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partypooper
19th December 2009, 06:38 PM
Partypoopers Plum Movers,...winners a bit thin; but we tasted the Mustard in SR8-12 $26, ensuring not too much harm done,..... a couple of possibilities stil to come at Perth

lomaca
19th December 2009, 11:13 PM
Partypoopers Plum Movers,...winners a bit thin; but we tasted the Mustard in SR8-12 $26, ensuring not too much harm done,..... a couple of possibilities stil to come at PerthHi Party,

Not a bad day over all, just by following every PPMs where qualified, finished up for the win $18.20 for the place $23.10.

One could have also stopped after the place divi of $23.30 (supertab) on DOO r5 No. 20 Al Mazaya.

I betcha not a lot of people have the courage or the conviction that the system works, to follow this for any length of time. I can't blame them, can be a long time between drinks.

Good luck

partypooper
20th December 2009, 02:18 PM
Lomaca, yeah well , a bit of fun remember,.... SaRatoza put the icing on the cake yesterday (again) hey what was that about 3rd letter "R" hahahah!

lomaca
20th December 2009, 04:17 PM
Lomaca, yeah well , a bit of fun remember,well party, you know what I do for the main punt, but I don't discard a good thing when I see one!

Fun it may be (and it is, as I pointed out before, chuckling at the "************'s" comments, when they come in), but it turned out to be a good money-spinner for me as well.

Needs discipline and a bit of common sense, not unlike the system someone on this forum mentioned re. winners of listed races.
Have to do a bit of research and treat past wins with caution

If one follows your PPMs properly and puts some time into it, they will find that a lot of horses are recurring as selections but never even place, look into the background of these horses and I'm sure you will find that most of them can be eliminated, and that is what this game is about, not betting on obvious losers!!

Cheers and good luck.

Ps, all those stars stand for "people who think they know it all", can't understand the censoring, but there you go!

Chrome Prince
20th December 2009, 05:54 PM
Yes, I think if you use common sense and have a look at the chances of some of those bottomweights, there are non triers and those just out of form, or up in class.
A rank outsider has many career influences, is it the opposition or the horse itself.

In the case of Mustard a 4th at Rosehill last start certainly isn't bad form, but for the life of me can't see that it ever won over 1400m, it won at Randwick but never over 1400m, yet TABONLINE has it DWT???

I have it as 4 starts over 1400 for no placings (until yesterday)

lomaca
20th December 2009, 06:26 PM
In the case of Mustard a 4th at Rosehill last start certainly isn't bad form, but for the life of me can't see that it ever won over 1400m
Winner on TRACK OR Distance CP

Mustard has a good win and place record at Rosehill!

Cheers

Ps, actually speaking of the listed winner idea, Mustard is a G3 winner at Rosehill!

partypooper
20th December 2009, 06:36 PM
Chrome, don't really know if thats right or not my form doesn't go back that far, I just take the WA TAB -FORM as correct they have it winning at 1400 metres TWICE from 14 starts + 4 placings

lomaca
20th December 2009, 06:55 PM
Chrome, don't really know if thats right or not my form doesn't go back that far, I just take the WA TAB -FORM as correct they have it winning at 1400 metres TWICE from 14 starts + 4 placings Yup, definite distance winner!
Just checked.

lomaca
1st January 2010, 03:35 PM
PPMs strike again, less then a third way through the day and two good winners to close betting for today.

FLE race 2 NULLARBOR CROSSING $32
GOC race 5 Classy Felix $12

Good luck

Ps add MUB race 5 Grand title place $4.30

partypooper
2nd January 2010, 02:25 AM
PPMs strike again, less then a third way through the day and two good winners to close betting for today.

FLE race 2 NULLARBOR CROSSING $32
GOC race 5 Classy Felix $12

Good luck

Ps add MUB race 5 Grand title place $4.30

A few more later as well, but Maxi or Sportsbet paid $51 for Nullarbor Crossing, big difference ey?

lomaca
2nd January 2010, 10:08 AM
A few more later as wellYes I know, but I found if you have a good winner or two it pays to stop, because at the end of day you may not be better off, or may even give it all back.

I know, stopping when ahead is an anathema to many punters, but if you know your strike rate and pattern of winners it is the way to go.
Can turn an OK day into a brilliant one, but each to his own!

Maxi or Sportsbet paid $51 for Nullarbor Crossing, big difference ey?It certainly is a big difference, unfortunately I don't have an account with them, and have only a very small betting limit with some bookies, so I just use Supertab, or sometimes Betfair, but it's very frustrating when you don't get matched for the full amount on Betfair.

Still $30 is a lot better than a poke in the eye, and everyone can use PPMs!
There are a few things to look at, that vastly improves the strike rate, but it's all there for anyone to see, just look!

Good luck

lomaca
2nd January 2010, 11:20 PM
Yes I know, but I found if you have a good winner or two it pays to stop, because at the end of day you may not be better off, or may even give it all back.
To prove the point, today, betting on all PPM qualifiers one would have lost $0.80 cents, however there were a number of times when you would have been up as much as $14.00 or $11.00 at times, and never down more than $6.00 for the win.

Just a hint, leave alone races with less than 8 runners, too many times they come third in those races.

Another hint, most of these horses don't win often, so look for the number of past races between wins and so you can avoid a lot of losing bets.

Start betting on them when they are about due to win again.
Don't go overboard and over analyse, that would ruin the simplicity of the system.

Good luck

partypooper
3rd January 2010, 02:25 AM
good points there Lomaca, gotta admit I've never really looked into it in depth.

But I do like big race days, and carnivals.