Don Scott Ratings

[Stix]

Hi Guys

Looking for any kind hearted soul to share their Don Scott data with a fellow (recently converted) devotee...even for a fee :cool:

I've only got about 6 weeks of R&S form guides and keen to get some more data....I've got 4 years of neurals http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I've used Useless Bettors Database to run a couple ideas and I've come up with a couple simple rules which appear to have returned pretty reasonable results.

Love for someone to help out, thanks in advance

Can email me at stix_hotcopper at aanet com au

[UselessBettor]

Stix,

You obviously want other data to back up mine is correct but if you can't get any let me know and I'll put the raw data somewhere for you.

[bernie]

Hi UB,

I think you have answered this before so I apologise for asking again. Are the barrier draws in your system tester before or after scratchings?

Thanks in advance
Bernie

[Stix]

Stix,

You obviously want other data to back up mine is correct but if you can't get any let me know and I'll put the raw data somewhere for you.Hi UB

No not at all UB, your database is great, I'm not trying to prove your database right or wrong, but looking for greater detail.

I must say I am used to Chrome's database (Race Census) where you can export all the selections (and data) in a table format, so you can manipulate and add other data not captured in Chrome's database....

If I'm able to get the raw data that would be greatly appreciated.

I currently copy and paste the (customised) Meeting Form guides - and then add what is not there like UniTab rating, Radio TAB selections etc. - it's manual :( and taking some time to go through the ideas/angles I have.

Not sure how big your database is in terms of MB's but please email me at stix_hotcopper at aanet com au and we can hopefully work something out..

Thanks UB!

[bernie]

No need to answer my post UB. I found the answer.

Feild size is after scratchings.
All other things are before scratchings.

[Stix]

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Hi UB

Not sure if you saw my post?

Hi UB

No not at all UB, your database is great, I'm not trying to prove your database right or wrong, but looking for greater detail.

I must say I am used to Chrome's database (Race Census) where you can export all the selections (and data) in a table format, so you can manipulate and add other data not captured in Chrome's database....

If I'm able to get the raw data that would be greatly appreciated.

I currently copy and paste the (customised) Meeting Form guides - and then add what is not there like UniTab rating, Radio TAB selections etc. - it's manual :( and taking some time to go through the ideas/angles I have.

Not sure how big your database is in terms of MB's but please email me at stix_hotcopper at aanet com au and we can hopefully work something out..

Thanks UB!

[UselessBettor]

Oops no I didn't I must have missed it.

I'll get a file ready for you and then contact you. Give me a couple of days to get it done.

[Stix]

Many many thanks UB, very much appreciated :D

[garyf]

Hi U.B.


Was wondering if it's not to much trouble could you send,
Don Scotts ratings to me as well same as stix.

If you have them from 01/08/2011> would be great
Was interested in the DIV RATINGS.


Email me kelpebkey at optusnet dot com dot au.
Think this is how Bhagwan said to give it out.

Cheers.
Garyf.

[UselessBettor]

Here are my the files which hold the raw data. I had to select this out of my own database so hopefully I got the joins right. I have uploaded them to a file host called depositfiles which I have used before. Just use the free download button. The links for them are below:

August and September Data : 12Mbs
http://depositfiles.com/files/31s53a1ua

October and Novemeber Data : 16Mbs
http://depositfiles.com/files/lkdrp152s

I'll upload December data at the end of the month.

[UselessBettor]

I just realised that data only has the rankings. I can provide the very raw data (which includes the DIV and actual rating numbers). Let me know if you need this info and then give me a couple of days to create the files and I'll get it done.

If your happy with these files let me know. If you want the extra data let me know.

[garyf]

Thanks U.B.


Yes i do require the div prices and if you can the ranking,
Order after scratchings.

The only data i have shows that the div order 1-2-3,
With a maximum price of=<$7.5 combines good with my own.

I only need 01/08/2011 onwards if you can.

I only bet Sydney Melbourne Brisbane 7 days a week,
Including night meetings.

If it's easier to seperate for you great if not all in one is fine.

Thanks a trillion for this data this will tell me once and,
For all if it is worth perservering with.

When you get some spare time you can email or post,
Like the other ones will keep checking each day.

Cheers.
Garyf.

[UselessBettor]

Just give me a few days to get he DIV available in my export database. It just requires a bit of processing power.

[garyf]

Great U.B. THANKS.


CHEERS.

[Stix]

That is simply fantastic UB, much appreciated. If I could get the final FR it would great, but this data is awesome.


Thanks again.

[garyf]

Many thanks for your time and efforts U.B.
Greatly appreciated.

May the punting gods smile on you forever.

Cheers.
Garyf

[Stix]

That is simply fantastic UB, much appreciated. If I could get the final FR it would great, but this data is awesome.


Thanks again.Hi UB
Sorry, I missed a couple....If I'm able to get Final DS rating (FR), change in distance from last Start and Weight change it would be hugely appreciated....what a christmas present http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Will park myself in front of the cricket (and races) and work through these excellent data files http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Thanks again UB.

[UselessBettor]

Hi UB
Sorry, I missed a couple....If I'm able to get Final DS rating (FR), change in distance from last Start and Weight change it would be hugely appreciated....what a christmas present http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Will park myself in front of the cricket (and races) and work through these excellent data files http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Thanks again UB.
I would have sworn those were in there. I need to run a full extract for all the months to get that info for you in the nice format. I've been busy doing a couple of other things at the moment but I will try and get it for you before Christmas.

I'll add all the requested info. If you want something else ask now and I'll try adn accomodate you if I get time.

[Stix]

I would have sworn those were in there. I need to run a full extract for all the months to get that info for you in the nice format. I've been busy doing a couple of other things at the moment but I will try and get it for you before Christmas.

I'll add all the requested info. If you want something else ask now and I'll try adn accomodate you if I get time.Thanks UB, understand this time of year is busy enough without me making requests :D The only other factor I really use from R&S form is the horse's Sex

Once again thanks in advance!

[KaiserSoze]

UB, you're a champion for sharing this data. I hope Santa is very good to you this year. :)

Can I ask, though, if you record last 5 starts and form line data? If so, is it possible for you to share? Also, how do you come by the pace type data?

Many thanks if you can help out...

[Stix]

Day 1: 7 Selections, 3 winners +9.6 units :D


Champion UB!

[UselessBettor]

UB, you're a champion for sharing this data. I hope Santa is very good to you this year. :)

Can I ask, though, if you record last 5 starts and form line data? If so, is it possible for you to share? Also, how do you come by the pace type data?

Many thanks if you can help out...
The form guide I use only has the last 3 starts. I have most form line data for the last 3 starts. I am just using the risa free form guide coupled with r&S form guides.

Pace type comes from R&S speed map.

[UselessBettor]

Day 1: 7 Selections, 3 winners +9.6 units :D


Champion UB!Nice work.

[Chrome Prince]

Well done Stix.

[Stix]

Thanks, early Days Lads, but good start.

Day 2: 4 selections 1 winner -0.1 units :cool:

[Stix]

Day 3: 4 bets 0 win -4.0 :(

[UselessBettor]

I'm going to be at home tomorrow most of the day in bed with Bronchitis so should get a chance to code the extra items you want then.

As soon as I have them ready I'll let you know

[TheSchmile]

Still up 5.5 units after 3 days Stix.

If you've done the work and believe in your method, stick strong.

The Schmile

[UselessBettor]

Coding is finished to add:

Div
Sex
FR amount
Weight Change
Distance Change

I need to run through all of the data to update it. This will take a few hours at least.

[Stix]

Coding is finished to add:

Div
Sex
FR amount
Weight Change
Distance Change

I need to run through all of the data to update it. This will take a few hours at least.
Champion! Merry Xmas!

[Stix]

How we going UB? Chomping at the bit.....:D

[UselessBettor]

Stix,

All done. I'll upload it later tonight for you.

I just need to output the files and do the upload.

[UselessBettor]

Stix,

Sorry didn't get this done last ngiht I am doing it now.

[UselessBettor]

http://depositfiles.com/files/wftrsl5lb

Hopefully that is what your looking for. I lost my output script and had to recreate this script so if something is missing let me know.

[Stix]

Thanks UB, some missing data here and there, but much appreciated!

[Stix]

Still up 5.5 units after 3 days Stix.

If you've done the work and believe in your method, stick strong.

The SchmileUp 10.5 units....been a bit more volitile than expected, but nice to still be in front!

[TheSchmile]

Nice work Stix,

Anytime you're up in this game is a beautiful thing!!

Volatility is to be expected, unless you're going for a very low action/high strike rate angle. Win betting will almost always be a rollercoaster ride.

Keep on recording results and analysing different classes of races. I like the fact you know exactly how many units you're up.

Long may it continue in 2012!!!

The Schmile

[Stix]

Hi UB


Just a quick question, is the weight change rounded up or rounded down?

The data has whole numbers - so -3, -2, -1 etc.... so is -1.5 = -2 or -1

Many thanks for your help, the data has been much appreciated.

[UselessBettor]

It shouldn't be rounded. If it is I have made a mistake.

[Stix]

It shouldn't be rounded. If it is I have made a mistake.Mate, they are all whole numbers...so no 1.5, 2.5 etc

[UselessBettor]

I'll see what i can do for you.

[Stix]

I'll see what i can do for you.Thanks UB :D
Do you record PR$ to?

[Stix]

Morning UB

Do you record Race prize money or class (Maiden, HCP, Restricted, Listed, Group etc) in your database?

(don't want to seem to be pestering, just wondering :o )

Many Thanks, your data has been fantastic...

[Stix]

Hi Useless Bettor

If I may be so bold as to ask, if you could run your data at the end of the month ? for 18th Dec to 31 Jan?

Really would be appreciated :D

Many Thanks again!

[UselessBettor]

Morning UB

Do you record Race prize money or class (Maiden, HCP, Restricted, Listed, Group etc) in your database?

(don't want to seem to be pestering, just wondering :o )

Many Thanks, your data has been fantastic...
I do record some of this info.

[UselessBettor]

Hi Useless Bettor

If I may be so bold as to ask, if you could run your data at the end of the month ? for 18th Dec to 31 Jan?

Really would be appreciated :D

Many Thanks again!
I am up to about Mid Jan at the moment. I've been distracted but will upload some more tonight.

[UselessBettor]

Loaded a bit more last night and this morning.

I'll load a bit more today hopefully as well.

[UselessBettor]

Loaded another batch of data today. I am almost back up to date now.

[Stix]

Excellent work UB.

Would you be able to provide a data down load like last time?

Very much appreciated!

Thanks In Advance

Stix

[Stix]

Excellent work UB.

Would you be able to provide a data down load like last time?

Very much appreciated!

Thanks In Advance

StixForgot to add.... missed a $8 winner today, did the selections only a few minutes ago :o

Anyway, without that one that got away; for January....

* Sel 104
* Winners 35 Winners
* Return 143
* Profit 39 units.

[UselessBettor]

Updated more selections

There are 56300 horse form lines in the database at this point in time.

Its not a huge amount but its enough to get a rough idea on many systems.

[Stix]

Excellent work UB.

Would you be able to provide a data down load like last time?

Very much appreciated!

Thanks In Advance

StixExcellent UB, much appreciated! :D

Would you be able to run your data query that you share linked here for the period 18 Dec to 31 Jan?.....I promise to leave you alone :p

[UselessBettor]

Remind me in a couple of days and I'll do this for you.

Im way behind on a lot of things at the moment due to an accident in the family.

[Stix]

Remind me in a couple of days and I'll do this for you.

Im way behind on a lot of things at the moment due to an accident in the family.Hi UB

Fully understand, Hope everything is OK, take care of your family first..always!

[michaelg]

Stix, I'm certain everyone here wishes you and the family the very best.

[Stix]

Stix, I'm certain everyone here wishes you and the family the very best.Thanks Michaelg, but it's UselessBettor who's family is not well... :o

[michaelg]

Sorry, Stix.

However I'm sure everyone still wishes you and the family, and U.B and his family (I'm assuming U.B is a "he") the best.

[Stix]

Thanks Michael :D

Hope UB is back in the driver seat soon....he/she is very kind with their contribution! :)

[Stix]

Hi UB

I see your back posting, so assume it is safe to nudge a little reminder....?? :o

Thanks In Advance

Stix

[UselessBettor]

Ahh yes forgot about this (thanks for the reminder).

I'll get this done for you either today or tomorrow.

[Stix]

Ahh yes forgot about this (thanks for the reminder).

I'll get this done for you either today or tomorrow.Very kind, thank you :D

[UselessBettor]

stix,

It will need to be tomorrow. I just got home and its 10:30pm. I need some sleep.

[Bhagwan]

What's all that sleep nonsense about.
Haven't you heard of drugs?

[Stix]

stix,

It will need to be tomorrow. I just got home and its 10:30pm. I need some sleep.Great!
Looking forward to Friday night football, golf, night racing and.........Don Scott data :D

The selections highlighted for today are:



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*Unsure about the 4kg rise in weight, but including at this stage

[Stix]

Great!
Looking forward to Friday night football, golf, night racing and.........Don Scott data :D

The selections highlighted for today are:




<TABLE class="tablesorter tablesorterZebras noFooter dayTipsHeader" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 sizset="12" sizcache01493634222440256="17"><TBODY sizset="12" sizcache01493634222440256="17"><TR id=myTipsItem3569478 class=tip sizset="13" sizcache01493634222440256="17"><TD class="firstCell date">17/02/12</TD><TD class=meeting>Goulburn </TD><TD class=event>Race 2 </TD><TD class="noRightBorder competitor">3 - Tidy Sum </TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" class="remove noLeftBorder" sizset="13" sizcache01493634222440256="17"></TD><TD class=price></TD><TD class=price></TD><TD class="price lastCell"></TD></TR><TR id=myTipsItem3569479 class="tip zebra" sizset="14" sizcache01493634222440256="17"><TD class="firstCell date">17/02/12 </TD><TD class=meeting>Goulburn </TD><TD class=event>Race 6 </TD><TD class="noRightBorder competitor">3 - Rite of Honour *</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" class="remove noLeftBorder" sizset="14" sizcache01493634222440256="17"></TD><TD class=price></TD><TD class=price></TD><TD class="price lastCell"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



*Unsure about the 4kg rise in weight, but including at this stageThe forum curse... LOL!!

[UselessBettor]

As promised:

Jan Data.

http://depositfiles.com/files/aqkbol1rh

[Stix]

As promised:

Jan Data.

http://depositfiles.com/files/aqkbol1rhThanks UB very much, just for your info, it looks live its duplicated the extracted data around 9 times.

I've removed the duplicates, but just so you know, in case it causes you any issues.

Thanks again.

[UselessBettor]

Thanks UB very much, just for your info, it looks live its duplicated the extracted data around 9 times.

I've removed the duplicates, but just so you know, in case it causes you any issues.

Thanks again.
Sorry I had to write the extract again. I forgot to save it again. I thought I had it right but must have got one of the joins wrong.

[Stix]

Big Thanks to UB for his efforts with the system tester and providing the data to me.

I've been able to use Jan's data to confirm the manual selections I did during the month and also re-run the selection method I'm using (on paper) and it's great to know I'm on the right track....

There are three angles I'm trying with the ratings and all are performing well, January was a little lower in S.R. than prior months, but POT was the same or higher (got lucky with a few divs ;)).


Anyway, it's great to have other members helping out and without the crap...so thanks UB, very much appreciated....might have to sling you 10% owners share :D

[UselessBettor]

Big Thanks to UB for his efforts with the system tester and providing the data to me.

I've been able to use Jan's data to confirm the manual selections I did during the month and also re-run the selection method I'm using (on paper) and it's great to know I'm on the right track....

There are three angles I'm trying with the ratings and all are performing well, January was a little lower in S.R. than prior months, but POT was the same or higher (got lucky with a few divs ;)).


Anyway, it's great to have other members helping out and without the crap...so thanks UB, very much appreciated....might have to sling you 10% owners share :D
Stix,

Glad to help out and I am very happy to see someone making use of the data. Remind me at the end of Feb and I'll post the Feb data for you.

[Stix]

Stix,

Glad to help out and I am very happy to see someone making use of the data. Remind me at the end of Feb and I'll post the Feb data for you.
Thanks UB, very kind of you.

[Bhagwan]

Yes , I feel UB does decerve a BIG thanks for his stirling efforts.

Without any nonsense
.

[TWOBETS]

He has my vote of thanks. Impressive.

[garyf]

Me as well.

I also had data sent about the same time stix asked for his.

Well done U.B.

Cheers.