Value Greyhounds

[moeee]

BENDIGO Race 6

6 FLINT BALE $3
7 VEDDER BALE $3.3
2 CHARLIE CHA CHA $7.8
4 ROCKING OUT $7.8
3 KID APACHE $20
1 KALIMNA CHANCE $40
5 JIMMY ELITE $50
8 DIAL TRIPLE ZERO $50

I'm banking on #2 CHARLIE CHA CHA to figure and the top 4 to fill the podium in my $9 worth of FlexiTris.

6,7 - 6,7 - 2 $2.50
6,7 - 2 - 6,7 $1.50
2 - 6,7 - 6,7 $1.50
6,7 - 2,4 - 2,4 $1.50
2,4 - 6,7 - 2,4 $1
2,4 - 2,4 - 6,7 $1

[moeee]

8 HOLY MOLEY $2.5
7 JALYN JONES $4.2
6 HOT CHANCE $10
2 GRANDO'S CHOICE $10
1 KID OTMAR $16
3 COOL LENNY $20
5 DOUBLE JUMP $33
9 OUR MAN BOND $50

The VALUE here could be that the usual bumps,thumps and dumps usually prevent one of the outstanding Quinella animals to fail.
So I'll take $6 worth of EXACTAS like this.

8 - 6,2 for $2
7 - 6,2 for $1

[moeee]

6 DYNA MAX $5
1 CREATIVE ELUSION $6
8 CREWSAN JAY JAY $6
3 SEASPRAY SURFER $7
2 NAVEED BALE $7.6
4 MOUSE'S IMAGE $11.5
7 BUREAUCRAT $12
5 BINDI WAVES $33
I'll try some 50 cent Roving EXACTAs in this VERY VERY Open Race.
3 - 2,6,1,8
2 - 6,1,8

Costs $7 Total

[moeee]

3 ZERO'S HERO $3.5
4 WONGAWILLI WALA $4.3
6 DYNA MORRIS $6
1 ALLEN LENNOX $6.5
8 ROXY'S FLAME $10
7 LIMBURG GOLD $25
2 CULLEN BALE $30

Perhaps is Best to go $7 straight out on the top selection to lead all the way.

[moeee]

8 CROSSFARNOGUE $4
2 DARYA BALE $4.5
3 DAWBILOWS HEAVEN $6.8
5 LEPRECHAUN CHLOE $7.5
4 MINT POWER $9
6 PURE PEACHES $14
1 COOPER BALE $15

$6 straight out on #8 Crossfarnogue.

[woof43]

6 DYNA MAX $5
1 CREATIVE ELUSION $6
8 CREWSAN JAY JAY $6
3 SEASPRAY SURFER $7
2 NAVEED BALE $7.6
4 MOUSE'S IMAGE $11.5
7 BUREAUCRAT $12
5 BINDI WAVES $33
I'll try some 50 cent Roving EXACTAs in this VERY VERY Open Race.
3 - 2,6,1,8
2 - 6,1,8

Costs $7 Total
First split times adjusted to the meadows
1 5.110
2 5.261
3 5.122
4 5.144
5 5.173
6 5.175
7 5.139
8 5.109
#1 has run some ordinary 2nd sectionals around two turn tracks, it will need to be well clear to after the first turn, it will need to rail as well.
Could open a big spot up for the Bates dog on the rails.
split make it look like the #1 and #8 lead 3,4,7 run tight to the first turn.

Box Combined Rank
1 $8.94 6
2 $5.17 1
3 $7.06 4
4 $6.47 3
5 $333.33 8
6 $8.77 5
7 $5.85 2
8 $9.05 7

[moeee]

1 RED HOT ANDY $3.3
7 DYNA JOE $5.1
8 OUR TOYMAN $6.2
5 SHIRAZ COLOUR $7.8
6 BLING IT ON $8.7
4 JERSEY BALE $16
3 JUNIOR SHIRAZ $25

I'm figuring the Red could get problems in this.
Box Quinella
5,6,7,8 for $1

[moeee]

Box Combined Rank
1 $8.94 6
2 $5.17 1
3 $7.06 4
4 $6.47 3
5 $333.33 8
6 $8.77 5
7 $5.85 2
8 $9.05 7

So how would you wager in a Race where every animal bar one has pretty much an equal Chance of winning?

[woof43]

at this very stage in betting, these are the trifecta wagers as per the expected tri pool.

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MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/5/6/
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MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/5/8/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/6/3/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/6/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/7/3/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/7/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/8/3/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/2/8/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/1/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/1/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/2/1/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/2/4/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/2/6/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/2/7/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/2/8/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/4/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/4/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/4/6/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/4/7/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/4/8/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/6/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/6/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/6/7/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/7/1/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/7/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/7/4/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/7/6/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/7/8/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/8/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/8/4/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/8/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/8/6/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/3/8/7/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/4/2/3/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/4/3/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/4/5/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/2/1/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/2/4/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/2/6/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/2/7/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/2/8/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/4/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/6/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/7/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/5/8/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/6/3/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/7/2/3/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/7/2/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/7/3/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/7/3/4/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/7/3/8/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/7/5/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/8/2/3/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/8/3/2/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/8/3/5/
MG-03-TT-00000.5/8/5/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/1/3/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/1/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/1/5/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/4/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/4/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/4/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/6/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/7/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/7/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/7/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/7/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/8/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/8/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/2/8/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/1/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/1/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/1/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/1/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/4/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/6/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/6/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/6/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/3/8/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/4/2/5/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/4/3/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/4/3/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/4/3/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/4/7/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/5/1/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/6/2/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/6/2/5/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/6/3/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/6/3/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/6/3/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/6/5/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/2/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/2/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/2/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/3/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/3/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/4/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/6/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/7/8/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/8/2/5/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/8/3/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/8/3/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.0/8/3/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/1/2/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/1/2/5/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/1/5/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/1/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/1/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/1/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/4/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/6/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/6/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/6/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/2/8/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/2/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/2/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/2/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/3/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/6/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/7/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/8/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/4/8/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/6/2/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/6/2/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/6/2/8/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/6/3/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/6/4/3/
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MG-03-TT-00001.5/7/1/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/7/2/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/7/4/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/7/6/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/7/8/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/2/4/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/2/6/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/2/7/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/3/1/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/4/2/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/4/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/4/5/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/6/3/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/6/5/
MG-03-TT-00001.5/8/7/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/1/2/7/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/1/3/4/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/1/3/8/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/2/1/6/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/4/1/3/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/4/2/1/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/4/6/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/6/1/3/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/6/2/1/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/6/4/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/6/8/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/7/1/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/7/4/6/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/7/4/8/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/7/6/4/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/7/6/8/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/7/8/4/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/7/8/6/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/8/1/3/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/8/1/5/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/8/2/1/
MG-03-TT-00002.0/8/6/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/1/2/4/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/1/2/8/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/1/7/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/4/1/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/7/4/1/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/7/8/1/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/8/1/2/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/8/4/7/
MG-03-TT-00002.5/8/6/7/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/1/2/6/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/1/4/2/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/1/8/2/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/6/1/2/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/7/1/4/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/7/1/6/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/7/1/8/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/7/6/1/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/8/4/6/
MG-03-TT-00003.0/8/6/4/
MG-03-TT-00003.5/1/6/2/
MG-03-TT-00003.5/4/8/1/
MG-03-TT-00003.5/8/1/7/
MG-03-TT-00003.5/8/4/1/
MG-03-TT-00004.0/4/1/8/
MG-03-TT-00004.0/8/1/4/
MG-03-TT-00004.0/8/6/1/
MG-03-TT-00004.5/8/1/6/

[moeee]

I don't get it Woof43

Looking at your permutations and the Size of the Wagers, it appears that your most favoured selections are 8,4,1.
Yet the permutations of 1 - 4 - 8 and 1 - 8 - 4 appear to be ranked well down the list , if they appear at all.

How does that work?

[woof43]

I don't get it Woof43

Looking at your permutations and the Size of the Wagers, it appears that your most favoured selections are 8,4,1.
Yet the permutations of 1 - 4 - 8 and 1 - 8 - 4 appear to be ranked well down the list , if they appear at all.

How does that work?
The first thing you want to do is only invest on positive expectations.

As I posted just recently in another thread here, I classify the race on the Favourite and what was the major factors or combination of major /minor factors that determined that Favourite, then the seperation between it and the 2nd Fav.
I then have my subset of data
Remember at the most we have only about 15 factors for the dogs. and how they punters play each of those combinations is so predictable, I just compile all the past results and I know the avg payoffs or positive/negative expectations for each combination by rank order.

So you would have seen in that race what were the Factors in determining it a Fav.

But as you would have seen in that other thread the gold was laid out, but it was too difficult to do?
Don't keep trying to handicap better, you'll improve .5 of a percent, improve your wagering improve 100%, learn to do your database, compile your results create sub sets of data based on a few Factors,
I know you have spreadsheets to do this automatically

Give up the notion of betting only your top selection (especially when over time its a negative expectation) and your halfway there.

[moeee]

?????

Next time I ask you something Woof , Just Ignore me :(

[woof43]

Split times
1 5.120
2 5.153
3 5.214
4 5.245
5 5.088
6 5.124
7 5.204
8 5.220
This is an interesting race, with the #2 early Fav. its had approx 71 starts, starts 69 and 71 are its best races, seems strange but then considering it's past "form".it is most probably expected.
I have the #5 and #1 leading followed closely by the #6.
I'm expecting the #1 to improve it's had 2 starts since a spell, raced heavy, floundered out of the boxes both starts and finished both races off ok.

Box Payoff Rank
1 $3.54 1
2 $6.69 4
3 $22.94 5
4 $58.75 8
5 $3.63 2
6 $5.59 3
7 $55.13 7
8 $28.65 6

[woof43]

I don't get it Woof43

Looking at your permutations and the Size of the Wagers, it appears that your most favoured selections are 8,4,1.
Yet the permutations of 1 - 4 - 8 and 1 - 8 - 4 appear to be ranked well down the list , if they appear at all.

How does that work?


to answer your question they were ranked tied 331

#1 was a terrible underlay in that race for the win spot

[moeee]

Split times
1 5.120
2 5.153
3 5.214
4 5.245
5 5.088
6 5.124
7 5.204
8 5.220
This is an interesting race, with the #2 early Fav. its had approx 71 starts, starts 69 and 71 are its best races, seems strange but then considering it's past "form".it is most probably expected.
I have the #5 and #1 leading followed closely by the #6.
I'm expecting the #1 to improve it's had 2 starts since a spell, raced heavy, floundered out of the boxes both starts and finished both races off ok.

Box Payoff Rank
1 $3.54 1
2 $6.69 4
3 $22.94 5
4 $58.75 8
5 $3.63 2
6 $5.59 3
7 $55.13 7
8 $28.65 6

Obviously none of this related to the as posted RACE 9 at The Meadows.
So what Race was it actually?
Last Wednesday?

EDIT: Seems it was Race 10

[woof43]

Box 1st Split Rating Rank
1 $8.66 4
2 $29.90 7
3 $10.24 5
4 $24.69 6
5 $4.29 2
9 $144.93 8
10 $5.30 3
8 $3.52 1
#8 will need some luck to get around this 1st turn, if it does, it wins easy.

I'm hoping for the upset here, plumping for the #5 & #3 to have a good show

[moeee]

I'll go a FlexiTri for $1 worth
8 - 1,5,10