How to develop and sell a system

[Barny]

Put whatever rules you like into your system, throw in a couple of wierd ones just to prove you've found something no-one else has ..... but INCLUDE as one of the rules "must be between $3 and $10 pre-post".

Some might think this to be a funny / strange statement, a few will see the truth behind it.

[thorns]

All you need to do is claim it will turn $100 into thousands of dollars within a day and the mugs out there all hand over there money hoping its the true grail.......

[Barny]

It's amazing isn't it? The Beatles manager said something along the lines of .....

"No-one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the general public when selling them crap"

[darkydog2002]

Include.
100 % strike rate during official test period and you will have thousands added to your bank A/C.
i.e 1 bet.

Here ya go.

Wt 55 kg +

$3 - $10 2 Minutes before the jump.

1 - 4 LS in current campaign.

Hang on.Thats one of mine.

[Barny]

I'm taking notes darkydog2002 .....

Should the address be QLD based, as seems to be the case with all reputable 'investment' opportunities? I'd like to get it right first time.

[darkydog2002]

Nah.Its PO box in Ballina NSW.A bit cramped but does me.
But with Bagwhans system soon to be based in Amsterdam in a Chalet.

[Barny]

This is more complicated than I thought.

I need a name for this money making scheme. I also need a guarantee so my "clients" know it's legit and if I had a few testimonials that would be great.

This "community service" stuff is tiring, it would be easier to just mail out cash to those who requested it. Save a lot of work ..........

I did buy The Dark Horse waaaaaaaay back in the mid 80's, by the Statsman and the guts of it was based on consistency in the last four runs, with the last run being Metro. The funny thing is, that most of the systems on here are very similar ........

[Chrome Prince]

The three key ingredients are banana lounge, palm trees, and ferrari.

[darkydog2002]

Well when Uncle dick and I were selling them we called them FBN systems or Fly BY Night.
But thats another story.
Personally I like the word "Dazzler".Or "The Incredible"

[darkydog2002]

The Advertising should go along the lines of

"They laughed when I started .Now I drive a Porsche and I,m only 19"

[partypooper]

ah! but it's all in the apostrophe Darky!

[Barny]

Chrome Prince, what about the khaki Safari Suit ??

[TheSchmile]

Hi Barny,

You need a story line.

Hospitalised for 6 months or trapped in cabin in rugged mountains in a secluded Canadian forest with nothing but a box of mars bars and a collection of old form guides for company, you made an AMAZING discovery, so simple it was brilliant.......that sort of thing

Oh yes,

And one key form factor that nobody has used previously in any commercial system!! Maybe 3rd Dam must have the been born in Ireland.

Good luck!!

The Schmile

[Barny]

The system so far .....

Must have exactly 11 horses in the race (add the number of horses legs and divide by 4) as this is proven by Fibonacci theory to be the optimal number for the philosophically minded punters – I call this rule legs 11

Must be starting from a barrier no wider than 11 ….. stats show a 100% result when combined with rule number 1. If more than two horses starting from the same barrier, back the one put into the barrier first (this will obviously be the horse at the front of the barrier and we think it will jump ahead of the one squeezed in behind it).<O:p</O:p

3rd dam must be from Ireland<O:p</O:p

3rd letter of horses name must be “R” (a proven winner)<O:p</O:p

[darkydog2002]

When PPM were touting their "Secret Form Factor" a few years back I eagerly sought it out for myself and contacts.
Turned out to be "Won Last 3 Starts"(Didnt say whether it was in current campaign )
So you could use something else as this one obviously has been exposed to the Mathematically Uneducated Gamblers.

Surprisingly my 5 second system is creaming their jeans if you stop at a winner (in race time order.)

Another of my infallible methods.?

[Mark]

[QUOTE=Barny][font=Arial][size=3]The system so far Must have exactly 11 horses in the race (add the number of horses legs and divide by 4) as this is proven by Fibonacci theory to be the optimal number for the philosophically minded punters – I call this rule legs 11
Must be starting from a barrier no wider than 11 ….. stats show a 100% result when combined with rule number 1. If more than two horses starting from the same barrier, back the one put into the barrier first (this will obviously be the horse at the front of the barrier and we think it will jump ahead of the one squeezed in behind it

3rd dam must be from Ireland
3rd letter of horses name must be “R” (a proven winner


No weirder than any of the others systems that have been seriously proposed on here.

[Barny]

Surprisingly my 5 second system is creaming their jeans if you stop at a winner (in race time order.)
Maybe not so surprisingly, you do manage to get rid of the rubbish and cut to the chase.

[darkydog2002]

Back to the Dazzler though.
If you put in the rule,
Must be Odds on 1 minute before the jump and claim a 58 % win Strike rate that should give us time to either leave town or develop version 2.

[Chrome Prince]

Chrome Prince, what about the khaki Safari Suit ??

Usually the photo is of a guy in his late twenties, very handsome with a six pack and good tan, in an Armani suit with a bright pink open shirt.

The real guy is usually an overweight bloke in a safari suit with cheap gold chains and a toupe that sits 2 inches off the back of his head.

:D :D :D

[Barny]

The real guy is usually an overweight bloke in a safari suit with cheap gold chains and a toupe that sits 2 inches off the back of his head.

:D :D :D
OK, I give up ..... where's the hidden camera Chrome Prince ?????

[darkydog2002]

Staking should be along the lines of the 10 Point Plan (with a twist )
i.e If we make our Target BEFORE the 10th Bet we dont bet anymore in that 10 series then recommence with NEW Target@ the 11th bet.

Or
Use the Fibonacci 1123581321

[CosMos]

Derren Brown had a remarkable system...100% successful...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R5OWh7luL4

[Bhagwan]

I'm laughing my ass of here already. LOL

[Chrome Prince]

The clue being he always picked small fields which triggered some ideas straight away.

In fact this was actually a bogus game going around with system sellers a few years ago.
They'd have a small success rate, but end up with sizeable subscriptions being handed over.

What is interesting, is that he really doesn't understand horse racing, but in demonstrating his approach of flipping the coin has actually provided a subliminal clue to how to profit from horseracing.

What drives a lot of punters to lose is the occurence of expected outcomes happening and not programming the approach, the confidence and the brain, to look for the outlying results which provide the profit.

For example, betting every day in AUS and UK, it's not uncommon to lose for a week or two, which is hard to bear, yet it is the one meeting where the unexpected happens that provides the profit.
It's like the laying $1.01 or backing $1000 methods.
How many TAB punters would think it was a hopeless angle if shown a day or week's results!

[darkydog2002]

Hey Barny .
When is the release date for this outstanding system and are you looking to release it in the Sportsman.
I think it worthy of a full page spread.
$2500 seems a reasonable price.

We,d best get moving on V2 though.

Version 2 might include.

Must be ridden by a 3KG claiming Apprentice.

Must be Bottom Weight or within 1 KG of Bottom weight.

[Barny]

Now here's the spin darkydog2002. You and everyone else would assume this 'investment strategy' is going to be released in a racing publication, but you'd be wrong. I intend to take a full page spread in Playboy. Those who read and 'view' this publication are programmed over a period of time to understand that they cannot have what they're viewing, but their imagination tells them something entirely different.

I'm going to appeal to these people and offer them a lifestyle that they really never dreamed of, and that incudes the opportunity to mix with the beautiful and attractive people of this world (the one's on view in Playboy). An added 'hook', if you like, so that they're enthusiastic to part with their hard earned. In return is a fortune and glorious women surrounding them.

You see, it's even more enticing this way than advertising in The Sportsman.

[darkydog2002]

Your a Genius Barny.
I never thought of that.
Good one.

[darkydog2002]

I noticed a system selling trawler earlier this morning having a gander so best move quick.

[moeee]

The result of falling on my head when I was 4 years of age does not include delusional behaviour and thinking , only mild insanity.
I would suggest overuse of cannabis may be the root cause here.

[michaelg]

I'm going to sell a Lay system to the Poms that has never had a losing year, and even one year I promoted the system by listing each day's selections prior to the first race being run.

I'm blonde and my name is Maria.

[Barny]

Geez, I certainly hope this is not putting off some from parting with $5K for a system that will lose them another $5K .....

CosMos, that Darren Brown youtube clip was brilliant. For the life of me I couldn't figure out how he could toss the ten heads in a row.

[darkydog2002]

Well we could always sell it as a "Lay" system when the original buyers drop off just by adding the rule "must be a Heavy track" especially if we sell it in the Summer months.

Time to get out of town is the essence here.

[Barny]

I've got a set of Groucho glasses (which to the unitiated includes the nose and moooooostache). I'll wear them if it hits the fan !!!!

[darkydog2002]

I,ll just take me false teeth out and put a beanie on.

[Barny]

Keep your eyes peeled for the next edition of Playboy darkdog2002. I've organised the advert for the system to be modestly placed on the Playmate Centrefold !!!!

[darkydog2002]

I assume it will be placed on the Playmates head.

[Barny]

I assume it will be placed on the Playmates head.
Nope, going for exactly where the eyes would be instinctively heading the millisecond the page falls open. Can you imagine what the person would be thinking? As Bob Dyer used to say .......

[darkydog2002]

Good on ya Barny.

[darkydog2002]

Hey Barny,
I was just looking at another forum.
There,s a post there called "Mr Cashman and the Path To Eternal Wealth"
Not a bad headline for our system.

[Bhagwan]

[QUOTE=Barny]Keep your eyes peeled for the next edition of Playboy darkdog2002.

I think you've got something there.

It could be headed
The Darkydog2000
Commin at you - doggystyle.

[darkydog2002]

Ah.Those were the days.