Age & Sex

[whispers1944]

Please
where would I find stats on Age & Sex in open races ??

Thanks for any replies.

ken

[Barny]

Saw the heading and was going to contribute .............. my stats would have brought the averages down !

[lomaca]

Saw the heading and was going to contribute .............. my stats would have brought the averages down !Yes Barny just my luck too!
My eyes lit up when I saw the title, another hope dashed.


Cheers

[whispers1944]

Is there some secret that I don't know about ?? I thought this forum was about sharing ideas and perhaps improving our knowledge so that we could all get better at the punt ? I searched the forum about this subject and found nought, which I thought very strange as from my very limited experience it appears to be a very important part of the puzzle.

ken

[lomaca]

Is there some secret that I don't know about ?? I thought this forum was about sharing ideas and perhaps improving our knowledge so that we could all get better at the punt ? I searched the forum about this subject and found nought, which I thought very strange as from my very limited experience it appears to be a very important part of the puzzle.

kenSorry about the levity Ken, what specific stats are you after?

Cheers

[Dale]

I feel career starts should be added to these two things,i cant look at age without also looking at career starts,imo its more i mportant than age.

[wesmip1]

This iks not based on any class. Just every race in Aus.

Age:

2 6758 666 5050.4
3 36300 3861 27681.2
4 42073 4678 35120.8
5 30335 2727 23792.2
6 17432 1325 13253.8
7 9094 564 6765.4
8 4037 207 2357.6
9 1276 80 913.1
10 410 14 176.1


Sex:
C 4516 542 3451.3
F 20311 2035 14856.8
G 85185 8192 67998.9
H 2728 249 2085.6
M 35011 3101 26760.8


It is selections, winners, unitab return.

[whispers1944]

In my small data base that i have kept myself, I have found that in open class 4g-5g-6g have won 285 times out of 447 races, 4g=109, 5g=120, 6g=56 [285] , where as 3yo won 17 so I dismiss any 3yo in my selections.

[Dale]

In my small data base that i have kept myself, I have found that in open class 4g-5g-6g have won 285 times out of 447 races, 4g=109, 5g=120, 6g=56 [285] , where as 3yo won 17 so I dismiss any 3yo in my selections.


But how many 3yo's were entered in those races,until you know that you cant rule them out,whose to say they dont have a better strike rate than the 6yo's?

[whispers1944]

Thank you all for your replies, the only way I can improve is by asking questions.Is there a newbie guide ??

[wesmip1]

whispers,

There is no newbie guide and there are very few people who profit from punting.
Keeo asking questions. Its the only way to succeed.

[TheSchmile]

Hi Whispers1944,

I don't take that much notice of age, sex etc up to a point. I always check mares when racing against the colts and geldings, especially if they've put in a bad run and are back to mares grade. Looking for value in that case.

I rarely back early 2yo races and 3yo staying events, as most of the horses are untried at the distance and in the case of early 2yo's, can be inconsistent. However, when I see see the likes of Sepoy and Karuta Queen running around, I make an exception. Class and speed to burn. Two beautiful things.

A general look at the stats will tell you that 6yo+ horses are more inconsistent, however then you have your horses such as Tears I cry and Zipping, who have both been in great form in the last season at 8 and 9 years old respectively.

In all cases I'd say it's a matter of sorting out the wheat from the chaff. I wouldn't think it'd be as easy as saying 4yo's will beat the 3yo's everytime in open class.

Personally, I'd recommend starting with a stable of horses and following their runs. Observe which tracks they perform best at, distances etc. Find their perfect scenarios and get on when it's all in place. Some will need dry tracks, others a bit of give. Some will run average at one track and gain 6 lengths at another.

Why not start with the best!
You can find a list of the best timeform rated 2,3,4 and 5yo rated horses at:
http://www.racingandsports.com.au/timeform/rsnewsart.asp?newsType=65

Look on the right-hand side under 'Current Season'. There are also stats for last year.

Get a blackbook going to email you your selections when they run from racenet, aap etc.

Hope this helps a bit whispers1944. If you have any further questions about anything in general regarding racing, fire away!

Cheers,

The Schmile