )
FRM RT: 3 CAPUCHIN ( 3-13-6-1 )
MULTIS: ( 1,3,6,9,13 ) OR ( 3,13 – 1,3,5,6,9,10,13 )



ASCOT 6 (NORTHERLY STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
42 . $2.4 . 1 BEAT THE STORM
20 . $5.0 . 7 MANSION HOUSE
15 . $6.7 . 3 WEST RIVER CHARLEY
10 . $10.0 . 6 GUYNO
5 . $20.0 . 13 NEW SPICE
3 . $33.3 . 2 DAKA'S GEM
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2 . $50.0 . 8 STORMBLITZ
2 . $50.0 . 12 LEGEND EXPRESS
1 . $100.0 . 10 GARBO'S STORM
1 . $100.0 . 4 FOREST FROLIC
1 . $100.0 . 9 TARZI
1 . $100.0 . 14 WESTERLY BREEZE

C/W RT: 1 BEAT THE STORM * ( 1-7-3-13 )
FRM RT: 1 BEAT THE STORM * ( 1-7-3-6 )
MULTIS: ( 1,3,6,7,13 ) OR ( 1,3,7 – 1,2,3,6,7,13 )

Rumple_4
20th October 2007, 01:29 PM
Good luck today Sportz, and thanks for your ratings. This time of year seems to be when you hit form, something about the big races.

Sportz
20th October 2007, 02:04 PM
Miss Fantabulous was SO CLOSE to being 2nd top rater!!! Oh well, hope someone backed it anyway.

Sportz
20th October 2007, 03:53 PM
Good luck today Sportz, and thanks for your ratings. This time of year seems to be when you hit form, something about the big races.

Don't know. It hasn't been that great so far today. :o

Sportz
20th October 2007, 04:23 PM
Wow! What a cup! The top 2 raters both late scratchings!!!

Managed to find the trifecta with the next 4 so that was good, but boy, what a shock!

Sportz
20th October 2007, 08:11 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

ROCK 9
8 LUSTING 4.30 1.80
1 DANZAMONKEY 1.50
2 PANJANDRUM 4.30

QN 1*8 4.00
TF 8*1*2 154.90
F4 8*1*2*10 2218.20



CAUL 5
5 MISS FANTABULOUS 19.00 4.20
6 BELLINI ROSE 1.90
1 LIKE IT IS 3.60

QN 5*6 61.40
TF 5*6*1 1260.20
F4 5*6*1*9 7293.00



CAUL 6
4 TESBURY JACK 10.50 3.20
11 TYPHOON ZED 2.10
2 LET GO THOMMO 2.20

QN 4*11 34.20
TF 4*11*2 449.90
F4 4*11*2*8 13599.80



CAUL 7
12 FIRE IN THE NIGHT 4.20 1.80
5 MOLOTOV 2.00
11 PACINO 2.90

QN 5*12 9.70
TF 12*5*11 102.60
F4 12*5*11*6 408.80



CAUL 8
18 MASTER O'REILLY 5.30 2.10
14 DOURO VALLEY 3.20
17 PRINCESS COUP 3.30
SCR 8L 16L

QN 14*18 22.50
TF 18*14*17 386.30
F4 18*14*17*2 13192.80



MORP 3
1 SENDEED 2.50 1.40
3 CLUB LIQUID 1.50
5 AKHATON 1.70

QN 1*3 5.50
TF 1*3*5 33.90
F4 1*3*5*8 197.60



MORP 5
8 READY FOR MORE 25.30 5.80
12 ASCOLTI 3.60
3 MAN OF CLASS 2.60

QN 8*12 148.40
TF 8*12*3 4813.30
F4 8*12*3*11 14855.80



MORP 6
1 ROYAL IDA 1.70 1.30
5 PENCELARON 1.70
4 BOLD LINE NTD

QN 1*5 2.40
TF 1*5*4 24.20
F4 1*5*4*6 145.00



MORP 7
3 WHO'STHIS 4.30 1.80
6 FLYING PHOENIX 3.30
10 LAST WORD 2.40

QN 3*6 22.30
TF 3*6*10 231.30
F4 3*6*10*5 1051.60



ASCOT 3
5 SCOPACIRI 15.50 3.00
4 REFLECTIVE STAR 1.40
7 DANTE'S VOLONTE 1.90

QN 4*5 16.50
TF 5*4*7 261.00
F4 5*4*7*9 1511.60



ASCOT 5
3 CAPUCHIN 2.10 1.30
6 BLACK DOUGLAS 1.90
7 BURNZY 6.70

QN 3*6 7.70
TF 3*6*7 163.40
F4 3*6*7*10 3458.60



ASCOT 6
13 NEW SPICE 14.70 3.90
11 JINX KING 9.20
3 WEST RIVER CHARLEY 3.00

QN 11*13 313.30
TF 13*11*3 4440.50
F4 JACKPOT 13*11*3*1 5664.50

Sportz
24th October 2007, 01:31 PM
Wednesday, October 24

GEEL 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
58 . $1.7 . 8 SUNBURNT LAND
15 . $6.7 . 5 BRIGHT ENCOUNTER
10 . $10.0 . 11 DIAMOND ENVY
7 . $14.3 . 13 DUKE STREET
3 . $33.3 . 10 ZULU KING
3 . $33.3 . 1 SHANIKOV
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2 . $50.0 . 4 MISS BADOURA
2 . $50.0 . 12 LUNAR QUEST
1 . $100.0 . 2 DON'T STOP
1 . $100.0 . 7 LOTTERY KING

C/W RT: 8 SUNBURNT LAND * ( 8-5-11-3 )
FRM RT: 8 SUNBURNT LAND * ( 8-5-13-10 )
MULTIS: ( 5,8,10,11,13 ) OR ( 5,8 – 1,4,5,8,10,11,13 )



GEEL 7 (GEELONG CLASSIC)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
27 . $3.7 . 1 HUSONIC
24 . $4.2 . 4 HARGITAY
17 . $5.9 . 6 CHIEF DAZZLER
14 . $7.1 . 5 GALAXY LAD
10 . $10.0 . 2 STOCKADE
5 . $20.0 . 9 WHATEVER JACK
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4 . $25.0 . 3 BARACHETTA
1 . $100.0 . 7 QUEENS WAY
1 . $100.0 . 13 GINEPRI

C/W RT: 4 HARGITAY ( 4-1-6-5 )
FRM RT: 6 CHIEF DAZZLER ( 6-2-1-5 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,4,5,6 ) OR ( 1,4,6 – 1,2,4,5,6,9 )



GEEL 8 (GEELONG CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
39 . $2.6 . 6 ZAVITE
26 . $3.8 . 10 TRICK OF LIGHT
16 . $6.3 . 8 THE FUZZ
5 . $20.0 . 9 TOULOUSE LAUTREC
4 . $25.0 . 1 CEFALU
3 . $33.3 . 11 DANE EMPIRE
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2 . $50.0 . 14 DESERT MASTER
2 . $50.0 . 13 SOUTHERN COURAGE
2 . $50.0 . 19 SATINSPIN
1 . $100.0 . 3 CANCANELLE
1 . $100.0 . 2 ZILZIE
1 . $100.0 . 18 IRIS IN THE GLEN

C/W RT: 6 ZAVITE ( 6-10-8-9 )
FRM RT: 6 ZAVITE * ( 6-10-8-1 )
MULTIS: ( 1,6,8,9,10 ) OR ( 6,8,10 – 1,6,8,9,10,11 )



GEEL 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 12 SOUND JOURNEY
20 . $5.0 . 2 MAKEADREAMCOMETRUE
15 . $6.7 . 14 HEAVEN MAY WAIT
7 . $14.3 . 6 SCHWARZER
5 . $20.0 . 11 DESERT SAINT
5 . $20.0 . 4 TULLY STORM
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4 . $25.0 . 3 PICQUART
2 . $50.0 . 5 PRINCE OF VILLAINS
2 . $50.0 . 8 GRAPPLE
1 . $100.0 . 1 FINLAYSON
1 . $100.0 . 16 VOUKEFALOS

C/W RT: 12 SOUND JOURNEY ( 12-2-6-14 )
FRM RT: 12 SOUND JOURNEY * ( 12-14-2-11 )
MULTIS: ( 2,6,11,12,14 ) OR ( 2,12,14 – 2,4,6,11,12,14 )



NORT 2
RT . ODDS . HORSE
44 . $2.3 . 8 WITH THIS RING
27 . $3.7 . 14 ROCK MY PAGO
10 . $10.0 . 10 LEICA STEEL
6 . $16.7 . 12 PRODUCTIVITY
4 . $25.0 . 7 THOUGHT CONTROL
4 . $25.0 . 1 CLASSY NUGGET
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3 . $33.3 . 4 LEUWIN STAR
1 . $100.0 . 11 NEWTON BEWLEY
1 . $100.0 . 3 HAKADAAD
1 . $100.0 . 9 KEY TRIO
1 . $100.0 . 6 PRICE OF LIFE

C/W RT: 8 WITH THIS RING * ( 8-14-12-10 )
FRM RT: 14 ROCK MY PAGO ( 14-8-10-7 )
MULTIS: ( 7,8,10,12,14 ) OR ( 8,14 – 1,4,7,8,10,12,14 )

Sportz
24th October 2007, 01:51 PM
Really lacking in confidence at the moment. Did something really dumb on Saturday. I tinkered a bit with the usual rating method and it cost me. But more importantly, it cost anybody on here who used those betting strategies I outlined last week, as it meant that Miss Fantabulous was only rated 3rd, not 2nd. That was the difference between a loss and a big win! Sorry. :(

What do they say. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

syllabus23
24th October 2007, 03:12 PM
I seldom if ever use anyones tips,systems or strategies but on Saturday out of curiosity I dutched miss fantabulous and bellini rose after looking at your ratings.They were the two value horses from your top three ratings in that particular race.The other was under your predicted odds.

Having said that I prefer to select my own horses I still enjoy reading all of the posts in this forum and follow the results with interest.

Anyway you certainly steered me onto a very good winner in that race.Ty.

Sportz
24th October 2007, 03:19 PM
Thanks for that.

I backed her too, and there were probably some others who did as well. I'm just disappointed for anybody else that missed out because of my tinkering.

Sportz
24th October 2007, 09:52 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

GEEL 6
8 SUNBURNT LAND 1.60 1.20
5 BRIGHT ENCOUNTER 2.10
13 DUKE STREET 2.30

QN 5*8 5.90
TF 8*5*13 34.60
F4 8*5*13*11 171.20



GEEL 7
2 STOCKADE 6.10 2.40
1 HUSONIC 1.80
12 PALOMA BELLA 8.00

QN 1*2 13.50
TF 2*1*12 582.70
F4 2*1*12*5 3644.80



GEEL 8
8 THE FUZZ 5.50 2.00
6 ZAVITE 1.50
14 DESERT MASTER 6.00

QN 6*8 8.10
TF 8*6*14 278.50
F4 8*6*14*1 1218.80



GEEL 9
12 SOUND JOURNEY 2.10 1.40
6 SCHWARZER 2.30
2 MAKEADREAMCOMETRUE 2.30

QN 6*12 9.90
TF 12*6*2 72.40
F4 12*6*2*10 1069.60




NORT 2
8 WITH THIS RING 3.40 1.50
1 CLASSY NUGGET 2.70
14 ROCK MY PAGO 1.40

QN 1*8 21.10
TF 8*1*14 72.90
F4 8*1*14*12 158.20

Sportz
27th October 2007, 12:36 PM
Saturday, October 27

KGRA 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
48 . $2.1 . 1 AL BE NIMBLE
16 . $6.3 . 2 COMMEMORATING
10 . $10.0 . 6 ALTOMIC
8 . $12.5 . 7 DON LUIGI
7 . $14.3 . 10 ROLL OVER ROVER
4 . $25.0 . 3 GEIGER SPIRIT
-----
3 . $33.3 . 9 CHIEF HENNESSY
3 . $33.3 . 8 SLIPPERY SLY
2 . $50.0 . 4 REDNRICH
1 . $100.0 . 5 PETRENI

C/W RT: 1 AL BE NIMBLE ( 1-2-7-10 )
FRM RT: 1 AL BE NIMBLE * ( 1-2-6-7 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,6,7,10 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,6,7,9,10 )



KGRA 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
32 . $3.1 . 2 VALENTINO EDDIE
26 . $3.8 . 1 BEDTIME SECRETS
16 . $6.3 . 3 REGAL CAT
8 . $12.5 . 10 LITTLE MISS BEEJAY
8 . $12.5 . 9 LIONS AND DRAGONS
6 . $16.7 . 7 ELLA LA ROSSA
-----
3 . $33.3 . 5 ST ALESSIO
1 . $100.0 . 6 THE HUNGRY MILE

C/W RT: 2 VALENTINO EDDIE ( 2-1-3-9 )
FRM RT: 2 VALENTINO EDDIE ( 2-1-3-10 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,9,10 ) OR ( 1,2,3 – 1,2,3,7,9,10 )



MVAL 3 (CITY PACIFIC FINANCE STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
53 . $1.9 . 9 ROYAL ASSCHER
21 . $4.8 . 3 GAMBLE ME
10 . $10.0 . 7 EL MANDON
7 . $14.3 . 2 ZIZOU
4 . $25.0 . 8 JESTATUNE
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3 . $33.3 . 1 MASKED ASSASSIN
3 . $33.3 . 4 FLEA FLICKER

C/W RT: 9 ROYAL ASSCHER * ( 9-3-2-8 )
FRM RT: 9 ROYAL ASSCHER * ( 9-7-3-1 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,7,8,9 ) OR ( 3,9 – 1,2,3,4,7,8,9 )



MVAL 6 (AAMI VASE)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 2 BARBARICUS
30 . $3.3 . 1 MARCHING
12 . $8.3 . 3 DAVCON
10 . $10.0 . 12 THESANDMANCAN
10 . $10.0 . 6 KIBBUTZ
3 . $33.3 . 5 ON THE WARPATH
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2 . $50.0 . 7 PROTESTA
1 . $100.0 . 9 BEST BEWARE
1 . $100.0 . 13 TRULY BEAUTIFUL

C/W RT: 1 MARCHING ( 1-2-6-3 )
FRM RT: 2 BARBARICUS ( 2-12-1-3 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,6,12 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,5,6,7,12 )



MVAL 7 (CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
30 . $3.3 . 8 DRACS BACK
23 . $4.3 . 5 SARRERA
15 . $6.7 . 3 DOLPHIN JO
11 . $9.1 . 13 REGGIE
11 . $9.1 . 1 GALLIC
4 . $25.0 . 14 RED LORD
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3 . $33.3 . 6 VIZ VITAE
2 . $50.0 . 4 LAZER SHARP
2 . $50.0 . 11 JUKEBOX JOHNNY
1 . $100.0 . 7 SCHUMPETER
1 . $100.0 . 9 SPECIAL SCENE

C/W RT: 8 DRACS BACK ( 8-5-1-13 )
FRM RT: 8 DRACS BACK ( 8-3-5-13 )
MULTIS: ( 1,23,5,8,13 ) OR ( 3,5,8 – 1,3,5,8,13,14 )



MVAL 8 (COX PLATE)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
26 . $3.8 . 11 MISS FINLAND
23 . $4.3 . 6 HARADASUN
17 . $5.9 . 1 EL SEGUNDO
11 . $9.1 . 12 DEVIL MOON
6 . $16.7 . 7 EFFICIENT
5 . $20.0 . 10 DIVINE MADONNA
5 . $20.0 . 2 LAD OF THE MANOR
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3 . $33.3 . 3 NICONERO
2 . $50.0 . 5 ZIPPING
2 . $50.0 . 4 MARASCO
1 . $100.0 . 13 ESKIMO QUEEN
1 . $100.0 . 9 MAGIC CAPE

C/W RT: 11 MISS FINLAND ( 11-6-1-12 )
FRM RT: 1 EL SEGUNDO ( 1-11-6-12 )
MULTIS: ( 1,6,7,10,11,12 ) OR ( 1,6,11,12 – 1,2,6,7,10,11,12 )



MVAL 9 (JAYCO CRYSTAL MILE)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 3 SONIC QUEST
14 . $7.1 . 6 FLASH TRICK
12 . $8.3 . 8 PINNACLES
10 . $10.0 . 4 DR NIPANDTUCK
6 . $16.7 . 5 EMERALD JACK
6 . $16.7 . 10 IN THE SHADOWS
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5 . $20.0 . 2 ORANGE COUNTY
2 . $50.0 . 12 TEARS I CRY
2 . $50.0 . 1 GROWL
2 . $50.0 . 7 MIND YOUR HEAD
1 . $100.0 . 11 KELTAH

C/W RT: 3 SONIC QUEST ( 3-8-4-6 )
FRM RT: 3 SONIC QUEST ( 3-6-5-10 )
MULTIS: ( 3,4,5,6,8 ) OR ( 3,6 – 2,3,4,5,6,8,10 )



ASCOT 5 (PLACID ARK STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
54 . $1.9 . 1 DARK TARGET
20 . $5.0 . 2 MY TIME
10 . $10.0 . 3 DANANA SMOOTHIE
6 . $16.7 . 9 MAJOR CANNY
5 . $20.0 . 5 VERSARC
3 . $33.3 . 4 GENERALAZ
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2 . $50.0 . 10 NURSE NORMA
1 . $100.0 . 7 BOLD EMPIRE

C/W RT: 1 DARK TARGET * ( 1-2-3-9 )
FRM RT: 1 DARK TARGET * ( 1-2-3-5 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,5,9 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,4,5,9,10 )



ASCOT 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
48 . $2.1 . 1 DANES MYSTERY
18 . $5.6 . 7 CANNY JACK
13 . $7.7 . 4 DIAMOND HIGHWAY
12 . $8.3 . 6 LACERATE
4 . $25.0 . 12 ISLAND FORCE
4 . $25.0 . 8 BULL DURHAM
-----
2 . $50.0 . 13 LOVE A BUZZ
1 . $100.0 . 5 FOXY BOY

C/W RT: 1 DANES MYSTERY * ( 1-7-4-6 )
FRM RT: 1 DANES MYSTERY * ( 1-7-6-4 )
MULTIS: ( 1,4,6,7,12 ) OR ( 1,7 – 1,4,6,7,8,12,13 )



ASCOT 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 7 EL PRESIDENTE
35 . $2.9 . 8 VAIN CRUSADER
7 . $14.3 . 5 ALPINE LAD
7 . $14.3 . 3 DIAMOND GREY
4 . $25.0 . 11 MIDTIME
4 . $25.0 . 1 LAETARE
-----
3 . $33.3 . 6 CERTAIN GOLD
2 . $50.0 . 4 DRESS SUIT
2 . $50.0 . 10 LONDON COURT
2 . $50.0 . 2 CHANGING LANES

C/W RT: 8 VAIN CRUSADER ( 8-7-3-1 )
FRM RT: 7 EL PRESIDENTE ( 7-8-5-3 )
MULTIS: ( 3,5,7,8,11 ) OR ( 7,8 – 1,3,5,6,7,8,11 )

Sportz
27th October 2007, 01:58 PM
The sooner we get over this EI thing, the better. A real lack of quality racing today (apart from Moonee Valley). I couldn't even find any suitable races at Morphettville. Likewise with Rockhampton, and I ended up including a couple of races from Kembla Grange where the horses haven't run for 2 months. Risky. :o

Sportz
27th October 2007, 09:12 PM
Results (Unitab divs)

KGRA 5
1 AL BE NIMBLE 1.70 1.30
4 REDNRICH 4.40
9 CHIEF HENNESSY 3.90

QN 1*4 17.70
TF 1*4*9 191.70
F4 1*4*9*2 834.80



KGRA 7
1 BEDTIME SECRETS 3.80 1.70
3 REGAL CAT 1.70
7 ELLA LA ROSSA 3.20

QN 1*3 4.80
TF 1*3*7 97.50
F4 1*3*7*9 379.60



MVAL 3
9 ROYAL ASSCHER 2.10 1.30
7 EL MANDON 2.10
6 WILSONS PROMONTORY 16.90

QN 7*9 7.00
TF 9*7*6 491.00
F4 9*7*6*1 2512.60



MVAL 6
1 MARCHING 5.00 2.00
6 KIBBUTZ 2.40
2 BARBARICUS 1.60

QN 1*6 19.60
TF 1*6*2 92.80
F4 1*6*2*4 1018.20



MVAL 7
1 GALLIC 10.10 3.20
4 LAZER SHARP 2.60
11 JUKEBOX JOHNNY 9.50

QN 1*4 38.50
TF 1*4*11 2302.80
F4 1*4*11*5 14110.40



MVAL 8
1 EL SEGUNDO 6.20 2.40
8 WONDERFUL WORLD 8.30
6 HARADASUN 2.00

QN 1*8 146.50
TF 1*8*6 1312.10
F4 1*8*6*11 6050.20



MVAL 9
3 SONIC QUEST 3.40 1.60
2 ORANGE COUNTY 2.90
12 TEARS I CRY 6.10

QN 2*3 17.90
TF 3*2*12 500.50
F4 3*2*12*5 3461.20



ASCOT 5
2 MY TIME 7.80 1.80
9 MAJOR CANNY 3.00
10 NURSE NORMA 3.00

QN 2*9 47.60
TF 2*9*10 397.80
F4 2*9*10*1 1318.60



ASCOT 7
1 DANES MYSTERY 1.90 1.10
8 BULL DURHAM 3.20
7 CANNY JACK 1.60

QN 1*8 12.90
TF 1*8*7 69.20
F4 1*8*7*9 380.20



ASCOT 9
7 EL PRESIDENTE 2.00 1.20
8 VAIN CRUSADER 1.60
5 ALPINE LAD 2.60

QN 7*8 3.10
TF 7*8*5 39.50
F4 7*8*5*10 219.80

Sportz
31st October 2007, 01:23 PM
Wednesday, October 31

Not a great day today. Most races seem to be too open or have no value.

WERR 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
41 . $2.4 . 2 GEE UP
33 . $3.0 . 5 JUNGLE RULER
13 . $7.7 . 3 WHAT'S THE TIME
10 . $10.0 . 8 PROSPECT
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3 . $33.3 . 4 PHOENIX EXPRESS
1 . $100.0 . 7 MONTCALM

C/W RT: 2 GEE UP * ( 2-5-3-8 )
FRM RT: 5 JUNGLE RULER ( 5-2-3-8 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,5,8 ) OR ( 2,5 – 2,3,4,5,8 )



WERR 8 (WERRIBEE CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 13 EXTEND
14 . $7.1 . 10 BALLACK
13 . $7.7 . 5 LACEY UNDERALL
10 . $10.0 . 2 BLUE COLLAR JACK
8 . $12.5 . 1 BAUGHURST
8 . $12.5 . 7 SALIENTE
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6 . $16.7 . 12 DANCE ON BOARD
5 . $20.0 . 6 ROANOKE
5 . $20.0 . 11 ROYAL SINGER
5 . $20.0 . 4 STAMEN
3 . $33.3 . 8 SILENT ACTION

C/W RT: 13 EXTEND ( 13-7-1-10 )
FRM RT: 13 EXTEND ( 13-2-10-5 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,5,10,13 ) OR ( 10,13 – 1,2,5,7,10,12,13 )



BALAK 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
52 . $1.9 . 5 MAKTUUB
14 . $7.1 . 11 WONSOK
10 . $10.0 . 8 OUR SILVER LORD
8 . $12.5 . 2 JUST A GIGGLE
5 . $20.0 . 1 GUNCHASE
5 . $20.0 . 6 BENEHIL
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2 . $50.0 . 3 ULLRICH
2 . $50.0 . 10 SURE PAINT
2 . $50.0 . 9 SHALOTTO
2 . $50.0 . 13 WELL ACTED
1 . $100.0 . 14 WE THREE KINGS
1 . $100.0 . 7 NAPLES BAY

C/W RT: 5 MAKTUUB * ( 5-2-11-8 )
FRM RT: 5 MAKTUUB * ( 5-11-8-1 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,5,8,11 ) OR ( 5,8,11 – 1,2,5,6,8,11 )



ASCOT 2
RT . ODDS . HORSE
47 . $2.1 . 4 DESERT ACE
20 . $5.0 . 5 EXHILARATING
10 . $10.0 . 11 TURBO CHARGED
10 . $10.0 . 10 OUTSIDE EDGE
6 . $16.7 . 6 BESWINGING
6 . $16.7 . 3 STIRRUP IRON JACK
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2 . $50.0 . 1 ROSSAM
1 . $100.0 . 2 SPECIAL WITNESS

C/W RT: 4 DESERT ACE * ( 4-5-10-11 )
FRM RT: 4 DESERT ACE * ( 4-5-11-10 )
MULTIS: ( 4,5,6,10,11 ) OR ( 4,5 – 1,3,4,5,6,10,11 )



ASCOT 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
47 . $2.1 . 3 VIZARD
22 . $4.5 . 2 SOLIDWICKEDCRUEL
15 . $6.7 . 5 CHINA VISIT
10 . $10.0 . 6 GALLIVANTER
4 . $25.0 . 4 NOWA NOWA
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3 . $33.3 . 1 FIM MARU

C/W RT: 3 VIZARD ( 3-2-5-6 )
FRM RT: 3 VIZARD * ( 3-5-2-6 )
MULTIS: ( 2,3,4,5,6 ) OR ( 2,3,5 – 1,2,3,4,5,6 )

Sportz
31st October 2007, 10:39 PM
Sure was a tough end to the month.

Results (Unitab divs)

WERR 4
8 PROSPECT 6.30 3.30
5 JUNGLE RULER 1.70
4 PHOENIX EXPRESS NTD

QN 5*8 10.00
TF 8*5*4 193.60
F4 8*5*4*2 406.00



WERR 8
1 BAUGHURST 10.70 3.50
13 EXTEND 1.50
7 SALIENTE 3.60

QN 1*13 16.00
TF 1*13*7 226.60
F4 1*13*7*4 5003.80



BALAK 6
11 WONSOK 7.00 2.10
5 MAKTUUB 1.10
2 JUST A GIGGLE 2.70

QN 5*11 5.00
TF 11*5*2 88.20
F4 11*5*2*10 216.20



ASCOT 2
1 ROSSAM 72.50 13.00
5 EXHILARATING 2.00
10 OUTSIDE EDGE 1.90

QN 1*5 165.40
TF 1*5*10 1676.10
F4 JACKPOT 1*5*10*6 2639.75



ASCOT 3
3 VIZARD 2.00 1.00
2 SOLIDWICKEDCRUEL 2.20
6 GALLIVANTER 1.80

QN 2*3 6.40
TF 3*2*6 24.10
F4 3*2*6*1 135.60

Sportz
31st October 2007, 11:49 PM
There were a couple of small errors in the results summary for the three strategies that I posted earlier in the month. Anyway, I've fixed them and updated the figures now that the month is up.

Strategy 1:

Aug: Races 39, Wins 24 (62%), Out $2258, In $2581.4, Profit $323.40 (14.3%)
Sep: Races 52, Wins 31 (60%), Out $3029, In $3636.70, Profit $607.70 (20.0%)
Oct: Races 34, Wins 24 (71%), Out $1997, In $2384.40, Profit $387.40 (19.4%)
Total: Races 125, Wins 79 (63%), Out $7284, In $8602.50, Profit $1318.50 (18.1%)

Strategy 2:

Aug: Races 28, Wins 19 (68%), Out $1628, In $1945.20, Profit $317.20 (19.5%)
Sep: Races 32, Wins 21 (66%), Out $1913, In $2486.70, Profit $573.70 (30%)
Oct: Races 14, Wins 10 (71%), Out $855, In $833.40, Loss $16.60 (2%)
Total: Races 74, Wins 50 (68%), Out $4396, In $5265.30, Profit $869.30 (19.8%)

Strategy 3:

Aug: Races 10, Wins 6 (60%), Out $600, In $796, Profit $196 (32.6%)
Sep: Races 8, Wins 6 (75%), Out $480, In $864, Profit $384 (80%)
Oct: Races 4, Wins 4 (100%), Out $240, In $392, Profit $152 (63.3%)
Total: Races 22, Wins 16 (73%), Out $1320, In $2052, Profit $732 (55.5%)

Sportz
2nd November 2007, 11:17 AM
Okay, I've done a bit more research. I decided to test out a couple of different staking methods on the betting strategy races, because those are the races I think are most suitable for backing the top 2 raters. Firstly, I went over all the strategy 1 selections and I bet exactly the same amount per race as I did with the original rules, but this time I simply saved on the shorter priced selection and I bet all of the rest on the longer priced runner. And then, I also worked out what the result would have been just using plain old level stakes - $30 on both selections no matter what price.

Here are the results:

Strategy 1 - Out $7284, In $8602.50, Profit $1318.50 (18.1%)
Back/Save - Out $7284, In $8610.60, Profit $1326.60 (18.2%)
Level stake - Out $7500, In $8883.00, Profit $1383.00 (18.4%)

So there you go. 3 very different staking methods and the end result was VERY similar with level stakes coming out just slightly in front. Interesting.



And here are some more stats from the strategy 1 races since August.

Top rated: 125, Wins 51, Return $147.20, Profit $22.20 (17.8%)
2nd rated: 125, Wins 28, Return $148.90, Profit $23.90 (19.1%)

Shortest priced: 126*, Wins 50, Return $139.70, Profit $13.70 (10.8%)
Longest priced: 124, Wins 29, Return $156.40, Profit $32.40 (26.1%)

(* one race had equal priced runners, so I included both of them in the shortest priced category)

That's certainly food for thought. 26.1% profit for the longer priced runner as opposed to just 10.8% profit for the shorter price. Something to look at for the future.

Sportz
2nd November 2007, 11:26 AM
Now here's another betting strategy to look at. It's similar to Strategy 3, but not as selective. It's an idea I've been looking at for a while and it seems to work.

Strategy 4:

(1) Concentrate on races where the C/W RT selection and the FRM RT selection are two different horses. There must be one sole selection for each method, no equal selections.

(2) Back both runners, providing that they are the first two horses listed in the ratings. Also, the top rater must have at least 30 points and the 2nd top rater has at least 15 points.

(3) Again, only bet if the top two ratings add up to no more than 65 points.

(4) Bet the same amount on both selections. For the purpose of this exercise, we'll bet $30 on each runner, so we're betting roughly what we bet on the other three strategies.

Here's a recent example:

MVAL 6 (AAMI VASE)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 2 BARBARICUS
30 . $3.3 . 1 MARCHING
12 . $8.3 . 3 DAVCON
10 . $10.0 . 12 THESANDMANCAN
10 . $10.0 . 6 KIBBUTZ
3 . $33.3 . 5 ON THE WARPATH
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2 . $50.0 . 7 PROTESTA
1 . $100.0 . 9 BEST BEWARE
1 . $100.0 . 13 TRULY BEAUTIFUL

C/W RT: 1 MARCHING ( 1-2-6-3 )
FRM RT: 2 BARBARICUS ( 2-12-1-3 )
MULTIS: ( 1,2,3,6,12 ) OR ( 1,2 – 1,2,3,5,6,7,12 )

As you can see, Marching was the C/W RT selection and Barbaricus was the FRM RT selection, and they were the top two rated runners in the race. This is the type of race we're looking for with this strategy.

Unlike the other strategies, we're betting equal amounts on both runners. This means that on the odd occasion, you might actually lose money on a race despite getting the winner, but it also means that you can get a great result if a good priced selection comes home.

Results so far this season using Unitab divs:

Aug: Races 12, Wins 7 (58%), Out $720, In $912, Profit $192 (26.7%)
Sep: Races 14, Wins 10 (71%), Out $840, In $1305, Profit $465 (55.4%)
Oct: Races 12, Wins 11 (92%), Out $720, In $1278, Profit $558 (77.5%)
Total: Races 38, Wins 28 (74%), Out $2280, In $3495, Profit $1215 (53.3%)



After looking at the past 3 months results, I guess my recommendation would probably be to use the Strategy 1 selections in conjunction with either Strategy 3 or Strategy 4.