Neural Top Raters and Track Win %

[Stix]

Hi All

Going to go to the well one more time and see if you wonderful helpful members may be able to help me...

Does anyone have stats on the Win Strike Rate for the top Rater for QLD, VIC, NSW, VIC, TAS tracks?

From my 15 mths, the following tracks have proven to be the most reliable for top raters (and also 100 pt Unitab rater).

"Albury", "Armidale", "Balaklava", "Ballarat", "Bordertown", "Casino", "Casterton", "Cessnock", "Corowa", "Cranbourne", "Darwin", "Dubbo", "Eagle Farm", "Geraldton", "Goulburn", "Ipswich", "Kyneton", "Launceston", "Lismore", "Mackay", "Moe", "Morphettville", "Newcastle", "Orange", "Pinjarra", "Pt Lincoln", "Queanbeyan", "Rockhampton", "Sandown", "Scone", "Seymour", "Stawell", "Strathalbyn", "Sunshine Coast", "Swan Hill", "Tatura", "Waganratta", "Werribee"

These typically run at >31% strikerate


The following are amongst the worst....



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border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Canterbury</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Tamworth</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Rosehill</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Wagga</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Coffs Harbour</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Sapphire Coast</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Randwick</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Canberra</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Moe</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Taree</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Kembla Grange</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Mornington</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Warrnambool</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Caulfield</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Gold Coast</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Wodonga</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Nowra</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Doomben</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Moonee Valley</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Geraldton</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Mt Gambier</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Gawler</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Townsville</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Kyneton</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Moruya</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Warwick Farm</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Toowoomba</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Echuca</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Mackay</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Geelong</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Gundagai</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: black; height: 15pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl63" height="20">Bairnsdale</td> </tr></tbody></table>Can anyone confirm my "more reliable" tracks over a longer period, or suggest others that have also performed well over a longer period - Please and Thank You in advance

[Stix]

Geez just cos I TOU'd crash, you guys won't talk to me anymore..... :rolleyes:

I think I've contributed over the past 6 or 7 years...with System tests, providing system filters that work and (IMHO) helpful stats, but no love back...ah well all the best to you all, time to move on...

[moeee]

You don't need to confine your request to only this Forum.
There are also some mighty fine members at other Forums.

I love you Stix , but I have no knowledge of horsey stuff.
You got any Greyhound Questions?
I appear to be the Greyhound Exxpert here , apart from one other member - WOOF43.

[UselessBettor]

Stix,

I am a new member here. But I need to know a couple of things.

What is a top rater to you ? Default settings ?

Do you want me to post the info here ?

[Stix]

Feel the love..thanks Moeee and Useless :D

A Top rater = Neural settings all set to 3 except TIM, JA, TA, WET, CRS all = 0

if you could please email me at stix _ propun at aanet dot com dot au would be very much appreciated.

I can provide some data/filter info that maybe of use in you own neural methods.

Thanks again.

[Bhagwan]

As a general stat , for those who may like to know .

Neural top rater SR is approx 20% on std setting.
2nd sel is approx 15%

Total 35%SR, top 2 Neural selections.

This is approx the same SR as the average tipster.
The difference is the odd big payers.

That's an average of 3 winners in every 8 races, targeting their top 2 selections

Their top 2 sometimes through up the odd, big paying result.

Its a strong idea to look at the Top 2 selections when testing any of the various Neural settings.

If you have a method that has say a 75% success rate of separating 2 horses one would do very well .
e.g. 35%SR top 2 x 75% successful separation process = 26% SR

Do that & you laughing like a Hyena.

[UselessBettor]

Stix,

I have been busy. I'll get you the info soon.

[Stix]

Stix,

I have been busy. I'll get you the info soon.Understand, much appreciated..!!

[UselessBettor]

Stix,

Couldn't get the email through for some reason. I suspect something with my email client.

If you want anymore information you can contact me at betfinder at exemail dot com dot au

Here are the stats for every Track by strike rate for top neural selection. It has a requirement that there were at least 30 selections at the track. This reduces the records returned which might be insignificant becasue they had 3 winners from only 8 selections.

Orange 35.4839
Darwin 30.5455
Lismore 28.0702
Moruya 27.5
Mount Gambier 27.4194
Betfair Park Sandown Hillside 27.2109
Queanbeyan 27.1845
Tatura 27.027
Dubbo 26.6667
Terang 26.4706
Wellington 26.3158
Launceston 26
Bathurst 25.2747
Rockhampton 25.2708
Sunshine Coast 25.1397
Wodonga 25
Broome 25
Bendigo 25
Gold Coast 24.8918
Warrnambool 24.8485
Seymour 24.8485
Sapphire Coast 24.5283
Hobart 24.0741
Goulburn 23.7762
Alice Springs 23.7624
Hobart Inside Track 23.7288
Gundagai 23.5294
Moe 23.2143
Echuca 23.2143
Ascot 23.0321
Toowoomba Cushion Track 22.9258
Caulfield 22.7679
Taree 22.5989
Eagle Farm 22.5888
Hamilton 22.2222
NMIT Kyneton Park 21.9178
Albury 21.8182
Canterbury 21.7899
Geelong Synthetic 21.547
Port Augusta 21.519
Pinjarra 21.5054
Strathalbyn 21.374
Mackay 21.3198
Scone 21.2963
Morphettville 21.2766
Wyong 21.25
Bunbury 21.118
Swan Hill 21.1009
Devonport 21.0526
Morphettville Parks 20.8178
Flemington 20.8122
Kembla Grange 20.7627
Moonee Valley 20.7317
Cranbourne 20.6704
Betfair Park Sandown Lakeside 20.3125
Warwick Farm 20.2312
Hawkesbury 20.1005
Rosehill 20.0772
Allan Scott Park Morphettville 20.0717
Narromine 20
Randwick 19.883
Northam 19.8198
Canberra 19.6721
Newcastle 19.4853
Doomben 19.4805
Ipswich 19.4529
Bairnsdale 19.403
Mornington 19.3333
Kensington 19.084
Balaklava 19.0476
Townsville 18.7311
Coffs Harbour 18.5841
Sunshine Coast Cushion Track 18.543
Albany 18.4466
Muswellbrook 18.4397
Canberra Acton 18.3486
Port Lincoln 18.2609
Ballarat 17.9592
Pakenham 17.9104
Port Hedland 17.6471
Cowra 17.5
Gawler 17.4825
Sale 17.3267
Belmont 17.0124
Naracoorte 16.9014
Port Macquarie 16.8605
NMIT Ararat Park 16.6667
Mount Barker 16.2162
Wagga 16.1677
Geraldton 16.0839
Wangaratta 15.7407
Gosford 15.3846
Kalgoorlie 15.2542
Armidale 15.1899
Murray Bridge 15.1515
Nowra 15.0943
Casino 15
Cessnock 14.9425
Quirindi 14.8936
Grafton 14.6789
Geelong 14.6667
Mildura 14.5161
Gunnedah 14.2857
Cairns 13.7255
Oakbank 13.3333
Ballina 13.3333
Penola 13.2075
York 12.1212
Narrogin 12.1212
Tamworth 11.4094
Kilmore 9.0909
Murwillumbah 8.9552
Mudgee 8.1633


These are just top Neural raters.

[UselessBettor]

I just re-read your post and thought you might also want unitab top rater + neural top rater statistics. Here are the tracks. Same as before must have at least 30 selections:

Goulburn 38
Darwin 37.8378
Dubbo 36.6667
Rockhampton 36.036
Bendigo 35.5932
Scone 35.1351
Launceston 34.8214
Pinjarra 34.6667
Betfair Park Sandown Lakeside 34.5455
Geelong Synthetic 34.4
Seymour 33.9286
Warrnambool 33.3333
Cranbourne 33.3333
Betfair Park Sandown Hillside 33.3333
Caulfield 32.9545
Morphettville Parks 32.7273
Toowoomba Cushion Track 32.6797
Balaklava 32.3529
Ascot 32.2581
Sunshine Coast 31.9149
Newcastle 31.3131
Canberra 30.7692
Mornington 30.6452
Sunshine Coast Cushion Track 30.303
Swan Hill 29.7297
Wangaratta 29.4118
Eagle Farm 29.1667
Doomben 28.9474
Townsville 28.9256
Bunbury 28.7671
Taree 28.5714
Coffs Harbour 28.125
Allan Scott Park Morphettville 28.0374
Strathalbyn 27.907
Pakenham 27.907
Alice Springs 27.7778
Canterbury 27.5862
Echuca 27.5
Gold Coast 26.7442
Rosehill 26.4151
Muswellbrook 26.3158
Albury 26.1905
Wyong 25.4237
Port Augusta 25
Mackay 25
Kembla Grange 25
Flemington 24.7059
Ipswich 24.6154
Gosford 24.4444
Warwick Farm 23.8806
Albany 23.0769
Belmont 23.0263
Ballarat 22.8916
Hawkesbury 22.8571
Wagga 22.4138
Port Macquarie 22.4138
Bathurst 22.2222
Hobart 22.1154
Northam 22.093
Port Lincoln 21.9512
Kensington 21.5686
Moonee Valley 21.3592
Kalgoorlie 21.2121
Randwick 20.2899
Nowra 20
Ballina 20
Gawler 19.6429
Geraldton 19.6078
Grafton 19.1176
Murray Bridge 17.7778
Sale 17.3913
Tamworth 14.2857

[Stix]

Thanks very much UB, there are some interesting tracks near the top - like Geelong - that don't figure well in my stats.

Again, thanks very much, much appreciated. Let me look them over and I'll come back to you.