Monday Greyhounds

[moeee]

CRANBOURNE Race 6

2 ZIPPSTAR $3.4
6 CHIEF BAMBURY $4.7
4 PEDRO'S FINEST $4.7
1 DISRAELI $7.8
3 STATE OF POWER $14
5 SISCO TURBO $30
7 AREJAY ELITE $33
8 DAWN PRINCESS $40

Little between the top 3 in Race Times, so I advantaged the top selection only because it will lead.

[moeee]

CRANBOURNE Race 8

8 STEFAN BALE $2.3
6 CONNOR'S FURY $4.8
2 LUCENT $8
1 THANKS DES $14
7 RUNNIN' JUMPIN' $16
5 ALETA ALLEN $20
3 MIA TIGER $33
4 BINDI WAVES $33

Top selection having 1st start here , but is strong and should be suited.
2nd selection ran the Race of its Life with 2 lengths behind Radley Bale here last start.It won't repeat that effort.
The next 2 selections both ran last night - you make up your own minds what that means!!

[moeee]

CRANBOURNE Race 9

6 INVICTUS PHOENIX $3.3
4 AXEMAN $6.2
5 BARNEY'S PRIDE $6.9
3 OH WATTA MOVER $9.6
2 PLUTO POWER $11
7 INVICTUS VENESSA $12
8 WHY NOT BOB $16
1 OCTILLY GIRL $16

Top selection has excellent Form , but was aided by a remarkable run of drawing Box 1.
Box 6 could easily bring it undone.

[woof43]

CRANBOURNE Race 6

2 ZIPPSTAR $3.4
6 CHIEF BAMBURY $4.7
4 PEDRO'S FINEST $4.7
1 DISRAELI $7.8
3 STATE OF POWER $14
5 SISCO TURBO $30
7 AREJAY ELITE $33
8 DAWN PRINCESS $40

Little between the top 3 in Race Times, so I advantaged the top selection only because it will lead.
adjusted to meadows
1 5.228
2 5.020
3 5.234
4 5.254
5 5.223
6 5.217
7 5.215
8 5.297
Your right about the #2 , #6 its performance drop right off for the 2nd sectionals where its drawn, the #4 last start ran a poor 1st section, if it can begin better you'd expect it to be very hard to hold out.
4,2,3 for mine

[moeee]

#6 its performance drop right off for the 2nd sectionals where its drawn,

How many lines of relevant data are you basing that conclusion on?
I mean , ideally relevant would be actual Cranbourne starts from that Box.
But that would make the pool of data extremely tiny.
So obviously there are other tracks and Box Draws that can be used.

[woof43]

How many lines of relevant data are you basing that conclusion on?
I mean , ideally relevant would be actual Cranbourne starts from that Box.
But that would make the pool of data extremely tiny.
So obviously there are other tracks and Box Draws that can be used.
Its had 8 starts that box
5 on two turn tracks,
its std dev is very tight meaning it has run consistently the same. over the splits it's about .7 of a metre of its usual pace, and close to 3 metres over the second split.
It may find trouble, if you draw a line thru its split

[woof43]

Adjusted to meadows
1 5.084
2 5.140
3 5.412
4 5.130
5 5.188
6 5.188
7 5.138
8 5.283
Early speed is all inside and all the late pace is outside,

Looks like two lines of break at the start with the 1,2,3 running back diagonally, and the same for the 4,5,6,7,8
expect the leaders to be 1,2 4,5 with the #5 having very good 2nd sectionals.
5,4, and a blanket for the rest for mine

[moeee]

Woof43

Which Forum do your post your horse stuff?
I've never thought of you as having a horse interest.
Did move from greyhounds to horses recently?

[springjoker]

Tracked you down moeee, see your still doing your markets well. Hopefully you punted well today. Nothing changed with me still punting on odds on favs. And having the odd sportsbet. I punt best when I bet on place bets on greyhounds and horses. But I can't resist putting the lot on an odds on pop at one stage and doing the lot.

[moeee]

If there are any young , or not so young members who would like to grow up as clever a Punter as me , don't be too shy to ask me for help.

[moeee]

I punt best when I bet on place bets on greyhounds and horses. But I can't resist putting the lot on an odds on pop at one stage and doing the lot.

Bummer SpringJoker.
You really need to learn to protect your Bank.

When you say you put the lot, is that the lot like when you are going well, or does "the lot" usually mean when your Bank went down to say $50 , and you say "well I might as well put the lot on"?

[springjoker]

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My punting Guru. Anyone who hasn't had to top up there punting account in over 2 years must be doing something right.

Not betting tonight myself but I'll post some of springjoker's place tips around the nation tonight. My betting will start tomorrow in race 1 at Gawler - Goosebumps looks to have the class edge on that field.

[moeee]

I caught up with Darren , SpringJoker.
I invited him to this Forum.
Hopefully the gang can get together again for some useful fun nights , especially with the cold weather coming up.

The good thing about this Forum is the Moderators won't put up with no nonsense and that will stop those blowin troublemakers messing things up like they did the last Forum.
No nosense Policy? - sheesh , I nearly got banned the other day for trying to help someone out , but he got offended.
I really gotta learn to choose my words more carefully.

I'll be doing Races 7,8,9 at Shep tonight.

[springjoker]

Bummer SpringJoker.
You really need to learn to protect your Bank.

When you say you put the lot, is that the lot like when you are going well, or does "the lot" usually mean when your Bank went down to say $50 , and you say "well I might as well put the lot on"?


Usually after a few losses say the tab account was sitting on $97 I'll have a bet of $20 loss, a bet of $27 loss, then I'll wack the last $50 on something. Instead of reading the signs it's not my day and either bet smaller or when the account is getting smaller protect the bank as you say via betting smaller. Or any other tips change the betting option to flexi trifectas or first 4's, instead of win and place bets ?

[moeee]

Or any other tips change the betting option to flexi trifectas or first 4's, instead of win and place bets ?

You pick good SpringJoker.
You shouldn't be losing - EVER!!

You know how I bet.
2 bucks
5 bucks
and the biggest maybe 20 bucks.

I have 2 Grand.
You know how many losers in a row I need to have before I even get close to messing up my Bank to the stage where my nerves are shot to bits?
Where I throw it all away and bet berserk.
Or bet my last on a special and hoping GOD will give me one more chance to get back my losses.

It will never get to that stage SpringJoker.
Because My Bank is so much higher than My Betting Units.

If you gonna bet $20 and $40 SpringJoker, then your Bank has to be at least 20 times that amount - AT LEAST!!
Then you won't find your head getting messed up - maybe.

Do you find betting with say $5 a Race not worth the bother SpringJoker?
Don't you get pleasure from betting apart from when you Win Money?

[moeee]

HEY SPRING

Darrens Dog going around in the Last coming up at CRANBOURNE!!!

[springjoker]

Launceston Greyhounds
Race 2 #7 Bashy's Boy
Race 5 Qn 1,4
Race 6 #5 Ella Lucy


Shepparton Greyhounds
Race 5 #2 Dino Ferrari
Race 6 #4 Aden Jaya
Race 12 #4 Arvo's Stefan

[springjoker]

HEY SPRING

Darrens Dog going around in the Last coming up at CRANBOURNE!!!


Yeah watched it finished fourth wasn't a bad run in that field for a reserve.

[moeee]

Yeah watched it finished fourth wasn't a bad run in that field for a reserve.

Pretty ordinary I thought.
I remember it won a Race one night as a Reserve and paid $34 a Win.
I think Darren had $5 or $10 on it just for fun - as you would.

[woof43]

Woof43

Which Forum do your post your horse stuff?
I've never thought of you as having a horse interest.
Did move from greyhounds to horses recently?

That's a question without notice.

Funny you mention, but I do participate on a US horse racing forum, the recent triple crown meetings are some of the best wagering opportunities to be had anywhere around the world.

[springjoker]

Do you find betting with say $5 a Race not worth the bother SpringJoker?
Don't you get pleasure from betting apart from when you Win Money?


No it frustrates me to pick right bet $5 and only win $4.
And yeah I really hate losing.

At the end of the day though if you bet $5 instead of having a $50 bet, that's 10 losing bets you would risk instead of one. So it really makes sense. Well until I increase the account to a level where I can bet a larger %.

Well I'm prepared to try something different I'll put a couple of hundred in the tab account and bet in $5 amounts and see what happens.

[springjoker]

Pretty ordinary I thought.
I remember it won a Race one night as a Reserve and paid $34 a Win.
I think Darren had $5 or $10 on it just for fun - as you would.


It ran up to it's recent times around Cranbourne. Funny thing is the tier3 race went quicker than the FFA lol

[springjoker]

Which races are you punting or doing markets at Shepparton tonight mo ?

[moeee]

No it frustrates me to pick right bet $5 and only win $4.

Well I'm prepared to try something different I'll put a couple of hundred in the tab account and bet in $5 amounts and see what happens.

No.
Don't bet $5 on Odds On shots to Win.
Instead of putting say $50 a Win on it to win say $40 try to boost the dividend by taking Exotics.

Try and sort the Field out for the placings.
Even an Exact or a Quinella with a $1.80 shot often pays about $6 or so.
So if you got it for a $5 Unit, that would return $25 Profit.
And if it loses , oh well , you lost 5 bucks , big deal.

The only part that might ******** you off is if the Odds On wins and your other selection fails , you gonna say , "I shoulda put fifty on it!!!" :(

[moeee]

It ran up to it's recent times around Cranbourne. Funny thing is the tier3 race went quicker than the FFA lol

YOU SEE!!
You notice stuff like that.
I wouldn't even think about that sort of thing.

I can't believe you are losing.
Hey SpringJoker.
You bet on all sorts of stuff.
If you just could notice your greyhound betting results Only , do you think you would still be down?

I'm doing Shep 7,8,9.

[moeee]

SHEPPARTON Race 7

4 TRUE HOUSE $3.1
2 PARKER BALE $4.3
8 COME ON MAESTRO $6.4
7 ZIEBELL $12
1 QUEEN EUPHORIA $14
3 TIP RAT $15
6 CELEBRATION $20
5 VELVET SKY $25

The top selection here is showing $10 in The Watchdog Market
I'LD LIKE TO SEE THAT!!! :)

[springjoker]

No.
Don't bet $5 on Odds On shots to Win.
Instead of putting say $50 a Win on it to win say $40 try to boost the dividend by taking Exotics.

Try and sort the Field out for the placings.
Even an Exact or a Quinella with a $1.80 shot often pays about $6 or so.
So if you got it for a $5 Unit, that would return $25 Profit.
And if it loses , oh well , you lost 5 bucks , big deal.

The only part that might ******** you off is if the Odds On wins and your other selection fails , you gonna say , "I shoulda put fifty on it!!!" :(


Was thinking of something similar of taking exotics with the fav with either second or third fav to win with three greyhounds to finish second and a few to run third. For example race 5 @ launceston

1,4 to win
1,3,4,7 to run second
1,3,4,7,8 to finish third
Gives you a 27.77% for $5

You could even do something similar with first fours and have a saver of a couple of dollars on the quinella. I'm focussed moeee to make it work this time around with you to guide me how can we lose!!!

[moeee]

Why couldn't you just put the $5 on the Quinella 1 and 4?
Are they both dogs Even Money shots?

[springjoker]

Like you moeee I don't keep results stats to see where I'm winning on certain bets. I have an outstanding tennis punting record. But yeah I bet on greyhounds, harness, horses, sports. But if I can make those punting dollars last longer I'm all for it. And chatting to you tonight I've found a way where I can get that punting buzz for a longer lasting dollar.

[springjoker]

One will probably start $2.00 the four maybe $2.80 - $3.30
Quinella currently showing $3.10

[moeee]

Well I'm prepared to try something different I'll put a couple of hundred in the tab account and bet in $5 amounts and see what happens.

SpringJoker.
Did you lose that $200 you told me about a week or 2 ago?

[moeee]

One will probably start $2.00 the four maybe $2.80 - $3.30
Quinella currently showing $3.10

Yeah.
Hardly enough to cheer about if you only got $5 on it.

Hey SpringJoker.
Did you know Darren never , ever bets Odds Ons for a Win.
Theres gotta be some Wisdom in that.

Hey SpringJoker.
Them Odds On shots, do you at least make an effort to get a better Price on Betfair?

[springjoker]

SHEPPARTON Race 7

4 TRUE HOUSE $3.1
2 PARKER BALE $4.3
8 COME ON MAESTRO $6.4
7 ZIEBELL $12
1 QUEEN EUPHORIA $14
3 TIP RAT $15
6 CELEBRATION $20
5 VELVET SKY $25

The top selection here is showing $10 in The Watchdog Market
I'LD LIKE TO SEE THAT!!! :)


I think you'll get close to that price $7.20 - $7.80 form has tapered off lately. Also has average form from middle draws. If I was betting in that race and could get $1.50 on place place tote for the 8 I'd be on Him.

[springjoker]

Yeah.
Hardly enough to cheer about if you only got $5 on it.

Hey SpringJoker.
Did you know Darren never , ever bets Odds Ons for a Win.
Theres gotta be some Wisdom in that.

Hey SpringJoker.
Them Odds On shots, do you at least make an effort to get a better Price on Betfair?


Yeah I think Darren's shortest win quote is $3 from memory. At least some greyhound races are having fixed odds markets these days. Got overs in a distance race at Traralgon on Friday the winner was an odds on quote in the NGF formguide which grabbed my attention second fab scratched. Secured $4's then had another go at $3.20 ended up paying $2.20 from memory.

Betfair always get sucked into laying something and then it wins Bugga.

[springjoker]

SpringJoker.
Did you lose that $200 you told me about a week or 2 ago?


Took out $250 to pay the water bill and etag and left $38.06 in there which lost on Saturday gallops $0.06 in account till tomorrow.

[springjoker]

I'm not like you moeee, when I have a win I like to withdraw an spend on either bills, new wheelbarrow, tools, car tyres, a night out, plants for the garden etc. Because I know today's nice win could be tomorrow's losses.

[moeee]

Shepparton Race 8

6 EXCEL TO FLY $4.3
2 FIERCE WEETBIX $4.7
8 IMMORTAL THEORY $6.6
5 QUARTER HITCH $9
1 SNIPER'S SPECIAL $9.3
7 BARRABAS $16
4 CHARLIE CHUCKLES $16
3 MOUSE'S IMAGE $16

Very Hard Race.
I wouldn't be surprised if the worst 3 animals ran the Trifecta :(

[springjoker]

Was thinking of something similar of taking exotics with the fav with either second or third fav to win with three greyhounds to finish second and a few to run third. For example race 5 @ launceston

1,4 to win
1,3,4,7 to run second
1,3,4,7,8 to finish third
Gives you a 27.77% for $5

You could even do something similar with first fours and have a saver of a couple of dollars on the quinella. I'm focussed moeee to make it work this time around with you to guide me how can we lose!!!




Results race 5 1-4-3-8
Quinella $2.40
Trifecta $35.80
First 4 $84.30

Easy when the money isn't on!!! Lol

[moeee]

I think you'll get close to that price $7.20 - $7.80 form has tapered off lately. Also has average form from middle draws.

Good Call.
I mess up a lot like that.
If a dog Form has tapered off for no reason, then it ain't all of a sudden gonna return to its best.
Gotta get that in my mind from now on when I study.

[moeee]

Results race 5 1-4-3-8
Quinella $2.40
Trifecta $35.80
First 4 $84.30

Easy when the money isn't on!!! Lol

It may not have built your Bank up , but it is a guide to how well you gonna be going from now on.
Just don't kick yourself every time a Winner gets away.
Unless its at Big Odds of course.

[springjoker]

Do you reckon admin will give us our own greyhound betting forum sub heading moeee ?

[moeee]

Do you reckon admin will give us our own greyhound betting forum sub heading moeee ?

NAH.
They are at this stage a Horse Racing Forum.
And of course Sportsbetting.
There is no provision for Harness or Greyhounds.
And you know why don't you.
Lack of interest compared to those other 2 types of betting.
Horse Racing is the Sport of Kings!!
I hope that don't mean Greyhounds is for Queens :(

[springjoker]

Shepparton Race 8

6 EXCEL TO FLY $4.3
2 FIERCE WEETBIX $4.7
8 IMMORTAL THEORY $6.6
5 QUARTER HITCH $9
1 SNIPER'S SPECIAL $9.3
7 BARRABAS $16
4 CHARLIE CHUCKLES $16
3 MOUSE'S IMAGE $16

Very Hard Race.
I wouldn't be surprised if the worst 3 animals ran the Trifecta :(




Underrated the 7 moeee which was costly.

[moeee]

Last Race for me

Race 9

No Market but a $1 Box Quinella 2,3,4,5

[springjoker]

Catch ya tomorrow evening moeee. By that time hopefully my new punting system is in full winning swing!

[moeee]

What a ridiculous night.

In Race 8 half the Field runs into the outside fence at the turn , and in Race 9 half the Field runs into the running rail at the turn.

I can't wait until Cranbourne swaps places with Shepparton.

I lost all my Cranbourne winnings at Shepparton :(

[moeee]

Yeah

Cheers Springy.
Your presence made a ******** night into not such a ******** night, although it was still a bit ******** :)

[moeee]

I'm not like you moeee, when I have a win I like to withdraw an spend on either bills, new wheelbarrow, tools, car tyres, a night out, plants for the garden etc. Because I know today's nice win could be tomorrow's losses.

Thats all good Springy.
Like I think it was DownByLaw once said "you haven't won it until you've spent it.

But you really need a seperate Bank just for betting.
You sound like you may be living from pay packet to pay packet.
That makes it hard.
I been fortunate I never had a mortgage to pay off.
Plus I never go on holidays.
Plus I hate buying new clothes.
In fact , I hate spending money :)