New UniTAb site

[thorns]

I see UniTAB has a new site.
However, it now seems I can only view results from this year.
That is a shame, was the best site out there for back testing.

edit: looking at it more, its terrible for back testing. You cant just flick through a race card like you used to be able, need to go back and forward on your browser to select the next race.

Boo UniTAB, give me back the old site!

[Shaun]

It has some nice features, adjusting to your local time is nice, expanding just the race code you want.

Maybe they are still updating the results pages and yes i would like to see the old race selection at the bottom.

Also the tips are normally on the page by this time

[Gnarkley]

Hi Thorns,
I have emailed the webmaster and offered some feedback, including your reservations on the new site.
I don't expect it to have any effect but I thought they should know we are not overly impressed. Made me feel better anyway.
Gnarkley

[Surround]

I agree with all the above.
Also I find Web Queries are now much more difficult to use than the old site.

[thorns]

It has some nice features, adjusting to your local time is nice, expanding just the race code you want.

Maybe they are still updating the results pages and yes i would like to see the old race selection at the bottom.

Also the tips are normally on the page by this timeFor actual betting, it does look alot nicer and is probably a better design.
I just (used to) like there site for backtesting, and playing with there 100 raters.

[AngryPixie]

Was the XML feed there before? That's a nice feature with lot's of uses for developers. Thank you UniTAB http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[thorns]

I might have to learn how to use this XML feature.

I also emailed them asking for a race number selector at the bottom when viewing previous dates racing like they used to have. If they add that, and some previous years results like they used to have, I will be a happy camper once more.

[AngryPixie]

I might have to learn how to use this XML feature.
The first thing that came to mind was how much easier it'll be to automatically update the start time in your Betfair bot to cater for rescheduled races.

[thorns]

The first thing that came to mind was how much easier it'll be to automatically update the start time in your Betfair bot to cater for rescheduled races.Is the XML feed something you can use to grab all the results and fields off the site, to use in creating a database of sorts?

[AngryPixie]

Yes looks like you can grab fields, UniTAB ratings, tipsters, scratchings, riders, weather and track conditions, pool sizes etc. Results maybe too I guess.

http://unitab.com/data/racing/2010/2/1/VR2.xml (http://unitab.com/data/racing/2010/1/31/QR.xml)

[Gnarkley]

Hi Thorns,
Got an email back from Unitab.
Results will only be available from Dec. 09.
There are no plans to include anything further back than that.
Gnarkley

[Twodogs]

Try this if you don't like the new one!!

www.tabonline.com.au/today.htm

Cheers
Twodogs

[Bhagwan]

Now that's how the site should be.
Well done Twodogs

That new site looks like it was created by someone who never bets.

With all the money it turns over.
It has managed to set itself back 10 years.

The managers who signed off on this, should give reason why they should be kept employed.
It's cumbersome.
It's terrible.

[Michal]

I like it ! I think its a great improvement visual wise.

Its thumbs up for me.

Please dont have a go at me for expressing my own opinion , I am not reflecting on anyones either.

[peter m]

Try this if you don't like the new one!!

www.tabonline.com.au/today.htm (http://www.tabonline.com.au/today.htm)

Cheers
Twodogs Thanks for that Twodogs....how did you find it?
I've played around withthe url and you can go back to 1.1.'08 for past results.Don't know how long the old version will be available though.

Does anyone know if it's possible to download all the info day by day from the past results and copy it onto disc for the pupose of going through past results as it's good for playing around with ideas to see if they have any merit.
I'm not computer savvy so haven't a clue. Thanks.

I too find the new site a lot slower and cumbersome than the old one and miss the race to race number feature at the bottom. Not too good for researching past results etc but the new features are easy enough to read.

[Twodogs]

Have used the link for years! Chanced upon it by accident when doing some research and at present is the only option to back check results.

Cheers
Twodogs

[Chrome Prince]

They supply an xml feed, but that is not historical, I would have thought if they supply an xml feed, that historical meetings would have been uploaded.

I don't think any of the tabs realise just how many people want and refer often to old tab data.
When supertab changed it's site the first time, they were amazed at the number of emails regarding the lack of historical results.

The old site will remain temporarily and then be shut down, so get in quick if you want the data :(

[Sportz]

Try this if you don't like the new one!!

www.tabonline.com.au/today.htm

Cheers
Twodogs

And you can use this one for tomorrow's races.......

www.tabonline.com.au/tomorrow.htm

[Michal]

Hi All ,

The old Race to race number feature some of you miss is now AT THE TOP instead, just under the Selection strip with all the Race codes for the day .

[thorns]

Hi All ,

The old Race to race number feature some of you miss is now AT THE TOP instead, just under the Selection strip with all the Race codes for the day .It is for todays racing.
However if you are looking at previous results, it is not there, which is probably my main gripe.

[peter m]

Hi All ,

The old Race to race number feature some of you miss is now AT THE TOP instead, just under the Selection strip with all the Race codes for the day . Yes, that's on the main page.
If you click on a race number you go to that particular race page. To go to the next race you have to go back to the main pagre again whereas previously the race numbers were at the bottom of any race page and you could go to any race without navigating backwards and forwards to the main page which is tme consuming and inconvenient.
I find the new site also is quite a lot slower than the old one as well.

Ah well, that's my whinge for the day ha ha!

[lomaca]

I find the new site also is quite a lot slower than the old one as well.

You are not wrong there, unfortunately this applies to every site that is upgraded with lots of visual features and other useless stuff.

Just think of the old DOS programmes, doing the same as the Windows' ones, without fanfare and fast as lightning.
But for a lot of people it is much easier to use the computer today.

Add to this that our internet speeds are one of the worst in the world!

[Gillies]

I reckon the same as Baggy, thev'e gone 1 step forward and 10 backwards

Visually no where near the clarity and ease of use as the original one and that matters to me alot

[Sportz]

Silly thing is they've been advertising it as the most user-friendly betting website or something like that.

[lomaca]

I reckon the same as Baggy, thev'e gone 1 step forward and 10 backwards

Gillies having been involved in the IT industrie for some time, I have a good idea how it works.
Let's just say, people need work, and admins need to be seen to be "doing" something, so sites that work perfectly well and could easily incorporate new requirements, will be redesigned. It's called "progress"!

When the Supertab site was going to be redesigned a few years back, I talked to one of the blokes involved before it was going ahead, he said there was nothing really dramatic needed doing, but it was "due" for an upgrade.
He was happy of course and I can't blame him either.

I wish some of these teams of designers would be paid just to sit around, and only work when absolutely necessary, same as public "servants" and politicians, if we must have them, then at least let them do no harm!
Fat chance of that though.

Cheers

[petstep]

I too agree it is much slower. Also it isn't easy for research anymore. Luckily I use their Netbet Pro for placing any bets. It's still the same as it used to be.

[Gnarkley]

If anyone needs just the placings and divs, Sportsbet goes back to 2007
Gnarkley

[peter m]

If using this url www.tabonline.com.au/today.htm (http://www.tabonline.com.au/today.htm) now unfortunately they have made it so you can't play around and go back to previous days for past results which makes back testing and researching ideas very difficult using the new site, if not impossible due to the slowness and inconvenience of the new site.

'Twas a black day in history indeed when they revamped the old site

[Twodogs]

Hey Peter

I have no trouble going to previous dates.

Might be worth another try.

Twodogs

[Shaun]

http://www.tabonline.com.au/2007/02/19/mtgraces.html

NP

[Twodogs]

Exactly Shaun!!

[peter m]

Twodogs Hey Peter

I have no trouble going to previous dates.

Might be worth another try.

Twodogs

http://www.tabonline.com.au/2007/02/19/mtgraces.html

NP Yes, that works but when I tried it on my old, dial up computer it wouldn't. I've taken off the black armband for the time being.
Thanks for that guys

[Bhagwan]

As I said to them last time, "Don't start thinking."
Thinking is bad.
It looks like they started thinking again.

It looks like I will have to send my people down there , to sort it all out for them, like I had to do last time & the Fat Cats got all the credit.

Damn those Fat Cats.

[Merriguy]

Is there a way of going directly to today's races without the tedium of typing in the 'today' every day (if you follow me)? I come back to this thread and download from there!!! a pain.

[Twodogs]

Yep just set it as your home page!

Twodogs

[Merriguy]

O.K. Thanks.

[Sportz]

Try this if you don't like the new one!!

www.tabonline.com.au/today.htm

And you can use this one for tomorrow's races.......

www.tabonline.com.au/tomorrow.htm

They've done another "upgrade" and it looks like these two pages are now gone! :(

[The Elk]

Looks like it is still "Work in progress" - the xml feed is still on www.UniTAB (http://www.UniTAB)..... and hasn't been moved over.



<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr></tr><tr> <td class="title-bg-green" align="left">http://tatts.com/images/tattsbet/date-arrow-left.gif WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 5TH http://tatts.com/images/tattsbet/Calendar_scheduleHS.png http://tatts.com/images/tattsbet/date-arrow-right.gif</td></tr></tbody></table>This is the header on the site - you can press the arrows to look at tomorrow/previous days or click on the calender to change to other dates - history files seem not to have been moved over as yet (hopefully it will be)


Doing a quick check, you step one day at a time with the arrows but only go back to 4 Oct at present on the calendar

[Shaun]

They've done another "upgrade" and it looks like these two pages are now gone! :(


They are back again.

[darkydog2002]

This supposed upgrade is a disaster.Are they trying to go out of business.

[Sportz]

They are back again.

Thanks for that.

[4legs]

Betfair on Saturday ... so switched back to Unitab for starting times and took 3 days off ... returned a few hours ago and Unitab site has changed !!! ... Grrrrr #$@#&^%

[The Elk]

Okay, the history results are now available on the new site now. either click on the calendar to select a date or click on "Results" (menu down left hand side) to get previous results as per the "search" method.

XML feed still only working from the old site att - getting there....sssllllllooowwwwllllllllyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

[place2win]

http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

Try the abover and save to favourites

[Sportz]

Thanks a lot. That old fashioned results search on there is FAR superior to the newer version too. So much easier to use.

[4legs]

Just for info ... All went smoothly for me last night when I changed my software to new Unitab site (or i guess we should now say Tatts site!). I use their xml feed but had a couple of web queries which I also updated. As yet I have not downloaded any past results; but I do download the results in real time and that is all working fine.

[Bhagwan]

Hi Place2Win
Thank you so much for that site address.

That link is just what I have been looking for & did not know it still existed.

I was wondering if there is a general link one can go to for future days & not just that particular day.

Also is there a results site number for past results using the same format.

Thanks once again.

Your a genius.

[place2win]

Hi Place2Win
Thank you so much for that site address.

That link is just what I have been looking for & did not know it still existed.

I was wondering if there is a general link one can go to for future days & not just that particular day.

Also is there a results site number for past results using the same format.

Thanks once again.

Your a genius.Hi Bhagwan,
You are very welcome.
I actually saved it from this site many moons ago.
Don,t think you can access more than the NEXT days racing
when on the site click on 'Racing' Link in the boxes under this you will have
'Today' 'Yesterday' and 'Tomorrow'
and in the date box further down click on the Year drop downbox and you
can have Past Results back to 2009.
Hope this helps
ps when changin date the hit Green resuts box

[Bhagwan]

Thanks once again Place2Win.

Its so much easier to navigate & it has the 2 years past results with the "next race" arrow key to make things easier than flicking back a page then forward again- crazy.

The Black background is very easy on the eye & the print font is larger.

Me happy now.

[place2win]

Thanks once again Place2Win.

Its so much easier to navigate & it has the 2 years past results with the "next race" arrow key to make things easier than flicking back a page then forward again- crazy.

The Black background is very easy on the eye & the print font is larger.

Me happy now.
I have also thought the most brilliant racing site to navigate
everything at finger tips, and as you say easy on the eyes.
When it originally disaspeared, I actually cried, nothing else compared
and the new site was absolutely atrocious. The newer site is not any better.
So it was just a matter of search and seek.
Glad I did and glad to be of help.
Put it in cottonwool and preserve.
The beauty of it is that it is current and updated regularily.

[The Elk]

Bhagwan,
so that you are aware - on the new site there is no requirement to go back to the main page from a race to select another race - either at the same meeting or another meeting.

e.g.
if you have selected BR1 (and viewing it) - on the menu to the left of the field, all the races for Ipswich are listed, also any meeting can be selected from that menu then a race - just click on them.

cheers

[The Elk]

Ran out of edit time so new post

Just to add - the old site doesn't have fixed odds nor xml feeds and I think this may be part of the reason for the changes/upgrades since the old black background

[place2win]

Ran out of edit time so new post

Just to add - the old site doesn't have fixed odds nor xml feeds and I think this may be part of the reason for the changes/upgrades since the old black backgroundHi Elk,
at bottom of page of old site

<< (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR06.html) CR (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR.html) 1 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR01.html) 2 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR02.html) 3 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR03.html) 4 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR04.html) 5 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR05.html) 6 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR06.html) 7 8 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR08.html) DD/TT/QD (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRdoubtreb.html) XD (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRextdoub.html) Riders (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRRiders.html) Fixed Price (http://www.tabonline.com.au/sports/865428.html) >> (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR08.html)

If fixed price does not come up when first clicked, click on >> then re-click
fixed price. Not sure about xml feeds as I don't do any data gathering.

[place2win]

Hi Elk,
at bottom of page of old site

<< (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR06.html) CR (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR.html) 1 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR01.html) 2 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR02.html) 3 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR03.html) 4 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR04.html) 5 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR05.html) 6 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR06.html) 7 8 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR08.html) DD/TT/QD (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRdoubtreb.html) XD (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRextdoub.html) Riders (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRRiders.html) Fixed Price (http://www.tabonline.com.au/sports/865428.html) >> (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR08.html)

If fixed price does not come up when first clicked, click on >> then re-click
fixed price. Not sure about xml feeds as I don't do any data gathering.Not sure what happened there, but was working previously,
can get it to work Sale R5, but no others????
Damn now working Nowra race 4?
Must be on a time element so much before race time
Pt Mc R5 also working

[place2win]

Well, ******, now site has been shut down!!!!
Damn, Damn, Damn

[place2win]

Well, ******, now site has been shut down!!!!
Damn, Damn, Damn

Unbelievable!!!! Back up and running Hooray!!

[The Elk]

<< (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR06.html) CR (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR.html) 1 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR01.html) 2 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR02.html) 3 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR03.html) 4 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR04.html) 5 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR05.html) 6 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR06.html) 7 8 (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR08.html) DD/TT/QD (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRdoubtreb.html) XD (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRextdoub.html) Riders (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CRRiders.html) Fixed Price (http://www.tabonline.com.au/sports/865428.html) >> (http://www.tabonline.com.au/2011/10/07/CR08.html) Thanks for that place2win, Yes - I certainly missed it when i checked the site...can i amend my statement on upgrades to add that they probably wanted to put fixed and tote prices on the one page :rolleyes

I have been sticking up for "TABOnline/UniTAB/Tatts" but my patience is starting to wear thin - this started as a normal upgrade on Monday and is still going - the "Next 5 Races" feature is possibly classifed in the "Nice to Have" but it just doesn't update to the current races (yet!!!!)

I only use the xml feed for comparing race times with BF and fortunately I put "UniTAB/Tatts" on a (switchable)button - so far at least one has been up at any one time and hasn't caused any major dramas for me (yet!!!)

Happy punting

[partypooper]

http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

Try the abover and save to favourites

Place2win, can't thank you enough for that, I've been cursing blue in the face at the frustration since they changed the site LAST time.

This old (FAR BETTER SITE) will save me hours literally,


thanks again!

[place2win]

Place2win, can't thank you enough for that, I've been cursing blue in the face at the frustration since they changed the site LAST time.

This old (FAR BETTER SITE) will save me hours literally,


thanks again!
Hi Party,
You are welcome, just hope it keeps running, even if only
for historical data.

[darkydog2002]

Down for maintenance on the biggest punting day of the week .Outrageous.

[Sportz]

It's a total farce. Down again and gone for the rest of the day.

The old site from about 2-3 years ago was far easier to use! And none of these problems.

[Stix]

Anybody know an alternative site for Radio Tab Selections?

[Sportz]

http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

[Stix]

many thanks...

[Bhagwan]

I believe the Radio TAB selections can also be had by going to the Sky racing site .
Where they have the Radio race callers selections.

That's why its called RadioTAB selections, for those who don't already know,.

[Sportz]

The old links now appear to be gone for good as of this afternoon. Is that right? Does anyone know if the old site format is still available anywhere and how to get to it?

[place2win]

Hi Sportz,

Still here: http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

Good Luck

or http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

[jose]

Thought the same Sports but that new link from Placetowin has worked a treat.
A thousand thankyous Place.

[Sportz]

Hi Sportz,

Still here: http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

Good Luck

or http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

Thanks, but as of this afternoon, that just sends you to the new Tattsbet site. Well, it does when I click on it anyway.

Isn't that happening to anyone else?

[jose]

I am on the old site now.

http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

That is in the addy bar.

[Sands]

I am on the old site now.

http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

That is in the addy bar.
Ditto

[place2win]

Sorry, alternate link should read:
http://www.tabonline.com.au/cgi-bin/flashback.pl?page=/today.htm

alt won,t list but above will work as before.

[Sportz]

Don't know what I'm doing wrong. I click on those links or I copy and paste them into the address bar, it doesn't matter what I do, it just goes automatically and instantly to...

https://tatts.com/tattsbet

I suppose it could be a cookies issue, so I tried to do something about that. Still no good. Might have to restart the computer or something.

[Sportz]

I was right. For some reason, I had to restart the computer to be able to use that link. Don't know what happened this afternoon.

Anyway, thanks.