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Bhagwan
9th December 2002, 08:23 AM
TAB Nos.1-4 System
This simple plan is based on the broad based recurring factor ,that 50% of races are won from TAB Nos.1-4
1)Focus on TAB NOS.1-4 only (don`t replace a No. if there is a scratching.)
2)Field size after scratchings 7-14 only
3)Barriers 1-3 only
4)Pre-Post (newspaper) market price $4.50-12.00
5) If one or more selections , back them all.
This has produced a 55% POT
SR 20%
Longest loosing sequence 27 ,so we multiply this figure by 3 to work out what size bank we need .
Bank should be $1.00 for every $80 ,using level stakes betting.
Mark
9th December 2002, 10:48 AM
Bhagwan,
You obviously do a lot of research on your systems. Do you use all of them, some of them, or a hybrid version of them?
Mark
Bhagwan
9th December 2002, 01:06 PM
YES
partypooper
9th December 2002, 01:20 PM
Bhagwan, This one does seem to have merit, though rule 4 means a lot of things i.e. "WHICH" newspaper pre-post prices?
I read your posts with interest as you obviously do heaps of research, a passtime of mine for many years (longhand)
I have an idea at the moment based on an old system, that does seem interesting, and wonder if you can help me out with the number crunching? if so can I have your e-mail address?
partypooper
9th December 2002, 01:20 PM
Bhagwan, This one does seem to have merit, though rule 4 means a lot of things i.e. "WHICH" newspaper pre-post prices?
I read your posts with interest as you obviously do heaps of research, a passtime of mine for many years (longhand)
I have an idea at the moment based on an old system, that does seem interesting, and wonder if you can help me out with the number crunching? if so can I have your e-mail address?
partypooper
9th December 2002, 01:20 PM
Bhagwan, This one does seem to have merit, though rule 4 means a lot of things i.e. "WHICH" newspaper pre-post prices?
I read your posts with interest as you obviously do heaps of research, a passtime of mine for many years (longhand)
I have an idea at the moment based on an old system, that does seem interesting, and wonder if you can help me out with the number crunching? if so can I have your e-mail address?
partypooper
9th December 2002, 01:20 PM
Bhagwan, This one does seem to have merit, though rule 4 means a lot of things i.e. "WHICH" newspaper pre-post prices?
I read your posts with interest as you obviously do heaps of research, a passtime of mine for many years (longhand)
I have an idea at the moment based on an old system, that does seem interesting, and wonder if you can help me out with the number crunching? if so can I have your e-mail address?
partypooper
9th December 2002, 01:22 PM
sorry about that!
Bhagwan
9th December 2002, 04:32 PM
You can use any newspaper , you will find they are all much the muchness.
Now to your next question , you want me to do your number crunching .
I will, but only if it gets placed on this site.
partypooper
9th December 2002, 08:18 PM
Bhagwan, The idea I'm interested is basically to cash in when a horse wins 5 in a row. The crude idea is as follows:
back all duel winners 1 point win for each of thier next 3 runs regardless, and also a 1 point treble (i.e. all off, onto next run etc)
The aim is that the singles keep the kettle boiling and when a horse wins 5 in a row your on the treble. Surprisingly the odds are often much better than you'd think (Blevvo is a recent example) But I haven't got the data to put the idea to the test, so could easily be a dud, but with refining maybe???? if you can help it would be appreciated.
Bolter
13th December 2002, 10:30 AM
Hi Bhagwan
I enjoy reading your postings especially your research to find that elusive system that shows a profit longterm.
This system is interesting but wonder whether your limiting factor of Barriers 1-3 may work against you at some tracks.
For instance at Moonee Valley barrier 1 over certain distances can be considered a disadvantage. Similarly at Flemington, races over 1000 metres and 1200 metres it seems advantageous over recent times to come down the outside rail and therefore the wider barriers at this track may be preferable.
Just my thoughts, what do you think?
Equine Investor
13th December 2002, 10:41 AM
On 2002-12-09 20:18, partypooper wrote:
Bhagwan, The idea I'm interested is basically to cash in when a horse wins 5 in a row. The crude idea is as follows:
back all duel winners 1 point win for each of thier next 3 runs regardless, and also a 1 point treble (i.e. all off, onto next run etc)
The aim is that the singles keep the kettle boiling and when a horse wins 5 in a row your on the treble. Surprisingly the odds are often much better than you'd think (Blevvo is a recent example) But I haven't got the data to put the idea to the test, so could easily be a dud, but with refining maybe???? if you can help it would be appreciated.
partypooper,
You are quite right about the odds of consecutive winners.
You will find the first two wins, on average at reasonable odds, the next two at reasonably shorter odds, and then they tend to lay it a fair bit, unless of course it's breaking track records or winning Group races well.
It all comes down to the class of the opposition really, many horses that win consecutively have a fair bit of class to them and step up through the grades quite quickly.
This is where some juicy odds are available if you know the horse has a good strike rate and has a touch of class about it.
Case in point, as you say Blevvo.
Then there are those such as Hardrada, who can go close but fail to get the "chocolates" despite the hype and odds!
Good point worth investigation.
partypooper
13th December 2002, 02:31 PM
EI, in Blevvos' case win 3 was 11/4, win 4 was@ 20/1 win 5 was @ 8/1, the total return was 742.5 points for the 4 point outlay, (not quite so good on the tote) which gives us 184 further tries just from this one horse.
My other observation is that many times a horse wins 2 in a row, then fails, but subsequently pops up on the next run (or the next) at good odds. It would be interesting to see what the stats reveal.
partypooper
15th December 2002, 04:53 PM
just to prove my point check out
Sat.PR 4-12Higgins Gold, , AR5-12 Fox Helios
Equine Investor
15th December 2002, 05:42 PM
partypooper,
It may be worth investigating WHY the horse didn't win that start before.
Did the horse fail to win because he just wasn't good enough on the day, or more importantly was he interfered with - never got a chance, ridden badly etc.
This might even further prove profitable if you can single out the one's that "just had bad luck" rather than the failures.
Example - I remember listening to Fox Helios' last race where never got a crack at them til it was all over and ran into 2nd placing I think it was. Paid reasonable odds for the place too.
$3.00 place supertab
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Bhagwan
24th December 2002, 09:22 AM
Dear Bolter,
The results for Mooney Valley using this plan were just as profitable, especially in Maiden events where the horse is having it`s first career start.
Your logic sounds sound but the stats reveal the same average POT as the other tracks , strange as this may sound.
Check it out .
These figures are based on hundreds of races.
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