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mattio
14th June 2011, 02:05 PM
Sorry if this has been covered in another thread but I did a search and couldn't find what I was after. I am testing a lay theory of laying field with the only loss occuring on the 2nd favourite. Can someone with a good database breakdown the stats of the 2nd favourite winning when compared to the favourite's price?

For example if the favourite's price range is <$2, $2-$3, $3-$4, >$4, etc, how often does the second favourite win? Also any stats on the price of the 2nd fav in those ranges to would be good for example if the fav is <$2 and the 2nd fav is $2-$3, $3-$4 or <$4 what are the stats etc.

If someone can provide this information I will share my findings with everyone, hopefully the system I am considering will have some legs. I feel that the key to this is in the staking used (assuming the percentages are right).

Cheers,

Mat.

beton
14th June 2011, 02:15 PM
Mattio This may help you.
It is the 2nd fav win odds in relation the the fav's odds.
Beton

Meeting (All)
Distance (All)
Track (All)
Horses In Race (All)

% Second Fav Winners Second Fav. Win Odds
Fav. Win Odds $2.00 to $3.00 $2.51 to $3.00 $3.01 to $3.50 $3.01 to $4.00 $4.01 to $4.50 $4.51 to $5.00 $5.01 to $5.50 $5.51 to $6.00 $6.01 to $6.50 $6.51 to $7.00 > $7.00 Grand Total
$1.00 to $1.99 46.67% 32.38% 30.94% 22.08% 19.39% 19.49% 15.10% 15.16% 11.36% 14.42% 9.07% 16.98%
$2.00 to $3.00 38.06% 32.28% 28.53% 23.93% 20.30% 18.25% 15.87% 13.32% 14.90% 11.33% 9.86% 20.60%
$2.51 to $3.00 27.94% 28.64% 24.23% 19.85% 17.95% 17.12% 16.07% 15.63% 11.33% 7.91% 21.57%
$3.01 to $3.50 24.55% 22.96% 18.32% 16.68% 15.76% 12.47% 11.64% 12.00% 13.64% 19.14%
$3.01 to $4.00 23.11% 18.99% 16.90% 16.56% 15.75% 13.88% 16.18% 6.90% 18.44%
$4.01 to $5.00 18.10% 18.04% 17.94% 13.64% 14.34% 10.99% 13.64% 17.06%
> $5 17.09% 15.28% 15.71% 11.46% 11.11% 15.02%
Grand Total 38.93% 30.53% 27.71% 23.45% 19.18% 17.73% 16.57% 14.40% 13.80% 12.48% 9.63% 19.33%

mattio
14th June 2011, 02:27 PM
Thanks Beton, I am having trouble deciphering what you wrote, are you able to put this into a spreadsheet and attach it so I can see more clearly what you mean?

Cheers,

Mat.

Bhagwan
14th June 2011, 03:18 PM
Tip:
Because ProPun use a program that automatically limits the space between words to one space , even though we may use 4 spaces to separate things , it will bunch everything up to just one space.

So

If we place a ---- or ...... between items , it will space things out nicely so things don't look bunched up .

mattio
14th June 2011, 03:19 PM
Thanks Bhagwan, I will copy the info and try your suggestion.

Cheers,

Mat.

mattio
14th June 2011, 03:35 PM
Ok, I still can't work it out, Beton would you mind putting it into a spreadsheet and dumbing it down a bit for me? Also I think that you may have missed the first column of favourite odds >$2?

Cheers,

Mat.

lomaca
14th June 2011, 03:40 PM
Mattio This may help you.
It is the 2nd fav win odds in relation the the fav's odds.
Beton

Meeting (All)
Distance (All)
Track (All)
Horses In Race (All)

% Second Fav Winners Second Fav. Win Odds
Fav. Win Odds $2.00 to $3.00 $2.51 to $3.00 $3.01 to $3.50 $3.01 to $4.00 $4.01 to $4.50 $4.51 to $5.00 $5.01 to $5.50 $5.51 to $6.00 $6.01 to $6.50 $6.51 to $7.00 > $7.00 Grand Total
$1.00 to $1.99 46.67% 32.38% 30.94% 22.08% 19.39% 19.49% 15.10% 15.16% 11.36% 14.42% 9.07% 16.98%
$2.00 to $3.00 38.06% 32.28% 28.53% 23.93% 20.30% 18.25% 15.87% 13.32% 14.90% 11.33% 9.86% 20.60%
$2.51 to $3.00 27.94% 28.64% 24.23% 19.85% 17.95% 17.12% 16.07% 15.63% 11.33% 7.91% 21.57%
$3.01 to $3.50 24.55% 22.96% 18.32% 16.68% 15.76% 12.47% 11.64% 12.00% 13.64% 19.14%
$3.01 to $4.00 23.11% 18.99% 16.90% 16.56% 15.75% 13.88% 16.18% 6.90% 18.44%
$4.01 to $5.00 18.10% 18.04% 17.94% 13.64% 14.34% 10.99% 13.64% 17.06%
> $5 17.09% 15.28% 15.71% 11.46% 11.11% 15.02%
Grand Total 38.93% 30.53% 27.71% 23.45% 19.18% 17.73% 16.57% 14.40% 13.80% 12.48% 9.63% 19.33%
% Second Fav Winners Second Fav. Win Odds
Fav. Win Odds $2.00 to $3.00 $2.51 to $3.00 $3.01 to $3.50 $3.01 to $4.00 $4.01 to $4.50 $4.51 to $5.00 $5.01 to $5.50 $5.51 to $6.00 $6.01 to $6.50 $6.51 to $7.00 > $7.00 Grand Total
$1.00 to $1.99 46.67% 32.38% 30.94% 22.08% 19.39% 19.49% 15.10% 15.16% 11.36% 14.42% 9.07% 16.98%
$2.00 to $3.00 38.06% 32.28% 28.53% 23.93% 20.30% 18.25% 15.87% 13.32% 14.90% 11.33% 9.86% 20.60%
$2.51 to $3.00 27.94% 28.64% 24.23% 19.85% 17.95% 17.12% 16.07% 15.63% 11.33% 7.91% 21.57%
$3.01 to $3.50 24.55% 22.96% 18.32% 16.68% 15.76% 12.47% 11.64% 12.00% 13.64% 19.14%
$3.01 to $4.00 23.11% 18.99% 16.90% 16.56% 15.75% 13.88% 16.18% 6.90% 18.44%
$4.01 to $5.00 18.10% 18.04% 17.94% 13.64% 14.34% 10.99% 13.64% 17.06%
> $5 17.09% 15.28% 15.71% 11.46% 11.11% 15.02%
Grand Total 38.93% 30.53% 27.71% 23.45% 19.18% 17.73% 16.57% 14.40% 13.80% 12.48% 9.63% 19.33%


Is this any better?
Not really, Oh well

beton
14th June 2011, 04:01 PM
Lomaca Hi
better than I could do but I have only just learnt how to identify a computor.
Mattio the dumbed down version emailed to you. That was a boon because I found out that I could do something else which is why you get more info.
I would be interested in the results.
Beton

mattio
14th June 2011, 04:22 PM
beton/lomaca,

Thanks for the help guys, I will post up my findings once I have run a few scenarios.

Cheers,

Mat.