Is this Copyright? -please explain

[King Cugat]

Moderator can you please explain why the site racing trades dot com has threads from this site posted under different id names please?
i recently posted a thread on a horse called Ultimate Risk that involved both Chrome Prince & myself. I now find it on this other site under different names not to mention other threads from here.
Why would my posts come up under a site i have nothing to do with please?

Any post i make under the name King Cugat or anyone else makes under their log in name shouldnt be used any where else under a different author. Its called copyright! its also against media laws.

[AngryPixie]

I'm hurt. Nothing I've posted about seems worthy of copying :( ;)

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Registered in Australia to a Gold Coast Post Office Box. Well that figures.

Site hosted from Silicon Valley Infomedia. Looks to be in Texas though the contact address is in India Mr Mod.

[lomaca]

I'm hurt. Nothing I've posted about seems worthy of copying

Don't worry AngryPixie,
I am sure you have been copied too. Why, even Benny's thread, about spreadsheets is there, word for word, with all the other comments, under different nicks.
My posts appear under different names as well, and until this morning I never even knew the site existed.
If they want to scoop up my inconsequential and useless offerings, they are welcome to it.
Cheers

[Chiquita]

they've mirrored the Summer Punting Comp thread but have forgot to change forumite names already imbedded in the posts LOL

[Chiquita]

wonder if they'll mirror this thread LOL LOL

[King Cugat]

As i dont run either site i'm not financially any worse off for copyright infingements.

My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"

[AngryPixie]

Why, even Benny's thread, about spreadsheets is there

You mean Darrell's thread :D

[AngryPixie]

As i dont run either site i'm not financially any worse off for copyright infingements.

My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"

See what you mean Fergie :p

[Sportz]

What the....? This is a disgrace. They've taken all my ratings and posted them all there under different names. I mean, every single days thread has a different user name attached to it. How bizarre.

[Shaun]

Send them a nice please explain e-mail and see what you get back.

[Shaun]

They would be using some automated software to do this, wonder if this thread will end up there.

[lomaca]

My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"

Hi KC!
Now, for <b>that</b> I would sue!!!
Good luck

[AngryPixie]

Look's like they actually want you to give them access to your Betfair account so they can bet on your behalf. Where do I sign up? :eek:

[King Cugat]

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the bottom lines

Dwayne..... back to our original arguement ....and you say theres no corruption in the horse industry :)

lomaca hi.....dont call me Sue

[Shaun]

Well i just gave them a call and explain the situation to the guy on the phone, he says he will check it out and get back to me in a few hours, this will be interesting.

[peterpan]

As i dont run either site i'm not financially any worse off for copyright infingements.

My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"
Thats not as bad as Chrome Prince being called Gladys on the seeding thread.

[King Cugat]

Well i just gave them a call and explain the situation to the guy on the phone, he says he will check it out and get back to me in a few hours, this will be interesting.
Hi i was after Cyril please......

[Crackone]

have not looked at the site but I think once anything is published on the net (public domain) I think it can be copied and evan sold.

[lomaca]

Well I have to give them 10 out of 10 for a marketing ploy, and for being an equal opportunity filch.
They have whole pages of other forums as well.
Must say, if I had written the parsing routine for them I would have been more imaginative with the names.
I bet their hits had increased beyond expectations.

[King Cugat]

have not looked at the site but I think once anything is published on the net (public domain) I think it can be copied and evan sold.
Cracky, your prob right.
If it was actually someting important in the world Media Watch would be all over it. They love that type of thing. I think the difference here is that they havent taken pieces of information and combined it with other info & their own thoughts as most journos do to make up their stories. They have actually taken posts in their entire content and then added false names.

[crash]

Moderator can you please explain why the site racing trades dot com has threads from this site posted under different id names please?
i recently posted a thread on a horse called Ultimate Risk that involved both Chrome Prince & myself. I now find it on this other site under different names not to mention other threads from here.
Why would my posts come up under a site i have nothing to do with please?

Any post i make under the name King Cugat or anyone else makes under their log in name shouldnt be used any where else under a different author. Its called copyright! its also against media laws.

Your wrong, you have no copyright. Read the rules.
When you signed up as a member you agreed that anything you print here is owned by the site. The fact is anything you or any member prints here is copyrighted to the forum owners. They can use it anyway they like , even sell it. Nobody reads the rules of membership.

[suds]

Your wrong, you have no copyright. Read the rules.
When you signed up as a member you agreed that anything you print here is owned by the site. The fact is anything you or any member prints here is copyrighted to the forum owners. They can use it anyway they like , even sell it. Nobody reads the rules of membership.

interesting to see what this forum owners do (as a follow-up), if they really do have legal right to this forums content.

[Chiquita]

interesting to see what this forum owners do (as a follow-up), if they really do have legal right to this forums content.

good point suds

anyone check their post times
were they clever enough to make it look like they did it first?

[Chiquita]

our threads are in their full under false names << thats the issue. My thoughts are under someone elses name.
Some of the boys in here who take so much time to put together ratings etc...they are not getting the credit for it.
How do you think they feel.
We deserve an answer...

agree KC...a lot of time & effort put in by many forumites

[King Cugat]

added so re-replyed

our threads are in their full under false names << thats the issue. My thoughts are under someone elses name. If it was my name i would see how it works but under different names = purposely misleading <<< thats the point....purposely misleading. Sell posts, name goes with it.
Some of the boys in here like Sportz who take so much time to put together ratings etc...they are not getting the credit for what they do.
How do you think they feel.
Opinions are 1 thing to buy and sell but when someone is shown to have put in time in a specialised field where others can advantage (ratings)it would be decent to tell them where their knowledge is being sent other then where they originally post their articles << which is where they feel comfortable with posting and am happy to share with those they know for free who perhaps have helped them at one stage in return
Sports goes to alot of effort. Ok if they put his name together with those ratings on another site then no damage to his good reputation. For Sportz to go over there and see that everybody but him is getting credit for HIS work..... << copyright is the word regardless of what rules state here.
If they said we can go into your bank account and withdraw all your money upon signing up here.....that doesnt make it legal. They can type whatever they want....doesnt mean its law.
Im not even saying they [pro punter] know anything about it. i would be surprised if they did
We deserve an answer...sportz especially. Regardless of whether it was sold or stolen.

[Stix]

What the....? This is a disgrace. They've taken all my ratings and posted them all there under different names. I mean, every single days thread has a different user name attached to it. How bizarre.
LOL.... Collingwood !!!! :D That IS Gold !!!

[Sportz]

Yeah, out of all names, that is one I certainly wouldn't have chosen!!! :eek:

[Horse Whisperer]

I found my posts under heaps of different names.

Carter
Nathaniel
Zeo
Timothy
ajasoni

lol where do they get these names from

Also maybe the fact the mods havnt reply'd might be due to the fact they have something to do with the forum or are selling the posts?

[crash]

Print anything here and it is no longer yours. Every member has agreed. Ignorance of the rules just doesn't cut it ... weep all you want.

[King Cugat]

Print anything here and it is no longer yours. Every member has agreed. Ignorance of the rules just doesn't cut it ... weep all you want.if someone typed something on this site that nobody took offence to. Then it was sold to another site & for whatever reason someone in another country did take offence to it OR what was said was brought to be injust in another country and someone from this other country decided to take legal action. They claim in writing to have been to the 'other site' to find this piece of evidence & have never seen the original site that it was posted on, perhaps because it wasnt written in their language or whatever. Who would be held liable? The poster or the seller of information from one site to the other? Does the shoe fit the same foot all the time?

Crash your not listening to the question being asked. Its theirs to own we understand, there is no ignorance. They can sell ....sure
The question is >> re-printing words / Paragraphs / in full under someone elses name where its obvious its done so to mislead the public. Also should the name of the poster be carried over in the selling process if its to be re-used again with the intent of not adding any further information to it. Do you or do you not know the answer that question 100% correctly Crash? The question of being morally just to those that keep your site running is the next one after that

[Shaun]

What are the odds this info was sold by this site 10/9 , 2/1 , 5/1 , 7/1 , 10/1

[AngryPixie]

I'd be very surprised if the posts have been sold. My guess is that the other forum is being padded with fake posts in an attempt to add some weight and substance behind whatever it is that they are trying to sell. If it looks like people are around then something good must be going on. What's the bet that you can't even post to it.

[lomaca]

KC!
it's all fixed! I am "Ferguson" now. LOL
If you check one thread on that site (under the same name) that had generated quite a discussion here a few weeks back, I'm quoted twice, once as Declan and once as Ferguson
I think this is like Angry said, they try to simulate traffic, but it's a joke, the posts are disconnected and make little sense most of the time.
Cheers

[DR RON]

I just posted a message on there which shows up on the forum listing but the post dosent show up when I view the topic?

[Stix]

Print anything here and it is no longer yours. Every member has agreed. Ignorance of the rules just doesn't cut it ... weep all you want.Hope you didn''t have kids crash..... poor little'uns would of known there was no Santa at 6 months !!! :p

[crash]

if someone typed something on this site that nobody took offence to. Then it was sold to another site & for whatever reason someone in another country did take offence to it OR what was said was brought to be injust in another country and someone from this other country decided to take legal action. They claim in writing to have been to the 'other site' to find this piece of evidence & have never seen the original site that it was posted on, perhaps because it wasnt written in their language or whatever. Who would be held liable? The poster or the seller of information from one site to the other? Does the shoe fit the same foot all the time?

Crash your not listening to the question being asked. Its theirs to own we understand, there is no ignorance. They can sell ....sure
The question is >> re-printing words / Paragraphs / in full under someone elses name where its obvious its done so to mislead the public. Also should the name of the poster be carried over in the selling process if its to be re-used again with the intent of not adding any further information to it. Do you or do you not know the answer that question 100% correctly Crash? The question of being morally just to those that keep your site running is the next one after that

I'm not dumb. I understood the question which I have answered twice. Problem is, some posters are having trouble understanding the broad significance contained in my simple answer, which I'm not going to repeat.

[King Cugat]

THE GRINCH[/b]]I'm not dumb. I understood the question which I have answered twice. Problem is, some posters are having trouble understanding the broad significance contained in my simple answer, which I'm not going to repeat.
Cut from the other site whilst i was there ^^^^^^^

Bet i can make you repeat it :)

p.s. u didnt answer it. Youve just said what we all know. Refer back to them saying we can withdraw $$ from our accounts if we sign up. We know what they have written doesnt mean its legal. Youve only repeated what they have written or claim they can do..... not whether those claims are actually legal if carried out
Crash do you think they're getting 1/3 or 1/4 of the cut by selling?

[Shaun]

By the silence from the mods i am shortening the odds these were sold to that other place into $1.o4 any takers?

[rabbitz]

Moderators on this forum have always been total wimps when it comes to answering Forumites questions
Watch how long it takes this comment to disappear LOL

[AngryPixie]

By the silence from the mods i am shortening the odds these were sold to that other place into $1.o4 any takers?

No there's stuff from all over the place. Put a few sentences in Google and see.

[King Cugat]

Crash


i'm a little dissapointed with what ive found on the other site. Thought you were more solid then that.

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[crash]

I guess you have worked out next Saturday's tattslotto numbers by now too[?]

[Mr Quaddie]

12, 26, 33, 4, 42, 44

27, 39

Enjoy.

[rabbitz]

Hey maybe no one runs this forum and the deletions of certain words etc is automated and this other forum hacked in and stole the threads or laboriouslycopied certain threads for their own promotion

[lomaca]

12, 26, 33, 4, 42, 44

27, 39

Enjoy.
Hi Quaddie,
I think you got most of them right but I have a niggling feel about 33! and 44! Somehow they seem to be too, how shall I put it, <b>repetitive!?</b>
Otherwise I concur, how did you get them?
The only proper way is by handicapping you know! (must watch the video replay as well!!!
Can't have any riff-raff method (heaven forbid a SYSTEM!) around here, nosiree!
Good luck

[Mark]

Unfortunately the moderator(s) lack of response makes them and this site a laughing stock. Put up a competitor's name or ask a question about an obvious ******** and they jump on it, but this topic is left unanswered.

ps whoever started the thread, "Hi my name is crash" wins this years gold award.


s c a m I rest my case.

[King Cugat]

Unfortunately the moderator(s) lack of response makes them and this site a laughing stock. Put up a competitor's name or ask a question about an obvious ******** and they jump on it, but this topic is left unanswered.

ps whoever started the thread, "Hi my name is crash" wins this years gold award.


s c a m I rest my case.
I reckon Crash started that thread :)

[Management]

Thank you, King Cugat.

This is being looked into.

Management.

[King Cugat]

Always happy to help. :)

[crash]

I wouldn't be surprised if we have a bit of a home-grown problem here. A bit of detective work doesn't go astray. Everyone has their own idiosyncrasies when it comes to writing posts, just like handwriting!

A copy and paste from the site that was [ironicaly] posted there today:
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hi everyone my name is crash. Im a bit of a dope but thats ok. i can supply an answer to all your questions and usually do, well sort of! I hope nobody will steal my nick here although that doesnt matter because i dont really own it now i'm registered. Soon i will tell you all about how clever i really am. Stay tuned
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Hmmmm, usually no apostrophes, sometimes capitals to start a sentence and sometimes not and usually a small i instead of capital I for first person. Often fails to use a full stop at the end of a post too.

It wouldn't conclusively prove anything, except maybe a strong smell of fish here, but anyone with half a brain would start looking in this thread [or others] for a match of typing style. It certainly doesn't match mine!

[King Cugat]

crash. I've been looking into it aswell. we need to share notes. I think we're onto something here.
P.S. My dog wants to know what your favourite brand of dog biscuits are. << He read your post over there.

[crash]

Yep, I think we sure are. Watch out [especially] for anyone starting to use apostrophes from now on.

Another post on that site today:

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has anyone in here seen the pro punter moderator. thought i might ask incase he's out the back somewhere
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incase?

[Chrome Prince]

I'll give odds of 1000/1 that this is a legit sell.

Guy and Neil would not sell the forum content under any circumstances - why would they?
It's an obvious hack and a weak effort to trade on search engine ranking - it may even be someone with a beef.
I can guaranteee if there is any way to bring these culprits to justice, it will be done.

Gladys???

Why Gladys???

Ooh - I just dropped a stitch ;)

[King Cugat]

Gladys???

Why Gladys???

Ooh - I just dropped a stitch
i knew you had some humour in there somewhere ;)

They did call you Nobleman somewhere in their Chrome. < That's what tipped me off.

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Crash. I've got someone sussed out. Let's just say theres 4 sides to everything Mister.

[Chuck]

personally i think that Rock Steady, Primo and Czar are behind it, and have been plotting to get back and everyone for some time ;)

[lomaca]

Curiouser and Curiouser!
Now most of the post referred to, on the mysterious site have disappeared. Even Crash's posts!
Why is that so??

[AngryPixie]

Well i just gave them a call and explain the situation to the guy on the phone, he says he will check it out and get back to me in a few hours, this will be interesting.
Let's guess, you spoke to David right?

[Chrome Prince]

Great stuff, they've been silenced ;)

[King Cugat]

good work crash. you were like a tyrant in there. i still would like an explination to this post though you had over there




usuf wrote


The market will suffer and has been building for a few years....i dont agree with your pet food assumptions....i hope you tip better than the disrespect you show to a defenceless animal.


Crash writes.


i eat petfood for lunch....crunchies only though i like when the bits stay in my teeth.

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you write comedy scripts Crash? brilliant work. some of your best.

[Stix]

I'll give odds of 1000/1 that this is a legit sell.

Guy and Neil would not sell the forum content under any circumstances - why would they?
It's an obvious hack and a weak effort to trade on search engine ranking - it may even be someone with a beef.
I can guaranteee if there is any way to bring these culprits to justice, it will be done.

Gladys???

Why Gladys???

Ooh - I just dropped a stitch ;)Agreed Chrome, Guy and Neil are straight ahead guys......

I finger....hmmm.....let me see........um.... I reckon it's got Brian4p written all over it..... and if not it has to be Darky :D

[Shaun]

It looks like a brand new unused forum now.

[rabbitz]

Thank you, King Cugat.

This is being looked into.

Management.

I wonder who the new member is and why they chose MANAGEMENT as their user name LOL

[crash]

As the posts have disappeared on that other site, I guess they traced the IP address and identified and removed all the 'members' and posts using that IP [?]

If the culprit is a member here, I'm sure Management could match the IP.
Then we could have a burning!

[crash]

Useful information? Sportz's ratings aside, the majority of the posts were meaningless and mostly gibberish written by a would be clown.

Your entitled to your conspiracy theories Shaun, but there no better than anyone else's.

[King Cugat]

If the culprit is a member here, I'm sure Management could match the IP.
Then we could have a burning!
Crash, save me a seat up front with you. I'll bring the nibblies though. not into the pet stuff

[Moderator 3]

Once again thank you for bringing this to our notice.

Now it is time to move on and post in other threads on other topics.

Moderator.