Help regarding a horse's age please

[Barny]

Can a "2 y/o" either be actually born one year an eleven months ago whereas another 2 y/o could have been born one year and one day ago ???

Can a 2 y/o have been born on the 31st July and one year and one day later be a 2 y/o ???

[stugots]

Barny, I may be a bit off in my months but recall that mares come into season in the southern hemisphere in August/Sept & can remain fertile for up to 6 months or so, & their gestation period is 320 days+.

So no, you couldn't have 2 years olds competing against each other with one being 11 months older than the other - I believe the biggest difference would be about 5-6 months

[Barny]

What has the gestation period got to do with it stugots ??

[stugots]

yee gods, why do I bother...

[Mark]

LOL

[Barny]

stugots, do please bother. I simply don't know !

I doubt there is anything in this world that I would have knowledge on that you haven't already got covered ..... but you never know ?!

When you pick yourself up off the floor from laughing at my extreme ignorance, would you kindly get around to the task at hand and give a "simple" middle aged / older Aussie an explanation or I'll get someone to give you a good seeing to ..... LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Barny]

Your information is dead wrong stugots

[Barny]

All I was doing was asking a question stugots, ..... and Mark. Yes, lazy, but just doing what this forum is all about. I've contributed some good stuff here, but obviously not in keeping with your lofty standards.

It's entirely possible (although unlikely from your narcissistic platform) that you may have missed the ingredient you crave, .....

If you use your nous, it's not too difficult to come up with a conservative 40% + Win S/R on the back of a simple filter or two. I KNOW that a couple here use this one filter, so simple, and yet so overlooked, as their base ..... and with the most obvious of secondary filters one could imagine there’s a decent POT, a recurring stat proven since at least 1953.

stugots, the last laugh may be on you ...... but you'll never know, will you.

Like some here, I can guarantee a Win S/R of > 40% with double figure winners. But I'm the last person to find this out aren't I ??? There have been a plethora of "successful" and "knowledgeable" punters, who have let it slip at some stage that they don't win ..... so all their spruiking is showing a LOT ??

So stugots ….. and Mark, there’s two of us here that successfully use the most simplest of selection method with a primary filter and a logical and secondary filter that shows a decent and recurring POT, and has done so for decades, yet it cannot be filtered from even the most sophisticated database.

As they say, the better systems have the fewest rules.

Strange as it may seem to you, I had to give up my job, and took to the punt, and punted the most simplest of systems (of which I've followed for a couple of decades) and I'm making better than really good wages. In my spare time I've researched even further all the records, and this has shown profitable results for decades. Sporting Globe / Herald Sun ....... Strangely enough ????? , it's not discussed here. Funny about that !!!

Stick to your superior knowledge stugots ..... and Mark. I would have given freely of my insights, and have done so when thinking out loud, BUT for the simple reason that you could "write the best system in the world" on the pavement outside Randiwck and no-one would take notice of it ...... that's not one of mine but its' so true !!!

This is supposed to be a share of information and thoughts ..... there are a couple who win good money on here, but you need to be benevolent ! and you're not stugots ..... Mark.

[Barny]

Rising Fast in case you're wondering .......

[AngryPixie]

Barny

My understanding is (and I could be making this up) that in the southern hemisphere breeders try for a foaling date as soon after August 1st as possible. This allows owners/trainers to take advantage of the rapid development that occurs at this age. In relative terms an August foaled horse is probably much stonger than an October foaled horse at 2yo or even 3yo, than when the same two horses are 5yo or 6yo.

Technically I guess it's possible for an August 1st and a July 31st foaled horse to be both considered the same age. I've no idea whether it's actually biologically possible.

Hope that helps, but it's nothing I've really thought too much about.

Pixie

[The Ocho]

Can a "2 y/o" either be actually born one year an eleven months ago whereas another 2 y/o could have been born one year and one day ago ???

Can a 2 y/o have been born on the 31st July and one year and one day later be a 2 y/o ???
Hi Barny,

Don't listen to me about horse ages BUT surely it would be the same as any other thing that has a cut off date (school entry, under age sports, etc).

I think they could easily have what you say Barny but I have no idea if horses aren't born all year round.

But, for the sake of getting you an actual answer I thought I'd look it up on Yahoo answers. I don't know if this is correct but this was voted the best answer:

"All thoroughbreds have the same birthday so that their ages can be standardized for comparison because of the historical lack of records of actual birth days. Their birthdays are January 1st in the northern hemisphere and August 1st in the southern hemisphere. After the first time a horse is alive on August 1st it is considered a yearling. The next August 1st is it's 2nd birthday and it is considered 2 years old, even though it could conceivably be one year one day old".