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moeee
2nd July 2011, 01:17 PM
RACE 6

2 NO JUSTICE $4.5
3 ECHELON $6.5
1 PEDRO'S FINEST $7
7 BLING IT ON $7.5
4 MIDNIGHT ECLIPSE $9
8 MCDOOM $9.5
6 ROBERT ANDREW $12
5 PHIL LE CHEF $20

As Open as they get.
Do you still bet?
I know I will , just don't know what as yet.
Probably something to do with #2 No Justice , because it will be up there for a long way.

moeee
2nd July 2011, 02:13 PM
RACE 8

4 AMAKLER GIRL $4.2
5 HUTMAKER $4.6
3 SMOKE HOME $5.7
1 TONNELI BALE $6
7 ALLEN LENNOX $10
2 SHIRAZ POINT $20
8 IN HIDING $25
6 MAMIE BALE $50

My reputation as a judge is tested here with the Red Runner.
I really can't see it running down these speedy animals.

woof43
2nd July 2011, 03:41 PM
1 5.226
2 5.202
3 5.264
4 5.204
5 5.302
6 5.149
7 5.131
8 5.159
To me the #8 is poor value at the fixed odds, its worst two runs have been from wide off the track, it has only won when its been 1-2 at the first turn.
Has raced much better when light in the weights.
The leading bunch could be in two groups, 2,3,4 - 6,7,8 I'm leaning to the 2,6,3 as leading and the winning chances.

moeee
2nd July 2011, 04:05 PM
Woof43.
How do you decide how much money to invest in a Race?

I'm not betting in the first 3 Races.
That leaves 8 Races.
My study methods leave me with a Market framed and my wagers are based on that Market.

Should I be betting a larger amount when I find a Large Overlay.
Or should I bet a larger amount depending on how confident I am about the accuracy of My Market.

Or do I need to keep records of my Markets and then back test on what sort of Wagers would have been most profitable , and try to find some sort of pattern regarding race distances , tracks and Grade?

I find the researching incredibly tedious and boring.
Maybe I don't want to know what I may find :(

woof43
2nd July 2011, 04:17 PM
1 5.194
2 5.137
3 5.203
4 5.188
5 5.142
6 5.226
10 5.204
8 5.207
#5 to me looks like getting a nice run early, and possibly leading , the other 4 dogs inside of it need to be 1 at the first turn to win, leaves the #6 with the best 2nd sectionals looking a very good chance of finding some luck. #2 is the better of the inside 4 dogs, and has run well of the inside so its got to be included in any wagering mix, but it's not great value.

woof43
2nd July 2011, 04:22 PM
Woof43.
How do you decide how much money to invest in a Race?

I'm not betting in the first 3 Races.
That leaves 8 Races.
My study methods leave me with a Market framed and my wagers are based on that Market.

Should I be betting a larger amount when I find a Large Overlay.
Or should I bet a larger amount depending on how confident I am about the accuracy of My Market.

Or do I need to keep records of my Markets and then back test on what sort of Wagers would have been most profitable , and try to find some sort of pattern regarding race distances , tracks and Grade?

I find the researching incredibly tedious and boring.
Maybe I don't want to know what I may find :(
Basically you need to find your edge for each runner that you identify as a winning chance, then using that edge you can compute your average the Optimum % for those identified runners and you will have a basic threshold it will need to be over, say 10% for the total avg optimum % if this criteria is not met you may leave that wager type alone, and move to the next wager type.

woof43
2nd July 2011, 04:27 PM
Woof43.

Or do I need to keep records of my Markets and then back test on what sort of Wagers would have been most profitable , and try to find some sort of pattern regarding race distances , tracks and Grade?



you need to classify races based on how the Favourite became the public favourite, then you'll understand Joe Public because they will play that type of favourite over and over again and thats when you can doing some wagering analysis .

Never group races by grade, track etc unless you have classified the favourite first

moeee
2nd July 2011, 04:49 PM
Why do I keep asking you questions that I don't want to know the answer to? :(

How are you Woof43?
The wife - kids?
You travelling okay lately? - I am.

Good Luck tonight if your having a splash.

woof43
2nd July 2011, 05:03 PM
1 5.097
2 5.107
3 5.183
4 5.175
5 5.158
6 5.158
7 5.121
8 5.149
#8 is the outstanding dog of this field,its has run some outstanding 2nd sectionals, but! this is a race where there is so much early speed its going to be a real challenge, for it to get into a competitive position, its only hope is the #1 tangles with the #2 as it tries to move off the rails

woof43
2nd July 2011, 05:04 PM
Why do I keep asking you questions that I don't want to know the answer to? :(

How are you Woof43?
The wife - kids?
You travelling okay lately? - I am.

Good Luck tonight if your having a splash.

you don't remember that's why you keep asking, its that gold fish thing.

moeee
2nd July 2011, 05:04 PM
Race 9

3 BUDDY ROX $4.9
1 REV LIMITER $5.5
4 RYKER BALE $6
5 STANFORD BALE $6.6
7 MUNGO MAN $8.2
2 GALAXY HIGH $12
6 DIGITIZE $15
8 LIMBURG GOLD $33

#1 Rev Limiter carried much excess baggage at its 2 runs from a spell.
I will be interested in its weight tonight.
A bit of a dip and I'll be having a bit of a dip.

moeee
2nd July 2011, 05:50 PM
Race 4

1 KATSIDIS $3.2
8 WITCH HUNT $4.3
2 EXCEL TO FLY $5.2
3 DYNA BROWNLOW $12
7 SISCO DIAMOND $14
4 LEKTRA GRANDE $16
5 DYNA DEARY $25
6 LEVER FOOTPRINT $33

I love your summary for this Race Woof43.
I hate the available Fixed Odds though.

Might rove Dyna Brownlow with the other 3 in the Exotics.

woof43
2nd July 2011, 05:56 PM
1 5.162
2 5.184
3 5.137
4 5.167
5 5.151
6 5.180
7 5.201
8 5.206
I don't like the #1 Moee, but if its any consolation there are only 3 dogs that you might consider inform or race fit.
its very close at the start with #4 having an edge over the #3.
I'm tipping the #7 improves a mile with a clean start, 2nd last run its run a best of the night time, so given space

moeee
2nd July 2011, 06:06 PM
Race 9

3 5.137
4 5.167

its very close at the start with #4 having an edge over the #3.


Why bother posting the numbers if they are misleading?
Perhaps just your summary is best for the members.

EDIT:
Actually , #3 Buddy Rox has as much chance of leading this Field as I do , and I'm staying home tonight.

moeee
2nd July 2011, 06:28 PM
Woof43

Do you think there is any point in taking an interest in the new novelty wagering event called the Box Challenge?

lomaca
2nd July 2011, 06:33 PM
Actually , #3 Buddy Rox has as much chance of leading this Field as I do , and I'm staying home tonight.Agreed about No 3 can't see for the life of me, how it has any chance at all?

No 5 Stanford Bale will win.

If wrong? so what?
Cheers

moeee
2nd July 2011, 06:44 PM
No 5 Stanford Bale will win.

If wrong? so what?



If wrong, perhaps try to find a reason for being wrong.
Thats a good way to learn.
But I don't do that , because I'm STOOPID :(

AND LAZY!!!

woof43
2nd July 2011, 06:53 PM
If wrong, perhaps try to find a reason for being wrong.
Thats a good way to learn.
But I don't do that , because I'm STOOPID :(

AND LAZY!!!

The #5 has had 9 starts since its spell, and it's performances are different prior to the spell, as I posted previously its about finding a dog in this race that is racing inform.

moeee
2nd July 2011, 07:03 PM
RACE 5

1 DINO FERRARI $3.6
7 DYNA MORRIS $4
3 WHITE KNUCKLES $9
5 TANIA TWO SHOES $10
4 MISS STACKHOUSE $11
2 AVERY BALE $12
6 OKIE BALE $14
8 ELLA PATCHE $30

Looks a good Quinella Race.
Probably wouldn't hurt to box the top 3 in a Trifecta for half a Unit either.

woof43
2nd July 2011, 08:21 PM
RACE 8

4 AMAKLER GIRL $4.2
5 HUTMAKER $4.6
3 SMOKE HOME $5.7
1 TONNELI BALE $6
7 ALLEN LENNOX $10
2 SHIRAZ POINT $20
8 IN HIDING $25
6 MAMIE BALE $50

My reputation as a judge is tested here with the Red Runner.
I really can't see it running down these speedy animals.

1 5.192
2 5.141
3 5.139
4 5.060
5 5.100
6 5.186
7 5.137
8 5.108
yes the further est back its won from at the first turn is 4th, don't think it will get that close.
4,5 & 8 will be hard to beat

moeee
2nd July 2011, 08:29 PM
Race 8

4,5 & 8 will be hard to beat

The Race is almost a replay of a recent race and the Pink couldn't cross and failed badly.
I expect same.

moeee
2nd July 2011, 08:34 PM
Woof43

Do you play Flexi4 on Greyhounds?

And if you do , are they in addition to the Trifecta in the same race or instead of?

woof43
2nd July 2011, 08:37 PM
Woof43

Do you play Flexi4 on Greyhounds?

And if you do , are they in addition to the Trifecta in the same race or instead of?
I play just about every wager type on the races I wager

moeee
2nd July 2011, 08:41 PM
Do you monitor your results in the different wagers and find you are most profitable in a certain type of wager?

woof43
2nd July 2011, 09:44 PM
Box 1st Split Rating Rank
1 $4.93 3
2 $6.11 4
scr FALSE
4 $4.48 2
5 $17.30 6
6 $8.83 5
7 $4.18 1
scr FALSE
close race this one, #7 just might not stick the distance, and its got a couple of proven finishers in this, for mine its #4 or #1
big query the #2 and its way down in class

moeee
2nd July 2011, 09:57 PM
I managed to snag a small percentage of the small First4 in the last.
Got a collect or 2 , plus I messed up a few times to end up slightly in front for the night.

I can't recall whether I lost last night or on Thursday night , but I know I'm sitting just $4 below my highest peak , and that can only be a good thing.

I'm off to check the Fields for tomorrow.

Cheers.

moeee
3rd July 2011, 10:51 AM
RACE 8

4 AMAKLER GIRL $4.2
5 HUTMAKER $4.6
3 SMOKE HOME $5.7
1 TONNELI BALE $6
7 ALLEN LENNOX $10
2 SHIRAZ POINT $20
8 IN HIDING $25
6 MAMIE BALE $50

My reputation as a judge is tested here with the Red Runner.
I really can't see it running down these speedy animals.

What can I say?

So shoot me :(