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Mr. Barry
4th April 2011, 07:49 AM
A mate of mine told me I should be following you. I have and you have turned my betting around. Since early Feb I've made $3,800 betting $100 on just Lucky Lil's tips. Thank you so much Lucky Lil. Thanks so much for your forum and thanks for your fantastic tips. Also thanks propun for that Rosehill betting system. On Saturday I followed it and got $19.00 on Rangirandoo and $4.50 on Swift Alliance. With your system in mind I also backed Cedarberg. It was $26.00 and had Oliver. I thought why not. After all how often do you get Oliver on a horse at those odds.

oldtimers
4th April 2011, 08:08 AM
well done mr barry..can we get more info. on the rosehill betting system? i have been following lucky lil, but cannot find the system..cheers bill

Neil
5th April 2011, 06:47 AM
Mr. Barry is probably referring to a betting system we published some years ago that still finds amazing winners. A few weeks ago it found three winners at one Rosehill meeting at odds of $101.00, $46.00 and $10.00.

We'll publish it again in this week's updated Punt to Win which you'll be able to access from the Free Newsletter or our home page at http://www.propun.com.au/ - scroll down to the Punt to Win heading where you'll see a link to it.

Should be available by Thursday evening/Friday morning.

kumite
6th April 2011, 05:24 PM
A few weeks ago it found three winners at one Rosehill meeting at odds of $101.00, $46.00 and $10.00.

wow!
looking forward to this week's updated punt to win

The Ocho
9th April 2011, 09:12 AM
Mr. Barry is probably referring to a betting system we published some years ago that still finds amazing winners. A few weeks ago it found three winners at one Rosehill meeting at odds of $101.00, $46.00 and $10.00.

We'll publish it again in this week's updated Punt to Win which you'll be able to access from the Free Newsletter or our home page at http://www.propun.com.au/ - scroll down to the Punt to Win heading where you'll see a link to it.

Should be available by Thursday evening/Friday morning.

Thanks propunter :)

kumite
10th April 2011, 12:33 PM
found punt to win
not sure which item to look at
the 1st? "What Horse Races Are Poor Betting Races"

The Ocho
10th April 2011, 01:28 PM
kumite,

I only found this the other day. I admit it was hard to find.

Lucky Lil had 3 tips yesterday with one winner and a profit of $1.30 for $1 bets

You can find that here

http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38

That leads to this screen but you have to be signed in

http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48

and then look under this section

The Free Top Four Ratings and Lucky Lil's tips for Australian Derby Day, Saturday, 9th. April are available from the following link.

http://www.propun.com.au/hfly4564.html

Shaun
10th April 2011, 01:34 PM
I think this is the system they are referring to.
http://www.propun.com.au/betting_advice_2.html

moeee
10th April 2011, 02:04 PM
I can't see that backing Barrier 1 at ROSEHILL would be profitable, yet backing barrier 2 would not.

I figure it wouldn't be too difficult for someone with the helpulness personality like Wesnip could donate his services , yet again, to prove or disprove this so called System.

Dennis G
10th April 2011, 02:49 PM
I can't see that backing Barrier 1 at ROSEHILL would be profitable, yet backing barrier 2 would not.

I figure it wouldn't be too difficult for someone with the helpulness personality like Wesnip could donate his services , yet again, to prove or disprove this so called System.For anyone who's interested, the barrier stats for all Rosehill races from 1st August 1996 to 1998 (I haven't kept the stats going) are -


<TABLE style="WIDTH: 816pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=1088><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" span=17 width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20 width=64>BP</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>4</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>6</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>9</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>10</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>11</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>12</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>13</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>14</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>15</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>16</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20>Starters</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2743</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2743</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2742</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2741</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2734</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2701</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2594</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2390</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2097</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>1723</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>1328</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>958</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>604</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>332</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>111</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>56</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20>Wins</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>345</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>287</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>271</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>301</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>290</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>266</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>235</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>199</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>162</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>136</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>108</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>64</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>46</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>20</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>4</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20>Percent</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>12.58%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>10.46%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>9.88%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>10.98%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>10.61%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>9.85%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>9.06%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>8.33%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.73%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.89%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>8.13%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>6.68%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.62%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>6.02%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>6.31%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.14%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

lomaca
10th April 2011, 03:42 PM
I can't see that backing Barrier 1 at ROSEHILL would be profitable, yet backing barrier 2 would not.
I think you might change your mind moeee, if you look at this:
http://www.racenet.com.au/barriers.asp?Track=RHIL

BP1 wins more often than BP2

Cheers

mattio
10th April 2011, 03:46 PM
Those stats also indicate you could back barrier 6 and be just as successful. Seems to me this system is based purely on chance.

moeee
10th April 2011, 03:48 PM
I think you might change your mind moeee, if you look at this:
http://www.racenet.com.au/barriers.asp?Track=RHIL

BP1 wins more often than BP2



IRRELEVANT!

Box 1 on the Greyhounds wins more than any other Box at nearly every venue, at nearly every distance.
You will slowly bleed to death if you back it level stakes every Race.

One thing noticeable about your Graphs - The Massive strike rate for barrier 13 over many distances - Lucky for some.

lomaca
10th April 2011, 04:09 PM
IRRELEVANT!

Box 1 on the Greyhounds wins more than any other Box at nearly every venue, at nearly every distance.
You will slowly bleed to death if you back it level stakes every Race.

One thing noticeable about your Graphs - The Massive strike rate for barrier 13 over many distances - Lucky for some.I didn't make up those stats moeee! they are not mine!!
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Agree on box one.

Keep in mind the number of times barrier 13 is used as opposed to barrier 1.

I personally rate barriers 3 to 5 as far better than Bp1 or Bp2 as a general rule, but you have to make a distinction by racetrack and race distance as well.

Again, in general I don't take much notice of barriers over 1600 M.

I'm very new to Greyhounds moeee, only recently started to take interest and I find it much easier to rate than horses.
Followed some of your posts and if and when I can rate them as well as you do, I'll be happy.

Cheers

Raven
10th April 2011, 04:38 PM
Results 1 Jan 2000 to 30 Sep 2009

Starters 2147
Wins 273
Return Unitab $2183.60

I think the results since havent backed up

beton
10th April 2011, 05:18 PM
Straight out barrier win chart is not comparing apples with apples. You need to make a chart for track, distance and field size. Just think how many races have less than 13 runners, Barrier 13 may produce a profit at certain distances in fields of 13 Plus. The barrier 11 at ascot just by having a quick looks like a possible winner also.

Dennis G
10th April 2011, 09:37 PM
For anyone who's interested, the barrier stats for all Rosehill races from 1st August 1996 to 1998 (I haven't kept the stats going) are -



<TABLE style="WIDTH: 816pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=1088><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" span=17 width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20 width=64>BP</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>4</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>6</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>9</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>10</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>11</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>12</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>13</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>14</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>15</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" width=64 align=right>16</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20>Starters</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2743</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2743</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2742</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2741</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2734</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2701</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2594</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2390</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>2097</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>1723</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>1328</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>958</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>604</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>332</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>111</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>56</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20>Wins</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>345</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>287</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>271</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>301</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>290</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>266</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>235</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>199</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>162</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>136</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>108</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>64</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>46</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>20</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" align=right>4</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" height=20>Percent</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>12.58%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>10.46%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>9.88%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>10.98%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>10.61%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>9.85%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>9.06%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>8.33%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.73%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.89%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>8.13%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>6.68%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.62%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>6.02%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>6.31%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black; BORDER-LEFT: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: black; BORDER-RIGHT: black" class=xl65 align=right>7.14%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Sorry, just reread that, dates should have been '1st August 1996 to 2008'

darkydog2002
11th April 2011, 01:54 PM
It might work if the horse was over $20 and had the letter "R" in its name.

The Ocho
11th April 2011, 02:43 PM
It might work if the horse was over $20 and had the letter "R" in its name.
Why don't they keep stats like that...lol :)

darkydog2002
11th April 2011, 03:41 PM
Yeah.Ho Ho.
Mind you the odd 100/1 winner covers a lot of duds though.

kumite
13th April 2011, 06:51 PM
kumite,

I only found this the other day. I admit it was hard to find.

Lucky Lil had 3 tips yesterday with one winner and a profit of $1.30 for $1 bets

You can find that here

http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38

That leads to this screen but you have to be signed in

http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48

and then look under this section

The Free Top Four Ratings and Lucky Lil's tips for Australian Derby Day, Saturday, 9th. April are available from the following link.

http://www.propun.com.au/hfly4564.html
yeah found it
thanks the ocho (& shaun)