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Based on the really good work Michaelg has been putting up, I looked at the 4 major meetings on Saturday (Flem, Rand, EFarm and Morph) and only consider the Neural Top Rated horse using Michaelg's criteria.

I used the following rules to tighten up the bets

Race must have at least 8 starters
Contender must have started 14 or 21 days ago
Contender must have finished in first 5 last start
The results were:-

Flem 5 bets for one winner (No Evidence Needed $20.00)
Rand 3 bets for two winners (More Strawberries $4.20 and Theseo $3.30)
EFarm 5 bets for 2 winners (Cats Eyes $6.70 and General Purple $5.50)

These results are using the better of SP or Best Tote. If Luxbet's BOB was used the dividends would increase overall by a further $2.40

Obviously the results from one meeting does not give any real long term indication but I did find it interesting, especially since Michaelg's everyday approach is giving such good profits.

I'll be interested to see how it performs next weekend!

[michaelg]

Hi, Try.

Those are very impressive figures. Did you also look at those with 1 to 13 days since last start, and also Place results?

Do you intend testing it tomorrow at the 4 major states?

I'm going to record the 4 major states for Wed and Sat, but only those selections that have 140-plus points, and also must have the outright highest JA points.

I believe you omit Perth and Launceston from your daily method. I've checked W. Aust results for my method, and it's ugly - 1 winner from 12 selections for a loss of $9.50, and 7 placegetters for a loss of $1.60. I'm still going to continue with W.A, it might pick up. There have only been 3 Tassie selections so far, so I can't really say anything about it yet.

Good luck.

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Hi Michaelg,

Yes I looked at horses starting <14 days ago, there were 4 starters for 1 winner ($2.00 - a jumps race at Morphettville which had started 6 days ago). My theory is exactly 14 and 21 days ago suggests the horse started at a Metropolitan track. 7 days ago may not give the horse enough time to recover from its last run and >=28 days ago horse may have had a set back and may not be fit.

Using the criteria I set out the place bank would be +$4.30 (Win bank +$26.70).

I am going to look at any Metro races tomorrow (Canterbury, Eagle Farm and Sandown Lakeside) but I am not sure if my "Must have started 14 or 21 days ago" will apply.

I eliminated Belmont (and Ascot) and Hobart. I did not eliminate Launceston as I did not consider this to be the Metro meeting but I may consider it in the future. - 2 starters for one winner ($3.20) and 2 places ($1.20 & $1.70)

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Hi Michaelg,

From yesterday's results, with one modification to the DSLS rule - must be 11, 14, 18 or 21 days ago - there were 8 selections for 3 winners which returned $11, so a profit of $3, and 6 places returning $9.80, a profit of $1.80

Logic behind 11 or 18 days ago means the horse's previous start was on a Saturday and is now lining up on Wednesday. The 14 and 21 days ago means it has started on a previous Wednesday meeting.

Of course these are only for the City meetings in Melb, Syd and Bris. SA meeting was not a city meeting (Murray Bridge)

So from all this I guess it looks promising but probably the jury is still out!

[michaelg]

Yes, its still too early to tell but it does look promising.

So far it seems there could well be merit in your logic about the length of time from last start, applying to both your Sat and Wed methods. I'll be following with interest.

Good luck.

[Stix]

Hi, Try.

Those are very impressive figures. Did you also look at those with 1 to 13 days since last start, and also Place results?

Do you intend testing it tomorrow at the 4 major states?

I'm going to record the 4 major states for Wed and Sat, but only those selections that have 140-plus points, and also must have the outright highest JA points.

I believe you omit Perth and Launceston from your daily method. I've checked W. Aust results for my method, and it's ugly - 1 winner from 12 selections for a loss of $9.50, and 7 placegetters for a loss of $1.60. I'm still going to continue with W.A, it might pick up. There have only been 3 Tassie selections so far, so I can't really say anything about it yet.

Good luck.I've dropped WA , TAS and QLD selections - so only betting VIC, SA and NSW(ACT)...

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Here are the qualifiers for today

<table width="284" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 48pt;" width="64"> <col style="width: 36pt;" width="48"> <col style="width: 28pt;" width="37"> <col style="width: 101pt;" width="135"> <tbody><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt; width: 48pt;" width="64" height="20">MV</td> <td class="xl64" style="width: 36pt;" width="48">12.00</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 28pt;" width="37">1#2</td> <td style="width: 101pt;" width="135">Servant</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MV</td> <td class="xl64">12.35</td> <td class="xl63">2#3</td> <td>Crabs</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MV</td> <td class="xl64">1.10</td> <td class="xl63">3#2</td> <td>Miss Gai Flyer</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MV</td> <td class="xl64">1.45</td> <td class="xl63">4#3</td> <td>Big Spirit</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rose</td> <td class="xl64">2.40</td> <td class="xl63">4#2</td> <td>Decision Time</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MV</td> <td class="xl64">3.00</td> <td class="xl63">6#1</td> <td>Reward For Effort</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Doom</td> <td class="xl64">3.10</td> <td class="xl63">5#8</td> <td>Mambo Flyer</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Morph</td> <td class="xl64">3.30</td> <td class="xl63">5#1</td> <td>Sayahailmary</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MV</td> <td class="xl64">3.40</td> <td class="xl63">7#2</td> <td>Whobegotyou</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Doom</td> <td class="xl64">3.50</td> <td class="xl63">6#1</td> <td>Loves A Challenge</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rose</td> <td class="xl64">4.00</td> <td class="xl63">6#4</td> <td>More Joyous</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Doom</td> <td class="xl64">4.30</td> <td class="xl63">7#1</td> <td>Kryptelon</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Morph</td> <td class="xl64">4.50</td> <td class="xl63">7#7</td> <td>Produced</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Morph</td> <td class="xl64">5.30</td> <td class="xl63">8#12</td> <td>Testapal</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Fingers are crossed!

[michaelg]

Hi, Try

I'll have an each-way bet on them, except for More Joyous, Crabs and Sayahailmary because I expect to lay them as they are last start winners and are under $3 in the Tele pre-post market.

Stix, you say you've dropped WA, TAS and QLD. Why QLD? I presume they're not performing?

Good luck.

[Stix]

Hi, Try

I'll have an each-way bet on them, except for More Joyous, Crabs and Sayahailmary because I expect to lay them as they are last start winners and are under $3 in the Tele pre-post market.

Stix, you say you've dropped WA, TAS and QLD. Why QLD? I presume they're not performing?

Good luck.Correct mate...

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Not a bad result today with 5 winners from the 14 bets giving a return of $17.60.

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Hi All,

I've been away so I haven't put up the qualifiers for a few weeks but here they are for today.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="284"><col style="width: 48pt;" width="64"> <col style="width: 36pt;" width="48"> <col style="width: 28pt;" width="37"> <col style="width: 101pt;" width="135"> <tbody><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt; width: 48pt;" width="64" height="20">EFarm</td> <td class="xl64" style="width: 36pt;" width="48">1.20</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 28pt;" width="37">2#3</td> <td style="width: 101pt;" width="135">Falco Star</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rand</td> <td class="xl64">2.10</td> <td class="xl63">5#1</td> <td>More Strawberries</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Morph</td> <td class="xl64">2.30</td> <td class="xl63">4#1</td> <td>Sandhill Prince</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rand</td> <td class="xl64">2.50</td> <td class="xl63">6#1</td> <td>Retrieve</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">EFarm</td> <td class="xl64">4.00</td> <td class="xl63">6#2</td> <td>Go Forest Go</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Morph</td> <td class="xl64">4.30</td> <td class="xl63">7#8</td> <td>You Dee Cee</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rand</td> <td class="xl64">4.50</td> <td class="xl63">9#5</td> <td>Hot Danish</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Morph</td> <td class="xl64">5.10</td> <td class="xl63">8#7</td> <td>Some Call Me Tim</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">EFarm</td> <td class="xl64">5.18</td> <td class="xl63">8#4</td> <td>Unsupervised</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

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A losing day with only one winner (Hot Danish $1.90) but there were 7 placegetters from the 9 selections totaling $11.70

[michaelg]

Try, good to see you back with your system. Good luck with it.

I've been betting a neural system for about a week, and Place betting is outperforming Win.

I know Place doesn't appeal to you but if it proves profitable with your system you might eventually consider it.