1 Nov – G1 Melbourne Cup – 3200m

[Sands]

First Declarations

Order-of-entry Horse Trainer Weight
1 Jukebox Jury (Ire) (Mark Johnston) 57.0
2 Americain (USA) (Alain De Royer Dupre) 58.0
3 Descarado (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse) 56.0
4 Lion Tamer (NZ) (Murray And Bjorn Baker) 54.0
5 Shamrocker (NZ) (Danny O'brien) 52.0
6 Midas Touch (GB) (Robert Hickmott) 55.0
7 My Kingdom Of Fife (GB) (Chris Waller) 55.0
8 Mighty High (Fr) (John Moore) 54.5
9 Absolutely (NZ) (Michael Kent) 51.5
10 Dreamaway (Dean Binnaise) 51.0
11 Manighar (Fr) (Luca Cumani) 54.0
12 Glass Harmonium (Ire) (Michael Moroney) 54.0
13 Unusual Suspect (USA) (Michael Kent) 54.0
14 Drunken Sailor (Ire) (Luca Cumani) 54.0
15 Dunaden (Fr) (Mikel Delzangles) 54.0
16 Linton (Robert Hickmott) 53.5
17 Precedence (NZ) (Bart Cummings) 53.5
18 Mourayan (Ire) (Robert Hickmott) 53.5
19 Alcopop (Jake Stephens) 53.5
20 Herculian Prince (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse) 53.5
21 Red Cadeaux (GB) (Ed Dunlop) 53.5
22 Fox Hunt (Ire) (Mark Johnston) 53.5
23 Lucas Cranach (Ger) (Anthony Freedman) 53.5
24 Hawk Island (GB) (Chris Waller) 53.0
25 Pinker Pinker (Greg Eurell) 50.0
26 Illustrious Blue (GB) (Chris Waller) 53.0
27 Lost In The Moment (IRE) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 53.0
28 Illo (Ger) (Bart Cummings) 53.0
29 Modun (IRE) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 53.0
30 At First Sight (Ire) (Robert Hickmott) 52.5
31 Stand To Gain (Ire) (Chris Waller) 52.5
32 Booming (NZ) (Jeff Lynds) 52.5
33 Older Than Time (Gai Waterhouse) 51.0
34 Tactic (GB) (David Hayes) 52.5
35 Sahara Sun (Chi) (Luca Cumani) 51.0
36 The Verminator (Chris Waller) 52.0
37 December Draw (Ire) (Mark Kavanagh) 52.0
38 Praecido (NZ) (David Payne) 50.5
39 Master O'reilly (NZ) (Judy Mawer) 52.0
40 Tullamore (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse) 52.0
41 Moyenne Corniche (GB) (Brian Ellison) 52.0
42 Saptapadi (Ire) (Brian Ellison) 52.0
43 Exceptionally (NZ) (T And K O'Sullivan) 50.0
44 Ironstein (Gerald Ryan) 51.0
45 Lamasery (David Vandyke) 51.0
46 Niwot (Team Hawkes) 51.0
47 Above Average (Ire) (Anthony Freedman) 51.0
48 Hissing Sid (Bill And Symon Wilde) 51.0
49 Spechenka (Ben Ahrens) 50.5
50 Showcause (Frank Ritchie) 50.5
51 Macedonian (NZ) (Peter Moody) 50.5
52 Green Moon (Ire) (Robert Hickmott) 50.5
53 Rebel Soldier (Ire) (David Hayes) 50.5
54 I'm Jake (NZ) (David Brideoake) 50.0
55 My Scotsgrey (NZ) (Shaun Ritchie) 50.0
56 Lalla Rookh (Macdonald And Gluyas) 50.0
57 Anudjawun (NZ) (Shaun Dwyer) 50.0
58 Red Eye Special (NZ) (Anthony Cummings) 50.0
59 Hume (NZ) (Brian Smith) 50.0
60 Two For Tea (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse) 50.0
61 Lights Of Heaven (Peter Moody) 51.5
62 Bauer (Ire) (Luca Cumani) 52.0
63 Raffaello (Patrick Ryan) 50.5
64 Lucky Eighty Eight (Ellerton And Zahra) 50.0
65 Midnight Martini (Mark Kavanagh) 50.0
66 Tanby (Robert Hickmott) 50.0
67 Lopov (NZ) (Danny O'brien) 50.0
68 Ishant (Peter Moody) 50.0
69 Galizani (John Thompson) 50.0
70 Shewan (Robert Smerdon) 50.0
71 Reprisal (David Hayes) 50.0
72 Diyaraka (Fr) (Michael Moroney) 50.0
73 Back In Black (NZ) (John Steffert) 50.0
74 Reuben Percival (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse) 50.0
75 Cosmonaut (Bart Cummings) 50.0
76 Sunset Café (Leon Corstens) 50.0
77 King Gladiator (Chris Waller) 50.0
78 Western Symbol (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse) 50.0
79 Pegembak (Bart Cummings) 50.0

[Sands]

Most of the early money has been plonked on the following internationals:
Americain $17 into $12
Lucas Cranach $101 into $12
At First Sight $81 into $16
Jukebox Jury $31 into $25
Drunken Sailor $51 into $31

[jimbob]

huge go on lucas 100 into 12 wow
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[Sands]

Shewan, winner of the Herbert Power Stakes has been penalised 1.5kg for that win
Cup weight is now 51.5kg

[Sportz]

Are there actually going to be any Australian horses in the field this year??? :eek:

[jake]

..yeah..its starting to get that way..lol
..14 internationally-trained still in the mix..8 of those already assured of a start..

[kiwiz]

These horses have all firmed since the Caulfield Cup
Green Moon
Tullamore
Lucas Cranach
Manighar
Drunken Sailor

Green Moon is the biggest firmer

[Kanga]

These horses have all firmed since the Caulfield Cup
Green Moon
Tullamore
Lucas Cranach
Manighar
Drunken Sailor

Green Moon is the biggest firmer
G'day fellas, hope all is well. Just popping in as I normally do this time of year. All is in readiness for the annual trip south for the carnival.

Kiwi, I loved Unusual Suspects run on Saturday. It seems to be cruising along underneath the radar. 4th in the Dato to Rekindled, Alco and WBY, lugged a load in the Cranbourne Cup no doubt chasing the $1 mill bonus and was 14th at the 400 on Saturday before threading the needle for a closing 6th in the CC. Currently $31 on fixed. What was it paying before the CC?

[Matilda]

I am with you on Unusual Suspect!!!...Was 100+...

[Kanga]

I am with you on Unusual Suspect!!!...Was 100+...
Go ya halves mate? http://www.racehorsetalk.com.au/index.php?topic=15233.0;topicseen

Lol, I wish.

[kiwiz]

Liked the Caulfield Cup runs (Melbourne Cup perspective) Lucas Cranach, Unusual Suspect & Green Moon

[Rogan Josh]

Yeah, biggest street-corner tip since the CC has been Unusual Suspect. 3rd-last on the turn, rattled home. Was supposed to be ridden more forward but didn't have enough zip early. Nothing wrong with the runs of Manighar & Drunken Sailor either. Both looking much better this visit.

[nags2riches]

Big win by Dunaden in the Geelong Cup. It makes me a bit more confident with my Melbourne Cup selection now. I've already taken Jukebox Jury which left Dunaden in his wake at his last start in France. Also another great run by Bauer.

[Kanga]

Go ya halves mate? http://www.racehorsetalk.com.au/index.php?topic=15233.0;topicseen

Lol, I wish.
Hmm, they've taken the article down. Was about 40% of Unusual Suspect being up for an urgent sale. $300,000 by Friday 5 PM. I'm a tad short though...

[Kanga]

Also another great run by Bauer.
Wasn't it just..flew home but gave em too much start

[xanadu]

Yeah Kanga,
It certainly was and remains under surveillance as will the winner.....can another French horse grab the Cup........only time will tell.......?!

Cheers.

[darkydog2002]

Lucas Cranach Has a crack in the Heel (See review @justracing)

Cheers
darky

[Rogan Josh]

Both Dunaden & Americain were super impressive, the French Connection is gonna be hard to beat!

[rabbitz]

These Godolphin runners look ok BUT i don't like backing them without a run...particularly LOST IN THE MOMENT 53kg great run in Goodwood cup

[Sands]

Horse Trainer Weight Order-of-Entry
Americain A. de Royer Dupre 58 2
Jukebox Jury M. Johnston 57 1
Midas Touch R. Hickmott 55 4
Dunaden M. Delzangles 54.5 5
Manighar L. Cumani 54 6
Glass Harmonium M. Moroney 54 7
Unusual Suspect M. Kent 54 8
Drunken Sailor L. Cumani 54 9
Linton R. Hickmott 53.5 10
Precedence B. Cummings 53.5 11
Mourayan R. Hickmott 53.5 12
Lucas Cranach A. Freedman 53.5 13
Red Cadeaux E. Dunlop 53.5 14
Fox Hunt M. Johnston 53.5 15
Hawk Island C. Waller 53.5 16
Lost In The Moment S. Bin Suroor 53 17
Illo B. Cummings 53 18
Modun S. Bin Suroor 53 19
At First Sight R. Hickmott 52.5 20
Tactic D. Hayes 52.5 23
Booming J. Lynds 52.5 21
Shamrocker D. O'Brien 52 3
Tullamore G. Waterhouse 52 25
The Verminator C. Waller 52 26
Moyenne Corniche B. Ellison 52 27
Saptapadi B. Ellison 52 28
Bauer L. Cumani 52 29
Shewan R. Smerdon 51.5 30
Older Than Time G. Waterhouse 51 22
Sahara Sun L. Cumani 51 24
Ironstein G. Ryan 51 31
Lamasery D. Vandyke 51 32
Niwot Team Hawkes 51 33
Green Moon R. Hickmott 50.5 34
Spechenka B. Ahrens 50.5 35
Showcause F. Ritchie 50.5 36
Macedonian P. Moody 50.5 37
Raffaello P. Ryan 50.5 42
Tanby R. Hickmott 50 38
Galizani J. Thompson 50 39
Anudjawan S. Dwyer 50 40
Two For Tea G. Waterhouse 50 41
Midnight Martini M. Kavanagh 50 43
Cosmonaut B. Cummings 50 44
Reprisal D. Hayes 50 45
Back In Black J. Steffer 50 46
Western Symbol G. Waterhouse 50 47

[Kanga]

Williams (Dunaden) and Rawiller (Unusual Suspect) suspended after causing interference in seperate races at Bendigo today. OK to ride on Derby Day with appeals to be heard on Monday, assuming they appeal :)

[Matilda]

Williams (Dunaden) to win all big 3?

[jake]

..bendigo cup winner tanby 1kg penalty..moves from 38 to 32nd place in the order of entry..

[Sands]

No Cup penalty for Niwot

[Sands]

No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 Americain (USA) Alain de Royer Dupre Gerald Mosse 15 58kg
2 Jukebox Jury (Ire) Mark Johnston Neil Callan 6 57kg
3 Dunaden (Fr) Mikel Delzangles Craig Williams or Chrisophe Lemaire 13 54.5kg
4 Drunken Sailor (Ire) Luca Cumani Dwayne Dunn 8 54kg
5 Glass Harmonium (Ire) Michael Moroney Lisa Cropp 23 54kg
6 Manighar (Fr) Luca Cumani Damien Oliver 21 54kg
7 Unusual Suspect (USA) Michael Kent Nash Rawiller or unknown 7 54kg
8 Fox Hunt (Ire) Mark Johnston Silvestre de Sousa 19 53.5kg
9 Lucas Cranach (Ger) Anthony Freedman Corey Brown 11 53.5kg
10 Mourayan (Ire) Robert Hickmott Hugh Bowman 14 53.5kg
11 Precedence (NZ) Bart Cummings Darren Beadman 2 53.5kg
12 Red Cadeaux (GB) Ed Dunlop Michael Rodd 16 53.5kg
13 Hawk Island (Ire) Chris Waller Glyn Schofield 18 53kg
14 Illo (Ger) Bart Cummings Jim Cassidy 1 53kg
15 Lost In The Moment (Ire) Saeed Bin Suroor William Buick 3 53kg
16 Modun (Ire) Saeed Bin Suroor Kerrin McEvoy 5 53kg
17 At First Sight (Ire) Robert Hickmott Steven King 10 52.5kg
18 Moyenne Corniche (GB) Brian Ellison Brett Prebble 17 52kg
19 Saptapadi (Ire) Brian Ellison Chris Symons 22 52kg
20 Shamrocker (NZ) Danny O'Brien Luke Nolen 24 52kg
21 The Verminator Chris Waller Craig Newitt 4 52kg
22 Tullamore (NZ) Gai Waterhouse Chris Munce 12 52kg
23 Niwot Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Dean Yendall 9 51kg
24 Older Than Time Gai Waterhouse Tim Clark 20 51kg

[Sands]

Horse Win Place
Americain 4.20 1.80
Dunaden 8.00 2.75
Lucas Cranach 11.00 3.50
Jukebox Jury 11.00 3.50
At First Sight 15.00 4.50
Niwot 17.00 5.00
Mourayan 17.00 5.00
Illo 21.00 6.00
Moyenne Corniche 26.00 7.25
Tullamore 26.00 7.25
Fox Hunt 26.00 7.25
Modun 26.00 7.25
Lost In The Moment 35.00 9.50
Drunken Sailor 35.00 9.50
Unusual Suspect 35.00 9.50
Manighar 35.00 9.50
Glass Harmonium 35.00 9.50
Red Cadeaux 35.00 9.50
Precedence 35.00 9.50
Shamrocker 51.00 13.50
Hawk Island 51.00 13.50
Saptapadi 101.00 26.00
Older Than Time 101.00 26.00
The Verminator 101.00 26.00

[Rogan Josh]

Spot the Aussie lol

[Sands]

If you fancy the fav Americain in this race then I would suggest a saver on Tullamore would be in order
3rd in the Caulfield Cup & then 2nd behind Americain in the Moonee Valley Cup
Meets Americain much better at the weights & currently nice ew odds

[kiwiz]

Big firmer Niwot
Very impressive in the the Lexus

[Shaun]

No Name Pre-Post Rated Price
20 Shamrocker 21.00 4.17
23 Niwot 11.00 4.17
2 Jukebox Jury 8.00 4.69
1 Americain 4.00 6.06
9 Lucas Cranach 7.00 7.01
5 Glass Harmonium 17.00 15.41
16 Modun 21.00 15.41
3 Dunaden 7.00 18.39
10 Mourayan 9.00 22.46
14 Illo 17.00 28.26
17 At First Sight 9.00 28.26
22 Tullamore 15.00 28.26
19 Saptapadi 51.00 37.14
24 Older Than Time 51.00 37.14
6 Manighar 26.00 50.00
12 Red Cadeaux 21.00 50.00
15 Lost In The Moment 26.00 50.00
18 Moyenne Corniche 21.00 50.00
13 Hawk Island 51.00 52.20
8 Fox Hunt 17.00 82.77
11 Precedence 26.00 82.77
21 The Verminator 51.00 82.77
4 Drunken Sailor 26.00 175.58
7 Unusual Suspect 21.00 175.58



I will re-assess the market if a scratching or track conditions are slow or worse.

[Shaun]

Market Re-assessed with changing PPP

23 Niwot 3.40
20 Shamrocker 4.21
2 Jukebox Jury 5.37
1 Americain 6.14
3 Dunaden 8.36
5 Glass Harmonium 15.54
9 Lucas Cranach 15.54
16 Modun 15.54
10 Mourayan 22.74
14 Illo 28.69
22 Tullamore 28.69
17 At First Sight 37.80
19 Saptapadi 37.80
24 Older Than Time 37.80
6 Manighar 50.00
12 Red Cadeaux 50.00
15 Lost In The Moment 50.00
18 Moyenne Corniche 50.00
13 Hawk Island 53.28
8 Fox Hunt 84.76
11 Precedence 84.76
21 The Verminator 84.76
4 Drunken Sailor 180.45
7 Unusual Suspect 180.45

[Sands]

Both Dunaden & Americain were super impressive, the French Connection is gonna be hard to beat!
Agree RJ

[Sands]

Always been a fan of Brett Prebble
His mount Moyenne Corniche was an eye catching effort in the Herbert Power
Slight doubt the distance but could surprise at odds with a cushy run

[xanadu]

With the late scratching of my first choice, Mourayan, this morning I will be supporting this handy stayer:
MR7 4 Drunken Sailor
See how it goes.

Cheers.

[pharfromoz]

#6 Manighar+++........just hope he can get over from that barrier draw.
#12 Red Cadeaux
#14 Illo

[UselessBettor]

I took the following trifecta :

3 17 23/1 3 17 23/FIELD

[Rogan Josh]

Spot the Aussie lol
First "local" home Niwot in the 8th posi.
As I said, Spot the Aussie!

[kumite]

reckon bart will be taking a big shopping trolley overseas before the next cup

[jake]

..don't think bart will be on his own

[Rogan Josh]

..don't think bart will be on his own
Didn’t take long. John O’Shea is the latest Australian-based trainer heading overseas to source staying prospects. He has just purchased a French galloper formerly trained by Melbourne Cup winning trainer Alain de Royer Dupré.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Understand Gai has recently been checking out the shelves overseas as well

[Sands]

Did Gai buy something?

[MyHatMyCoat]

Did Gai buy something?
I think was just window-shopping on this occasion.