Betting Bot question.

[217]

I know the subject of Betting Bots has been spoken of a number of times by forum members. I am developing a strategy of laying the 2nd race fav when there is a specific gap between it and the 1st race fav and of course betting at the off or close to it.
I'm looking for a bot that would preform this function or have a programme created specifically for that purpose. I'm told the Greyhorse bot is capable but is complex to use and expensive. Could any forum member who knows of any other Betting Bot please reply with any details.

Thank you 217.

[norisk]

As long as you have a reasonable understanding of excel, Gruss Betting Assistant can do what you have described.

[rails run]

BetBotPro is easy to use. It will allow you to pick 2nd fav and then isolate some odds parameters.

BF Bot Manager will do the same.

Free trials on both.

[AngryPixie]

BFBotManager is what you want. Use it here in Australia and have it running fully unattended on a VM in Ireland. Very stable and configurable. Developer very responsive unlike that BetBotPro joffer.

[Shaun]

Hey what does the server cost you a month to run?

[AngryPixie]

Shaun

This particular one is an Amazon EC2 Win2008 server that is running as a t1.micro "spot instance" (Amazon's jargon not mine). Spot instances enable you to bid for unused Amazon EC2 capacity.

https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/spot-instances/

January's bill was a bit less than $14. This machine has been running 24/7 since the 7th December, 2011.

We run quite a few of these things (big and small) on EC2 so give me a yell if you need more info.

[Shaun]

Sounds a bit like a cloud server where you pay for what you need.

[AngryPixie]

Yes it is kind of like that. It's brilliant to be able to keep your bots running without having to worry about power outages, kids and partners fiddling etc. They (Amazon) do try to make it sound more complicated than it is though. But considering they run some of the most advanced data centres in the world it's well worth looking at.

[Chrome Prince]

How do you cope with refreshing the days race list?

[Chrome Prince]

How do you cope with refreshing the days race list?

i.e the following day.

[AngryPixie]

Hi Chrome

The bot just loads the fields ever 12 hours. It's all completely automated. I will check in every now and then via an RDP session to do a bit of housekeeping.

It's been costing $0.33/day each day of February.

[The Ocho]

BF Bot Manager v2 is what I use. Very reliable and the developer helps you out if, for some reason, you need it. It also has a Dutching bot and trading bot and is a one off fee for life including updates.

Of course no bot will help you unless you have a profitable strategy (which I'm finding out about yet again in my testing two systems thread). :( :mad:

[Shaun]

Sounds like a great product but i am so used to doing it all in excel, plus this lets me record info i want and integrate with websites if needed.

[217]

I do thank the members who have replied, most sincierly, and if others wish to add anything please keep it rolling.
To NORISK I have self taught myself to use a computer and I use XL sheets to record all of my research. I do know that XL uses formulas for various cells etc but know nothing about how to go about it, so GRUSS would be out for me.
It does appear that BFBot manager is the way to go, linked to the server that Anrgy Pixie mentioned. If I could ask him, does the BOT place bets when the computer is off. I imagine the answer is no but I'm not sure.
Again I thank you all for the replies.
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[Shaun]

It won't place bets when it is off unless you have submitted SP bets.

What AngryPixie has mentioned is a service separate from the bot that you can install the bot on to that would run 24/7

Just like getting a website host except they would host your program and run it from there system, people could use a service like this for anything not just betting bots.

[The Ocho]

Hi 217, I'd give the bot (any bot) a trial first and see if it does what you need it do just on your computer. For most people running a bot on their own computer is fine. You can always get a virtual server (VT) later.

When I'm testing on the UK markets I just leave my computer running all night. You can always switch it off in the morning or put it back on again for the Oz racing in the arvo.

The bot will not place a bet unless your computer is on AND the bot is running (unless your on the VT).

[217]

Thank you THE OCHO for your informative replies.
I have requested more information from the marketers of Bf Bot manager and awaiting a reply. The more information I have the better informed I will be and be able to make the right decision.
Please keep the info coming.
217.:) :)

[Bhagwan]

Heres 2 free Bots
I dont know if price comparing can be done with these 2 Bots.

BetSoftPro

JetBet


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Some very easy to use BOTS that can separate price differences.

The Bet Engine
Very good , it can do a wide range of things & is easy to use.
2 or more systems can be run live with this.
Has very handy Sim mode for testing systems using pretend money.


BetFair Manager
Min bet is $5.00 with this.
Its very good, it will even monitor your horses price & only bet or lay it if the price changes by a certain percentage in or out.
They have a number of staking plan that are very good.
Has Sim mode

BetBotPro
This is the one I personally use.
This allows one to bet under the 5.00 BF limit. But try not to make a habit of it.
It also has a very handy Simulation mode along with simulated bank .
It has a very easy to use facility for storing your various strategies.
Has a number of staking plans.
One can run 2 Bots live with this ,say win & place betting.
Has its own virtual bank for each system stored.
It can store over a hundred systems with ease.


They all have free days trial usage.
They are all very user friendly.
They all have their own Forums.
They can all run approx 3+ systems at once in Sim mode for system testing without having to use real money.
It uses a virtual bank so you know where you are at with each individual system.

[Bhagwan]

Hi Ocho,
Just out of interest.
Does BF manager allow bets under the BF limit?

[Shaun]

With all these sim modes are you logged in to betfair and how do they get results with out placing the bets?

[Chrome Prince]

Sim mode is red hot so be careful, you will get warned by Betfair for using the API without placing bets.

[AngryPixie]

It does appear that BFBot manager is the way to go, linked to the server that Anrgy Pixie mentioned. If I could ask him, does the BOT place bets when the computer is off. I imagine the answer is no but I'm not sure.


Hi 217

Shaun and the Ocho have pretty much covered this for me. I have BFBotManager running on a virtual machine 24/7 which allows me to access the bot from wherever I am, using a variety of different devices, e.g. iPad, phone, PC etc. Running this way also gives the added bonus of the network and power backup systems provided in the data centre. I've been bitten by the Summer power outage at home once too often. VM's raise other issues so I'd get familiar with what you want the bot to do before taking this path.

[AngryPixie]

Sim mode is red hot so be careful, you will get warned by Betfair for using the API without placing bets.

One of the traps I've found with sim mode on these bot's is that generally you'll always get matched which we know from real mode isn't necessarily the case. You're much better off setting aside a small development bank and testing with real money.

[Bhagwan]

I found it using Sim mode that one can use say 3 systems at once targeting single selections is fine.

Its when one goes for 3 systems all doing multiple bets in one race, that it can cause BF to send you a letter.

[217]

Thank you all for your input, you are a mine of information and your help is greatly appreciated.
I have found on the net a bot called The Greyhorse Bot that it is claimed will do all
functions I require.
Does any member have any expierence with this one?

I see it cost about $40 per month and although that is reasonably expensive it has the advantage of giving it the short shift if things don't work out as expected, and I'm sure we all have had that happen to us in one way or another.

The $40 would be a small price to pay if the previous research results continue.

217.

[217]

For those members interested, I have finally decided to go with the BFBotMANAGERV2 to handle my betting activities.
My decision was made after digesting comments made here by members and from a close friend who trialed the GREY HORSE bot and although it's very good he and the marketers couldn't get it to do quite what we required. We had more success with the alturnative and have now gone with it.

After some early teathing problems it's opporating quite successfully and we are using a loss recovery programe set at 60%. Expierence has shown with all gambling activities nothing is 100.0% and loses will occure and need to be recovered sooner rather than later and this built in function will be handy.

Again I thank the members who made contributions to this thread, they have helped me and their comments may well light the spark of an idear in some one else.
217.

[pjr]

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I agree. BfBotmanager2 is probably the best fully automated system that I have used. Well worth the money and good customer support.

Best of luck with your betting system.