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partypooper
3rd March 2010, 11:40 AM
Does anyone know if and where a bet can be placed on the FAV, i.e. the eventual fav? also where I can view results where the fav is clearly identified.

I posted this on the other forum, but little response, what I'm after is to be able to have a bet on the unamed SP favourite.

thorns
3rd March 2010, 11:55 AM
I know its not really what you are after in regards to SP. But there are bots on available for betfair where you can tell it to back the fav.

Otherwise I dont know any bookie where that is the case, unless you were to perhaps strike up a relationship with a on course bookie??

partypooper
3rd March 2010, 01:21 PM
[QUOTE=thorns]I know its not really what you are after in regards to SP. But there are bots on available for betfair where you can tell it to back the fav.

Thorns, actually that would probably suffice for what I have in mind. In fact does anyone have a comparison BF favs-v- SP favs?

thorns
3rd March 2010, 01:32 PM
It wont actually answer your question directly, but if you have a loook over at another ACE forum, there was a thread recently which compared all the different options available, firstly in a general overview, and then a breakdown of odds. From his results, SP was consistently the worst option, although best of SP or best tote was generally at the better end, and he thought Betfair was the best across all odds range, despite not having actual figures presented

The thread is called Best of tote actual results and can be found in the horse racing section.

Could help with your question.

partypooper
3rd March 2010, 02:21 PM
Brilliant Thorns, really good stuff! and amazing, just one thing I don't quite get is that the suggestion is that if you back all horses at less than evens best tote/sp actually makes a profit? can that be right? if so then backing them on betfair using a bot would guarantee it; wouldn't it? (scratching head)

thorns
3rd March 2010, 03:09 PM
I guess the hard thing would be is knowing when a horse is actually going to start under $2. You'd need something checking TAB odds right to the jump and then backing on betfair. Probably can be done, would be an interesting system to try out.

I do know from my laying adventures that the short priced horses are hard work to eek out a profit from laying. From my thousands of lay results, I have found that those horses starting short in the market, generally $2.50 and under are in profit at lay prices, so perhaps a slight profit/break even at back prices (as lay prices are generally a little higher than available back price). From this I wouldnt be surprised in teh least if backing all the short priced favs would return a POT, albeit most likely tiny.