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moeee
29th May 2011, 11:34 AM
Sandown Race 5
3 AUTUMN BLING $2.7
8 ZURI DIAMOND $4
5 LONG GULLY ARCH $6
1 ARMAGEDDON $9.5
7 FEARFUL LAD $25
4 HAYDO'S REVENGE $25
6 BLOW A KISS $30
2 IRONIC TWIST $100
FlexiTri for $6 worth
3,8
1,3,5,8
1,3,5,8
moeee
29th May 2011, 01:32 PM
Sandown Race 6
8 ATELIER $4.3
1 DESTRUCTINATOR $4.7
3 INSIDE TRADER $6
6 OILY $8
9 MISS NAH WEE $11
4 EXACTA BABE $11
10 GROOBER $16
5 BOWSTREET SECRET $50
woof43
29th May 2011, 02:28 PM
1st 2nd
1 5.17 25.58
2 5.23 25.60
3 5.20 25.48
4 5.25 25.23
9 5.38 25.72
6 5.31 25.72
7 5.17 25.58
8 5.14 25.43
I guess what seems an easy race for the #8, just might be a little more difficult than first expected.
If the #7 hinders the 8 at the start, makes the #4 task a lot easier, but also that of the other inside couple
woof43
29th May 2011, 03:21 PM
1 5.21 25.368
2 5.14 25.487
3 5.30 25.006
4 5.16 25.371
5 5.12 25.425
6 5.17 25.632
7 5.20 25.184
8 5.14 25.536
when the #3 has won previously, the leaders of those races have run around the 5.09-5.11 and its been able to pick them up (splits adjusted to meadows)
moeee
29th May 2011, 03:37 PM
When you do the Standard Deviations, would you delete a run where tha animal fell or finished tailed off?
woof43
29th May 2011, 03:49 PM
Of course any Oops are deleted, but also you need to delete runs that are outliers in the data. These are times which are too fast or too slow.
If your using a monte carlo simulator to crunch data using the Std dev. be aware of a problem that most off the shelf stuff doesn't handle, say for example i have a dog with a time of 5.058 and a average std dev of .087 thats a normal std dev for a split at the meadows at some point in the simulations there the simulator will spit out times like 4.85 etc which we know is quicker then the track record. so you need to set minimum limits .
Hope that makes some sense
moeee
29th May 2011, 04:07 PM
Something that worries me is when an animal has 1 outstanding time.
Obviously it is capable of running that time, but why would you delete it?
And how do you assess whether the time is too fast to include?
moeee
29th May 2011, 04:34 PM
SALE Race 4
7 MCMORGAN $3.6
1 ANDO'S OCTANE $4
8 CREWSAN JAY JAY $5.5
2 BRIAN BORU $9.3
5 BITTER TENSION $14
3 DAYS OF STEAM $15
6 BUCKLEY ROSE $20
woof43
29th May 2011, 04:58 PM
Something that worries me is when an animal has 1 outstanding time.
Obviously it is capable of running that time, but why would you delete it?
And how do you assess whether the time is too fast to include?
The too fast time normally is from races where they start on turns, and they have had an outside box these types are nearly running a straight line and creating a larger radius as I have spoken before, unless they draw the same box and distance its unlikely to be repeated.
When to delete a time in 2nd sectionals, the fastest 2nd sectionals in most dogs LTD form is when they "miss the start" read that again "when they miss the start" cast an eye over your form guide looking for "S" before the calls even if the dog is a front runner type their fastest 2nd sectional is inevitably a race where they missed the start. These are the starts that suck punters in "back me next start" you know the type.
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