Meadows Market

[woof43]

Race 2
1 5.321
2 5.120
3 5.197
4 5.155
5 5.217
6 5.118
7 5.254
8 5.204
#5 has been in "just" winning form, but really isn't the best chaser as it's past record shows, has the best 2nd sectionals and best overall is better to risk this dog and only include in the exotics.
I feel the #6 may hinder it at the start and put it "off" for the rest of the race.
I'm leaning to the #3 and #2 as just about leading most of the way, with maybe a challenge from the #1.
I'd prefer the #5 to miss altogether in this event.
3,1,2,6

[moeee]

I'm giving up on the indepth studies.
It just ain't getting close to paying off spending an hour studying , yet all the effort doesn't translate into what actually eventuates.

I think the better idea is rather than trying to get EVERY Race a little bit right , I will now try getting an occasional Race EXACTLY Right and most others woefully wrong.

The hope is that the EXACTLY Right Race , more than pays off the hopeless Race Cases.

RACE 2

5 FIZZLE BALE $3.2
6 HUEY HOUDINE $4.5
3 RAPID FORCE $5
1 FERMIN BALE $10
8 BESTIE BALE $20
7 OUR PRESLEY $20
2 CORAZON BALE $20
4 RAWILLER $60



RACE 3

4 KING MICK $4
5 APACHE PASS $5.6
3 ALLEGRA'S SUNSET $6.8
8 BULLICOURT DYLAN $8
1 MAGIC PENSKI $10
6 SHIRAZ COLOUR $14
2 RILEY MAK $25
10 MOZZIE GALORE $25



RACE 4

7 SLEEP WALK $2.9
1 BREATHE FEAR $4.9
3 FEDERAL BUREAU $8.8
8 PILLOW TORQUE $9
5 SHOW ME HOW $12
6 SISCO SPICE $12
2 PENSKI ILLUSION $20
4 FAWN MAGIC $33



RACE 5

6 SHAMUS O'JAR $3.9
2 DYNA FIG $4.1
5 ALLEN BULLMAN $9
3 ALETA ALLEN $10
1 MYSTERIOUS LOLA $10
7 RUMBLE HERO $11
4 BITTEN $16
8 SISCO DIAMOND $20

[woof43]

1 5.258
2 5.212
3 5.170
4 5.128

6 5.243
7 5.161
8 5.155
#6 needs to miss the outside dogs cutting across, should be able to perform somewhere near its best. #4 has not been racing well lately, suffering some bad interference but never seemed in winning positions prior to the interference.
My next best are the #2,#7 and #3. I thought the #2 may improve a lot tonight. #7 may be able to lead if the #8 doesn't hit him at the start.

[moeee]

RACE 7

6 LEKTRA JAY $2.7
7 BUREAUCRAT $5
4 IN HIDING $8
3 RYKER BALE $9
2 AMERICAN MCGEE $12
1 PROVEN PUZZLE $16
8 HAMEL $25

[moeee]

RACE 2

6 HUEY HOUDINE $4.5


I may be back on track here.

[woof43]

I may be back on track here.
Yes I thought it's break even price to lead was 6.50. the tri was a handy divi

[moeee]

RACE 7

6 LEKTRA JAY $2.7


A string of Losses , and then this.

[woof43]

A string of Losses , and then this.
Good work Moeee,
I guess you may have had the F4 and were included in the 3 times as many winners on Vic as there was in the rest of the country.

[moeee]

RACE 9

5 COSMIC COOPER $3.5
1 BEES KNEES $5.4
4 SELECT BREAKER $7
2 TIMBO $7.4
3 LASTING EFFECT $10
6 CARVE 'EM $12
7 KINGA WILL $12

[moeee]

Good work Moeee,
I guess you may have had the F4 and were included in the 3 times as many winners on Vic as there was in the rest of the country.

Thanks.
Well if I hadda played I probably would have got it , but I amtrying something new tonight.
And when you have THAT HUGE an Overlay , there ain't no need to go looking at other Pools , at least not at this stage.

You remember "ANOMALY NICK" what you emailed me a year or so ago Woof43?
I'm playing around with that!

[moeee]

RACE 10

2 BERGERMEISTER $2.5
8 TYER'S SPECIAL $8.4
5 SPIRITUAL ONE $9
7 PARAGON BUSTER $9.4
6 DYNA DIEGO $11
1 SPELLBOUND $12
3 PURE SHOW $20
4 LARA'S ROCK $20

[woof43]

Thanks.
Well if I hadda played I probably would have got it , but I amtrying something new tonight.
And when you have THAT HUGE an Overlay , there ain't no need to go looking at other Pools , at least not at this stage.

You remember "ANOMALY NICK" what you emailed me a year or so ago Woof43?
I'm playing around with that!

There is a flaw in the "Paradox of Odds" but I'll let you find that out over time.

Your better off just trying to find what your strike rate is then find what your break even price will be and then only invest on runners that are longer then your break even price.

That is what Darren was doing I'm sure, he knew his spot play strike rate and just found what his break even was and invested accordingly with great success.

[woof43]

Thanks.

And when you have THAT HUGE an Overlay , there ain't no need to go looking at other Pools , at least not at this stage.

I'm thinking people aren't coming to grips with the new split times for Meadows and Sandown, both tracks have thrown up some great winners since the change occured.

It doesn't help when both race clubs are in denial that the tracks hav'nt changed

[moeee]

I don't know of the flaw , but I am not using it as a System as provided.
It is a guide that I am using beside my usual Market Making method.

But it has dropped my annnalysis from over an hour , down to less than 20 minutes or so.

Darren was no mathemetician, I've seen his work , but he knew when Favourites were a Chance of striking trouble.

The new times are because the Timing is not set off by the trigger anymore.
It is now set off by the lids opening.
GRV has said it has taken perhaps 2 lengths off the time for the Race.

[woof43]

I don't know of the flaw , but I am not using it as a System as provided.
It is a guide that I am using beside my usual Market Making method.

But it has dropped my annnalysis from over an hour , down to less than 20 minutes or so.

It will do a good job on the middle grouping of dogs, in your typical race, but not so well at either end of the market.

[woof43]

The new times are because the Timing is not set off by the trigger anymore.
It is now set off by the lids opening.
GRV has said it has taken perhaps 2 lengths off the time for the Race.

Would you say, if only the timing mechanism has changed then the time improvement for the first split, would be the same at the 2nd split and then at again at the finish?

[moeee]

I managed to pick up nearly all my losses over the past weeks , especially last night when I went berserk at Traralgon and Geelong.
Now am back to maybe $72 behind my Highest ever Bank.

Cheers!

[moeee]

I guess I may have misunderstood their words.
You would think if it were the Timing is set off .13 seconds later than normal , then ONLY the 1st Split and the Overall would be that amount quicker , but no other Splits.

[woof43]

I managed to pick up nearly all my losses over the past weeks , especially last night when I went berserk at Traralgon and Geelong.
Now am back to maybe $72 behind my Highest ever Bank.

Cheers!
Great work. Moee...I thought you may have lost the plot there for awhile...
Talking of Traralgon their had their own issues with the times at that track..

[moeee]

Here's a cut and Paste from GRV Website.

CITY SPEED
Friday 29 July, 2011

Sandown sprint times to register 2 to 3 lengths quicker than before

New starting boxes were operated for the first time at Sandown Park last night over the 515 metre race distance.

The new boxes are more accurate in terms of recording race times than ever before, as the timer is now started by the lid rams rather than the starting box handle with the old metropolitan boxes.

As a result, times are going to be around 2 to 3 lengths quicker than was previously the case.

“The old system meant that the timer is triggered just prior to when the lids actually open, whereas with the new boxes the timer begins in line with when the lids open”, said GRV’s Racing & Infrastructure Manager Mark Dooley.

Race times are now more accurate over
Sandown's 515 metres journey.

Greyhound Racing Victoria is in its third year of a Starting Box Replacement and Reconditioning Plan and has installed 13 new or reconditioned sets of starting boxes at Victorian tracks over the last 12 months.

“The Meadows is next on the agenda with their boxes due for replacement in September 2011 and I would anticipate a similar scenario at The Meadows with their race times. GRV is planning for all of Victoria’s tracks to have new or reconditioned starting boxes installed by early next year”, Dooley added.

[moeee]

Talking of Traralgon their had their own issues with the times at that track..

Much of my work is based on Track Times , and I have had strange Times at Traralgon where they appeared way too slow about 5 months ago.
Now they seem to be back to how I had them.
But a couple of animals ran much improved times yesterday.

I'm thinking of dumping my Foxtel Pay Tv and relying on the Internet provided replays.
Only problem is I really dislike not being able to watch my money go around.
Sundays are my worst day because I ain't got SKY2 Channel.

[woof43]

Old Times
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Average
5.285 5.296 5.293 5.316 5.312 5.323 5.294 5.288 5.301
New Times
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Average
5.195 5.210 5.198 5.221 5.204 5.206 5.197 5.198 5.203

This for the slowest section of a race, it takes 1.1 sec to overcome the standing start - 3.90 sec to reach 99% full speed. This for a greyhound.

[moeee]

What track are dem times for Woof43?
Traralgon?
And when did the new times begin happening?

[woof43]

Thats for sandown park they started 27/7/2011

[moeee]

Ok thanks Woof43.

I'm outta here.
May catch u tomorrow for some More Winners - Cheers!

[woof43]

yep check you later