Don Scott Favourites

[Try Try Again]

This is a system I have been following daily since 20th March and it is showing a S/R >32% and POT%>70% - I believe the latter will drop as the system enters new grounds but still should show an overall healthy profit.

RULES

Only consider Victorian and NSW meetings on Good or Dead tracks
Don Scott Favourite between $2.00 and $3.60 inclusive
No Don Scott equal favourites
No city meetings
No "Open" Maiden races, restricted Maiden races OK
Races with 8 to 13 runners only
Races >= 1200m only
The only other proviso I use is the contender's SP must be <=14.00 but this rule may not suit everyone unless you have the time to monitor the changing prices.

Today's contenders are:-

Bendigo R3 Zaeem
Bendigo R6 Keep Control
Bendigo R7 Redinsky

Good luck to anyone who jumps aboard the roller coaster ride!

[darkydog2002]

Thanks for that.
Will monitor it for awhile.

Cheers
darky.

[aussielongboat]

they all ran a place and betting each way you won 33% POT.

cheers

[Try Try Again]

I should have included the Place S/R is about 64% showing a POT% of approximately 20% over 93 bets since 20th March.

Dividends are based on best of NSW and Vic totes.

Obviously there is still a long way to go but the signs are good!

[Try Try Again]

Two potential contenders today at Cranbourne depending on SP rule.

R4#9 Tequila Queen
R7#1 Road To Roam

[Try Try Again]

No winners from the 2 selections at Cranbourne.

There is one contender at Ballarat (depending on SP).

R4#12 Fleeting Embrace

Is it too early for any survivors to put on their safety vests and move to rescue boats?

[aussielongboat]

I have trialed your system with my data.
my results showed about -2% On T/0 using tatts dividends.

If you want to give it a real pump along I would suggest the following:
1. Win% rank 1-3
2. Career starts <=10
3. All tracks in Australia

Using the above and making a SP guess this is what you get for today

Ballarat R 4 #12 0x072 Fleeting Embrace
Wyong R9 #11 5x372 Kentucky Belle
York R1 #5 5x349 Double Swirl

cheers
aussie

[Try Try Again]

Hi Aussielongboat,

Thanks for your reply.

Did you only consider Good and Dead Tracks as you have listed Wyong which is a Heavy track?

As I said in my original rules I have only looked at NSW and VIC meetings so how did the other States qualifiers go as I am achieving >70% POT currently.

What %POT and S/R did you achieve using your new rules?

If we continue to inspire others to look at the rules and modify them maybe we can get the pot of gold!

[aussielongboat]

I used all surfaces and all races and I didnt filter out the other states.
i will have to reload the data to get the surfaces and the race class accurate.
that will take some time.

the main thing i noticed was that the SP filter was very important.

cheers

[aussielongboat]

Ballarat R 4 #12 0x072 Fleeting Embrace......unplcd
Wyong R9 #11 5x372 Kentucky Belle.......scr
York R1 #5 5x349 Double Swirl 1st 2.90/1.50

[max]

Try using a 1:4 ratio for each way bets.

[Job123]

What happened today no bets ? or has try or Aussie given up posting the tips Try Try I think it is to early to give up on it .

[Bhagwan]

I have found the Percentage place rankings more accurate & profitable to use

rather than the Win percentage ranking.

[Bhagwan]

I forgot to mention that API ranking is more profitable, than the Win or Place

rankings, including Maiden races, which is surprising.

I based this research on the Top 5 rankings for each of the 3 categories.

[Try Try Again]

Job123,

There was one selection yesterday which ran 3rd and paid $2.20.

Today there are only 2 possible selections

Seymour R2#10 Initial Response
Newcastler R6#8 Siegel

[Try Try Again]

Initial Response did the right thing for us yesterday winning at $3.50/$1.60.

Only 2 possible contenders today at Mudgee

R5#2 Cugat Magic
R7#1 Sutton Princess

[Try Try Again]

Cugat Magic ran 3rd yesterday paying $2.50 place, the other runner ran unplaced.

Today there are 3 possible selections at Qurindi

R2#1 Northern Mark
R4#9 Shrewd Princess
R5#7 Greek

Good luck to anyone still onboard!

[Try Try Again]

I made a mistake in my previous post with Quirindi R5#7 Greek not being a selection as there were only 7 runners which was unfortunate as it was a winner$4.30/$2.40!

The other 2 selection both placed $1.40 and $3.10

[Job123]

Try Try I AM confused what would happen to a midweek metro meeting or saturday meeting with these rules ? and say it was a cup races at geelong on a wednesday the class with that would be stronger than a sat meet . So if that happens would the geelong meeting be a bet if its on a wednesday ?

[Try Try Again]

Hi Job123,

As per the original rules you do not bet on City meetings. A Country Cup is acceptable provided it passes the other rules i.e. distance, price and number of starters rules.

There are no selections today as both meetings are worse than Dead tracks.

[Try Try Again]

Again due to wet tracks there are no selections for today

[Try Try Again]

2 possible selections at Wagga Wagga today (Dead Track)are:-

R4#6 Dancing Doll
R6#2 Hendricus

[Try Try Again]

A winner ($2.80/$1.40) and a second (-/$2.50) from the 2 selections today at Wagga Wagga.

[Try Try Again]

4 potential selections today

Bendigo R6#7 Dixie Doll
Wagga Wagga R1#5 Magic Shag
Wagga Wagga R2#1 Shimmering Heights
Wagga Wagga R5#3 Southern Shimmer

[Bhagwan]

Its amazing how many of the Top Don Scott selections run a place at very juicy prices.

[Try Try Again]

Hi Bhagwan,

Prior to today's selections there have been 106 selections for 67 placings (S/R 63.2%) for a profit of $22.04 (based on $1 investment).

There have been 21 which have paid >=$2.00, with the largest place dividend of $4.70.

POT% currently (for the place) is 20.8%

Will it continue?

[Try Try Again]

Today's results were:-

Bendigo R6#7 Dixie Doll 2nd -/$2.40
Wagga Wagga R1#5 Magic Shag 2nd -/$2.50
Wagga Wagga R2#1 Shimmering Heights 3rd -/$1.70
Wagga Wagga R5#3 Southern Shimmer Won $3.70/$1.50

[Merriguy]

Well it certainly has today! Congrats.

[Job123]

Try Try would it be possible to give a break down of sydney and melbourne profit figures ?

[Try Try Again]

Hi Job123,

There is very little between the 2 States

NSW

54 bets
18 winners
Win Bank $44.10
Win POT% 81.7%
Place Bank $17.00
Place POT% 31.5 %

VIC

56 bets
18 winners
Win Bank $31.20
Win POT% 55.7%
Place Bank $9.14
Place POT% 16.3%

[Try Try Again]

2 possible selections today

Newcastle R5#5 Capital Raising
Wangaratta R6#6 Kong Kristian

[Try Try Again]

Capital Raising won $5.20/$1.70

[partypooper]

Going great guns Try. especially for the place. lets hope it holds up!

[Try Try Again]

Thanks Partypooper.

There are 5 possible selections today.

Geelong R6#1 Circumference
Geelong R8#3 Absolute King
Gunnedah R3#1 Double Your Money
Sale R3#10 Tizona
Sale R4#3 Optimal

[Job123]

The good run ends--- but in the past has there been a run of outs like this before ? if the odds are high a run of outs is not a worry but if ds toprate fav is mostly the fav it is a worry . Try Try can you say if there is reason to worry ?

[aussielongboat]

Like all selection methods it will establish an average return after it has enough data.
The problem is you never know how much is enough data - most of the time.

e.g.
is this a temporary setback OR establishment of a long term trend.

I have seen approaches like this win for at say 12-15% POT for 3 years and then just head south like they never existed.

cheers

aussie

[Try Try Again]

Yesterday's results were a disgrace!

Geelong R6#1 Circumference Unpl
Geelong R8#3 Absolute King Unpl
Gunnedah R3#1 Double Your Money 3rd -/$1.40
Sale R3#10 Tizona Unpl
Sale R4#3 Optimal Unpl

There are 7 possible selections today

Dubbo R4#5 Panov
Dubbo R5#5 Gold Sultan
Echuca R4#2 El Toro
Echuca R5#9 Rezonated
Echuca R6#4 Muktashef
Echuca R9#7 Filouka
Echuca R10#4 The Night's Hot

No need to panic yet with yesterday's results, let's hope we are back on deck today!

[Job123]

PANIC NOW REPEAT PANIC NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bhagwan]

Yes Job123 , Head for the Hills.

The Punting world is going to end as we know it.

I am typing this from under my bed which is where all the rest of you should be right now.

Jokes aside.

Every method has a thing called runs of outs , we can reasonable predict how long that run will be once we have a stronger understanding of its average SR.
e.g. 20% SR , we can expect at some stage a run of 36 outs in a row.
The expected runs of outs , only apply to that day, because the next day is the start of a new cycle, that's why its not a good idea to carry
progressional bets over to the next day.

Less experienced punters think that as soon as there is one not so good day , they think that's the end of everything as we know it.

That's why stop/ losses are used .

I have seen this many times in the past using the Neurals, but its average percentage SR (20% for top selection) does not change, year to year.

I have seen very expensive rating services do the same thing.

But if one feels strongly enough about the Don Scott selections have indeed turned to putty , start Laying them to fall over and watch what happens to your bank account.

Try and enjoy the Daylight .

I'm going back under my bed now.

[Dennis G]

I am typing this from under my bed which is where all the rest of you should be right now.

Jeez, Bhags, I hope you've got a lot of room under your bed then. Big screen TV, pizzas and an Esky would be kinda cool too. :)

But you're correct, all methods have their 'down time' and it is this very 'down time' that causes most punters to ditch their current successful method after hitting one or two potholes and leap on to the next, new successful idea, unsuccessfully.

I learned long ago that indecision will not take the bickies and success is measured by your own volition.

[Job123]

I said in another post if a run of outs is ok if the odds are high but the facts seem to point to a loser in the long run as the odds are not high----- however if Try Try has a long past history or someone else can use data to say a profit is possible then I would maybe think again but thats 12 outs in 2 days !!!! and small odds since tips were posted------ still a worry .

[Try Try Again]

Job123 - Ye of little faith!

This is not the time to panic it's the time to bet up!!

Only 2 places yesterday from the 7 selections ($1.60 & $1.90)

Today's possible selections are:-

Mornington R2#2 Colony
Mornington R6#5 Black Artois
Mornington R8#5 Clinches
Mornington R9#3 Retaliate
Goulburn R3#1 Geemeup
Goulburn R5#2 Tuscan Power

[partypooper]

Sorry Try it was all "MY" fault,......... I posted congratulations !!!!!!

anyway I'm sure it will recover!

[darkydog2002]

I reckon this one could be a long term winner as your using the best rating service in the country.
I personally dont bet on dead tracks as I,m risk aversive but the prices are such that over time the prices should counter any losses.

Cheers and good luck with it.
darky

[Try Try Again]

Today's results were:-

Mornington R2#2 Colony 3rd -/$1.50
Mornington R6#5 Black Artois 3rd -/$3.40
Mornington R8#5 Clinches Won $4.50/$2.30
Mornington R9#3 Retaliate unpl
Goulburn R3#1 Geemeup unpl
Goulburn R5#2 Tuscan Power unpl

Of the 11 unplaced runners in the past 3 days these were their SP:-

$2.50, $3.20, $4.00, $4.20, $4.40, $4.60 (2), $5.50 (3) and $6.00

which would indicate they were "favoured" in the market OR were they overbet because they are the Don Scott favourite.

[Job123]

Try Try do not pay any attention to darky dog he lies and posts a crap system The long term result of any system requires value in the tote prices with dons scott top rater you have just said the favs = don scott top. To have a hope of this working go back and look at your past results and look at the top of ds top where it meets a price of 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or more dollers(tote price just before the jump ) and see it a profit it made .

[Try Try Again]

No selections today due to track conditions being worse than Dead.

[Try Try Again]

Hi Job123,

I looked at your suggestion of only considering contenders with an SP of >=$5.00. In the past 38 bets, there would have only been 3 winners, the bank would have dropped by 1/3 and would currently be on a 18 losing streak - Scary stuff!

An aspect I will look at are the class of races being thrown up.

[Job123]

If you fogot the 2.00 3.60 rule ( still ds top ) I remember a big odds winner not long ago . might be worth looking into .

[max]

What other filters can you all suggest? Maybe cutting selections >5.00 as you have already said that all those selections returned a loss.

What about DS's 2nd fav? or 3rd? Better value?

[Try Try Again]

Hi Job123,

Using the $2.00 to $3.60 DS rated horses increased the Win Strike rate and returned an increase in Bank of 64.6 units (prior to the other rules being implemented).

Hi Max,

I have only looked at the DS favourite so I do not have any information on DS's 2nd or 3rd favourites. Recently a qualifier that started at $14.00 SP paid only $9.20 although I got $17.00 on IASBet. The results I tabulate (for consistency) are best of NSW or VIC Tab's so I listed it at $9.20.

[Try Try Again]

Only 1 possible selection today

Hawkesbury

R5#4 River Press

[Job123]

I looked at your suggestion of only considering contenders with an SP of >=$5.00. In the past 38 bets, there would have only been 3 winners, the bank would have dropped by 1/3 and would currently be on a 18 losing streak - Scary stuff!

Todays horse at 6 minutes to 12 pm is showing 13 dollars on both nsw and vic tabs( pre post 11$ ) so what if its more than 5 dollars just before the jump according to the above it would be wrong to bet on it ?

[Job123]

The horse was unplaced so a new rule of no bet if 5.00 dollers or over is a good idea .

[max]

Or that way would work as well. !

The point is to look at filters that contribute to your winnings amd/or filters that reduce your losses. Not choosing selections that are >=5.00 looks like a good start.

[Job123]

Just saw in race 7 at syd today dons scott top winning rated at 5.00 dollars and paying 16 dollars in vic totes. So Try Try says the top rater loses if its 2.00 to 3.60 range and is 5.00 dallars or more sp That brings up a new system rule 1 ----5.00 or higher DS top 2-------must be 5.00 dollars or more sp-- the horse was also within the top 4 of the nurals cp rank so thats the 3rd rule keen to know if anyone has data to find if this is a good system in the long run .

[Pete the punter]

I can't understand why people start looking to change things when there are a few loses.
I've only just starter looking at this forum last week, I have put the selections in from Thursday last week into a staking plan and we are still $250 ahead with a starting bank of $400.
I will continue to enter the details as TRY TRY Again posts and see what happens.

[beton]

Aye Aye Pete.
Punting is a mugs game. 95% of the fraternity are losers. They have to be to pay the 5% that win. The rest put in and take out enough to be enticed to put in again. Now take the time to see where all the long time forum members are. The ones that are savvy. They have changed to laying. even some which are not computer savvy have moved.

You make a system and trial it in real time with real money. If it is a goer then you put a staking plan to it to match the results. Altering it all the time throws money away. You are going to get good days and bad days and a few horrible runs. If the system is a good one and the staking plan is the correct match then it will survive and flourish. If not ditch it. Take the positives and try make another system. You cannot fix something if it is fundamently flawed.

[Job123]

You make a system and trial it in real time with real money. If it is a goer then you put a staking plan to it to match the results---- to beton how do you determin if its a goer as you say . All I want to know is if anyone can test this system of mine here are the rules RULE 1 Top rated Don SCOTT 5$ or more RULE 2 sp 5 dollars and higher Rule 3 winthin top 4 cp nurals Rule 4 dead/good tracks in melbourne and sydney no city meetings Rule 5 8 to 13 runners only .

[Pete the punter]

JOB123 - post the selections and i'll throw them into the staking plan.
You didn't specify if there were 2 DS top raters what happens and whether it's a win only, place only, EW or 1:4 bet

[darkydog2002]

Spot on Pete.Why change a winning formula.

Why research past reults ? Past results bear no relation to future results.
There are just too many variables in a race to have something duplicated exactly.Its a exercise in futility.

The author has developed a sensible set of rules that work for him and the only way he can test it is future races.

Cheers
darky

[beton]

Job123
Firstly you make sure that your system has some merit. Top DS has that. Research (just looking at past forum posts will do) will show you that by themselves they will not produce a positive. You apply your rules and see if you can check against a database of past results. This may even require digging up past results yourself. If you are satisfied of the potential then test it with $1 bets. In a week you will know without a doubt whether to persevere with it or not. Then you ask yourself whether the risk reward ratio is worth it. As Pete says it is working. You are trying to tweak it. have some small bets on it. Compare the two. You are asking to compare on SP. In real time nobody knows what this will be. It has to be to your parameters, your emotions. Beton

[Try Try Again]

Hi Job123,

I do not have the Neural information for your selections but using the other 4 rules (from 20th March 2011 using best of NSW and Vic totes)

35 bets
3 winners
Win Collect $40.30
Win Profit $5.30

13 Places
Place Collect $36.40
Place Profit $1.40

[Try Try Again]

There are no selections today due to large fields at Scone and <1200m races at Geelong.

Interestingly the Synthetic track at Geelong has thrown up 11 selections before today for no winners and 5 placings ($1.50, $1.70 twice, $1.80 and $2.20). I will keep an eye on this track for future selections.

[Job123]

RULE 1 Top rated Don SCOTT 3.70 to 4.95 or RULE 2-- sp 4 dollars and higher Rule rule 3 dead/good tracks in melbourne and sydney no city meetings Rule 4- 8 to 13 runners only . rule 5 greater than 1200 metres Try Try can you test this system .

[Pete the punter]

TRY TRY

Did you miss one today or did i get the rules wrong

Geelong Rc2 No10 Varella

2000m | 9 starters | 3yo maiden | good track | $2.80 DS rated

2nd @ $2.20

[max]

As a noob I don't undersand the "melbourne or sydney no city tracks"?

[Job123]

RULE 1 Top rated Don SCOTT 3.70 to 4.95 RULE 2-- sp 4 dollars and higher Rule rule 3 dead/good tracks in melbourne and sydney no city(metro) meetings Rule 4- 8 to 13 runners only . rule 5 greater than 1200 metres .Rule 6 within 21 days last start . Try Try can you test this system please .

[Try Try Again]

There is only one possible selection today

Kembla Grange
R3#5
Purring Flyer

Pete The Punter - Varella was an Open Maiden i.e. 3yo+ Maiden so was not a selection unfortunate as it paid $2.20 the place!

Job123 - I can not test for Days since last started but your original rules gave 57 selections 6 winners (one was $20.90) for total collect of $49.60 LOT 13.0%, 19 places (one was $11.90) for total collect $56.00 LOT 1.8%.

There are 3 possible selections today (depending on SP)
Scone R2#6 Walpersdorf
Kembla Grange R5#5 Sherwoods Choice
Kembla Grange R6#2 La Comedienne

[The Elk]

As a noob I don't undersand the "melbourne or sydney no city tracks"? Job,
I think the confusion is from using Melbourne/Sydney instead of Vic/NSW

non metro tracks are Provincial/Country tracks which I believe you are referring to (I think)

[Try Try Again]

Purring Flyer ran 3rd paying $1.80

Job123 - You ended up with 2 unplaced runners and La Comedienne which won ($5.10/$1.80) but did not qualify since its SP was $3.50.

[Pete the punter]

Try
No Problem, missed the + next to 3yo.

Just checking some other info for the day.

what about 13/5/11 Geelong Rc7#12 Parma

Pete

[Try Try Again]

Hi Pete the Punter,

I had Charming Sophie as the selection at $3.90 and it ran unplaced.

[Pete the punter]

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Where did Charming Sophie Come from??

[Pete the punter]

Just Trialling some things, let's see how these go
Not sure about track conditions as yet

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[Try Try Again]

No selections for today

[Try Try Again]

Hi Pete The Punter,

You can not go back and look at the previous days selections because after the days races the information is updated and the "selections" change depending on the results of the race.

You need to get the info on the day and work from these.

[Pete the punter]

Fair enough, i didn't realise that, I stand corrected

[Pete the punter]

WF Rc1 #7 1st $1.50|$1.04
WF Rc3 #1 Unpl
WF Rc4 #1 Unpl
WF Rc6 #3 1st $3.70 | $1.50
Hor Rc3 #5 Scratched
Hor Rc5 #6 Unpl
Cran Rc4 #8 Scratched
Cran Rc6 #1 2nd $2.60
Cran Rc7 #2 Unpl

[max]

Where can I get the Don Scott tips from?

[Job123]

Try Try you have not posted the tips for your ds system for a while have you axed it ?

[Try Try Again]

Away on holidays for 2 weeks

[Try Try Again]

Just to give an update for the meetings whilst I was away on holidays - WA great weather at this time of year!

There were 25 bets for 3 winners and another 8 places.

Win Bank has dropped from $64.00 to $49.90 and Place Bank has dropped from $20.74 to $15.54 so overall not a good result.

On raw data from 20th March until 31st May there were 1084 races for 216 wins (19.9% S/R) showing a loss of $30.35 (LOT 2.8%) and 540 places (49.8% S/R) showing a loss of $9.06 (LOT 0.8%). This is with no elimination rules except NSW and Vic tracks only and track conditions must be Dead or better.

[michaelg]

Try, those are very good results even without applying any filters apart from the two basic ones mentioned.

Two questions:

1) Were the results using TAB divvies? Betfair divvies would almost guarantee a satisfactory profit.

2) Were the results compiled before the running of the first race at each venue? If not, then the results may not be accurate because the D.S. market changes.

[Try Try Again]

Hi Michaelg,

All selections are BEFORE races are run.

Dividends are Sportsbet Citybest+ for City races and best of NSW/VIC Tab dividends for Country meetings.

[michaelg]

Thanks, Try.

I would be surprised if Betfair did not beat your figures, especially because the strike rate was 19.9% which therefore would have snared one or two good-priced winners and these more often than not are higher than the best TAB divvy.