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Stix
20th October 2011, 11:13 PM
I've a neural based system/s and looking at using ratings to help with selections...so have a couple quick questions on ratings.
Unitab ratings - What are they based on? I think I remember wesmip mentioned unitab rating are based on speed. Is this correct?
Who provides the form rating for tabracing.com.au/ I know it says Sky form, is this the same as Techform?
Are techform ratings available free and has anyone have any comments regarding them i.e. long term S/R, find them accurate? etc
...or any other free ratings, who would you recommend.
Thanks in advance!
UselessBettor
21st October 2011, 05:47 AM
sorry can't help you Stix.
moeee
21st October 2011, 07:56 AM
I'm also sorry that I can't help you Stix.
TheSchmile
21st October 2011, 08:36 AM
Hi Stix,
Regarding Techform, I found this on the RISA website. I think they're $5.50 per meeting.
RISA Techform (http://www.risaform.com.au/Racing/default.aspx)
I found this info on the racing Vic website:
The Australian Horse Rating system was devised by Perth-based National Ratings Pty Ltd in conjunction with the Racing Services Bureau (now part of RISA) in 1985. Its Techform Ratings are a computer-generated numerical form guide that is calculated by the rating of past performances combined with a detailed analysis at acceptance time.
Techform Ratings are an exclusive feature of racebooks throughout Australia and are available for subscribers through RISA/RSB. They are also available on the internet on selected TAB sites.
- Unitab ratings as far as I can gather are sourced from AAP.
Hope this helps a little.
Cheers,
The Schmile
garyf
21st October 2011, 09:42 AM
Hi Stix.
The skyform ratings you enquired about are the old wizard ratings.
They are run by Warren Block from a company called successability.
The in wet ratings on the tab website are not from this company.
They are from sky channel itself.
Cheers.
Garyf
Chrome Prince
21st October 2011, 02:20 PM
Stix,
The Techform ratings are far superior to Unitab ratings.
When both were free I gathered the data for a few years to compare them.
Techform stood head and shoulders above Unitab.
Techform used to be free on Supertab (vic) but they since dropped them and you have to pay $5.50 per meeting now.
They are good, but I don't believe I'd pay anything like $5.50 a meeting.
Stix
22nd October 2011, 08:01 AM
Thanks guys, much appreciated.
Yep, I'm not going to pay $5.50 either Chrome, i was hoping they might be still available for free somewhere....
What would people say are the "best" free ratings?
UselessBettor
22nd October 2011, 09:36 AM
My research suggests the Don scott ratings at Racingandsports.
Its definitely not the unitab ratings.
Its definitely not the default neural ratings.
I have not researched any other ratings.
AngryPixie
22nd October 2011, 10:26 AM
I'm still getting Dave's Winner In Six ratings.
WinnerinsixRatings at bigpond dot com
garyf
22nd October 2011, 02:07 PM
The best free ratings that work for me in combination,
With the neurals(NOT DEFAULT) are the premium ratings.
Unfortunately i have only recorded certain races that meet my criteria.
They only became available early july from memory
I have only been recording since the start of august.
They far outweigh my current ratings and anything else,
That i have tried.
Cheers.
Gary.
Stix
22nd October 2011, 02:19 PM
The best free ratings that work for me in combination,
With the neurals(NOT DEFAULT) are the premium ratings.
Unfortunately i have only recorded certain races that meet my criteria.
They only became available early july from memory
I have only been recording since the start of august.
They far outweigh my current ratings and anything else,
That i have tried.
Cheers.
Gary.Wher do you find these please garyf?
garyf
22nd October 2011, 02:30 PM
Sorry stix.
Spelt it wrong.
Google up Premierratings dot com.
You will have to register.
As i already have an account i am unsure if you,
Have to deposit funds to get them.
Well worth it if you can throw something small in to get started.
Stix
22nd October 2011, 04:13 PM
Full of stoopid questions lately :rolleyes: ......
I've used neural extensively for the past few years, now looking back on spme older posts and UselessB's database website...
So here goes; Are Don Scott's ratings on the worksheet function on R&S (http://www.racingandsports.com.au/form-guide/) and given as either FR or EM value?
Where can i find an explaination of the different columns...
I feel pretty sheepish about posting this, but never know if you never ask..
thanks
UselessBettor
22nd October 2011, 04:14 PM
Yes FR is the Final Rating for the don scott calc.
aussielongboat
24th October 2011, 09:01 AM
Full of stoopid questions lately :rolleyes: ......
I've used neural extensively for the past few years, now looking back on spme older posts and UselessB's database website...
So here goes; Are Don Scott's ratings on the worksheet function on R&S (http://www.racingandsports.com.au/form-guide/) and given as either FR or EM value?
Where can i find an explaination of the different columns...
I feel pretty sheepish about posting this, but never know if you never ask..
thanks
EM is the margin from the highest rated.
thus for the highest rated it = 0.
Re EM:
ExMarg: Theoretical Beaten margin in kgs based on FR calculation
re explanation - for full display - hit " explanation" under the displayed table. that provides a definition for most of them - but keep reading down it is bit easy to miss it all.
cheers
aussie
Stix
24th October 2011, 01:02 PM
Thanks lads.
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